/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I only ever drink coffee at home where I can make it myself because every place I've ever ordered coffee at tasted like shit

Most normie containment thread on this entire site. It's bean water. Fuck off. Al/ck/ was a better general than this bullshit.

>>12241864
Whats the easiest way to brew coffee at home? I dont have alot of time in the morning or room in my kitchen

>>12241879
Strain ground beans through your thong

>>12241879
Moka pot works great if you like espresso like coffee.

>>12241874
>That image and response

>>12241864
People addicted to coffee should be round up and dealt with. What a faggot drug to be addicted to.

>>12241872
I feel you. I usually have a few tea bags in my wallet since I know a lot of places serve up lipton.

>>12241889
Yep. It's like people on heroin talking about a chocolate flavored needle tip. Junkies

>>12241884
"edge" is a buzzword for liberals who have no argument.

>>12241904

>>12241904
based
>>12241911
"no argument, better post a bait img I got off /pol/!"

>>12241904
Buzzword is just a meme for incel migtows that dont have an argument.

>>12241938
not an argument, commie.

>>12241938
It's not worth it. I shouldn't have responded in the first place.

>>12241959
Correct. Because you can't refute what I say, you choose to ignore it.

>>12241879
I just use a Behmor Brazen when I wake up hungover.

>>12241981
What does it taste like? Nice stash btw.

>>12242014
>What does it taste like? Nice stash btw.

Decent drip coffee.Pour overs are better, but I needed to be caffeinated to roast and then do cuppings while the dreadful existential crisis of a terrible hangover loomed over me.

>>12242014
Picture pic related but left out in the sun for a few days. It's truly amazing how modern coffee and modern hunters can interfuse like this. Wild caught coon tastes like absolute shit. Coffee beans from my arena local picked taste like shit. Like pottery They rhyme

The universal shitposter spins yet another web.

>>12242027
Oh cool, you're a roaster. Bummer you have a hangover. Hope it clears up soon man.

>tfw coffeeniggers rely on jannies to police their threads because they can't handle banter or shitposting
Pathetic

>>12242080
It's more about having a modicum of decency and trying to contribute. No one can truly police you so its only up to you to not be detestable.

>>12242050

>>12242095
nigger

>>12241864
Ahh, my favorite thread. So what's everyone drinking today?

>>12243186
Had some of the last of Orens two bridges in my moka. Going to the store to grind up some of my Doma Carmela. Yes I'm a pleb that store grinds. I do enough for 4-5 days and still tastes way fresher than preground. No I don't care if that makes me a faggot.

>>12243212
Isn't grind quality more important than grind dates when it comes moka pots? As long as you're not making coffee with extremely old beans, I don't think pre-grinding will do much damage. So you're in the clear frend

>>12243235
With moka pots you want coffee that is ground inbetween drip and espresso; fine ground. To corse you get shit flavor, too fine water doesn't filter right. The store I go to has self serivce commercial grinders with every coffee type setting from French press to Turkish. Granted coffee has the clean fresh taste the first day or two, but the flavor doesn't diminish near enough to warrant a grinder. When I take the French press pill I will get a good grinder.

Bump

Thinking in buying a v60 and aeropress, opinions?

I'll be back --- for a refill ;)

>>12244821
Aeropress seems like a beanmeme that's for people that don't want to nail down their pour over technique. You'll probably have to adjust grind size, water temp, and possibly pour technique if you want to get the best cups from the v.60, but thats only if you want to be a nitpicky fuck. Otherwise, even mediocre "beginner" use of v.60 will be fine if you're used to perc or a french press. Just get your grind size down and you'll be golden.

>>12241864
Are there any redeemable and decent quality k-cup coffees? If not, what's a good cheap-but-quality coffee for pots?

Is there a coffee time general pastebin or wiki? I am thinking of adding coffee to my morning routine and was looking for some reading to start off a little more on the patrician side of things.

>>12244880
Are you the anon from the last thread who is stuck in a hotel with a Keurig machine.

>>12241864
is there a widely available brand that has great flavor? or do you all order in bulk from somebody

Got a concha from a gas station that had the smallest number of ingredients listed. Don't know how """authentic"" it is, but I don't see why these get shit talked so much.

>>12246085
I have gotten mine from grind-your-own coffee from luckys market and now get some from drink trade. Honestly just grinding the beans from the bulk section of a store is going to be a good step above buying preground.

