/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Exactly. Plants are living, breathing creatures just like us.

>>12147014
Good thread rabbi

Stop eating

HitleR was vegan, just saying

Watching him eat that jar of rotten meat makes me gag

>>12147044
>>12147064
>((((Vegan trolls))))

(((You're))))) fast goys.

I haven't eaten a single piece of meat since december.

I have no desire to become vegan, and I am not doing this for health or moral reasons.

I strongly believe that God spoke to me and asked me to stop eating flesh for a while, and I am simply going along with it.

>>12147361
which god

>>12147361
I think most people probably should go vegetarian for a while, especially with how disconnected people are from food production today. People mindlessly eat meat every day, with no respect for the fact that an animal had to be killed for it. I always hate seeing people throw away meat for no reason.

But, I went vegetarian for a couple years until my body was telling me I needed to eat some meat after I became more physically active, and now I know what it feels like to eat it because my body needs it and not just because it tastes good. I only eat it about once per week now, and if I have it more often than that I actually get sick of it. And I'm okay with eating meat, but I still hope stuff like lab-grown meats gets into stores soon because it still kind of sucks that an animal has to die for it, and if we can have meat without killing for it I don't see the downside to that.

>>12147491
Not him but that would have been Satan. Those who fall for Veganism are "under the influence of demons" per 1 Timothy 4.

>>12148010
Contradicted by Romans 14:3

I'm not forbidding anyone from eating meat if they wish to. I'm saying that *I* am not going to do it until I get the OK from God.

>>12148024
good here, go ahead bro

>>12148024
Vegans are Godless athiests at Best, outright Satanists in the worst cases. They torture their human bodies which are a gift from God, making their earthly existence an approximation of Hell, on this Earth. (If you are obese or have some other reason to fast, Veganism could be good "short term")

>>12147532
>Bla blah blah blah if you don't want to go vegan let's at last pretend meat is bad and get you to cut way back as a first step to going vegan.

This is called "the influence of demons" fall under it at your own risk.

The average person's diet is like 80%+ "plant-based" already so it really boggles my mind that people fall fall for the veganism meme. As if the answer to your problems is to cut out the tiny amount of animal products you are eating.

>>12148056
I never said go vegan. I didn't even go vegan, just vegetarian.

You're a bit strange if you think how people treat the consumption of meat is "angelic" though, with them not caring about the animals having to be killed, just turning away and letting other people do all the dirty work, so they never gain the proper respect for it, and then gorging themselves on it and taking more than they really need.

>>12147361
You say
>I have no desire to become vegan, and I am not doing this for health or moral reasons.
like
>I strongly believe that God spoke to me and asked me to stop eating flesh for a while, and I am simply going along with it.
is somehow less retarded

I'm convinced recent sv*rige posters are vegans themselves, because these threads always get rapidly filled with shilling for the government guidelines.

>>12148072
I understand how you feel, because I used to think the same way for 30 years.
All I can say is that if you start responding to what God asks you to do, he will start to speak directly to you, and to reveal you things.

I don't expect you to believe me.

His nervous laughter is the best. Serial kiĺer in the making if he hasn't already. If you don't know he approves of killing humans and canibalism.

>>12148066
Nice strawman argument, that is about all vegans have. And I never promote gorging or eating more than you have to (though vegans never complained when their Vegan bodybuilders do it)

As far as killing animals, vegans are world champs.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>12147064
Vegetarian.

>>12148176
Very powerful and moving testimony.
Earthling Ed spoke to me personally and told me to eat raw beef and lamb, because it works for him too.

I asked him "what about that vegan stuff?"

He said "How do you think I afford the best meats?"

>>12148065
You say that but I once spend a weekend at a friends friends place and they managed to have several meals without plant based food. They made a 'pizza' with a 'dough' of ground beef and topped it with bacon, salami and cheese.

>>12147014
i bet this guy smells worse then ketofags but he is a good lolcow

>>12147361
>God spoke to me
I applaud your forthrightness. most vegans aren't quite so eager to admit their mental illness.

