/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Its usually several courses made to make you try multiplel borderline art dishes. Of course youve never lokked into what fine cusine offers because you just want a large bucket of tendies.

Stop posting bait

>>12316088
That sounds incredibly overrated.

>>12316077
>I think it's pretentious and overpriced.
I'm surprised you think at all

>>12316077
You don’t pay to get full, but to experience manny interesting concepts, it is only pretentious if you try to use fine-dinning to completely substitute your diet, it is stupid since it is not designed for that.
Hating things some people like does not make you interesting, but liking things does not either

>>12316077
You have clearly never had a fine dining experience.

>>12316100
I didn't look at it like that desu. Why be original for the sake of it though? I was served tomato sorbet at a restaurant in Indonesia once (the chef was a Dutchman). Everyone around me was saying how interesting it was whereas I thought it was stupid.

>>12316077
>2 scraps of leaves
>that will be $27 plus tip
If starvation is so good why aren't libtard coastie roasties all moving to africa?

>>12316077
That's because you're a flyover poorfag instead of a normal person.

>>12316115
Oh you thought it was stupid? What a nuanced opinion you've found yourself at.

You pay for address, the nice decor, those girls with great ass you look at when thinking date not looking.
You pay for all the failures chefs made to reach this level.

I dined at several Michelin starred restaurants with my family and they arent anything special. I prefer my meals cooked in a dirty restaurants for the authentic experience

>>12316181
This.

>>12316100
>Hating things some people like does not make you interesting, but liking things does not either

check out this reddit philosopher

Who cares about your opinion on things you‘ve never experienced?

it's a shortcut for retards who want to look cultured.
it's not an art form, it's just food. go read a book

>>12316307
I suggest Harry Potter

>>12316208
>I prefer my meals cooked in a dirty restaurants for the authentic experience

It keeps the poor people away from me while I eat out.

>>12316307
>look cultured
It‘s just something to enjoy, you insecure fedorian.

a symptom of the degenerate state of modernity
as such, not worth having an opinion on

>exaggerating the fine dining prices and mocking the portions
peasants

>>12316077
>overpriced
It's not meant to be a bargain. That's the point. If you want lots of food for cheap that's called poor people food.

>>12316119
>2 scraps of leaves
>that will be $27 plus tip
>If starvation is so good why aren't libtard coastie roasties all moving to africa?
Because the attraction isn't a lack of food. It's the exclusivity of the place and the aesthetics. You don't usually go to an art museum to eat lots of food either, that doesn't mean you're going to an art museum specifically because you want to be deprived of food.

>>12316698
>waiter, this food tastes like shit

>>12316713
I've seen this video before. What is it?

>>12316077
That's the point.

>>12316729
Alinea in Chicago. 3 Michelin stars.

>>12316713
What the hell is going on here

>>12316115
Do you mean it tasted bad? The thing about artsy dinning is that it is an experience. There is probably better ways to spend your time than paying 10 bucks for a minute long zipline ride, but people do it anyways cause its an experience.

And like ziplining i eat fru-fru stuff once in a blue moon and I think thats totally fine, if someone did it every other day, unless they had fuck off money, than I would call them a weirdo/

>>12316077
It's fine, I guess.

>>12316686
actual diary of a wimpy kid, "Whats up with airplane food" level meme gripe.

>>12316077
>>12316713
Kill it. Kill it with fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01MyRVrePeM
Imagine paying $600 for this.

>autistic incels can‘t understand dining that’s not washing down mcchickens with big gulp alone in the dark in front of anime

>>12316612
Imagine being this buttblasted that someone doesn't like wasting money for a kindergartner's art project lmao

>>12316077
You are poor, so I do not feel the need to consider your "opinion"

>>12316828
they're actually delicious

>>12316077
I think people too easily fall victim to thinking some places are better than they are because of what they are paying.

>>12316906
>>12316828
>wasting the worlds helium supply
>for this

just end it all

>>12316115
The idea is to explore, people do not need reason to want to discover something new
>Tomato sorbet
Why was it stupid? Just because it does not fit your expectation of “Tomatoes are for salty food” or “Sorbets must be sweet” it does not mean it is stupid, manny times chefs just want to discover the full potential of a dish or ingridient. Stupidity would be if, for example to serve you “Tomato soup” made with broccoli as a way to represent intergenerational trangenderism or something

>>12316307
>it's just food
There is a difference between “food” and “feed”, food serves a purpose greater than nutrition, if you believe it is superfluous then it would too mean that most things you do for fun should too be abolished

>>12316925
Helium is overrated

>>12316077
If you're not a snob, you're a slob.
Simple as

When was the last time one of these pretentious douchebags came up with something that caught on?

