/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12472424
>What do YOU want to see in the next /ck/ Challenge?
whole chickens

>>12472559
>my current meat/fish/"meat" list
anchovy
beef
beef - ground
beef - chuck
beef - brisket
beef - rib
beef - plate
beef - flank
beef - shank
beef - round
beef - tenderloin
beef - top, bottom, or sirloin
beef - odd bits
bison or buffalo
catfish
cephalopod (octopus, squid, cuttlefish)
chicken
chicken - breast
chicken - wing
chicken - thigh
chicken - drum
chicken - ground
chicken - whole
chicken - odd bits
clam
cod
crab
crab - leg
crab - lump
duck
duck - breast
fish - smoked
flounder
goat
halibut
impossible
lamb
lamb - rack
lamb - leg
lamb - ground
large game
lobster
lobster - tail
lobster - lump claw
mussel
mutton
offal
oyster
perch
pork
pork - ground
pork - belly
pork - shoulder
pork - loin
pork - ribs
pork - cured ham
pork - American ham
pork - bacon
pork - jowl
pork - odd bits
quorn
small game
small poultry game
salmon
salmon - skin
sardine
scallop
seitan
shrimp
skipjack (yellowtail)
swordfish
tilapia
tempeh
tofu
trout
tuna (bluefin, ahi, albacore, blackfin)
tuna - steak
turkey
turkey - breast
turkey - wings
turkey - ground
turkey - smoked pieces
whitebait

>>12472574
add in some not dogs and im in

>>12472574
You forgot human meat.

Honestly lost interest completely when the last guy decided to use Euro time for the deadline on a fucking American image board like an idiot.

>>12472687
We voted last guy off the /ck/hallenge island.
Come back to us. Let us make it right.

>>12472725
I may give it a shot.

>>12472574
it may be good to throw in some cheap processed curveball proteins for kicks. spam, hot dog, canned corned beef, vienna sausages, etc.

>added
sausage - andouille
sausage - blood
sausage - bratwurst
sausage - chorizo
sausage - italian
sausage - kielbasa
sausage - salumi (pepperoni, soppressata, etc)
sausage - vienna
>deleted 2 "pork - ham" options
>changed "pork - jowl" to "pork - cheek"
>added
cured - bacon
cured - guanciale
cured - pancetta
ham - american cured
ham - iberico
ham - prosciutto
ham - serrano
ham - speck

>>12472789
Overly processed/junk items will go in the third category just to ensure that there is a solid base to work from in any round.
For each round, I'll randomize one pick from the meat category, two from the center "produce/dairy/grocery" category, and one from the "junk."

>>12472799
>For each round, I'll
Or, would it be smarter to use four categories and choose one from each?
Protein, produce, grocery, and junk?

>>12472739
do eet (please)

>>12472799
idk about other anons but if there is some specialty ingredient i'm not likely to go out of my way to pick it up and will likely drop out of the competition.
if enough anon's feel the same way, it may be better to group similar items
i can get bacon, pancetta, prosciutto, and serrano easily but can't find guanciale and speck is hard to find and eff paying for iberico for a anon competition on a kenyan frisbee golfing forum

>>12472836
>I'm not likely to go out of my way to pick it up
I don't care very much about making it extremely accessible to poorfags and cooklets because that was the problem with the last OP; he tried to pander to everyone, offend no one, and it fell apart with no structure.

If you're not really invested in the competition, don't participate. I'd rather intrigue the small handful of people who would care to go the extra mile to really compete with each other and to put on a show.

Late Chef Charlie Trotter says that the only way to produce excellence is to set a near-unattainable standard. Truly challenging work is the most rewarding. I would personally be too bored to bother doing a bunch of chicken and potato dishes just so some casuals can play along with what's already in the pantry.
Sorry.

>”weird” produce
Aloe
Guava
Longan/lychee
Taro root
Lotus root
Yucca
Dragon fruit
Star fruit
Pomegranate
Purple yam
Cactus
Bamboo shoots
Bitter melon
Rhubarb
Sugar cane
Lemongrass
Tomatillo
Enoki mushrooms
Jicama
Chrysanthemum
Alfalfa sprouts
Chinese broccoli
Jackfruit
Papaya

That's a no from me dog.

>>12472860
i already voted i'd participate and i still will as long as it's not inconvenient; if no other anon's say anything then its just me and i'll be happy to watch but if i'm not the only one then im just saying swinging too hard in the opposite direction may get you just as bad a result as the last OP

>>12472886
Like I said, I'm not pandering to poorfags and cooklets. You're free to hide the thread.
Sorry.

>>12472886
I *somewhat* agree. Specific stuff like iberico and Serrano Ham we should be able to sub for a small point hit. A smart sub, like bacon or prosciutto. As long as it’s in the same group I don’t see the huge problem of you're in a less accessible area. But I think the good majority of these “exotic” ingredients are going to be fairly accessible from what it looks like, as I’ve seen mostly everything mentioned so far in the market.

>>12472901
i think you're misunderstanding? i'm still going to spectate or judge, just sharing ideas/opinions b/c brainstorming thread and want to see the next competition succeed
>i didn't get to show you all my signature dish

>>12472886
There is no way to make everyone happy. Of course I'm posting these threads so that everyone can chime in and give advice on what is or isn't too accessible, offer suggestions etc. I'll keep in mind what you said about accessibility, but I can't take everyone's advice all the time, and I'm very set on leaving many exciting ingredients in the lineup.

I live in a small city of the midwest, and even I can get a small package of sliced Iberico for $10. I wouldn't add something excessive like sea urchins or A-5 wagyu or sturgeon caviar, but I intend to make it more exciting than corn and pork chops. You'll probably have to go to a specialty shop at some point, so if that's out of the question for you, I don't think this competition will be your speed.