>>12148235
vegan. there wasn't really a category distinction between vegan and vegetarian diets back then, but his diet was what we would now describe as vegan.

>I have been feeling much better after I stopped eating [FOODGROUP]
ok

>>12148226
>His nervous laughter is the best.
He eats too much high meat lol

>>12147361
I'm starting to think that schizophrenia is unironically based

>>12150690
I'm not vegan. I'm perfectly happy eating milk / cheese / honey / eggs.

I just cannot eat the flesh of the dead.

Can somebody who’s not an agribusiness shill and/or AGW denier convince me that I can still enjoy fish/meat? This shit is starting to freak me out.

>>12150950
Leviticus chapter 11 gives a full list of all the animals that are acceptable for humans to eat, according to the LORD.

Isn't this the guy that believes in the spiritual power of "exposure"

Btw: "exposure" is the pagan practice of sitting out in the elements for very long periods of time.
Literally sitting out in the woods for days and staring directly at the sun.

>>12151037
Well I don't know about that practice, but after walking in the woods I feel calm and "grounded"

>>12150998
>leviticus
SHOO SHOO, KIKE

>>12151037
>nature is scarrrwwy!

>>12150950
In general, eat somewhat less meat, eat different fish, eat more and more different vegetables. When you have meat try to invest in quality and businesses with good practices, which will pay off in good taste and an ok world.

>>12147014
I'm an omnivore, I'll stop eating plants once his hairline returns to normal

>>12147014
Doesn't this fucking chode eat rotting meat thats months old that he keeps in jars strewn about his apartment?

>all these kuffar arguing about the ABROGATED bible

>>12147050
chuckled

>>12151778
wtf is this
context?

>>12150700
No. Hitler's favourite food was austrian egg dumplings and liver dumpling soup so he wasn't even a true vegetarian.

WHAT IS THE TRUTH

WHO IS JEWING WHO

IS BROCCOLI BAD OR NOT

WHAT ABOUT FIBRE

>>12148010
Satan is a meme
if you read the Bible verses that mention him, he only actually does like 3 things in the Bible and the rest is people trash talking him. He has his thumb up his ass for 99.9% of the Bible. Meanwhile God is raining sulfur on fags

>>12152753
Basically, they like to lump together family values and masculanity with hateful culture and unhealthy habits. This is why most nationalistic controlled oppositions shill for a carnivore diet. Broccoli is the healthiest food you can eat. Go vegan.

>>12153564
>Broccoli
Enjoy your toxins and goitrogens

>>12153572
Cruciferous vegetables goitrogens are destroyed by heat when cooked (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2419242).). They have some toxins like arsenic but in much lower quantity than in animal products who accumulate pesticides, heavy metals and antibiotics. Also the arsenic pollution mostly came from the chicken industry (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5332189/).).

>>12153564
Be sure to eat with horseradish or mustard if cooked.

>>12153572
Not a problem unless eating five cups of raw mustard greens for several consecutive days, or 15 of bok choi. Or if your iodine intake is zero. Half a teaspoon dulse flakes is all you need. Watch out for rocks.

>>12153591
Broccoli doesnt want to be eaten, its why it literally creates toxins as its chewed. You are malnourished.
Eat local grassfed meat, fish, and hunt.

>>12153572
>>12153591
>>12153592
I have been eating on average ~200-300 grams raw cabbage a day for 5 years and my thyroid function is normal

>>12153597
It acts like chemotherapy, but without the side effects. Doesn't touch normal cells. Enjoy your cancer.

>>12153606
That's not much. I eat a pound of cruciferous vegetables most days. They're yummy

so you be sayin'
*eats a sausage*
that we be
*stuffs mouth with bacon*
we been
*gets high blood pressure*
we actually wuz
*has acid reflux*
YOU actually were sayin'
*develops ass cancer*
that we wuz
*dies of heart attack*
carnivores 'n shieeet

>>12153621
we wuz persistence hunters, but most of the carnists I know can't run at all anymore. My entire family is fat. Three had knee injuries, and it's not genetic because one is adopted from another continent. I'm the only fit one.