>>12244821
Aeropress is awesome, very different from pourover. Only real downside is that you're kind of locked into a maximum volume output, but immersion + pressure makes for a different cup profile compared to pourover.
>>12245051
DESU I was thinking of starting one that other anons could contribute to for our collective knowledge but wasn't sure if it would actually be worth it. Might be useful to answer a lot of the repeat questions in these threads

i over extracted my coffee and it came out bitter. should i raise my grind size or lower my extraction time?

>>12245051
>>12246607
The tea people have one. Even if it was just a collection of harder to find roasters and brief overview of the basic flavor profile for most coffee brewing, that would be nice.

>>12246609
That depends. How are you brewing it.

>>12246609
Changing your grind will effectively change the extraction time. Either coarsening up or reducing your time steeping will reduce the extraction

>>12246785
inverted aeropress, i give it 45 seconds before i press

What is the best cheap coffee to buy to have on hand at all times? As much as I love to buy and drink better coffees, I can't bee buying 8-15etc dollar per lb coffee consistently.

Trader joes medium style coffee is pretty good at $3/4.99 but you don't get as much as "cheap shit".

Whats your favorite[s]?

>>12248389
>$8 pound is expensive
You can't possibly be this stingy

What's the cheapest way to brew coffee?
Now I pour in water and cover my cup with a small plate for a few minutes. Is that enough?

>>12248389
Drink less coffee, drink better coffee

>>12250700
Folger's/instant or just don't drink coffee if you're going to be a huge fag about price

I missed half&half in my coffee. It's just comfy man.

>>12250700
Last thread mentioned some cheap ones. Honestly just grinding the beans before brew or pregrinding a weeks worth at the store is going to give better results than buying old preground coffee.

>>12250770
>>12250845
Maybe I asked the question the wrong way. What I was asking is how to extract the whole essence from the grinded seeds without buying expensive tools like a coffee express. It's now about the price of the coffee but about the tools/technique. And I'm already grinding coffee for fresh brewing.

>>12250892
Well that depends, do you want bright light body coffee or strong espresso type of coffee? Brew methods are going to be better for certain beans, roasts, and flavor profiles.

>>12250892
Just get an aeropress it's $30

>>12251020
This or French press. A barista on here a while back said if you want to treat coffee like a fine alcohol and get every nuance, French press is the way to go.

will i die if i steep grounds in water at room temp for awhile?

>>12248965
If I'm spending like 8 (or even as much as 15) on only 1lb of coffee which I go through in like a week or less, yes, it is expensive. It adds up.

>>12251048
Why would you die?

>>12251058
>it adds up
Any amount of money adds up, $8 for a pound is already ridiculously cheap and if you're drinking a pound a week then your consumption must be 2-3 cups daily. So just cut back on your intake and your purchase will run longer, or switch to instant or caffeine pills since it's obvious you only care about the energy, you fucking drug addict

>>12251060
i don't know i'm not good with cook

>>12251063
Lol what a cunt you are. I don't care only about the energy, I love the coffee I buy and I buy all kinds. I was just asking what the best cheap coffee is to buy, like the Trader Joe's. Jesus, didn't take your mental pills today did you?

>>12251060
Everybody dies eventually but give your spirit to Jesus and heaven is its own reward.

>>12251077
my dude you are complaining about how expensive it is because you drink an insane amount per day. You would save money by just drinking less and purchasing caffeine pills to supplement. I don't know what your idea of "best coffee" is because I can't imagine anything that costs $4 for a pound being any good. Maybe start buying commodity grade robusta in bulk raw and roast at home. Your current use pattern is like a crackhead.

>>12251080
>satan hasn't already called dibs

>wake up in the morning feeling refreshed and energized
>have my morning brew with cereal and pastry
>feel tired as shit in the next hour

>morning allergies, congested nose
>pour a cup of coffee
>sit at my desk
>read something funny on the chinz
>snort
>mucus shoots into my coffee
>mfw
thanks for reading

>>12251861
*Hug*

>I'll have your largest size latte
>For here
>Decaf
>Extra hot
>No foam
>3 pumps of vanilla

>I'll have your largest size
>Decaf latte
>0% milk
>Extra hot
>No foam
>3 pumps of vanilla
>What do you mean your largest size is 16oz?
>Do you not have 20oz?
>Ok but your losing customers
These decrepit people are the bane of my existence, I'm trying to serve coffee, not brown. Fuck off to Tim Hortons if you want that shit.