With only a few mandatory ingredients, you're free to leave the rest of your dish fairly cheap and simple or to pick up other extravagant additions if you so choose. You also only have to make quantity for one dish, so you can buy the Iberico, use what you need, and freeze the rest for the next week's challenge as an addition.

>>12472905
I'm mentally walking through my grocery store and thinking of what there is.
It's also up to the audience and the panel of judges to score for adherence to the challenge goals, so if you have to substitute something, and do it smartly, I'd think the scores would reflect your effort.

>>12472871
Thanks for the list. Many of these will make it.
Some stuff like chrysanthemum or taro root might be beyond grasp for most - I can't recall seeing it at even the international supermarket.

>>12472919
What's your signature dish?

>>12472986
thats funny i can actually get those things easily but not speck
>no i might have to use it for this competition; i wanna show you not tell you

>>12473157
Where do you get chrysanthemum for culinary use?

>>12473185
local graveyard.

>>12472424

> What do YOU want to see in the next /ck/ Challenge?

Ethnicity-based challenges where the theme is a country.

>>12473185
i live near a large vietnamese community so i can find dried chrysanthemum in tea and herbal medicine shops but have to drive like 45min to 1hour to find a butchery that might or might not have guanciale

>>12473351
I can't vouch for the quality, but there is a l as the selection of cures meats available on amazon.

Pretentious anon was likely to win with his unique dishes, but offended too many snowflakes last round so people had to revamp? Sounds fair.

Please ban Tiki from competing. Not only did they act shitty towards other posters, they took criticism poorly and consistently underrated other competitors. We’ll be able to tell from their first picture and meal as it’s usually piss poor quality, but for the sake of keeping drama to a minimum I think they should be left out of this one

>>12474762
I'll keep that in mind, but I also don't know anything about it, and I don't know the poster.
Some people are just spoil sports and they're bound to get in. If there's any kind of dumbfuckery we can definitely ban poor sportsmanship.

im in

>>12475888
>If there's any kind of dumbfuckery we can definitely ban poor sportsmanship.
If you act like a bitch, you get treated like one, plain and simple.
Judges should definitely have the authority to do so, although let's hope it won't come to that.

>>12475931
Too bad Tiki

>literally zero interest in the fucking challenge that died a week ago because lack of interest
>all of a sudden it's summer and a ton of people are now overly enthusiastic
This happens literally every single year. It sounds fun but you actually have to participate every week - even if that just means showing up to vote. Just keeping up with it is the most difficult part of the challenge, and nobody ever seems to realize how much of a commitment it is.

>>12475948
No, I'm not Tiki. I'm an anon who wants to see this up and running, and participate, with minimal nonsense and drama.
Also, can someone come up with a pic for us to use for the challenge threads? I'm a mobilefag, so I'll be of no use.

>>12475960
It may be summer, aye, but the old /ck/ challenge should have been laid to rest ages ago. At least it's not another fast food thread.

>>12475960
Tons of people were really disenfranchised by the last OP running the challenge.
His rules were vague, his themes were boring, and his threads were just full of people complaining. I'm hoping to rectify all of this by appealing to oldfags who used to run these challenges week by week.

>>12475973
Why does there need to be a designated repeat OP picture? That's a sign of a general whose soul has died.

>>12472424
This is even worse than chairman fuckface's categories. You realize that this is an international competition and not everyone has access to the same ingredients, right? The point of making a round theme is to offer lots of room for creativity while allowing options broad enough for most people. That's why we never do shit like bbq or dim sum. Even when we had "international cuisine roll" themes you'd get to re-roll a couple times if you got a country that you simply didn't have access to the ingredients for. The whole point of the wild card ingredient on Chopped is that it's something most people probably haven't worked with; you're not going to get past 2 rounds if you require everyone to use an obscure ingredient every time.

>>12475888
>i'll keep that in mind
Fuck off. Nobody should take you anymore seriously than the last OP who caved into trolls. Just set out the fucking rules and let people vote. It's not the contestants who ruin the competition, it's the trolls.

>>12475985
Alright, we don't need a picture, but are we just going to continue calling it the /ck/ challenge?

>>12476000
Just call it the reddit cat blog. That's how dead /ck/ is at this point.

>>12475997
Tiki mad, Tiki smash!

>>12475989
Nobody cares that you’re poor. This has been established.

>>12476000
Do you have an idea for it? I'm open to whatever you're willing to contribute.

>>12475997
Rude.

>>12476243
>rude
You're literally taking advice from an anon who spent the entire last challenge trolling non-stop. If you're actually so new that you don't realize that then you have no business trying to organize a challenge.

Might be a shot in the dark, but I’d like a competition to use any kind of “premade” spice mix you have. I have about 40 in my cabinet I need to get rid of. Ramen seasoning, white and brown gravy, powdered cheese, ranch dressing seasoning, taco mix, Italian seasoning, onion soup mix, falafel seasoning, mesquite barbecue, furikake, etc. that way it’s a broad spectrum, and we can see different dishes from different kinds of kinds/backgrounds. But they HAVE to use a premade powdered/dry soup/dressing/spice mix. (and also I can get rid of these fucking packets)

>>12476946
I'll add those spice mixes to the categories. Some stuff like onion soup mix, Italian seasoning, taco seasoning, and furikake might get their own dedicated categories because they're pretty ubitquitous foodstuffs, then maybe a catch-all option.
They'll be shuffled among literally hundreds of grocery options. There's no guarantee they'll ever be rolled, but they're in there.