/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12458316
I wish I lurked those threads more, but seemed to attract autist shit posters.

>>12458316
learn english

>>12458316
Ck is pol/tastic and oldfags have left threads to lurk more

Waiting for the next thread. I'm still deciding what to cook. What is a signature dish?

>>12460294
If 'signature dish' means something I cook often and well then that would be comfort food like a lasagne or curry. Not impressive stuff.

How do I start my own? I want to do a dessert type challenge.

>>12460714
Just get yourself a secure trip and start a thread. Lay out the challenges however you want, anons are going to complain anyway. Try not to lose interest before the thing ends.

>>12461367
Since you’re a veteran
>I’m afraid of zero participation.
>i don’t want people thinking I’m an attention whore/faggot
How do I be a good judge/host?

I liked the old /ck/ challenges when they were done by that chick that fucked her dog, and the winners got /ck/ mugs.

>>12458316
based stroke poster

>>12460304
If it’s not impressive maybe you shouldn’t select it as your signature dish

>>12461398
People will call you an attention whore /faggot for participating in anything on 4channel, I don't think you can avoid that.

>>12462011
Shut up, Audrey. Never activate your trip again.

>>12462016
:'(
The power went off here so I was phone posting and my phone autofilled the name field.

>>12462016
fuck you cunt ;^)

>>12462016
I agree with this post.
Attention whores don't belong here.

>>12461398
>>12460714
Why do you want to host one?

Nobody cares now that Yellow Mu... um, Tiki Doomer is out.

>>12461589
Like this? ;)

>>12462658
also interested in hosting one; just out of boredom, playing a game, seeing OC, get ideas for personal recipes
>>12461398
i'm relatively new so idk how the old challenges went; seems like people dislike the current host primarily b/c of his themes. i dont think his persona was a big deal, some people like that campy stuff from his early rounds
i think striking that balance between interest and accessibility. anything too difficult will result in low participation and anything too accessible is probably going to be boring. i think advertising prizes could offset some of that but again some people may not enter if they dont think they can beat the tryhards that prizes will attract; consolation prizes will likely attract trolls
open voting would be better for board interest since everyone can participate but you'll get trolls. closed voting likely makes non-participants feel excluded. the last few threads were super slow constantly dying or needing bumps unless people were arguing with each other
>>12462674
cute

>>12458316
What is that pic even?

Reminder that the last real challenge was only a little over 3 years ago. Reminder that the current challenge should be in it's final round right now, which would be the 5th round. Pic related is what the 5th round looked like 3 years ago.
>>12462797
>i'm relatively new so idk how the old challenges went; seems like people dislike the current host primarily b/c of his themes
The themes were pretty bad, but people dislike him because he's new and had no clue how the challenge went in the past. There was a plethora of terrible decisions made, but even Hearts couldn't have made up for the lack of interest.

>>12462891
Also, virtually nobody even followed the basic rules this time, and the idiot running the challenge didn't do anything to enforce them. You might as well have just posted in the fucking cat blog at this point. There were even contestants complaining about other contestants posting shit they put effort into instead of just making a meal loosely based on the theme and submitting it as a serious entry, because, "it's home cooking and not a dick waving competition".

>>12462901
>>12462891
This is why we're never going to have good /ck/ challenges ever again.
More than half the board are cooklet casuals who cry when the themes are too fun and the entries are too good. The current challenge host faggot is a big whiny baby too, and has no backbone, so he refuses to take any particular stand as far as enforcing rules or anything that might offend anyone. He keeps blubbering about how we need to be "inclusive."
Why do we need a lot of shit-tier submissions? We don't. I'd rather have just a handful of really good submissions. That's what was actually good about the old challenges - it was an actual challenge to best the other contributors, and with intriguing themes that really made you think and work for it, that made you reach out of the box.
>"rice"
>"sandwich"
>muh I wanna be everyone's best friend
Fucking hell, I hate the new challenge host.

>>12462674
Yeah! Good stuff, anon. I miss the old days.

>>12463635
Me too, anon, me too.

>>12463575
>>12462901
>>12462891
>>12462797
>>12461398
Well, let's get it back up and running, without all the Nu-/ck/ faggotry.

>>12464498
I like your attitude. We need a community-based idea dump and we need to figure out a model we can all agree on.

>>12458316
No it doesn’t is died.

>>12465106
Personally, I'd like to get rid of the "theme" idea and go back to using ingredients for the challenges.

