/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12154564
That and a shitty food culture that’s more about food as fuel than as cuisine. The exception being barbecue and seafood boils. Also Wonderbread and similar brands of cheap enriched white bread has done more damage to America than the Taliban ever did.

>>12154564
>Greece has a life expectancy of 24
Oh but OP their food is so much better wtf is going on?!

>>12154579
>BMI of 25 or over

Brainlet...

>>12154564
Then why does America dominate you? Why are many of the best universities in the world in America? You can't account for that. Stay mad.

>>12154595
That's their ranking, doofus, whoever made that is just retarded.

>>12154613
Yes, because 25 is where overweight starts. Durr.

>>12154623

>>12154631
Actually, overweight starts at 20.

HFCS

>>12154564
>American

Greek here. Americans have a lot of nice food it just seems like the portion sizes and ingredients are large and poor quality respectively.

Burgers are still awesome though.

Carbs are toxic

Gorillas convert approximately 70-80% of the matter they consume into fatty acids prior to absorption by way of their gut bacteria

We lack these microbes so we have to produce huge amounts of insulin to cope with the sugars and become resistant leading to obesity, heart disease, arthrosclorosis and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease

Bad diet guidance, possibly in bad faith, that favors grains and sugars instead of fats.

>>12154564
The government gives corn farmers money to grow shit tons of corn that gets turned into high fructose corn syrup. The food industry then adds the corn syrup to everything even when unnecessary because fuck you that's why. Meanwhile fast food restaurants encourage people to drink sugary soda. They might have ten different high sugar soda options but one foul-tasting "diet" cola, and if you ask for water they only give you a tiny cup of water.

>>12154795
>carbs are toxic
Imagine being this stupid...

>>12154842
It's the truth. Most megafauna are designed to be in a ketogenic state in nature.

Carbs are a caloric filler and not commonly found in nature and when they are they only exist for a few weeks in Summer

>>12154851
boy you really inhaled that fat keto dick, didn't you?

>>12154851
>not commonly found in nature
Do you know what seeds are?

>>12154858
>404: argument not found

>>12154878
Something you shouldn't be eating

>>12154851
>not commonly found in nature
Utter retard.

>>12154851
>Carbs are a caloric filler and not commonly found in nature and when they are they only exist for a few weeks in Summer
Modern hunter-gatheres still get like 200 calories a day from honey. That's like 50g of sugar. The difference is that most people are consuming closer to 70g a day while being sedentary which is what makes it unhealthy. There's even been genetic testing done on farming populations that shows they adapted to eating more starchy food. Carbs are not inherently unhealthy, but how people consume them is. Anything will be unhealthy when you're eating too much and not exercising enough.

>>12154890
Yes, goy. Eat the grain sludge. Oh yes, there is a difference between high fructose corn syrup and pineapple.

>>12154902
Paleo diet is for manosphere subhumans. Remember roissys blog? Le chateau autiste?

>>12154881
enjoy your coronary heart disease

>>12154631
>That's their ranking, doofus, whoever made that is just retarded.
The rankings are completely ridiculous then, please link the source so I can check it.

>>12154858
>Sure you're right but... you're gay!

>>12155215

You some kinda homo lover?

>>12154631
>>12154595
>>12155206
sorry, i should i have specified thats the ranking in life expectancy
heres the source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#List_by_the_World_Health_Organization_(2015)

>>12154851
>the "nature = healthy" meme
go eat some dirt, its nature. or some "natural" snake venom.

>>12155419
>Life expectancy is ONLY 80 years in America
OH SHIT OH FUCK EVERYONE PANIC, OP IS A FAGGOT THIS IS NOT A DRILL

>>12154564
Yes, I think a lot of companies guy introuble cause they knew adding more salt or sugar to shit, even if it didn't need it, would set off stuff in your brain that made you want more of it.

It's getting better but it's still shit. You have to wean yourself off. When you do you realize how disgusting it is.

>>12155435
imagine being this buttblasted over small facts

>>12154784
So, it's in New York?

>>12154623
In terms of citations of scientific works per capita, the US is easily beaten by more economically free countries like New Zealand or Switzerland. These countries also produce more frequently scientific works at a lower cost as well. US only leads in number of citations because of its high population, it's socialist economic policies and bureaucracy prevent even its universities from being useful.
Plus all that subsidized red meat and corn probably makes people's brains function less, or at the very least kills them with heart disease.