>>12316988
Heston literally and unironically changed British cuisine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-cooked_chips

>>12316704
thats fucking stupid.

>>12316833
>if you aren't eating fine dining,your eating mcdonalds every day
found the poorfag.

>>12317056
>n-no ure the poorfag
Nice cope, nigger

>>12317068
i cook my own food cause im not a dumbass who doesn't understand how to do basic things.

>>12317045
No it isn't.

>>12317084
>Because the attraction isn't a lack of food. It's the exclusivity of the place and the aesthetics.
>i dont eat fine dining for the food, i eat it for the experience of the "exclusivity"
your a dumbass who wastes money on stupid shit instead of cooking your own damn food.

>>12317077
Let me guess, you think you know about cooking because you make NewYork steak every day but think of any other recipe as “too hard” or “Pretentious” so you have never developed an appreciation on cooking

>>12317077
>my melted cheese is haute cuisine
More delicious cope.
>>12317091
You‘re poorfag who is mad that he can‘t afford finer things in life.

>>12317004
That sounds convoluted and pointless.

>>12317094
i cook whatever i feel like cooking and dont limit myself. why should i pay some other jackass to cook some shit for me when i can learn to cook it myself and make it whenever i want?

>>12317091
You don’t go to those restaurants every day. And forgive us for thinking that food is more than just flavor. Go eat fast food, it is everything you want: cheap, makes your dopamine levels go up, available, practical, no culture or rules to get in the way of eating and you can forget about it as soon as you finish. I will be eating my pretentious food once in a while, I almost always learn something new which inspires my own cooking.

>>12317101
>all home cooked meals are melted cheese
>"y-your just mad you cant afford fine dining!
found the nigga who doesn't know how to cook.

>>12316713
>throws food directly on the table with disdain
>"clean it up, bitch"
What's next, eating off the floor?

>>12316077

I eat and cook to enjoy good food. Not too feel special cause I tuck into leaves and snail dick.

Don't see the point in it.

>>12317109
>Go eat fast food, it is everything you want: cheap, makes your dopamine levels go up, available, practical, no culture or rules to get in the way of eating and you can forget about it as soon as you finish
nah, id rather cook my own food at home that tastes better,is healthier than fast food, and less expensive that your "fine dining".

>>12317091
Where did I say I participate in fine dining? You seem to have gotten upset and imagined things that weren't in the post. All I did was explain why there's an obvious difference between food in very small portions meant to be appreciated more for aesthetics than for consuming calories vs. food deprivation itself as a feature. Nobody participates in an event like that because they're thinking "I want to be forced to eat much less than what the average person would at a meal!" You're confusing incidental details with the point of interest and then wrongly extrapolating from there that these same people should somehow want to go to sub-Saharan Africa because of the lack of food over there.

>>12317113
>all fine dining is just basic things
>“y-your just mad you cant cook!“
Found the coping poorfag.

The responses ITT should surprise no one, considering this is a fast-food and carbonated drinks discussion board.

>>12317106
nah

>>12317109
>makes your dopamine levels go u
Isn't that the umami these pretentious asshats gloat about?

>>12317124
>all fine dining is just basic things
never said that,stay ass blasted.

Basically this, but 1000000000% more pretentious not not free.

>>12317132
"Dopamine" is used in conversation nowadays as a generic reference to anything that causes a short term sense of pleasure.

>>12317133
>gets cornered
>n-no I didn‘t say that
>u-u mad
Nice one, reddit.

>>12317140
but anything pleasant causes dopamine to be released.

>>12317140
I know. That's the sense in which I was using it too.

>>12316784
Well that chink is dead, so it must be some kind of asian afterlife, like in Dragonball.

>>12317149
>but anything pleasant causes dopamine to be released.
I never said that wasn't true. I just explained how it's used in modern conversation. Didn't even begin to get into the actual neurology because that's pretentious and not necessary at all to understanding what people mean when they use that buzzword.

>>12317150
show me where i said "all fine dining is just basic things"

>>12317119
>that tastes better
better than what, retard? and better to whom?