Again, I would like to say that I am sorry for not submitting a dish in the last round. I feel that I added to the drama surrounding it.

Anyways, I really liked all the OC and talking about cooking and not just tendies. I am contemplating managing a pastry general or something similar. OC should be encouraged
I no longer have much time to cook desserts, but I will use any excuse I can to do it.

>>12465106
What about a "Anything buy dim sum" round? Where competitors submit any dish that is not dim sum

>>12465601
Another think would be actually making challenges, like having a theme but prohibiting an important ingredient. Giving each contestant a randomized pair of ingredients for him to cook, thigs like that

>>12458316
>Does cooking challenge is died?

>>12460200
If anything /ck/ and 4chan as a whole is filled with more redditors today than it ever was in the past

>>12465679
How new can you be?

I’d like to do what they do on Chopped of those baking competitions, so say we have
>fried eggs
>bacon
>sausage
>orange juice
And you have to transform them and make a breakfast themed dessert with one or more of the items. Or you have to make something savory out of an ingredient like candy or cake. That, and cooking with weird shit like livers, roe, pig ears, bitter melon, etc.

>>12458348
>>12461712
>>12465679
Sometimes I think I'm still a newfag, then I see people like you.

>>12466904
Literally never heard of this retarded meme you're talking about, and I've been on /ck/ since 2013 or so (sorry didnt give a shitabout the board before then lol)

>>12466924
>2013
>not a newfag
Let's not kid ourselves.

>>12465646
>What about a "Anything buy dim sum" round?
What the fuck lol?

>>12466879
>>12465601
I could really, really get behind something like that. Why not do a set of ingredients like a Chopped basket? It'll be a great way to coax creativity out onto the board.
People do best when they are really challenged, not left up to leisurely decide what to make. It would be fairly easy to do randomized selection; if we all came together to make a dump list of all the most common foods and sorted it into just a handful of categories (meats - plants - prepared foods), we could use a randomizer to pick numbers and assemble a challenge basket with, say, one meat, one prepared food, two veg, or one meat one veg and two prepared food, etc.

All you'd need to do this would be an excel sheet and some spare time...

>>12468025
>>12466879
also liked the idea of a chopped basket but with the state of this board idk who would go through the trouble of getting 4 ingredients to participate. probably worth a try though if anyone's willing to set it up

>>12468194
I'd be willing to give it a shot but I'm not the OP/this >>12462797 poster who wanted to.
Also, if I go through the trouble of making you faggots a list and a thread and no one plays, I will be so friggin salted.

How much time is enough time to complete the challenge? - or how much time is too much? Is a week fair?
Should we do legacy totem + timestamp rules?

>>12468025
There was this guy who really wanted a dim sum round, to the point he got very aggressive, saying we are probably too stupid to make such an amazing dish.

>>12468194
What about, aside from having your main competitors you encourage other non-competitors from posting their own dishes.

>>12468214
A week is enough
Totem is alright, but I do not know if we really need a timestamp. It would be very difficult for someone to dig up an old picture of a dish that happens to fit the round's theme alongside the totem they have being using for the entire challenge.

>>12468025
>>12468194
I like the idea of a Chopped-style competition, and the thing about it is, we could make three of the ingredients fairly standard, while incorporating a "unique" basket item, like...
>pasta, celery, dried thyme, and... beef tongue!
>potatoes, orange juice, romaine lettuce, and... white chocolate!
>tomatoes, bacon, ramen noodles, and... mayonnaise!
Or, something along those lines. Do ingredients that people (generally) have already around the house, plus an ingredient you'd most likely have to purchase.
I have a feeling there's some samefagging amongst those of us who are throwing out ideas, so it's hard to tell how much interest we really have. Maybe somebody start a new thread for ideas and input?
>>12468214
I'd be salty too, but I can guarentee my participation, either through helping to set this up, or competing.

>>12458316
That is not okoi.

>>12469218
Message me and we could arrange this over discord if you're truly interested.
hqr25x+593vvjsy6dfgk@sharklasers.com

>>12469160
I don't see why there would be any objection to timestamps except from people who were planning to cheat or exploit.
You may or may not be surprised at the levels anonymous goes to in order to cause chaos in a lowly cooking challenge on a tahitian knuckle dragging forum. Nothing wrong with a lil piece of paper.