>>12154784
they are americans in vacation

>>12155419
Kind of frightening that 2017 saw a decline in US life expectancy at a rate not seen since WWI, while real first world countries continue to increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/health-science/us-life-expectancy-declines-again-a-dismal-trend-not-seen-since-world-war-i/2018/11/28/ae58bc8c-f28c-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html

>inb4 b-but muh washington post
Yeah, reporting on a public record government study which somehow escaped the jingoist censors of this administration.

>>12155439
I'm not assblasted anon, you're the one who made the topic. Sorry I pointed out flaws.

>>12155439
>Saving this pic and making this topic
>Not buttblasted
Suuuuuuuure anon. Why not go to bed early so you can think what tomorrow's America topic will be?

>>12155960
no other country on earth lets people in on the scale we do our averages are brought down by 30% of our population being from 3rd world countries

>>12155992
>Why not go to bed early so you can think what tomorrow's America topic will be?
but its already midnight...

>>12155419
switzerland rank 2, while all we eat is molten cheese and a fuckton of carbs. really makes you think

>>12156194
switzerland has good healthcare and 0 crime compared to USA

>i'll have the salmon
>we dont have that but we have fried catfish and you get enough to have leftovers!!
around here portion sizes seem to be more important than quality of food, it's pretty frustrating iibh

>>12156202
>0 crime compared to USA
Gee, I wonder why that is?

>>12156395
no americans or school shooters

>>12154564
its a conspiracy !

>>12154564
We've had cheap industrial food for so long that most people are generations removed from someone who actually knows how to cook. Standards have been lowered as a result.

You laugh, but you are looking at your own country's future.

>>12155419
imagine having only a 70 day higher life expectancy then the 'communist shithole' cuba which you have been economically trying to fuck and sabotage over the past 50 years to everyone's detriment
thats a yikes from me, easy on the HFCS amerimutts

>>12156517
With big macs come big responsibilities, you wouldn't understand desu

>>12154916
You're a fucking retard

>>12156008
>30%
Lol, You mean 40% and 90% of their ancestors were here long before your sickly pale ancestors crawled begging off the boat.

>>12154564
the amerimutt brain is less evolved then their african and native american ancesters

>live in two states with the lowest rates of obesity
>eat mostly well, exercise and get enough sleep
>feels good man
Fuck those dumb fat states, Colorado and Mass is where it's at.

Colonized america started in bad health, poverty, and food scarcity ie jamestown and Plymouth so foods high in calories that were easy to obtain became important to what eventually became the American diet. Also im gay

>>12157992
im gay too

>>12154564
Historically, the best and most traditional foods of a region are usually made by the poor and needy using local ingredients they are familiar with in desperately creative ways. In the US the local ingredients are basically nonexistent, the poor and needy usually foreign, inbred stupid or too busy being borderline slaved/genocided to actually try cooking stuff.
>>12154807
>The government gives corn farmers money to grow shit tons of corn that gets turned into high fructose corn syrup
Case in point, corn farmers fulfill the private demand of corn syrup to make food cheap and tasty, the execs pay government officials to pass laws to make syrup even cheaper, the mutt still finds a way to blame a problem very clearly caused by a few private enterprises for very obvious reasons on mu gubbimint.

>>12155992
You keep replying....

>>12154639
No. It starts at 21

>>12154902
Potatoes are not commonly found.. Yeah OK retard

>>12154564
What is an American diet? If someone overeats, they get fat. This doesn't belong to America.

At 105lbs I genuinely ate pizza and fast food every week or two and didn't gain a single pound.

>>12154564
Most of our bad habits are shit leftover from coping with the great depression

All of it, from the "staples" we eat to the national disrespect towards healthier eating. Every american is afraid of eating too little. It's just something we grow up in not explicitly.

>>12158943
>Every american is afraid of eating too little.
Speak for yourself, Brit
I think you forgot we used to have an entire industry of manufacturing anorexia

>>12154595
Almost all Greeks smoke a pack a day. This is a fact.

>>12158950
Why call me a Bong. I am in love with America my country I am not afraid to discuss her roots and flaws

Anorexia is a mental Illness affecting the whole world

>>12158943
Sounds interesting. Do you have any videos or info on this?

>>12158965
I don't. But it's not an uncommon sentiment, I wasn't the one who came up with it. People just understood that after the great depression the American attitude towards food took a huge national shift and never really strayed away. All the ethnic cooking and trendy stuff is always just a form of heresy that we are actually okay with, just like other moral transgressions we are okay with now because Americans still believe they are number one, so they think they are setting examples to the world by pushing progressiveness to it's limit.

