/ck/ - Food & Cooking

what a garbage thread, fuck off with this bullshit
t. lifelong vegetarian

>>12116601
then contribute you gay bitch

>>12116601

>>12116771
>eggs cannot be obtained cruelty-free

>>12116617
My go-to vegan breakfast is defo bacon with raw eggs yolks. I figure eat the whites too but I cook them.

>>12116777
Chicken lays egg voluntarily - no cruelty
The egg is aborted before its 3rd trimester - no cruelty

Checkmate.

>>12116585
>suck cock
>get paid $5
>get delicious animal protein with essential amino acids
>give rim job
>get $5
>get essential b vitamins

You carnists will never know what it is like to live a life this ethical and virtuous.

>>12116585
1. Get a pan and oil
2. Get various vegetables and fruit (not sweet fruit, vegetable-tier fruit)
3. Chop your plant materials into small pieces
4. Put into pan with various seasonings (salt, pepper, vinegar, lemon juice, chili powder, cayenne pepper, thyme, curry powder, rosemary, parsley, basil, garlic powder are my typical picks in different amounts and mixtures)
5. Apply enough oil to safely protect pan from being raped
6. Apply heat, lid that shit if you’d like to soften shit up and keep it moist, don’t use a lid if you’re a real man
7. Enjoy your stir fry

I know so many fucking people who act like this is the hardest thing or just doesn’t exist but stir frying vegetables is based and salad fags can gtfo, vegetable niggers are niggers

>>12116771

Omnivore here (fuck vegans calling us "carnists", that shit is a made up word and they fucking know it). Technically speaking, vegetarians are morally superior to vegans. Why? Because you can feed more people on a vegetarian diet that includes eggs and dairy. Simply put, not all land can be used for high efficiency farming at all times, but some land that can't be put towards high yield crops can be used for animal grazing, thus allowing more human-consumable calories to be produced from the Earth's available arable land.

If we don't use that land to produce eggs and dairy, we are selling ourselves short. Less humans can be fed. Since human life (not animal life) is the gold standard to which morality is judged, therefore vegans are the worst people, morally speaking.

Enjoy your ice cream and quiche.

>>12116861

>Apply enough oil to safely protect pan from being raped
But what if you're using rapeseed oil?

>>12116771
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>>12117061
I don't feel better.

https://www.aspicyperspective.com/perfect-baked-plantains/

Going to use these to make tacos with pico, guacamole and pickled onions.

>>12116969
>t. seething carnist<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F430;</div>

>>12117343
What's a "carnist?"

>>12117196
>3 proof by examples
>worshipping a sunstaring, antivaxx cult
>no nonfalliciois arguments
Do carnist meatcucks really?

>>12116585
oh lookie here a thread about produce. again :/

>>12117343

Shitty made up term by vegans to refer to omnivores.

>>12116585
The other night I braised some savoy cabbage, crimini mushrooms, a small yellow onion, and grape tomatoes in a little white wine, garlic, and sage.
Then when it was done I hit it with a bit of olive oil, some alder-smoked sea salt, and parmesan cheese.
Mix that shit together and have it with the protein of your choice. Is delicious.

this post brought to you by nut and seed gang.

American white vegans have to be the dumbest motherfuckers I've ever met:

> Killing a pig for food & sustenance
OMG!!!! THAT'S SO EVIL!!!! IT MAKES ME WANNA CRY!!!! WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

>Killing a 6 month old infant because you couldn't be bothered to wear a condom
IT'S MY BODY!!!! I DO WHAT I WANT!!! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!

Why the hell American white liberals so fucking retarded?

Why isn't chickpea/burmese tofu a bigger deal in the vegetarian world? It's so easy to make and you can add all the seasonings while making it instead of having to marinade for hours which never penetrates the tofu more than a few millimeters anyway. I think the texture is nicer, too.
I've only made it a few times but once I get the hang of how to season it it's going to be fucking bomb.

>>12119914
It depends, what race are the babies? It's pretty trendy for american liberals to promote abortion in black & poor communities.

>>12119914

Pigs: 1
Human Infants: 0

>>12119914

American liberals make baby jesus cry.