>>12317108
How can you aspire to be a good cook if you deem those who have mastered the craft as pretentious? If that is your mentality then you are limiting yourself to what you feel safe afraid that your pride will scold you if you consider learning from cooks who dared to explore.
Establishments like these are a place for culinary exploration and experimentation that are opend to the public. Yes, manny are not practical as every-day food, but that is because their main goal is to express an idea or technique, wanting to relegate cooking as a purely utilitarian and practical disipline would be like asking architects to only make concrete boxes instead of something with beauty and symbolism.

>>12317163
>>12317077

>>12317161
oh no man i agree with you, just saying most people have no idea what their talking about when they bring up dopamine.

>>12317173
Yeah, I would prefer people didn't use words like that. That one and "quantum" are pretty high up there on my pop sci cringe list.

>>12317169
i never called master chefs pretentious, they are really good at cooking, but i dont wanna pay a master chef to cook me something that i could just take the time to learn myself for less money.

>>12316077
It's pretentious and overpriced.

>>12317171
ah i see, you misunderstood me. i didnt mean to imply all fine dining is "basic skills" although a lot of it wouldnt be super hard to re produce. i was jabbing at you for not knowing how to cook. which is a basic skill and anyone who disagrees is a dumbass.

>>12317189
>cleetus doesn‘t understand that time is money
Pottery.

>>12317189
The issue is that you value money too much to actually understand that people care more about other things than you do. An old friend who was diagnosed autismo had the same problem.

>>12317217
>>12317224
>spending money to have someone cook for you instead of gitting gud and doing it yourself
>"time is money!"
its not that hard to learn to cook,stacy.

>>12316773
>Alinea is not a restaurant...at least, not in a conventional sense. On May 4th, 2005 we opened the doors to Alinea. The culmination of years of dreaming and imagination, Alinea was a minimalist modern vision that put the focal point on the cuisine and dining as an experience.

>>12317233
It‘s hard and time consuming to learn to cook at Michelin star level, Cleetus.

>>12317251
> Alinea was a minimalist modern vision that put the focal point on the cuisine and dining as an experience.
> Alinea was a minimalist modern vision
>minimalist modern vision
>modern vision

>>12317252
you dont need to a Michelin star chef to cook good food,genius.

>>12317233
I know how to cook. I sometimes want someone else to do it for me. I know how to have fun in my house on my own time. I sometimes want to go out and spend money to have fun, too. I know how to get myself off better than anyone. I often want my girlfriend to do it for me.

You see, anon? You don't have to do the same thing forever because of money. You can be social and have fun with what you eat, can't you?

>>12317266
>I know how to cook. I sometimes want someone else to do it for me.
fair enough. i just find cooking new things to be really fun and love doing it

>>12317265
Nobody said you do, retard. You‘re literally arguing against some strawman in your head.

>>12317272
So do I, anon. You can do both, I hope you realize. You can enjoy eating out and cooking for yourself.

>>12317278
>Nobody said you do, retard
>>12317252

>>12317252
Is it. What are these guys doing that you couldn't in your 2nd or 3rd attempt with the same equipment, ingredients and recipe.

>>12317288
Who do you think experiments and creates the recipes that you can then follow, you dumb cunt? You think recipes for new things are procedurally generated out of thin air?

>>12317298
i make my own recipes.

>>12317189
If you were to try to learn a good technique you would most likely spend time and money that would make the difference in cost insignificant.
I am not saying that you should not try to learn their techniques, I am saying that if money is your biggest concern then you would be better off just paying to have someone else do everything for you in less time.
If what you are being served is a concept and not a complicated technique then I would argue that the best way of knowing the dish is by tasting it, not reading a recipie
If what you are being sold is a known taste and texture made with techniques that are not impressive then yes; it is overpriced
>>12317132
Factory food is made by asking “How can we make this dish, that would give us a good response from consumers, as cheap as possible”. By dopamine I mean simple and vulgar pleasure, that has no purpose but to feel good.
A pretentious chef would ask “I have this idea, how can I present it trough cooking in a way that people would want to take part in”. The pleasure in the act of eating is secondary

>>12317286
>you can make good food without being a Michelin star cook
>it takes a lot of time and hard work to cook to become a Michelin star cook
Are you mentally challenged or something? Those things are not the same.

>>12317309
did you bother reading the other replies in that chain or are you illiterate?

>>12317327
>points out specific reply where I supposedly said something I didn‘t
>gets BTFO
>b-but those other replies
Based retard.

