/ck/ - Food & Cooking

op here, also sorry about the sideways flip of the image, idk why it did that

>>12560235
you really don't have kebab in america ?

>>12560235
Big meat lump on big stick like gyros and al pastor are already everywhere and people will always end up comparing it to what they know/are familiar with so the novelty will die quickly.

Here in Bongland you can have just the meat on top of chips with salad on the side, I prefer it this way.

>>12560328
We do, but not like the Berlin version.

>>12560332
Hm. I see what you're saying

>>12560235
I've always thought a subway-style Donner kebab place could work. Pick your bun/pitta/whatever then the meat filling, then add your lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, pickles, cheese, sauce etc etc.

>>12560328
tacos are similar and the people who make them are slightly less likely to murder you

>>12560235
This is essentially what they have for kebabs in Australia too.
You pick your meat, sauces, salad items. It is like a sandwich bar and funnily I never though of it that way before. They wrap it for you and you go with it, like a burrito.
Places also do baked potato with kebab meat on a plate too.

>>12560235
the best only way I see this working, especially in California, is as a food truck or a stand.

Offer pork, lamb, and veggie versions
choose sauce, choose veg, choose bread

Same concept as the taco truck or hotdog stand

>>12560374
Yeah, this is exactly the kind of thing i had in mind.

>>12560532
>pork döner
No, just no.

>>12560558
it's necessary. 1. Pisses off muslims, 2. American's don't eat lamb.

you can make a döner teller. literally all döner components on a plate +fries -flatbread.
there are also other dishes the dönerbuden offer so can you too.

>>12560558
pork gyros is better than lamb

>>12560563
If it was me, I'd find some experienced Turkish kebab men to work in my kebab house and make it halal or kosher.
You can do beef, lamb, and chicken.
If you want to make good business get the local diaspora support as well as the local locals.

>>12560328
We have gyro, but doner and schwarma are rare.

Anyone got a good reliable way to recreate donner meat at home? Tried a couple of different ways but nothing has quite worked. I know I'm not gonna get an exact replication without it being on a spit but still.

>>12560235
In the civilised world doner kebabs are considered the lowest quality fast food. They are only eaten by seriously drunk people, even they think it's shit quality

>>12560374
That happens at every place that serves them

>>12560647
Some guy on here posted pictures of his way to prepare Döner-style meat a couple of months back, it looked perfect but he never shared the recipe even when pressed, the selfish cunt. He pressed the meat and then shaved it down with a peeler, it was quite ingenious and looked exactly like the real thing after the meat was fried/broiled.

>>12560647
I've made gyro meat at home, but not doner.

You're welcome.

>>12560235
>Typical commuefornia fag thinks he's discovered something nobody knows about
It's fucking everywhere. Pretty much any major city in the world sells all sorts of varieties of kebabs.

>>12560725
Cringe

>>12560235
i like me some doner but ive never had one that fancy, the bread looks pretty good

>>12560235

>>12560235
Err
How weird Californians, it's everywhere in Italy. Dunno how possibly you don't have it and never had better food (even tho I love it) living in one of the most open places in US

>>12560724
Ist gut, aber in meiner Nähe gibt es keine Dönerrestaurants. Ich wohne nicht in Los Angeles

>>12560915
Yeah, i was honestly kind of surprised when i came back and found nearly nothing within at least 100 miles from me. I just want to bring that taste to my area desu

>>12560647
I'm not sure if this is feasible on a home scale, but I have seen several vertical spits on sale for as cheap as $100.

>>12560328
Not a regular sight as it is in Yurop, but you'll find them here and there in large cities like Seattle.

OP needs to make a doner pizza because nobody sells that shit. Get your hands on some mezzo mix and köstritzer and you're set.

>>12560943
Döner pizza? Sounds really ambitious. Maybe I would consider it, but for now I'm mostly focusing on just the traditional Berlin kebab store menu.

>>12560952
Why not just negotiate with them to open a German Döner franchise in Cali?

>>12561126
Because in Germany most of the eateries aren't franchises, not even small ones. The most famous is probably Mustafas Gemüsedöner in Berlin, but even that doesn't extend outside of Berlin. It's widely known by Europeans but the fame is carried by the local places, not franchises

>cheap polan meat

>>12560724
You might want to ask those guys where they get their döner meat.
Procuring proper Dönerspieße is probably the hardest part.

>>12560235
döner is mystery meat on a stick

>>12560647
If you have a:
a very very sharp knife
b:
a very very hot pan / grill that you don't crowd and don't stew your meat

then simply slicing your meat extremely thinly against the grain, heavily salting it, letting it sit for atleast a couple hours, and then cooking it so it browns and isn't overcooked, in some oil/ ghee.

you get something similar, but better.

>>12560630
>tfw my local place which served the plate with amazing baba ganoush with diced tomato in it, hummus, falafel, homemade pickles and spiced roast cauliflower as well as the doner meat, rice, garlic yogourt and salad, and then homemade baklava and sweet strong coffee, closed down

>the only other close place serves it with chips and a coke and shisha

>>12560647
>>/ck/thread/6222125#p6243900

>>12560924
Ask them to open another franchise in your area

>>12563674
Hmm, would this work for lamb though? You'd have to use ground lamb maybe.

Also what the fuck is up with spelling it "donair" is it just an affectation?

>>12560235
pretty much what >>12560332 says, the novelty will be gone quick.
there is definitely an increase in burger tourists but not enough that you could do what i've seen/heard of in other yurocountries, where there are """berlin experience""" places where you can buy overpriced club mate and schultheiss beer and other would be hip trash. also, from all countries where i have tried kebab, the german produced fat meat slabs have a special taste, could be my bias though
>t. berlinfag

>>12560235
Naf Naf Grill is a chain very similar to what you're describing.

>>12560235
you cannot make them. only in germany

>>12560235
We have them with garlic mayo which is better end some kinda sriracha.

>>12564703
>garlic mayo which is better
it's really not

>>12560374
We already have that in some places in the US.

>>12561163
>>12564138
>>12564858
We have German Döner Kebab chains here in the UK as well as little independent food safety rating 2 star authentic Turkish kebab establishments that bypasses Germany.

https://www.germandonerkebab.com

It looks liker there's are already franchises in US and Canada, you can always ask to open one where you are.

>>12560235
I'd rather stick to gyros. Being an amerifat, I've only heard of kebabs recently and don't even know where to find them.

>>12565907
From my research of recipes based on this thread, it turns out gyros are just the amerifat name for kebab. I will say it's led me to come up with a homemade version I'm going to try since I live in an area of the US where anything middle eastern sounding will likely be shot up or bombed. Gonna make the sauce and pita homemade as well as the meat this week. Salivating.

Honestly, it's not a terrible idea because you could literally set up these restaurants in the tiniest kiosk imaginable.
Definitely could be a big money maker for such a small initial investment.
The problem with gyros/doner in the states is that the majority of places that make them buy the same big cylinder of meat from the same supplier. So they all taste very similar wherever you go.
You'll have to differentiate yourself somehow, but as long as you have a good location and can count on hungry drunks/students I think they can be very successful.
Full-service restaurant would be a mistake though.

>>12565984
>gyros are the amerifat name for kebab
Gyros are greek
Kebab are roachfood

>>12560374
That's exactly how it works in Italy.
They usually charge more if you only want meat in your bun.
Also, they are way chaper than most fast foods and at least offer you some vegetables.