>>12119914
>>Killing a 6 month old infant because you couldn't be bothered to wear a condom
>IT'S MY BODY!!!! I DO WHAT I WANT!!! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!

How about we make the liberal vegans eat their abortions? That seems like a win-win based on vegan logic.

>>12119919
>It's pretty trendy for american liberals to promote abortion in black & poor communities
Considering blacks & poor people are rarely vegan, that seems to fit in with their agenda.

>>12119914

*vegan crickets*

not a veg but
>melt tons of butter in hot pan
>cut up a bunch of brussel sprouts and place them in pan face down
>reglaze with white wine after they start to brown up
>add chopped apples and whatever seasonings you like
>wa la

>>12120189
>reglaze

"Vegan logic dictates that eating abortions = environmentally friendly source of protein that prevents wasted babies being thrown away."

Sounds about right.

>>12116585
>I want to create a Wiki with vegetarian recipes
You're wayyyy too late to this fad.

no recipes? o...okay.

>>12116969
Omnivore
>guilty "conscience"
Puts diw vegand
>pussy
Rolls out quiche joke
>bigger pussy

Shouldnt you be outside getting some exercise and setting cats on fire?

>>12119886
Mmh... that looks nice.

>>12119915
>burmese tofu
Thanks so much Anon. I didn't even know this existed. Will definitely try.

Who /lazy/ here?
I made the switch to vegan about 8 years ago and spent the initial first years cooking elaborate shit, but laziness took over and I mostly just eat canned chickpeas with a bit of seasoning, cherry tomatoes dipped in humus, rice & beans, avocados sprinkled with seasoning (I'm even too lazy to serve them up, just slice them in the middle and use the skin as a bowl while scooping), and then the usual salads and fruit and mixes of nuts and seeds over the day. I also just drink the 'vegan blend' protein shake from myprotein (pea, brown rice & hemp). I rarely find the motivation to cook anymore. Maybe once per weekend or so. I just don't see the point in putting in the effort when I eat all alone anyway.

tfw I wish I had a cute gf to cook for
tfw my oneitis from uni was vegan too
tfw she never even talked to me
tfw I still think about her occasionally, 2 years after graduation

Also how do you guys get omega 3, DHA & EPA? I'm taking algae oil in the morning and before going to bed. Works well and I actually kinds like the taste.

>>12116585
anyone ever make vegetable stock? what veggies did you use? was it tasty and oily like a chicken or beef stock would be? you know like with the little oil droplets

>>12120891
Not 'make' as in fresh because I'm a bitch ass nigga, but in the country I live in they sell a very nice powdered form, 100% without any artificial bullshit and it's quite enjoyable. I'm mentally unstable too so I sometimes use the powder for seasoning. I think it's sort of a waste to make stock from veggies, because why not eat them straight and get all that fiber and shit?

>>12117196
Do you have more than 3 proof by examples?
For example, i could do get 4 pictures of fat, obese blacks and say that all meateaters are fat black obesity lards by your argument.
You're a literal retard and it's hilarious.

>>12119914
It's not just Americans, it's all libtards, they are proud and joyous to murder their own white babby, but they weep and sob if someone eats a chicken egg. (This is not an exaggeration whatsoever)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLSn2PqX6k

>>12120182
Please support "Vandalism ov Veganism" on Jewtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7akTEcaS4U

>>12121403
What's hilarious is watcing you vegans laugh. You are an international laughingstock, thanks for the free lols.

>>12121533
Very low IQ post. You should consider keeping these on Facebook.

>>12121594
Speaking of low IQ how retarded do you have to be to voluntarily join a starvation cult?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

>>12121643
How retard do you have to be to post the same shit in every thread involving the word vegan/vegetarian? I’ve been lurking and noticing your posts for a while, seek help my friend.