>>12244880
Best k-cup I've had is an Ethiopia Guji from Amazon.

>>12252043
>coffee, not brown
Coffee is VERY brown

>Only drink black coffee
>People tell me that different places or beans taste better or worse
>Hardly notice a difference, and couldn't tell if it was lined up in front of me and I was blindfolded
Just can't take the extra sugar. It tastes better with sweetener, but it often makes me sick after so long just choking down black.

>>12252275
>announcing that you can't taste

>>12244880
Honestly, your going to get a better brew using the reusable ones and putting in your own.

>>12252444
How does one improve their tasting ability?
I've cut out all carbonated drinks from my diet. Is this a good start?

>>12252844
If its soda and from a health perspective yes. You just learn over time to taste food. I started to learn by reading tea articles on tea tasting.

>>12252888
Not from a health perspective no, I just work as a barista and am aiming to work in specialty coffee in the future. The place I work for gets it's beans roasted to order 15 minutes away.
I just want to get better at identifying the more subtle tasting notes.
Right now I'm in charge of grinding and dosing the espresso. I can't identify our espressos subtle notes but I know what ok,good and great espresso tastes like. I travel around Vancouver tasting as much espresso as I can on my days off just so I can see what's good and what's bad.
>I'm a total pleb basically

>>12252844
I'm not gonna pretend like I'm a sommelier but yeah avoiding shit that damages your smell/tongue helps keep them working well. To taste better you need to develop a palate, which ultimately comes down to trying as many different kinds of coffee as possible, try really high end shit and then compare the differences you notice to lower grade stuff and everything in between. Be mindful and attentive to what you're tasting, try to think of what it reminds you of and read the tasting notes to see if you agree with any of it. What you're doing is developing a frame of reference, and it starts to become automatic. Slow down and appreciate every sip.

>>12241874
>Coffee isn't actually beans.

>>12246197
From what I've seen of concha so long as the packaging looked hispanic it's prolly pretty close

Anyone tried making coffee with beer in it? i tried one in a certain coffee shop, it was pretty good and i was thinking of making some myself but i don't really drink beer so i have no idea what would mix well.

>>12254712
why bother when coffee liqueur or irish cream exists?

>>12254716
Because i already do that all the time.

>>12254735
then no reason to downgrade, my lad

How much caffeine is ok to consume daily? Considering 80 mg of caffeine per 10g of coffee. I try to stay under 350 even though the FDA says 400 is fine.

>>12241897
>ordering 3 dollar tea when it's literally the cheapest shit in the world to make in your own home.
>being so autistic that you carry tea bags on your person to drink outside of your own home

jesus christ anon.

>>12254981
>let me ask 4chan what's an acceptable amount of caffeine instead of listening to the FDA guideline

>>12254712
A stout. Oatmeal, chocolate, dark.

>>12241959
Don't bother posting next time, you useless shit.

Am I stifling my coffee potential by not owning a bean grinder? I buy bulk beans at a local grocery and use their grinder, lasts ~2 weeks. Am I missing out on truly great cups by not owning a grinder?

>>12256024
Yes. The absolute best coffee is ground no earlier than immediately before brewing. But most people won't notice the difference.

I just bought a pour over kettle and funnel (or whatever you call it) and made my first cup. It turned out pretty strong and bitter. I used the metal filter it came with and I did possibly use to many grounds. Would using a paper filter and reducing the amount of grounds give me a better cup? I was a bit disappointed to be honest.

>>12256027
>you're

>>12256027
Fixed it for you fren

>>12256033
>bitter
Reduce your extraction by coarsening up the grind. Make sure your water is 195-205°. Google "coffee compass" to help diagnose your cup

drinking some nasty ass coffee rn because too lazy to go to a good store.

>>12253596
It was from California, so that helps. Got another one from Walmart; I think the gas station was better. I just don't get the shit talk. Its nice sweet bread with crust. Only complaint is it's a crumb generator.

>>12255558
>I pay $3 for tea solely when I'm out eating
There is only one place I do that, abs that's because it's legit twian oolong and I want something nice. Most places charge $1-$1.50 for tea. Sad part is most places only offer Lipton which just tastes like tannins. So yes I have a couple in my wallet just incase I feel like tea. Hell most places don't bother charging you for hot water.

>Pleb anon who wants to taste better here
How's your morning going?