>>12317345
alright then,see>>12316833
>>12317094
>>12317101
>>12317109
>>12317124
>>12317217
>>12317224
>>12317252
there is your list of people who think "home cooking=melted cheese", and "good food =Michelin star level"

Goddamn you can smell the Californians in here. We need to annex you shits desu

>>12317360
Half of those are me and none of those stated that only Michelin food is good food. Once again you‘re arguing with a strawman in your head.

>>12317217

>>12317360
see
>>12316833
>>12317101
niggas equating home cooked food with melted cheese>>12317252
was in response to>>12317233
literally never said you needed to be a master chef to be good at cooking>>12317252
was the one who did that.

>>12317382
meant for>>12317370

The average cook is a slob, a filthy pig, completely careless and disinterested in their craft and product. It's a double digit IQ profession.

Fine dining is like fucking a smoking hot preteen girl.

There isnt alot of it, you dont really do it too often, and it goes by really fast, but during that short period of time, everything is made up perfect and it is succulently sweet.

This thread is populated by normal, reasonable people who actually know how to cook, and then a couple whiny faggots who just keep using “c-cope” because it’s their reddit buzzword and they’re coping with the fact that they can’t cook.

My prime reasoning for knowing they can’t cook is they assume all things that aren’t “fine-dining” are McDonald’s, melted cheese, and steaks.

>>12317382
The melted cheese comment was a response to your equating haute cuisine with „basic skills“, apparently misunderstood by me.

>>12317403

>>12316077
It's practically hors d'oeuvres without booze. Boring

>>12317409
understandable, i wont argue over something that was a misunderstanding, but >>12317252
sounds a lot like someone saying you have to be a master chef to make good food, and you almost certainly understand that thats fucking stupid.

>>12317407
This thread is populated by normal, reasonable people who actually know how to cook, and then a couple assblasted poorfaggots who just keep using “y-you just can‘t cook” because it’s their reddit buzzword and they’re coping with the fact that they can’t afford to go the restaurant once in a while.

My prime reasoning for knowing they’re poor is they assume all things “fine dining“ can be achieved by a home cook in a couple of hours.

>>12317433
no one ever said you can become a master chef in a few hours.

>>12317427
It‘s not. It means exactly what it says on the tin. You can be good or a great cook, but becoming one of the best is another thing altogether.

>>12317433
If you had changed reddit to /ck/ I would’ve accepted your parody of me, but everyone on reddit is a 16 year old that can’t cook. You’re obviously incorrect because of this.

You probably can make the same stuff fine-dining establishments make at home, but to be autistic enough to purposefully waste food on “experimental” ideas would be fucking stupid. Real life and real food isn’t Hell’s Kitchen you dumb nigger.

It sounds like fine-dining is the supreme of food culture, it’s overpriced and usually ugly, but it’s got a brand so the fanboys cum in their pants when they hear about it.

Reddit is actually a very well laid out website with information on a variety of topics and a great community. It has more useful information and logically archived topics than any imageboard.

>>12317461
>everyone on reddit is a 16 year old that can’t cook
Not that different from here desu.
>it‘s overpriced and usually ugly
It sounds like I hit the nail on the head with my poorfag comment. You‘ve obviously never been to a fine dining venue and think most if not all „fancy“ restaurants is some molecular gastronomy tier autism for $500 a plate like in Alinea vids ITT. Pro-tip: stop being poor and visit something besides Olive Garden and your local gastropub, instead of rationalizing away your poorfaggotry.

>>12317510
>It sounds like I hit the nail on the head with my poorfag comment

So I never understood all the hatred and or jealousy for those sites from here over the last 9 years.

Its more of a clubhouse we are better than you mentality for no real good reasons (usually).

>>12317520
If the shoe fits.

>>12317539
>someone doesn't enjoy expensive restaurants and perfers cooking at home
>their poor and cant afford anything

>>12316773
>3 Michelin stars
Top Chef fan here. First time I've ever seen this. Usually you see 1-2 Michelin stars. Is there a five-star Michelin restaurant, or is that like Persian rugs where perfection is considered impossible because only God can obtain it, so it's never ranked 100%? Is there a four-star Michelin restaurant that exists?

>>12317553
That wasn‘t the reasoning at all. Try to read it again, you‘ll get it this time, I believe in you.

