/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12148188
looks like a mini-convection for retards

>>12148261
It’s like that but you cook with an app

>>12148188
>lives in an apartment with such shitty cooling that he cant run his oven
>accuses other people of being poor
Lmao just lmao

>>12148188
mom had one. they don't heat up your house as much as a standard one, but they still do to a certain extent. Worked pretty well.

>>12149677
That's exactly what he said.

I have no idea why anyone would buy one of these.
>>Executive #1: let's take a simple tool, cuck its functionality and make it harder to use. We'll jack the price up too!
>>Exec. #2: But that sounds stupid, who would buy that?
>>Exec. #1: Millenials. We'll make an "app" for it and they'll be all over it!
>>Exec. #2: Great idea, Herschel! We'll be RICH! Break out the Manschevitz, it's time to celebrate.
>>Execs. 1 & 2: L'Chaim! (unison)

>>12148188
Pros? I see you mention them not turning the house into a sauna, how does that work?

>>12149749
Because it integrates with meat thermometers and stuff like that

>>12149758
1) why would you ever need it to do that?
and
2) even if you do have a use for that silly feature, why would you cuck the rest of the oven to get it? It's added complexity, added points of failure, and in the end it doesn't even work as well as something which costs a fraction of its price. It's paying more money for an objectively worse tool.

Is this the new juicero?

>>12149756
So a regular oven takes like half an hour to preheat and hours more to dissipate the heat. I usually start my AC around 3 or 4 pm from my phone, and it’s comfy all evening. If I had to use a full size oven for dinner, it would have to be like 50 degrees when I got home in order not to be roasting myself alive by the time dinner is ready

>>12149767
How is it different than a normal small (toaster) oven in that regard?

>>12149766
What do you mean by cuck? My oven is going to watch its wife get gang banged for its own sexual gratification?

Can you try not speaking in 4chan for a minute?

>>12149767
Yeah but what's the pros over a toaster oven?

I mean besides for size my toaster oven heats up quick and cools quick.

It does make the house hot, but if I air it out after I'm done cooking, then turn the AC on, I'm usually good.

>>12149773
Not in any way whatsoever. Why would it be different?

>>12149784
>Not in any way whatsoever. Why would it be different?
I wouldn't expect it to be different. The earlier anon said:
> they don't heat up your house as much as a standard one
so the question is, what's the "standard one"? A standard full-size oven, or a standard toaster oven?

>>12149782
Internal sensors to determine heating and duration. Automatic temperature phases based on food type, mass, and count. Integrated temperature probe.

>>12149800
A full size oven. I don’t have a toaster oven. If I’m looking at a Breville or something in that price range, it seems worth considering the competition

>>12149803
That... almost sounds like they finally upgraded the microwave.

>>12149813
I wouldn’t know, I don’t have a microwave. They are disgusting and only useful for shit food

>>12149782
How the fuck tiny is your apartment? My last apartment was 890 sq/ft and I thought I was living in a box. Yet it still wasn't enough to lose my air on a hot summer day on the top floor apartment with the stove running.

>>12149776
>What do you mean by cuck?
It's performance isn't as good as traditional models. It's less powerful. Its high-tech controls are less reliable. It's broiler heats unevenly. It lacks a rotisserie. It will not accommodate a 12" pizza. The convection fan is weak.

This is a great example of one of those appliances which sucks on a fundamental level, but is marketed because it has some kind of dubious "high tech feature".

Want a small oven? They're great. Get a Panasonic FlashXpress or a Breville Smart Oven.

>>12149820
Small cabin size.

I don't know the exact feet. I just know I turn the fan on, on one side next to the window, blow the hot but slightly less hot air through, blow the scorching kitchen hot air out, shut door and window and crank AC up.

>>12149803
I have zero faith that any of that actually works any better than simple attention.

So I repeat my question:
what are it's pros over a normal toaster oven?

>>12149677

Great! I use an app as well. It's called my hand, use it to turn the fucking dial for one second.