>>12153621
All that happens because of plants, moron.
>>12153633
Only Africans did that, Europeans used their brains. Hunters are intelligent.
No shit domesticated modern men arent fit, especially not you. You're starving.
>>12153611
Why would i get cancer when i eat raw meat and you eat organic vegan crap grown with radioactive fertilizer?

>>12153606
Cows dont get goiters do they?

>>12153633
>carnists

They are prob omnivores and eat like 80% plant based food(carbohydrates, sweets, sodas, seed oil)

>>12153648
Definitely. you literally can't gain body fat with a meat only diet

>>12153644
Here's your (You)

>>12152182
he identified as a vegan you identitarian fascist.

>>12150922
>I just cannot eat the flesh of the dead.
most unthinking animals won't, their prey has to still be kicking and screaming for them to eat it. only humans have the intelligence to realize it takes a bit of time for meat to spoil, and the usefulness of cooking in delaying this. again, I applaud your honesty and self awareness of your cognitive failings.
do you also lick your balls and sniff people's buttholes? lots of animals enjoy that as well.

>>12152753
eat what feels natural to you. if you start feeling ill (even slightly) after eating, it's probably your body telling you that it can't handle the dosage. if you start suffering from under nourishment you should look up the symptoms and at least get some dietary supplements. usually overdosing on dietary supplements causes diarrhea and vomiting, so if it starts you should cut the dosage.

>>12147014
who's the fivehead?

The real problem with the vegan diet is twofold:

1)Animal product avoidance leads to malnutrition and wasting from head to toe

2) Grains are used to make up the caloric deficit. High carb is toxic.

I've included a picture of Augusta National Golf course because the Masters are on this week

>>12148010
DEUS VULT

ENTER 2020: ERA OF THE BLOOD EATERS

>>12152753
>He hasn't taken the Eintopfsonntag Pill yet

>>12147014

what are men who have such thin hair and go for a pony even thinking?

i dont get it

>>12155305
They're under the impression it looks manly

>>12152753
Fiber is bad unless you're a cow. Broccoli is OK as long as you eat it cooked, with cooked beef in the same meal.

The only thing we really Kno is that Veganism is pure retardation; a mental disorder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4

>>12147532
based retard

what's your mentally ill excuse for not eating high meat? do you want to remain depressed and autistic?

>>12155455
meme-spouting shitposter

>>12155494
based brainlette

>>12153821
The hell is wrong with you? Just admit he BTFO'd you really hard.

>>12155537
old adolph said he was a vegan, so he's a vegan. why are you so pissy that he occasionally ate meat? all vegans eat meat occasionally, its not a religion where you get excommunicated for the occasional bit of salmon.

>>12155477
I prefer safer forms of probiotic food

>>12155602
good goy

>>12155620
no u

>>12155594
Then he was pescatarian, not vegan. I'm just calling things by their right name, mate. Just because someone says that 1+1=3 doesn't make it true.

>>12155477
My nigga
>>12155602
Only high meat and kefir work

>>12155594
Correct. I'm vegan and I eat meat every day. Uncle Adolfo was no different.

>>12155639
Citation required

>>12155646
Look it up, only fermented foods do shit, your faggot pasteurized activia is meme

>>12147014
i have stopped eating plants 6 weeks ago and i feel fantastic.
beef has all the nutrients a human needs.
enough said. stop buying meat as well or prices go up for me.

>>12155477
Just throwing meat in a jar and waiting sounds pretty risky, although fermented foods are good for you and have been linked to improving mood. But it's usually done with salt and acidity to stop the growth of bad bacteria while allowing good bacteria to flourish, and some kind of starter material to innoculate it.

Some people have other reasons to be depressed though and just eating some fermented meat won't cure/fix everything.

>>12155658
You're supposed to give a source when making claims otherwise you just look like you don't know what you're talking about. Fermented vegetables and grains are good for you too.

>>12155633
no he was a vegan who occasionally ate meat, you fucking retard.