>>12469255
My only (minor) issue was that I got my dish all plated once or twice and then forgot to make a timestamp, so I had one really nice photo and then a half-eaten time-stamped photo and then there is no guarantee which image the dish will be judged on if you submit both.
It's not that hard to write on a scrap of paper though.

I will definitely participate if you start another comp.
Until then.. Is anyone submitting a final dish for this one? I feel like making something seeing as I got this far.

>>12469255
Message sent.
I agree about the timestamps. We're here for fun, but it's still a competition. Like we've seen in the past, even the competitors (lookin' at you, yellowmug) are willing to cheat.

>>12469316
I think the current challenge is dead, broham.

>>12469304
If it comes down to it I think it should be obvious that the full presentation ought to be the judged one, but I can't make everyone judge fairly. I can only arbitrate where I can.

The biggest problem is not submissions anyway, but rather, votes and voting. I feel like vote spam and vote fraud used to be a massive issue in the OG challenges.
I wonder about doing a split judging where half the score is ratings from the thread, and the other half is ratings from your fellow competitors or a dedicated panel. Just to temper the consensus toward the more educated side.

>>12465887
he doesn't realize that getting triggered by /pol/ so easily outs him .
>>12460294
Your signature dish is the one you would most want to be judged by. Unique to you , like your signature. Chef's choice, basically.

>>12469350
I'd be happy to participate as a judge if that's the way we go. I competed in the last round and was pretty fair. No I'm not Tiki.

>>12469255
Sorry broham. That email timed out on me. If you want to send it again, send it to notusingthisforanythingatall@gmail dot com.

If we get a judge, I’m participating. This sounds cool as fuck and I have access to a lot of ingredients in my city. I ain’t the best cook but I’ll give content. We should get a sign up to confirm interest and have more than 1 person as the judge/organizer. That way if someone loses interests there’s a backup plan.

>>12469325
As a past competitor, there should ALWAYS be timestamps and totems. It's an excellent way to prevent cheating. In past competitions, we really didn't have to worry much about cheating, because most people were really ethical about it, but I don't know about people who are here now. I know I never voted for myself, and I made it veeeeeeery far in the competition, just saying. I just started lurking again after being away for several years.

Here’s a poll to get a tally on potential participants. That way we can have an idea if it’s worth it or not.
https://www.strawpoll.me/18151463

>>12469847
If I could click both, I would. I'd be more than alright with either given option.

>>12469847
>>12469885
Same. I voted participant but I'd do either.

>>12469885
>>12469917
Do you think doing both would end fairly? I wouldn’t mind having 3 judges and them all competing as well as long as they aren’t in cahoots

>>12469984
The participants could be the judging panel, just that they obviously couldn't vote on their own submissions. Then they're identity verified and have some real personal investment in the challenge.

Half judges panel, half thread votes for the score calculation. That sounds pretty fair to me. I feel the general public has a tendency to overscore and competitors would have a tendency to underscore.

>>12469350
>>12470081
also thought split judging is a good idea; maybe spam voting was a problem in the OG competitions but while I was compiling scoring info it looked like only half of the competitors submitted scores
>>12469745
single judge makes it too susceptible to cater based on identifying and catering to their personal tastes. a panel with varied preferences would be better imo
>>12469768
i kept forgetting timestamps and totems in this competition but thats admittedly my fault. i kind of want to see multiple pictures as a requirement; it'd be more difficult to cheat if you have to show prep imo. someone could doordash some decent food, replate and totem/timestamp w/o mandatory prep photos

>>12470127
Yeah, back in the day, we always made verticals, because without them, no one could see your actual cooking process. Honestly, even though it's kind of a pain, it makes it impossible to cheat with verticals, timestamps, and totems.

>>12470524
Also, I forget to say, that's what made winning so sweet, because there was proof of all your work. I remember scrambling to get my final pictures in good light, get my vertical done, and get it submitted in the same day. But it was actually worth it, and it not only increased my cooking creativity but also my ability to cook under an odd type of pressure, which has made me a better cook even now. I actually need to start making cook alongs again and verticals to go with them. I miss the days when this board had at least a little OC mixed in with all the crap.

I did the challenge in 2014

>>12470559
Hey, so did I! So some of us are still hanging around. Well, I actually left for several years, but I decided to come back and lurk and skulk around here again and see what's going on. Not much has changed since I left actually, except for people from certain other boards shitting it up a few times a day.