>>12256274
Woke up sore as shit and with a headache. Took some advil and a hot shower so I feel better now. Had some coffee that is a mix of doma carmela and the last bit of orens two bridges mixed into the doma bag. Tastes good. Kinda gives the carmela a fruity aftertaste.

That coffee shop looks comfy. Like I can get a legit nice coffee. Are you the barista anon?

>>12256333
Yeah, senior barista. The coffee shop is a franchise of "Bean around the world" and the owner is an interior designer.
Current dose is 19g, starts running at 3 seconds and stops at 24. Love ristretto shots

>>12252444
Different anon but I’ve had my nose broken in eight places with two sinus cavities collapsed
It’s a miracle I can taste the coffee let alone the nuance

>>12256546
I keep a nasal decongestant with me in work at all times just in case I get bunged up. I'd honestly rather a chain smoker calibrate my espresso grinder over someone why can't smell anything

I usually like to do espresso

Sometimes I brew in a buchner funnel tho

>>12256501
Sounds nice. I'm guessing you live in a hot climate since it doesn't have the cliche cozy warm vibe, but cool and calm. I need to try the different espresso shots one day so I know what they taste like.

>>12256594
>>12256602
Not dissing your setup but this proves what an anon said last thread that coffee is like cars, but gayer.

>>12256594
>>12256602
nice equipment and all but what the fuck are you doing LARPing as a mechanic

>>12256594
>>12256602

This is why we need a new war.

>>12256739
I want a dedicated table to not take up counterspace. Pegboards are generally useful for storing things in a quick and easy to reach way, as well as mountind things like my shot mirror. So the table works out. Convergence because of similar goals, not divergence from a mechanic's setup.

>>12241959
you deserve to get bullied outside of this thread

>>12256743
We need a new war to make war loving incels experience it.

>>12256594
What lever machine is that and is that the grinder on the right? This seems like extremely over-designed bullshit

I'm in Vancouver, so it's not too hot and not too cold. Most chain stores like JJbean and other bean around the world's try to go for the "cosy" vibe. But most specialty coffee shops like Timbertrain, revolver, nemisis and Milano downtown aim for either an industrial or a sleek and modern look.
Pic related, Timbertrain coffee.
Our owner wants more of a specialty coffee vibe which is nice, I get to ensure that I'm serving the best coffee possible and not coffee as fast as I can make it.
If you want you could just go to a slightly more up market coffee shop and ask for a latte, flat white and a cortado, compare the difference. It's a great place to start when trying figuring out how different times affect your overall drink

What's your favorite bean to roast?
And what's your favorite blend, to those who have created blends?

>>12241874
You're too young. You don't understand yet. There are a lot of subtleties and delicate taste notes.
I'm sorry your first and only experience with coffee was cheap Folgers-tier. With the correct knowledge on roasting and flavors, you can create something truly delicious. Hopefully you give coffee another chance, when you're older and able to appreciate such things.

>>12241874
I used to absolutely despise coffee. But as I've gotten older I've grown to really appreciate good espresso. I never had a good coffee until I was 24, just instant and supermarket BS coffee. Give it time, don't rush it and don't go for;
>Muh super dark ciggeret coffee
Light roasts are your friend

>>12252930
google the starbucks tasting notes chart it helped me develop my palette a lot. i'm a barista too

>>12241864
A reminder, to never get coffee from Blenz if you live in British Columbia.
I worked at one for three months after I quit my job as assistant manager of another cafe, was stuck for rent and couldn't leave. Was run by the Egyptian version of Mr Krabs.
>"Anon, I don't want you adjusting the timings on the grinder"
>"I set it months ago"
>"You're wasting espresso"
>Mfw the biggest size espresso bag we could buy in was 1lb
>"Anon, you don't need to clean them every day"
“We clean the portafilters every 2 weeks"
>"That bottle of cleaning powder lasts us the whole year"
I got so many grey hairs working here, I became depressed because I was ashamed of myself, serving that disgusting excuse for coffee. Glad I'm out boys.

>>12241864
Just got some 'salted caramel' and 'German chocolate cake' beans from bulk barn

they smell fucking amazing

>>12254981
>>12255731
>fda guidelines
yea, the government gives a fuck about you. follow your own nose.

Nescafe Instant coffee. I dont have time to play with my caffeine like you children. All black. no sugar, no cream.

>>12258434
It always amazes me how people can have an ego about being lazy

>>12258417
Right on man

>>12258557
i don't like ice in my fingers of liquor either. what's so bad about being straight forward?