>>12149821
It sounds like most of those things are just speculation on your part. As to the size, I already have a full size oven. I don’t make pizza at home and I have no intention of doing so because it doesn’t give me any sense of accomplishment seeing as how I’ve done it, it’s not actually exciting, and I have some of the best pizza in the world within easy reach.

I’m aware of the two ovens you mentioned and other than your weird preoccupation with cuckold porn do you have any personal experiences on this topic?

>>12149834
I’m not selling this thing, I’m asking you to sell it to me. Armchair speculation is something anyone can do. What if it catches fire? What if it hacks my dick pics? What if it forces me to engage in some sex pervert genre porn that /pol/ is obsessed with?

>>12149847
>It sounds like most of those things are just speculation on your part.
No, I work in a hotel. We have various small ovens we use to prepare the foods for the "continental breakfast" each morning. I've used many of them. I wouldn't have commented if I didn't.

I really hope AvE gets his hand on one of these.

>>12149859
Yeah, you don’t need anything other than a thermocouple to heat up yesterday’s bread

>>12149875
At least a real thermocouple gives a fast reading unlike this piece of shit. It takes like 30 seconds before its internal "temp probe" is stable.

>>12149888
Can’t measure the internal temperature of a hunk of meat with a thermocouple

>>12149894
Sure you can. How do you think a thermapen works?

>>12149901
Sorry, I’m referring to the thing that breaks the circuit when the ambient air temperature heats it up causing it to change its shape. Like in a generic old school toaster oven

Just another excuse do learn even less shit.

>>12149914
that's a thermostat. not the same thing as a thermocouple.

anyway, I agree that thermometers are great for cooking. It's just that you'd be pants-on-head retarded to overpay for a toaster oven with a shitty one built in, when you could have a standalone one instead. That way it's not only a better thermometer, but you can use it for other things beyond your meme oven.

>>12149776
Isn't it so off-putting? It's like people who say woke and sheeple. Why didn't you tell me your opinion was worthless from the start

>>12149931
>>I don't like board culture but I'm here anyway
why?

>>12148188
Is it required to use your phone for these? Can't just disable the app features and use it manually? It has a chic design.

>>12149950
Yes, the phone is optional to hook the twitter addicted vermin, there’s a manual touchpad on the front that serves as an MFD and so on

>>12149914

bimetal

>>12149927
A regular probe doesn’t roust me from my shitposting haze to tell me to jack up the temperature to max as part of the final phase of cooking. I would need to hover around the kitchen with my ipad which is hard to type on when I’m deep in a shitposting frenzy

>>12148188
just get one of pic related if u have the money to drop on the June
>Breville smart oven (they make different models depending on needs)

>>12149978
why wouldn't you hover around the kitchen with...get this...no internet devices of any kind?
cook now. internet later.

And that said, most remote probes have a simple alarm function. even a cheapass thing like pic related (mine is about 10 years old) has it. Then you can use it for any cooking application, not just the memeoven(tm).

>>12149998
Yep, this.
If the Breville is too expensive, get Panasonic FlashXpress.

>>12150002
Because I might have a funny zinger for something OP says and don't want to miss my chance to be first post.

>>12149998
It was at the top of my list before I saw the June
>>12150002
I already have one, but it doesn’t hook up to any ovens
>>12150008
The cost is similar enough that I’m focused on features

>>12150016
who gives a shit though? that's fundamentally unimportant. Good food is not.

Besides, a separate thermometer still lets you shitpost if you want to, without cucking your oven to get that feature.

>>12150026
>but it doesn’t hook up to any ovens
You don't need it to.
Even if the oven shuts off, YOU still need to be there to take the food out of the oven. Why does it matter if your standalone alarm warns you, or if the oven does?

>The cost is similar enough that I’m focused on features
Why would you give up a lot of performance in exchange for some very dubious "features" that aren't really much of a feature at all?

>>12150073
What performance am I giving up vs. Breville though? Wattage is nearly identical.

>>12148188
>App controlled
Why would you want that? Unless you want to start to cook something before you get home from work what's the point? All that tells me is it's just going to be a bot net node.