>>12469368
Nobody gets "triggered" by /pol/ddit. They get annoyed that /pol/dditors literally cannot discuss anything besides pseudopolitics and shit up every board on this site with them. You can't express your opinion on salad dressings without some post-2016 election 12 year old from r/The_Donald turning it into some sort of political battle.

5 participants so far.... not bad. I’m hopeful. I hope we have this up and running by Halloween because spoopy themed food would throw me into overdrive. That would be too god damn fun.

>>12469160
>saying we are probably too stupid to make such an amazing dish
Wow, and all this time I was convinced that it was just Tiki complaining about that stupid idea for a theme...

>>12469160
>do not know if we really need a timestamp
Of course we do.

>>12466904
Yeah am still a bit of a new fag towards /ck/ been on four chin since late 2015 though so not too new faggy

>>12469325
Yellowmug never cheated. He was just relentlessly trolled after Thomas dropped out. Yellowmug's entries were some of the best in challenge history.

>>12470127
>kind of want to see multiple pictures as a requirement
There was always one main timestamped entry that people voted on for presentation. Everything extra was encouraged and allowed people to get a better sense of what you made, but you were always judging primarily based on the main entry picture. See >>12462901

>>12470663
This is bait, yes?

What’s with all the fighting about dim sum? I think it would be fun, if we could make the “traditional” aspect of it loose. I’d like to make something like Peking duck bao instead of char siu or see what kind of weird stuff I can stick in a dumpling.

>>12470669
>Yellowmug's entries were some of the best in challenge history.
Were they? Were they really?

>>12458316
I like them but I can't make the files on my shitty Linux laptop so I can not compete

You fucking judges better get this shit going. NOW. I’m not waiting around anymore!

>>12470127
>>12470524
>>12470681
I think it would be best to encourage if not require the vertical.

Submit the picture of the final dish in good light, good plating, to receive your judgement, but you should be posting pics of the process, at least a couple. You want to engage the audience and explain yourself.
Usually when I try to do a cookalong I take a picture of the ingredients at the beginning and then forget to take any pictures until the final fish, but any supporting pictures you can submit alongside your final would probably help your score.

>>12471096
Why not?

>>12471781
We will post a thread to announce the new challenge, theme, rules, etc on Friday morning 6/14, to be completed by the following Friday 6/21 by 11:59pm.

>>12472241
>until the final fish
I lold at myself.

>>12472241
>would probably help your score
except it didn't. look back at sandwich round, moose had one of the top scoring sandwich and only included the submission photo and cutting board. buying a bunch a store bought ingredients and putting together a sandwich beat everyone who made their own break, cooked their own proteins, and veg. that was also tiki's best score with no picture besides the submission and objectively best looking dish, not necessarily saying they cheated but without prep photos, who says someone can't just buy the best looking sandwich from a restaurant near them? she actually submitted prep photos in the third round probably to her detriment. required verticals or prep photos, timestamp, and totem should be required if you're worried about cheaters and trolls

>>12472341
The last rounds don't count. That OP was garbage and his ideas were garbage from the beginning. The rules and rating scale will be a little different.

Anyway, we're tempering out public voting on a partial scale so dumb cooklets won't keep ruining the voting. The biggest problem facing these challenges is bad voting practice.

>>12472424
Brainstorming thread for basket ingredients for anyone who is interested in contributing.

>>12462891
That was the only time I participated. I still can't believe I made it as far as I did. My cooking skills have improved a lot since then. I'm cooking full time at a restaurant though, and hardly cook at home anymore. If this starts again, I will try to make time for it.

>>12472362
there was some contention between how participants judged each other and some anons wanted OP to clearly define how dishes should be judged

>>12472762
I'll keep that in mind. I remember that being a problem in the initial threads from the last guy too.

>>12470657
>>12469255
I am not saying that we should get rid of it, Is just that I do not see the point, you would need to have a picture of a dish that fits the theme and with a totem.
But when you put it that way yeah, the hacker known as "4chin" may find a way to cheat

However, I would propose that competitors should be able to also submit a nicer picture with no timestamp in order to let people make the best pic they can. As long as the pretty picture and the timestamp picture do not show completely different dishes I see no problem. This would be specially nice when users want to show a close up of their dish without having to fit the timestamp in the frame

>>12470651
I am out of the competition, I no longer need to hold the urge to call someone annoying

>>12474047
Of course you'd be allowed to post as many pictures as you like. If you want a really good picture and then a decent picture with timestamp, go ahead.