>>12258557
>>12259063
It's fine if they like instant gratification and no frills. You dont have to sound like a douche because some people like to take time to make their brew.

rate my turka

>>12259464
>he doesn't even have hot sand

>>12259477
i'll just wait a couple more years to harvest commieblock crumbles. concrete and paint do a much better job than sand

>>12259464
Ornate and cool. Might have done Turkish if I didn't have a moka pot.

>>12259464
Nice turka, anon

>>12241874
>It's bean water.
It's nut water you fucking retard

>>12259523
thanks fren
>>12259518
honestly, i usually drink instant coffee, the less shitty kind of it. i imagine a moka pot is even handier than turka

Bump

i've just bought a moka pot. made my first coffee with it. i know i 'shouldn't', but for now i'm using ground coffee. i have a really stupid question: are the grounds still supposed to be there when the pot has boiled? the coffee tastes a bit weak. maybe it's just me. still, it's a step up from instant.

>>12259662
It's a low effort way to make strong tasting coffee. I was raised on drip and kur*g, but my roommate had a moka they never used. Used it and loved the taste. Got a baletti now. Its not the most nuanced coffee, but it's great. I can see myself liking Turkish though.

>>12256893
Thanks for the advice. I do like cortados.

>>12258334
Cringe and noted.

Tasteless pleb anon here,
Just doing my grind and dose. How's my grind looking guys?

>>12261411
Like in the filter holder part? Yes, you don't want the grounds coming up from the top. What size grind are you using? Grind size affects the taste greatly.

>>12261432
yeah, i'm using already ground Illy Espresso Tostatura Scura. i expected it to taste stronger than it does.

>>12261466
I could be wrong, but so far I am seeing it to be used in capsules for specific machines. Moka as an espresso is a misnomer, as it refers to espresso pre ww2. Moka pots are 1-2 bars of pressure while I think espresso gets around 9. With moka you want fine grounds; between drip and espresso.

>>12261525
interesting. i've seen people say they use that coffee with a moka/bialetti so i went with it.

>>12241864
>>12261421
what are these little candies you're having with the coffee?

Bought my GF some coffee when I was in Mexico and turns out it is whole bean but I don't have a grinder and have no reason other than to try this coffee to go out and buy one.
Will I get any type of decent results if I just throw that shit in a blender?
Going to use a cheap drip coffee machine so I am assuming the coarseness won't matter.
I guess does anyone have experience using a regular kitchen blender to shred up some beans?

>>12261556
Don't blend it. Get an air tight jar and bring the coffee to a cafe and ask if they can grind it for you and put it in the jar. Get it done for French press. You can pick up a French press pretty cheap and it can be easier to brew than pour over and tastier than drip.
>Pro tip: French press served with breakfast in bed scores you massive good by points
Just keep it in an air tight container for now, that'll give you more time to research and ask questions about what you want.

>>12261616
Yeah I should definitely pick up an airtight jar.
Don't really frequent any cafes since I moved, but I think she is friends with someone that works at a Starbucks, I guess that is an option.
Normally at home I use a Moka Pot to make my coffee using some pregrind stuff I get at the grocery store but she only has a regular coffee machine at her place, maybe I could get a french press for when I go over there but honestly doubt she would ever use it for herself.
Thanks for the input.

>>12261649
Some grocery stores have grinders that you can use too.
You technically CAN grind your coffee in a blender but you lose almost all control over your grind consistency which isn't good. If you want to try it out, start with a small amount. Just be sure to give yourr blender a clean afterwards as coffee is oily.
It doesn't matter if she uses it all the time, she'll appreciate the gesture.

>>12261649
Starbucks won't grind whole bean unless it is there brand, and unopened bag. Look for grocery stores in your area that have grinders in store like fresh market and luckys market.

>>12261549
Thread picture is cheap Easter chocolate from merican Aldi's. The other pic is carrot swiss cake little debbie. I like sweets with my unsweetened coffee.

>>12261543
Don't know what to tell you other than: are you sure it's that illy coffee specifically, and are you sure your not compressing the grounds when you put it in?

>>12256594
>>12256602
>pegboard for coffee shit
At last I truly see

>>12256820
>>12256594
Answer me you bitch

>>12262009
>insults their coffee station
>why won't they answer

>>12241904
An argument to what? You not liking coffee? Take your fucking meds.