>>12317555
is there anyone with more than 2? i thought the ranking only went up to 3. but i have never seen any one with more than 2

>>12316077
It's a viable option for a special occasion / 'hey guys what if we all went to x fancy restaurant this friday'. I can afford the occasional spendy dinner. I've had dinners at expensive places that lasted a few hours and my friends still bring em up every once in a while. Usually it's fun but I only ever go to a 'nice' dinner 4-5 times a year. More if I'm on a trip.

>>12317555
>>12317569
Watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi now.

>>12317566
>It sounds like I hit the nail on the head with my poorfag comment. You‘ve obviously never been to a fine dining venue and think most if not all „fancy“ restaurants is some molecular gastronomy tier autism for $500 a plate like in Alinea vids ITT. Pro-tip: stop being poor and visit something besides Olive Garden and your local gastropub, instead of rationalizing away your poorfaggotry.

>>12317569
>>12317575
How do they even come up with the ranking system? Do they taste test every year and determine which are 1-star, 2-star, etc?

>>12317605
Yes, people are payed to eat at restaurants and report back

>>12317575
Baka gaijin treehundid dorrar

>>12316088
FPWP

>>12317605
The people who do the ranking have likely eaten at over 100 similarly ranked restaurants, but their identity is always 100% anonymous. If one is found out they're out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelin_Guide#Stars

>>12317577
Yes, you‘ve mastered the copypaste function, now you‘ve only to learn how to read.

There‘s nothing wrong with not enjoying fine dining or thinking it‘s not worth the money. Everyone has their preferences. It‘s another thing altogether to build up some ridiculous strawmen in your head to justify how it‘s „objectively“ bad and how everyone who enjoys it is some pretentious fool. That is nothing but a textbook case of sour grapes.

I don‘t enjoy ballet or Formula racing, at least not to the degree that I would pay a few hundred bucks to see Baryshnikov or Hamilton live. But I also don‘t feel the need to come up with some asspained rationalizations for how these things are stupid and overpriced and how all those interested in them are silly pseuds. Mainly because unlike you I‘m not an insecure poorfag, and other people spending money on their hobbies or entertainment of choice doesn‘t evoke an unconscious need to come up with excuses for why I couldn‘t afford to if I wanted.

https://youtu.be/1h0Qm4qPn2Y

>>12317640
>>12317461

>>12317652
Yes, that‘s precisely the type of sour grapes I‘m talking about.

>>12316900
I'd rather eat a nice big bowl of pasta

>>12317660
thats why your a dumbass
>i dont like fine dining because most of it isnt much better than what you can do at home and is stupidly expensive
>"y-y-your just and insecure poor fag who cant afford anything! sour grapes! cope!"
thats what you sound like

>>12317673
>this thing is not actually that good, because I can‘t afford it
>this isn‘t sour grapes btw
A five course menu at my local one-star costs $100. Average hourly wage in US after tax is about $20. If you can flawlessly execute five haute cuisine dishes alone at home on your first attempt within 3-4 hours after finding all the ingridients at bulk supplier prices, then I applaud you. Otherwise I stand by my point that you‘re a moron.

>>12317555
4 and 5-star Michelin ranks are only awarded during times of global war.

>>12317712

>>12317710
no one ever said we cant afford it genius, maybe you need to work on your reading comprehension. and no,you dont need to be a master chef to make good food, you are just really bad at cooking.

>>12317569
Yannick Alléno and Thomas Keller have 6.

>>12317730
Collectively but not for any individual restaurant

>>12317723
>“good food“
>ure just bad
Yeah, that‘s what I thought.

>here's your steak bro

>>12317735

>>12317745
I already gave you an argument with concrete numbers. You keep coping with your „good food“ though.

>>12317741
>wow.. it tastes like.. art.. sure glad i came famished..
>the greens have fiber, maybe they'll help with the hunger
>i hope theres calories in the sauce
>do they serve bread here
>i wish i were on /ck/
>i want a mcchicken

>>12317753
>"argument with concrete numbers."
>"concrete numbers"
>"any food that isnt made by a Michelin star chef is trash."

>>12317769
>keeps bringing up his retarded strawman over and over
Yeah, you need to visit a psychiatry specialist.

>>12317741
>Course 6 of 16 course tasting menu
>Believing that's the whole meal
You poor fags really are retardedly obtuse

>>12317780
>"m-muh strawman!"
so then what is your position jackass?cause i dont even know what the fuck your arguing for anymore.