I've been eating a mostly vegetarian, mostly vegan diet for a few months. My staples are

>chili (beans and quorn fake meat) with cilantro lime rice
>Sunday roast with fake meatloaf, yorkshire puddings, roast potatoes and boiled veg
>Ma Pa Tofu (with quorn meatless grounds) and rice
>Hamburgers with vegetable patties (I use Dr Praeger's 28g Protein because they have the most protein per calorie).
>Whole Foods fake chicken nuggets
>Vega Sport protein powder

I aim for 2000 calories, 150g protein. I'm finding it easier to hit my macro goals than when I didn't limit meat or dairy, probably because the plant protein sources are more filling.

>>12121726
Sub-saharan Africans have a measurable IQ of 50, and they are still smarter than any vegan. You are only good for one thing and that's laughing at you. Keep the tears flowing.

>>12116585
Eat a bullet. No meat in that recipe.

>>12121841
>Go vegan
>For life
>Early heart attack

>>12121841
That's the idea.

>add onion to hot oil until translucent
>Add ginger and garlic for a few minutes
>Add thin carrot slices and bell pepper, cook until tender
>Add spices, stir until fragrant
>Add can of full fat coconut milk, brown sugar and vegatable broth
>Simmer for ten minutes
>Take off heat and season woth salt
>Serve over rice
Thats been my go to for vegetarian guests. Vegans are harder because I need to get vegan brown sugan

>>12121516
>>12121526
>>12121533
>>12121643
>>12121726
>How retard do you have to be to post the same shit in every thread involving the word vegan/vegetarian? I’ve been lurking and noticing your posts for a while, seek help my friend.
He either has some deep-rooted mental issues and too much free time and/or is in some way involved in animal product business, same as that retard Joe Rogan. I feel sorry for him and always tell him to lay off the internet and go outside more.

>>12123560
>vegan brown sugan
What's that about? Is it true they mix some bone parts into the sugar or some shit?

>>12123579
>>bone parts in sugar.

I shall explain. White sugar is refined (purified) by filtering it through charcoal. This charcoal often comes in the form of bone char, which is a recycled byproduct of the meat industry. Most brands of "brown sugar" are just white sugar with a little molasses added back in. This triggers some vegans.

You can, however, get unrefined brown sugar made by a different process that doesn't involve charcoal at all, therefore there's no chance that bone char might be involved.

The whole thing is really confusing: who would have thought that vegans would be opposed to recycling?

>>12123588
>The whole thing is really confusing: who would have thought that vegans would be opposed to recycling?
Because I dont feel the need to have blood on my hands for a little sugar in my curry you fucking monster

>>12123560
>Large pot, add diced celery carrots and onion to hot oil, cook until soft
>Add diced zucchini basil and garlic, cook 2 minutes
>Add canned tomatoes and beans as well as the liquid, vegetable stock, spinach/kale, salt and pepper
>Bring to a boil then reduce to simmer for 15 minutes
Serve over pasta for vegetarians and rice for vegans. If someone comes twice Ill make this for the second visit, its less "Wow!" than curry but its a comfortable meal with a lot of flavor

>>12123588
Beetsugar is only filtered with chalk.

>>12123594
1) why would buying white sugar put blood on your hands? You're not killing an animal, you're using a waste product instead of throwing it away.

2) why are you worried about sugar putting blood on your hands, yet you seemingly don't give a shit about other things that do? You don't seem to mind posting online, despite the horrible environmental damage caused by mining the minerals used to make computer chips, or the pollution caused by generating electricity to power it. Why does one trigger you but not the other?

>>12123588
>The whole thing is really confusing: who would have thought that vegans would be opposed to recycling?
They're opposed to using animal products. Recycling using animal products is still using animal products.

>>12123649
>>recycling is the same as using
maximum idiocy.

demand for a byproduct does not drive a market.

>>12123640
>You're not killing an animal, you're using a waste product instead of throwing it away.

It's not a waste product, it's simply a product. By buying something produced with products from animal agriculture you are reducing the minimum cost of meat needed to turn a profit, by reducing the cost of meat you are increasing the amount of it consumed.

I'm not a vegan, but I can apply some common sense knowledge of logic and capitalism.