12150039
You don't deserve (you)s. You don't work for them. That's why you've had so few in life. Your deathbed will be a sad and pathetic recollection of a (you)-free existence.

>>12150103
You can disable it dumbass

>>12150002
How the hell am I supposed to sing along to my Alan Jackson stream without an internet connection?

>>12150093
The Breville has a much better convection fan and the broiling function is much more even. It will also go to higher temps.

>>12150273
what's the point if you disable it? Isn't it then just an overpriced yet harder to use but not as good toaster oven?

Also, as the Breville does not contain a bunch of added features like cameras and fancy sensors it has far fewer potential points of failure.

>>12150299
>>the only way to play music is to stream it
really bro?

>>12150273
>Dumbass
>Me
That would mean someone paid twice the price for a convection oven. Like I said, unless you have some reason to start it to cook something on your way home from work it's fucking stupid. It's like giving washing machines computer chips and giving them useless functions nobody needs; I'll stick to my mechanical nob one thank you.

>>12150305
I haven't bought a CD since Garth Brooks live in 2003.

Why the fuck does everything need to be connected with the phone? Jesus fuck this is a fucking security nightmare.

>>12149817

Popcorn and melting butter. That's the only thing they are good for. Maybe reheating certain breadstuff. Otherwise I fucking hate the microwave.

>>12150299

You could instead go YEWWWHAAAW and shoot in the air for a while

>>12150500
Maybe out on my parents farm, I'm in city and my house sits right over the flight path for helicopters heading the the med center. Wouldn't be civilized to shoot down a wirly bird trying to save another retard who wrecked his motorcycle.

>>12150341
Not my fault you're dumb.

>>12150370
It's a great way to sell products to zoomies, plus you get to harvest all their data.

>>12150524
>get to harvest all their data
kek

>>12150554
Well sure, that phone app probably needs access to all sorts of things, and it's not like most people bother to read user agreements anyway.

>>12149677
>giving the Chinese control of a heating element in your home

Bad idea.

>>12150370

While in theory that is of course absolutely correct I am not sure if at a toaster oven that is in this case SUCH a big risk, provided the thing really only has like thermo sensor and if cameras such that really ONLY can see the inside of the oven- and not for example a microphone hidden somewhere or so.
Sems like the most data you could harvest from that would be what kind of food the user cooked.

>>12150598
What about what its app has access to on your phone?

>>Sems like the most data you could harvest from that would be what kind of food the user cooked.
Think better. Even if we ignore the phone app entirely, it would also know:
-when you eat
-how often you eat
-how much you eat

and it likely can learn a lot more than that, especially if its inventors aren't morons. The camera can probably determine the light in the room the oven is located in, so it may know your schedule. It knows the temperature you keep your home (by checking its temp sensor when the oven has been off for hours). I wouldn't be surprised if it can use this information to calculate your approximate location based on daylight hours. All that may not sound like much but I bet it can correlate quite a lot of things off of that. there's no doubt in my mind it will nearly instantly figure out your gender, marital status, size of your household, and so on.

this thing has a microphone too, right?

>>12150598
I'm viewing it less from the angle of data security and more from the fact that you could just remotely turn on the device for an extended period of time by someone else and could possibly risk an electrical fire. But in the angle of data security I would have no knowledge of how much information if any would end up being stored in the oven itself from accessing my phone.

>>12150628
maybe op wants to be part of the botnet. For me, I just want something that cooks my food when I turn it on

>>12149998

These rule, we were gifted a bunch of breville stuff at the last place i worked cause we were dope (the oven, their food processor, and an immersion blender).

All top notch shit that we used and abused constantly

>>12149938
>muh board culture
kys retard

>>12151039
cancerous redditors like you are what killed this site

>>12151039
You are LITERALLY using board culture right now

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/june-oven/
Googled a review and saw this
This oven looks like shit

My Breville oven's convection fan died in less than 1 year of use. It's a good oven otherwise but I won't be buying one again.

>>12150273
>You can disable it dumbass
You mean you can make it tell you it's disabled, but it will still connect to any wifi it has the password for and phone home without telling you.

>>12151228
damn man hit up the warranty