>>12262208
Pussy

>>12262472
I'm not that anon, but no thanks. I'm on a diet.

>>12262476
A dicks only diet?

>>12262478
You know it

>>12261422
I'm not smart enough to know, but it looks nice to me.

>>12253005
OK, I've taken your advice. Trying out $1.35 espresso. Will post back in a few minutes with feedback.

>>12264366
Kek

Should I buy the la pevoni europiccola? I am very autistic with pour over at home and various espresso machines (though have never owned my own).

Do I go full autist for my first personal machine?

>>12265649
You can do better, get a heat exchanger e61. Pavonis are only worth it if you're trying to show off and act pretentious.

Rainy morning. Last of the carrot Debbie's. Need to bake some butter cookies.

>>12264366
Starting at the lowest low I see.

>>12266111
>>12265563
Ok, so I may have went straight home, cooked dinner and played yakuza when I got home rather than report in.
Firstly, was served before I could count out my change, slightly disturbing because I watched her put it on.
The espresso wasn't hot, just really warm with a very thin crema. Our espresso is roaster to order so always has a big crema because it doesn't have a chance to de-gas, but hey I don't mind because I know it's super fresh. It didn't really smell like coffee either.
First sip, wasn't too intense, tasted mostly of dark chocolate
>This might not be so-
>The aftertaste
>My mouth hates me
I was getting this weird chemical soapy almost taste. It was fucking horrid.
It left a weird, texture lining my mouth. I can only describe it as slimy plastic. It took me 15 minutes to walk home and I had that chemical taste and slime the whole way.
It wasn't overwhelming, but because I do the grind and dose then check the espresso throughout the day, I was able to notice it.
Other than that, I didn't really pick up on much. Guess I'll notice more notes when I taste more.

>>12266456
Well now you have the frame of reference of absolute shit, now try something ridiculously expensive but highly rated. La Palma geisha maybe?

>>12266484
I think I'll set a rule for myself going forward that I have to rotate between good coffee and shit coffee. So tomorrow I'll have a good espresso then on Saturday I'll get one from a truck stop.
Pic unrelated; my espresso

>>12266872
Looks tasty.

>>12266872
Interesting strategy. I can't say I would do it myself but I respect the process. Probably keeps the taste a lot fresher in your memory too

Turns out I've only been using around half of the coffee I should be in my french press, I've been using 40g of coffee for 1L of water.

>>12266965
>When your press puts up less resistance then the actual French who made it

>>12266965
>there's (singular)
>people (plural)

>>12267093

>>12267103
>being too autistic to get the joke

Evening lads. Going to buy a moka pot. Do I want a 1 cup or 3 cup for one person? Tempted by the 3 cup desu.1 cup looks tiny. N-nothing wrong with drinking 200ml/6.7 ounces of espresso each day right? What would the caffeine content of that be? I keep reading conflicting info on the ""right"" caffeine amount.

>>12267133
It's not espresso

>>12267133
moka pots only function correctly if you fill them and brew the capacity, so you should buy what you'll be making most often

>>12267133
Depends: are you going to be drinking traditional small espresso or like I do where its more or less an americano with half and half added? Moka isn't espresso, by our modern standards and I don't think it has as much caffeine as espresso. I have a 3cup pot and would recommend even if you're drinking tiny cup coffee; its for flavor reasons. If you know for sure you like moka get a baletti. They created moka, come in a variety or colors and styles, easy parts to replace, and better made compared to the cheaps at the store.

>>12267133
i have both but recommend smaller one for 1 person

>>12267194
>>12267197
>>12267253
thanks lads. desu i think i'll chance it with the 3 pot.

>>12265691
Dual boiler. HX is fucking outdated garbage. Silicon is better than you at controlling temperature, full stop. HX is nonsense to even still be in production in 2019. Or even in fucking 2000.

>>12265691
>>12267331
Also don't get an e61. It's a trash heatsink of a group. Get something actually temperature stable. Actively heated (DE1, BDB, etc), saturated (GS3, etg), or at least close enough to the boiler to not be a heatsink (Pro 300, etc).

>>12267346
No shit those are better. I recommended HX E61 because it's cheaper for the performance you get out of them, and you get some level of temp/preinfusion control manually. I was going off cost savings for performance, not max performance. If price isn't an issue then yeah obviously go crazy and buy a fucking slayer. He was asking for la pavoni in the first place so I offered something using a historical mechanism as well.