>>12123625
>In a crockpot combine portabella mishrooms, carrots, potatos, vegatable stock, soy sauce and thyme and toss to coat and mix
>Set on low for 5 hours
>Whisk cornstarch into vegetable stock until smooth, add to crock pot and mix well
>Set on low for 1 more hour
>Serve alone, with egg noodles for vegetarian and rice for vegan
Made this a couple times, went over well. Id rather a chuck myself but its a very passable meal if you have multiple guests that cant/wont eat meat

>>12123664
>but I can apply some common sense
How about you stick with the common sense and you leave out the illogical mental gymnastics.

>>It's not a waste product, it's simply a product.
No. Stop going full retard.

>>12123654
It's not just about demand, it's the principle of not using animal products.

>>12123694
>, it's the principle of not using animal products.
That's even more illogical though, especially when the stated goal of vegans is to reduce harm. If you let a principle get in the way of reducing harm that's a bad thing.

The whole thing reeks of hipocrisy too. Apparently it's not OK to use sugar that was filtered using a meat-industry byproduct, but it is OK to poison the earth to shitpost on a Bhutanese Macrame forum?

>>12123684
>No. Stop going full retard.
You give them money for an animal product ... it's somehow irrelevant to their profit margins.

Never go full carnist.

>>12123733
>... it's somehow irrelevant to their profit margins.
Sure. That "somehow" you're looking for is the fact that bone char makes up a negligible portion of the meat industry's income.

How far do you want to take this? You might argue that paying your taxes isn't vegan because some tiny % of the money gets spent on government research involving animals, or gets spent on subsidies to the meat industry.

>>12123666
Guess Im satan for posting actual meals
>Large pot heat oil, onions until soft
>Add butter, bay leaves, mushrooms, garlic and thyme.
>Stir and cook until mushrooms are soft, remove from pot
>Melt butter and add rice, toss until coated and toasted
>Add a little white wine, stir until wine is absorbed
>1 cup of broth at a time add HOT vegetable broth and stir until absorbed fully. hot broth will help the rice absorb the liquid faster and make for a much better texture
>Once mix is creamy with a little bite add the mushroom mix back in along with some parmesean or asiago cheese
This is one I like as a side for a lot of dishes, its only coincidentally vegetarian if i replace the broth I use.

>>12123749
Are you browning the onions or just cooking them until translucent?

>>12123767
Translucent, I dont brown onions for anything meatless off the top of my head

>>12123588
Thanks for explaining. I didn't know this is a thing. Will definitely pay attention in the future.

>>12123640
>why would buying white sugar put blood on your hands? You're not killing an animal, you're using a waste product instead of throwing it away.
Not that guy but by buying a product which directly involves animal stuff, you're signaling to the producing company that you are complicit with the process. Veganism is about the principle of minimizing animal harm.

>>12123640
>you seemingly don't give a shit about other things that do?
Again, it's matter of minimizing harm. We live in a world where it is literally impossible to cause some form of harm or tribulation to someone or something by sheer existence. The key is to make efforts to minimize this in order to build a better world. And we sure af don't need to torture and kill innocent mammals who feel love, affection, pain and suffering just the same as you do. Humans hunted for thousands of years because it was necessary to survive in harsh conditions. How are we living in harsh conditions now, when you literally just go down the street and can pick anything you want to eat from around the world? In that sense, veganism is also a logical step of evolution. Renewable energies, resourceful economic choices and more intelligent distribution of resources with better ethics for all lifeforms is the future. Murdering animals and destroying the planet for our pleasure is not.

>>12123989
>t by buying a product which directly involves animal stuff
Buying a steak directly involves animal stuff.
Buying sugar does not. that's the point.
it's not directly involved, it's only tangentially involved. We need activated charcoal to purify sugar. Would you rather we get that charcoal by cutting down more trees? Or should we use a byproduct that we already have so that we don't have to burn trees for it?

>Again, it's matter of minimizing harm.
Shipotsing doesn't minimize harm. It outright causes harm for no benefit in return. It's even worse than eating meat because at least meat gives you nutrition.

>>The key is to make efforts to minimize this in order to build a better world.
How does shitposting here further that goal?

>> And we sure af don't need to torture and kill innocent mammals
Agreed.

>who feel love, affection, pain and suffering just the same as you do
Nonsense.