Basically we eat how we live. Still eat like shit at home that is just great depression era eating with a brand new coat of paint, but then followed by the occasional dining out at the gastropub.

Our food reflects our politics

Obsessed: the thread

>>12156517
What's the matter with Colorado and Hawaii?

>>12154564
everything if fortified with corn syrup

>>12155419
Imagine if half of the Aussies didn't die to spiders hiding under their toilet seats

>>12156395
Unsurprising lack of Americans/ Africans/ Asians.

>>12154842
Everything is toxic (harmful) in right amount.

>>12154623
Best universities as in how?

>>12159781
Best at having the majority of "students" be spoiled rich brats whose parents bribed the uni to accept and give a degree to.

without trying to start some shit, but i think it's due to european food developing from what they had and american food getting developed for what they want.

>>12159015
you wish

>>12154564

How is it possible to be fat? I genuinely don't understand it

>>12154564
there was a huge marketing drive against fatty foods as the culprit of obesity

people pushed carbs and sugar, and fat-free laden products that were still loaded with refined HFCS

I think americans just love sugar, I mean think about southern american barbeque, they can't eat it without drenching it in HFCS sauce, and then basting it in HFCS sauce, and then dipping it in HFCS sauce and eating it with refined white bread and 3 servings of carbs in either some salad (drenched with more HFCS), mac and cheese and beans swimming in more HFCS

>>12154564
>be american
>be 24
>be /fit/
>healthy BMI, blood pressure, glucose
>total cholesterol is fucking 270
>no family history of high cholesterol
What's wrong with me /ck/

>>12156517
I love how Florida for the most part is just slightly less fat than the rest of the South.

>>12160101
Did you ever do keto?

>>12160123
Often
Is it that simple?

>>12160081
Tha laws of physics dictate thaat where the intake of fuel exceeds that which is expended, it will be stored in a chemical format in the human body.

>>12154564
Sugar is addictive, so they pump that into American food from a young age.

“Cooking is hard and messy” so they tell you to eat out

Subsidies make shitty, cheap, fattening fast food burgers less expensive than a head of lettuce

“Healthy food is gross and tastes bad” is a message constantly reinforced.

Gluttony is a joke and isn’t shamed in the slightest

People actively mock healthy lifestyles. If you want to be “one of the guys” or accepted in a standard social circle you have to eat pig slob and slog down alcohol and sugar beverages on a regular basis. Out with friends it’s shunned to get water, grilled chicken as opposed to a burger

>>12159015
>UK flag
>not EU flag

>do they just get used to overly sweet stuff since an early age?
No, the primary characteristic of the American diet is an excessive preference for fatty foods and a habit of adding fat onto everything

>>12160270
eat things with cholesterol, cholesterol goes up.
Eat saturated fats, cholesterol goes up.
Don't eat enough fiber? Cholesterol goes up.

It's all the corn syrup. It's sugar but the body doesn't treat it as if it was as potent, so you can handle eating more of it.
It's in everything.

>>12160588
>preference for fatty foods and a habit of adding fat onto everything

No.

It's the national guidelines that created the obesity epidemic in the first place while claiming that the population is following them.. It's the presence of highly processed foods, tons of carbs, and industrialized seed oils.

Fat isn't the problem and this has been pushed for decades and has been debunked time and time again. The "low-fat" craze has been around forever and obviously hasn't worked (which has been known the entire time).

bump

>>12154795
BASED AND FUCKING REDPILLED

>>12154878
Toxic and literally for the birds

>>12154795
we arent fat because of that
we are fat because we just go to a supermarket and buy our food
gorillaz swing from trees and have to hunt or move for their food

>>12163315
That is in fact very true. To this day the national guideline is plain wrong. Almost if it was intentional.

>>12158919
Natural, wild potatoes will kill you

>>12154579
>percentage of overweight population
>filename is "Obesity"
these are 2 different things.

>>12154623
how does that have to do with the OP?
i swear, if this was a board with flags you'd just deflect based on the OP flag, fucking retard

>>12160601
Cholesterol is good for you

>>12154851
>Megafauna
I bet you follow the best Facebook health groups.

Ahem, fuck amerimutts and their minority white ZOGstate.

Amerifats are obese and ugly. And not white

>>12156008
Life expectancy is decreasing because of drug overdoses and suicides; that isn’t happening solely to immigrants.

>>12154564
Tomatos are nut Mediterranean