>>12155696
Only because their raw forms have been degraded. Obviously i mean things like sauerkraut. Only the bacteria is good, whereas with high meat everything is nutrious. Fermented grains (beer) are toxic

>>12155689
do you have magic salt and acid that knows how to kill the "bad" bacteria while leaving the "good" bacteria alive, how would that even work? have you ever made or eaten high meat? have you ever heard anyone gotten sick of it? any anecdotes?

>>12155709
Kill yourself.

>>12155716
You don't need "magic" salt. Regular table salt works just fine. the trick is to use the correct amount of it.

>>12155716
Like >>12155724 said it doesn't have to be "magic", it just has to be the right amount. That's why there are brine percentages for each type of vegetable you want to pickle. Seems like you don't really know how fermentation works.

>>12155724
>>12155743

makes no sense to me but ok. just that correct labcoat-approved magic amount that kills the baaad bacteria but leaves the good guys. nice.

have you ever made or eaten high meat? have you ever heard anyone gotten sick of it? any anecdotes?

>>12155750
Why would anyone want to follow your advice if you act like the principles behind fermentation are magic that don't make sense when it's well documented? I do like fermented sausages, but they're made closer to the methods I described and not just thrown into a jar.

>>12155750
fermentation is best thought of like gang warfare. The idea is to give your gang (the "good" bacteria") a head start so that they can get their colony established. Once that happens they protect their turf and prevent other bacteria from taking over. This usually happens because the "good" bacteria secrete lactic acid. They can survive the acid, but other bacteria cannot. It's a simplification, but it should get the general idea across.

I've never made high meat, I've never heard of anyone making high meat.

>>12155750
It doesn't make sense to you because you're a regard. That might have been from birth, or maybe it's because of all that rotten meat.

>>12155793
Retard*
Inb4 you come at me for an autocorrect error

>>12155772
fermentation itself isn't magic, that's not what we're talking about. most fermentation of foods through human history happened just digging a hole and putting food in there in a bag. the modern methods and mechanisms you're suggesting for eliminating the "bad" bacteria while managing to leave alone all the good bacteria still don't make sense to me = must be magic. i'm not trying to convince you, i was curious if you had any actual new info or personal experiences on high meat.

>>12155778
that's a nice logical explanation in the abstract but i'm not convinced it has anything to do with reality. my view is that all natural bacteria the fermentation creates is good. this is supported by a lot of anecdotal evidence plus we can make a strong guess that that's how we humans fermented foods for hundreds of thousands of years before any of these modern sanitary methods were even possible, so it must be good.

>>12155855
>my view is that all natural bacteria the fermentation creates is good.
Your view is contrary to the science that says otherwise and you have no proof of your claim if it's just "your view".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK50952/
>Products such as pickles, sauerkraut, cheeses, and fermented sausages owe many of their characteristics to the action of lactic acid bacteria. Salt favors the growth of these more salt-tolerant, beneficial organisms while inhibiting the growth of undesirable spoilage bacteria and fungi naturally present in these foods

>>12155855
>i'm not convinced it has anything to do with reality
Educate yourself then.

> my view is that all natural bacteria the fermentation creates is good.
Sure. The problem is what happens when OTHER bacteria happen to start growing too. Do you want to give yourself botulism, for example? Hell, the word "botulism" comes from the Latin word for sausage because fermented sausages were one of the main causes of the disease prior to modern sanitation in food prep.

Do more research. I suggest you read Katz, Charcuterie by Ruhlman, and the section on fermentation in Modernist Cuisine.

>>12155874
oh wow the scientific consensus condemns it!! i had no idea. mind = blown, thanks

based bugman.

>>12155886
>your scientific source is nothing compared to my anecdote
I hope you're trolling. If so, good job because you got me.

>>12155879
you have never made or tasted high meat and are telling me to do more research.

>>12155924
I'm telling you do do more research because you clearly have an incorrect view of how fermentation works.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not I have made or eaten high meat.

Read McGee while you're at it.

>>12155925
theory =/= practice. theories come and go. can you supply an example of someone getting sick from high meat?

>we can make a strong guess that that's how we humans fermented foods for hundreds of thousands of years before any of these modern sanitary methods were even possible, so it must be good.

can you dissect and explain this?