>>12267372
Slayer is shit that uses outright lies to sell products. If what they claimed about their flow profiling being fundamentally different than pressure profiling was true, they'd be Nobel prize winners for disproving our entire understanding of fluid dynamics. The two are inherently the same thing controlled at different points.

A DE1 is better than a Slayer in all relevant ways:

>>12267405
I agree with you friend. I was exaggerating the suggestion with the most expensive home machine I could think of.

does anyone else here brew and filter their own cold brew coffee?

I see a lot of specialized "cold brew machines" on the market that people seem to be drawn to, but nobody seems to realize that all you need is a large bowl and some cheesecloth.

>>12267405
coffee anon what is it with baristas using slayers with crazy long extraction times like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJgUpdp-Hxw

>>12267636
I was aware but the kits make it easy to brew a 12oz bag in one go. I settled on OXO's, which has a nice metal filter and is easy to use and clean.

>>12267660
Despite what that fag is saying, Slayers use flow control for super long preinfusions which allows you to essentially bloom the puck gently and get a nice even extraction from light roasts

>>12267636
Is there any downside to keeping the coffee grounds in the container indefinitely? I make my cold brew with coffee and a pitcher. I let it brew overnight, then stir it. The stirring makes it so the grounds settle at the bottom. No filtering at all, and I pour slowly to ensure no grounds make it into the glass.

>>12267791
It will continue to brew and you'll have wasted concentrate in the slurry at the bottom.

>>12267806
So... stir it every night? A pitcher usually only lasts a few days.

>>12267821
If needed, stir once when you add water. Filter after steeping for 12-24 hours at room temperature.

>>12258417

While 4chan, the website that has multiple deaths on its collective conscience and whos members cannot go 5 minutes without telling each other to kill themselves, really does care for you and will always give honest, sensible and accurate advice and guidance, am I right?

>>12267849
>>12258417
>>12254981
FDA doesn't test long term health effects. Government financed university studies do. It's all market demand driven anyway.

>>12267636
I don't know about a cold brew "machine" but there are relatively cheap pitcher flasks with metal filters that I'd say are worth it.

What does /ck/ think of my coffee machine at work?

>>12268148
>single serve
into the trash

>>12268148

>>12267660
>>12267763
You can also use pressure profiling for the exact same thing. Flow profiling is just pressure profiling with a valve. P=FA. It doesn't matter if you pump 9bar and stick a valve in to limit the flow, or run the pump weaker to reach that same flow. It's fundamentally exactly the same in the group. Slayer's claims of flow profiling being different are exactly ae believable as claims a machine could run at a net decrease in entropy. It's just fundamentally against well established physics.

>>12268195
The needle valve allows for greater control of the flow of water hitting the puck in preinfusion compared to a standard pump, though yes outside preinfusion you are correct

one of these knockoff distribution tools worth it or no?

>>12268241
I've heard those are worse than just doing it by hand

How to make coffee in this at home?

>>12268213
Depends on the pump. Decent manages it with a dual pump system, gear pumps can do it pretty well, etc. Even then, Slayer doesn't take advantage of the valve in a way to allow for bloomed espresso, flow rate profiling (god I hate trying to talk about flow RATE profiling since it's always mixed up with Slayer's flow profiling) during the shot, etc. It's a neat gimmick for preinfusion, and innovative at the time, but they've fallen way behind.

>>12268241
They make the puck pretty, but don't distribute anything. A paper clip unbent into a straight line is a legitimately better tool for distribution. If that's too ghetto for you, which it is for me, a $10 stainless steel dissecting needle is as good while looking much much nicer on the counter.

>>12268298
STC's method is pretty good

>>12267636
Tasteless anon here,
This is what we use to make cold brew at work. 5lbs makes you about 15 liters

>>12267636
It comes with a bag and a try to hold your coffee bag. Here's how fine it is in case you gont want to buy one, rather improvise

>>12268336
Fair enough, slayers are meme machines. It's still a nice feature, only downside I've heard about them is that they break a lot. As far as the DE1 goes I'm really excited to finally have something in the market that will push innovation for home espresso, it's fucking crazy what they're doing wth that machine at that price.

Can you please elaborate on why not being able to brew a pot of espresso is necessary?

>>12268566
>a pot of espresso

what do you mean anon

>>12268583
It was implied that it only being single serving is what made it shit. Espresso are single serving usually so does this thing need to be able to make a pot of espresso to not be shit?