>>12317780
>$100
>ramen costs 25 cents
>ramen without seasoning packet costs 15 cents
i can buy and eat 400 ramens w/ seasoning or 666 ramens w/o seasoning for the same price as your michelan meal

>>12317787

>>12317795
You could actually read my posts instead of posting funny meme pictures in reponse to voices in your head.

>>12317799
>not making your own ramen.
peasant

>>12317806
>implying i own a ramen factory
cant just make that shit retard

>>12317803
>dodging the question
there it is again.

>>12317811
>he doesn‘t grow his own ramen
>>>/r/eddit

>>12317811
yes you can.you do realize not all ramen is dried instant ramen right?

>>12317787
Can you ask for the rest of the steak in a takeaway bag?

>>12317813
I‘m not dodging anything, I don‘t feel like retyping the same things over and over because you struggle at reading. This isn‘t Snapchat, you can scroll up and try again.

>>12316077
most fine dining is fine. even most michelin 1star fine dining is fine. its the 2-3 stars that do modern bullshit and twitsts and shit.

>>12317825
what would they even say if you asked for it to go?

>>12317830
funny you talk about reading things again, when you cant even properly read two sentences correctly and completely dodge questions and miss points all the time.

>>12317830
>" I don‘t feel like retyping the same things over"
yea honestly i would to if i typed 5 paragraphs all the time and couldnt make a point known succinctly.

>>12316077
Ditto.

>>12316077
well it is definitely that, but its also kinda good sometimes

>>12317846
>n-no u
Half your replies is le ebin reddit reaction pictures and greentext. The only dodged point so far has been you unwilling to address >>12317710

>>12317849
>I struggle to comprehend text that isn‘t memetext two-liners
Yeah, I gathered so much already.

>>12317855
i addressed that here>>12317723
like i said, i think your the one who needs to read more.and you are dodging questions. see
>>12317723
>>12317735
>>12317753
>>12317769
>>12317780
>>12317795
>>12317803

>>12317865
>if you dont take the time to read my 10 page essay on a point that can be made in 6 sentences, you are stupid.

>>12317872
Do you work at one of these scam restaurants? Is this buyer's remorse? Tell us Anon.

>>12317872
So are you saying you can perfectly cook a five course Michelin star dinner from scratch in 4 hours on your first try?

>>12317887
no, i dont. you see? i told you that in a single sentence, i didnt need a paragraph.

>>12317894
i never said i cook as good as a Michelin star chef my entire point is that you dont fucking need to, your the one coming up with straw men and attacking ghosts.

>>12317881
>half a full 4chan post
>10 page essay
Dropping out of high school must have been tough. Maybe don‘t try to argue if you can‘t even understand what you‘re replying to.

>>12317905
>what is laconism

>>12317900
>my entire point is that you dont fucking need to
I didn‘t say you do. Seriously, see a psychiatrist.

>>12317912
>"i didnt say you do"
>>12317894
so have you always been retarded,or did you suffer some kind of injury?

>>12317921
Kek. This is becoming a farce. Is this stupidity trolling or something? You claimed that fine dining is stupidly expensive, so I gave you the sample prices. Unless you can reproduce the same exact experience cheaper at home there‘s no basis to call it expensive. That is all that this post referring to. Please, do take your medicine.

>>12316828
I'll pay half that for the girl holding it

>>12317948
you dont need to reproduce the exact experience, you can make something thats"almost" as good at home for half the price. why is it un reasonable to prefer saving money and making something nearly as good at home instead of dumping lots of cash at a restaurant? i dont give a shit about "fine dining" your just so insecure about the fact you crave admiration from others about eating "fine" food that you accuse anyone who doesnt feel like it of sour grapes and coping.

>>12317979
Yes, I‘m sure you also think your daily econo-shitbox is „almost“ as good as Porsche and your shitty state college is „almost“ as good as Ivy League or Oxbridge. This is definitely not coping.

>i dont give a shit about "fine dining" your just so insecure
Literally in the second sentence in >>12317640 I said that there‘s nothing wrong with disliking fine-dining. I know reading posts over 10 words long gives you migraines, but you should have been able to reach it.

Do go on though, it‘s very entertaining to read your 50th reply in a thread about this thing you totally don‘t give a shit about, based foxbro.