> How are we living in harsh conditions now, when you literally just go down the street and can pick anything you want to eat from around the world?
You ever stop to think just how "harsh" that supermarket is? It's inventory comes from a huge fleet of pic related. It poisons countless animals to keep them from eating the foods stored within. The building itself killed animals when it was built, and it continues to do so with the electricity that it runs on.

> and more intelligent distribution of resources with better ethics for all lifeforms is the future
Agreed.
And the most intelligent method of feeding ourselves is small-scale local farms that raise crops and animals in the correct ratio. Mostly crops, few animals. Yes, this means we kill some animals to eat them. The benefit, however, is huge: we generate far less harm because we are not dependent on synthetic fertilizers, and we don't have to burn fuel shipping things as far.

Wanting to reduce harm is great. Becoming so focused on a misguided principle that you end up causing more harm is bass-ackwards.

>>12121766
>>12123560
>>12123625
>>12123666
>>12123749
sounds good, anons.

>>12124100
The trick is to celebrate the flavor of your plant diet instead of mourning the taste of meat. Using tofu or seitan or any of the meat substitutes is going to be a cheap imitation of something that exists in a better form, there should instead be a focus on a flavor and texture that meat would not directly improve.
>Skillet hot
>oil in
>onion in
>onions translucent then garlic, in
>garlics fragrant then diced tomatoes, in
>halved spaghetti squash, baked and tender
>use a fork to scrape strands of squash into a pile, add to a bowl
>toss with the onion mixture, feta, olives and chopped basil
Its quite good but I never find other people who both like squash and prefer this to a beef bolognese inside the squash

>>12124189
eh, I think you can use them without imitating meat. fried tofu doesn't taste like meat, but I still like it.

I'd try it. Never had spaghetti squash, but your recipe sounds good.

>>12124189
Agreed. Cooking is always best when you work with the natural qualities of the ingredient rather than trying to turn them into something which they are not.

I guess this counts:

Mushroom Stroganoff
3 T. Butter
1 Large Onion, Chopped
¾ lb. Mushrooms, Sliced
1 ½ C. Vegetable Broth
½ – 1 C. Sour Cream (to taste)
¼ t. Garlic Powder
Soy Sauce to Taste
Fresh Parsley
8 oz. Egg Noodles
Cornstarch

Melt the butter in a large heavy skillet over medium. Add the sliced mushrooms and cook, stirring frequently. When the mushrooms begin to get tender, add in the onions. When the veggies are cooked to your tastes, stir in the broth, scraping off the bottom of the pan for any tasty browned bits. Bring the broth to a boil and cook until it has reduced by about 1/3. Stir a few spoonfuls of cornstarch with some cold water until smooth, then stir in to thicken the sauce. Meanwhile, start boiling water for the noodles. Turn the burner to low. Remove the pan from the heat and stir the sour cream into the sauce. Season with garlic powder, salt, pepper, and soy sauce. Serve over the cooked egg noodles. Top with fresh parsley, if available.

>>12124189
>feta
still half-assing it you faggot loser

>>12124189
>Dont start with onions in oil
>Puree onion, bell pepper, garlic and celery, set aside
>heavy bottomed pot (I use a dutch oven)
>Make a roux of vegetable oil and flour, stirring constantly until its a chocolate brown (this may take as long as 20 minutes depending on your stirring technique)
>add puree to the roux along with okra, a lot of okra.
>As the mix thickens and gets sticky add cayenne, salt, pepper and thyme
>Add vegetable broth to cover the okra plus a little extra and set to simmer until the thickness of gravy
>Serve over rice
I cant think of any other vegetarian things Ive made.

>>12124439
pasta or chili is a pretty common one.