>>12268608
Moka is fundamentally not espresso

>>12268422
Scratch "home" man. Thing can do twice as much as a $10k Synesso, can do the role of a Poursteady or SP9 but better, and multiple DE1CAFEs (say two dedicated for espresso and two for automated pourover, but all with the ability to switch) vs one two group and one poursteady gives a lot of backup if one machine breaks down.

>>12268670
I would say it needs some time before you can really say it's cafe ready. I don't think it's really been stress tested enough in high volume for several years to compare to LM. Plus the fact that you can't steam while pulling but that is a very minor complaint. In terms of functionality and output it can't be touched, but who knows how well it can stand up to extreme stress?

>>12257458
I mean you're not wrong but this post is reddit as fuck

>>12267253
>>12268566
You mean this right?

>>12268962
The DE1CAFE model can steam and pull at the same time. And honestly if you're trying to be up on tech enough to be using one, get a fucking Übermilk too.

am I going to be made fun of for bashing beans with a hammer and just throwing them into a pot of boiling water. Not a poorfag, just not interested in spending the money on a coffee maker when this bean juice tastes good as is.

>>12252043
>latte
>0% milk
What...

>>12270581
I think they mean skim milk.

>>12270060
No it can't. Again I go back to the fact it might not be suited for high volume places if you plan on using all the fancy profiles, just the way it controls the pump must put on a lot of extra wear I'd imagine

That feel when you wake up early in the morning, but it's still dark out

>>12267636
Can't imagine buying a machine for cold brew. All I know is when I decide to cold brew I'm getting one of those $15 Mason jar kits and calling it a day.

>>12268148
I get a bad feeling the work environment is shit.

>>12268406
>>12268419
Neat

I mix 3 heaping coffee scoops of dried coffee with a good shake of dried creamer and like a tablespoon of nesquick with whole milk

what to you think?

>>12270915
Basic bitch pilled. Also...

https://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8

>>12270915
I think you're trying too hard on 4chan

>>12268608
That's not what I meant. Get the word espresso out of your head related to moka; it's a misnomer. Without going into details common optimized moka brewing is to take the pot off the heat and run cold water on it to stop the brewing. This is done when the brew streaming out turns light and watery, since the last part of the brewing process adds bitterness. That means you end up left with 1/3 - 1/4 water left over unused.

So if you apply that to a one cup pot your left with a thimble. 3 cup pot your left with an extra large double shot. Do what you want, but I strongly suggest 3cup for better taste, more coffee to use, and flexibility in being able to make faux espresso drinks. Remember: moka is not espresso.

>t.moka_brewer

>>12270904
Nah, work is chill.

>>12270746
It can. You need to be following their Instagram and Rao's Instagram for news on it. The DE1, DE1PRO, and DE1XL can not. The upcoming DE1CAFE can.

>>12271028
Thanks anon. So you say it doesn't make real espresso even though there is an option for it on the machine. It makes a moka concoction instead? Im a black coffee drinker the espresso and mokas are not my strong areas.

>>12271318
>Option for it on the machine

What moka are you looking at? Do you mean the ones that try to make more crema?

Hello everyone, hope yall have a good day.

>>12271314
Weird. I googled it to make sure I wasn't lying and that's what it said on their website, but on another page it says it can. What the hell is the XL?

>>12271443
XL mostly just hides wires in a larger case to look nice on counters you can see the front and back from. And the DE1CAFE wasn't originally going to do both at the same time, that was changed later. You need to be following them and Rao on Instagram, or be in the Slack group, for those kind of updates. Presumably, the site will be changed once it's available to purchase.

>>12272064
>instagram
Nah.

>>12272098
>Instagram
>bad
Not saying it doesn't have cancer, but it's better than Twitter.

>>12272107
It's owned by Facebook, that's enough to turn me off completely.

>>12272098
It's pretty much impossible to keep up to date on coffee stuff without it. The only other sources of information are pretty bad, shit like HomeBarista's old men stuck 60 years in the past or /r/coffee's "whats the worlds best espresso machine and grinder I have $50 so I should have money to spare"

>>12272123
Eh, I hate them to, but I use them for reasons. Don't hold it against you though.

>>12272186
I mean I guess I already follow a bunch of coffee people on twitter and YouTube, mostly roasters I like to follow their releases. I'm too poor to pay attention to espresso gear anyways.