>>12318019
>" theres nothing wrong with not liking fine dining."
>"your just a poor fag trying to cope"
also
>your shitty state college is „almost“ as good as Ivy League or Oxbridge
community colleges are shit, but aside from that
>"if you dont go to one of the most prestigious schools in the world, your stupid."
>" if you dont drive expensive sports cars your a broke nigga."
and you continue to prove my point about being insecure and seeking the admiration of others.

>>12317757
you get more than that you dumb rural fuck. you get multiple courses. jesus why cant you guys understand this?

>>12318044
>multiple courses of single slice of meat or one leaf
wow

>>12318037
As the aforementioned post stated you‘re a coping poorfag not because you don‘t like fine dining, but because you don‘t like it and spend hours online justifying it to random people on the internet.

>>12318044
Except you're paying the same for that bite of steak as you would be paying for a whole steak at a nice place.
It's a scam.

>>12318054
i dont need to justify my dislike of it, ive had it before, id rather just make my own food at home.i only get bothered by fags like you who like to act all superior cause they can "appreciate" "fine" and "artistic" experiences at "fine" restaurants that keep the riff raff out. that argument applies to you too you know, why do you feel the need to justify spending your money there if you really believe we're just poorfags trying to "cope"?

>>12318065
no you're not.

>>12318088
>>12317745

These threads always stink of sour grapes, faggots making out like all fine dining is like alinea or noma and hyperbolising the price.

>>12318094
found the samefag.

>>12318090
You're not because you're paying for a multiple course meal, not just that tiny bit of steak. And if you look at the grain of the meat, it's obviously waygu, not just a slice of filet or ribeye. so you're not paying the same amount for that steak as you would a steakhouse. keep trying to rationalize all you want, but it's not frivolous. fine dining has as much of a place as fast food or whatever your favorite restaurant is. it's not going anywhere. making snitty internet comments about things you don't understand is not insight.

>>12318085
But I never justified myself or implied I am superior in any way. Once again, in that very post I linked above I said that there‘s nothing wrong with not liking fine dining. I merely made fun of people like you who clock in several dozen replies in theads about things they supposedly don‘t care about at all.

>>12318108
multiple courses still doesnt justify that tiny piece when you could just have an entire steak at home.

>>12318097
>s-samefag
The desperate cope of a faggot caught out with nothing to respond with.

You'd have to be wilfully blind to not notice these threads are permanent reruns.

>>12318112
alright,so why do you keep arguing? someone says they dont see the point in paying for food that is expensive, and you accuse them of sour grapes>>12317461
>>12317510
your the one trying to justify your own money habits.

>>12318119
there is plenty of responses in the thread already,no need for me to make another to some lazy jackass who doesnt wanna read them.

>>12318108
You're only going to eat a certain amount of food regardless if it's 2 or 20 courses. A pretentious $300+drinks and tip meal won't fill you more or weight more on a scale than a $20 Burger King meal.

>>12318135
burger king is way un-healthier though.

>>12318113
Aint it crazy how people say things like "it isn't worth it" instead of "it isn't worth it to me"

>>12318122
>someone says they dont see the point in paying for food that is expensive
That‘s not what he said though. He went on about it being no better than home cooking, wasteful, ugly, stupid, overpriced and brand-driven. And that is precisely the difference between disliking something personally and having sour grapes.

>>12318138
Way tastier too.

>>12318135
and a BBC will fill you up even more, poorfaggot. you can even get it for free.

Friendly reminder that if you don't have a Centurion card, you're poor and shouldn't be calling anyone else poor.

>>12318129
Because it's always the same sour grapes and, lets be honest here, bold lies.

I go to my local fine dining restaurant that's well reviewed in food and wine press and food guides a few times a year, two to three courses and a couple of glasses of wine for twice my hourly wage.

>I can cook better at home
You can cook better than a tradesman with a couple of decades experience? Sure thing bud.

>le jiro forced meme
>le ants
>le table dessert
See my first post in this thread.

>>12318150
he went on a tirade about"experimental" cooking.
he never said fine dining was bad,just that you could "probably" do somthing similar at home for less

>>12318160
>I can cook better at home
no one is saying they cook better than someone who has 3 Michelin stars,you just cant read.

>>12318166
Not can't read, won't read. Like you are choosing not to read my posts.

>>12318163
Well, if you want to get pedantic about it then here‘s a direct quote
>fine-dining is the supreme of food culture, it’s overpriced and usually ugly, but it’s got a brand so the fanboys cum in their pants
which is clearly not just about experimental stuff. But in any case, I‘ve made my reasoning clear.