Spinach Cheese Stuffed Shells
12-16 Jumbo Pasta Shells
15 oz. Cottage Cheese
4 C. Packed Fresh Spinach Leaves or 1 (10 oz) Package Frozen Chopped Spinach, Thawed & Drained
1 C. Grated Parmesan Cheese
25 oz Jar Marinara Sauce
2 C. Shredded Mozzarella (About half a regular size bag)
1 t. Italian Seasoning
½ t. Salt
¼ t. Pepper
Pinch Red Pepper Flakes

Preheat oven to 350. Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil. Pour in the shells and cook according to package directions, just until al dente. Drain the cooked pasta and let cool in the strainer until warm to the touch. Meanwhile, if using frozen spinach, squeeze out any excess water. If using fresh, heat a skillet over medium low with a pat of butter. Add the roughly chopped spinach and season with salt and pepper. Cook, stirring frequently until greatly reduced but still bright green. In a medium bowl, mix the cottage cheese, half of the parmesan, half of the mozzarella cheese, and the seasonings. Pour half of the sauce in the bottom of a 9x13 pan. Tilt pan to cover the bottom evenly with sauce. Spoon the cheese filling into the cooled shells, placing them in the baking dish. Spoon remaining marinara over the shells. Sprinkle the remaining cheese over the shells. Cover pan with aluminum and bake for 25 minutes. Remove the foil and bake for another 5, until the cheese is melted and gooey. Makes one 9x13 pan of shells.

Notes:
You can freeze unbaked shells for up to 2 months. Cover tightly. You can thaw them out the night before in the fridge, or put them straight in the oven frozen and bake for 1 hour.

>>12124092
Cringe and meat-pilled.
Your arguments are irrational shit and clearly from the perspective of someone who feels that the life of animals is less important than his own pleasure.

Anyway, I'm not here to stir a huge political discussion. We disagree on the essence of our decisions, but we agree on many aspects so that's alright for now.

Guys, is there some vegan type of 'protein bar' (for lack of better term) without soy that I can make at the weekend, then store in the fridge and consume during the week. I'm thinking larger batches.

I looked at the 'Burmese tofu' made from chickpeas, but my initial thought was 'why no just eat chickpeas then?' Basically I want an easy recipe to make some kind of astronaut food that give me a shit ton of protein and tastes alright. I'm tired of eating canned beans every day and I don't really have the time and ambition to cook during weekdays.

>>12124624
It's hard to find any wholefood vegetable source of protein as dense as soy. Chickpea flour only has half the protein as soy flour.

Just go the chemical route and use pea+rice protein powder mix and find some protein bar recipe.

>create thread to discuss interesting vegetarian recipes
>mostly spergs arguing about vegetarianism and veganism

god dammit

>>12125872
every time, brother.

>>12126308
Thankfully there were enough people that actually posted good recipes though.

>>12124811
>powder
Yeah I've been doing that on training days. I drink shakes with a mix of rice/pea/hemp protein and normally I get sufficient amounts from eating chickpeas and other beans. My question was more in regards to change of taste, but if I'm being honest with myself, the real problem is my laziness. I just can't find the ambition to cook and always end up eating them out of the can. Just sprinkle various shit over it like curry mix with olive oil, soy sauce, or some herbs.

God I wish I wasn't such a lazy prick or had a gf that would cook for me...

>>12126675
I make veggie burgers at work, using Dr Praeger's 28g protein patties. If you have access to some kind of grill it's a very easy source of protein.

anyone else got recipes to share?

been meaning to try this one, never cooked with wine though:
French Lentil Soup
3 T. Oil
1 Large Onion, Diced
2 Stalks Celery, Chopped
6 Cloves Garlic, Smashed
2 Bay Leaves
1 T. Tomato Paste
1 ½ C. Red Wine
16 oz. Dried Lentils, Sorted and Rinsed
6 C. Vegetable Broth
2 T. Dried Thyme or Oregano
1 T. Dijon Mustard
Pepper to Taste
Fresh Spinach (optional)

Heat a a large soup pot over high heat. Add the oil, onions, and celery. Saute until they start to take on color. Add bay leaves and garlic. After two minutes (or if the garlic starts to burn)work in the tomato paste and wine. Reduce by ¾. Add the lentils and enough broth to cover with a couple inches of broth. Simmer uncovered, occasionally stirring and adding enough broth to cover. Cook for 40 minutes, or until the lentils are tender. This makes a lot of soup, and freezes well.

Anyone noticed they stunk less after being vegan?