>>12318167
ah,so you admit it then, good to know your posts can be ignored.

>>12318171
in the above paragraph was the tirade about experimental cooking,which is what he called stupid.
and in your quote here,he never called fine dining bad.just overpriced and not visually appealing.

>>12318173
In a 200 post thread, the same repetitive fast food addicted sour grapes memesters, NEETS and liars will have said everything I just responded to and more. Just like every other time this thread has been posted.

>>12318182
>fast food addicted sour grapes memesters, NEETS and liars will have said everything I just responded to and more
now i know you really dont have reading comprehension.

>>12316077
Only fine dining I know is Basque. AMD like the Basque, they got all the flavor of French with none of the pretentious BS. Sizable portions, plenty of soup and salad before the main course, and a heaping plate of food that manages to be artsy while still being filling

>>12318198
what is that?

I'm so fucking horny

>>12318198
Ah, very nice. Good to see the chef is following Triscuit's Instagram page for inspiration

>>12318200
Arzak my friend, thank you for another filling meal

>>12318194
Cope. But you have got me to read a couple of posts after using the search function.
>fast food addicted
>>12318152
>liars
>>12318135
>$300+drinks
>>12317622
>memester
NEET is just an insult, no fox is going to admit they can't reach grapes no matter how low they hang.

>>12318230
>"cope"

>>12318247
Funny how much your replies and the portion of my post you reply to shrinks down to almost nothing nothing every time I bother to make an argument.

>t. I don‘t give a shit about fine dining and I‘m not coping:
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>>12318286
You seem upset. Have some ice-cream. That will be $30.

I sense alot of reddit in this thread, so I just want to say, Hillary lost, get over it :^)

>>12316077
If I order a $20+ plate of food and theirs not enough on it to at least reasonably fill me up I'd be furious.

>>12316077
>pretentious and overpriced.
yup. But women love it because then they get to take pictures and post it to their facechatter or whatever in their never-ending passive-aggressive war to out-do each other by wasting other people's time and money.

how are you supposed to eat the small dishes with sauces all over? also do you eat the garnish

>>12318648
>a poorfag and an incel
Now that‘s one powerful cucktail.

>>12316208
Professor Food, did you forget to take your meds again?

>>12316077
(you)

>>12318135
>>12318113
not everyone's goal in eating is to eat the most of everything. In that case you should be eating only whatever you can buy the most of. You can buy a 100lbs of rice for the price of a good ribeye at a nice steakhouse. maybe 20 bowls of rice instead of a nice steak.
>in b4 you suddenly don't care about about the cost to quantity ratio when your dumb ass logic is exposed

>>12316612
>hardcore
>I used tweezers so it's $100 a pop
Marketing and consumerism scam. People only go to fine dining restaurants because they read reviews by paid shills on the new york times and tyre merchants. 9/10 I saw the guy on TV must be good cause I paid $200.

>>12319635
>must be bad because I can‘t afford it
When will we finally repurpose poorfaggots for biofuel?

>>12319660
>Must be good cause I blew my entire life savings on it
Sure thing richfriend, stuck on 4chan shitposting instead of eating uni off some black dick.

>>12319746
>I‘m poor so everyone is poor
Good God, it really is a mental disease.

>>12316077

Types of brainlets ITT:
>if you wanted to accomplish something in this life you shouldn't have wasted money on a useless degree like art
>"anon fine dining is about the artistry."
> literally pays hundreds of dollars to eat some cullinary art student's food. Most have no real world experience with cooking in a restaurant which means no refined palate.

Hard pass. 99% of the time you are overpaying for a faggoty college boy's idea of good food.

>>12316900

>Shit I've run out of idea for this 12 course meal. I know! I'll just run a carrot through a meat grinder and call it tartar. Stupid foodies won't know how simple it is and they'll think its genius!

Foodies need to die.

>>12319827
This is the worst bait yet.

>>12316077
>I think it's pretentious and overpriced.
Yeah, Cletus. Skyline Chilli and Ambrosia are the true pinnacles of the culinary arts.

>>12316077
>it's pretentious and overpriced
This is proof fine dining is not for you.

>>12318157
>Mfw I just have a regular Amex Platinum, but it's metal so people think I'm a fucking millionaire
Another note, customer service line for Platinum/Centurion cardholders' is genuinely amazing