/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Don't buy this beer. It's impossibly to put into words how disappointing it was.

Kek

I thought a wasabi beer would be good with my poke bowl. I still think it would, but I don’t know because this didnt taste like wasabi.

Yeah it's kinda funky to say the least. Their normal IPA is not bad at all though

>>12040547
Longboard used to be a pretty decent session lager like 15 years ago. They've done a ton of fruit adjunct stuff over the years that was never really very good.

I like their golden ale

Learn to alcoholic properly folks

>buy this because someone at work recommended me it
>it taste like gasoline

never again.

>>12040608
Grabbing a 'stone

>>12040610
>Old Gasputin

Anyone to recommend me a good lager available in store in Europe?
Gonna drive to the beer market later. Thanks

>>12040610
Went to treehouse last month and am currently working my way through a giant case of these motherfuckers. Treehouse became a bit of a meme but Julius really lives up to the high expectations. 9/10

>>12040123
LAOGANMA

I've three beers brewing at the minute and other planned for tomorrow. 2 are mixed culture, 50% pilsner, 25% spelt, 25% rye, no hops, lacto delbrueckii and acidophilus for two days at 40C then pitched gjernes kviek, few days later allowed to cool to 23C and pitched brett C. Been a month, one got kiwi, coconut, raspberry, hibiscus. Other figs, chokeberries, orange flesh, juice, peel and orange blossom. Other beer is an all brett NEIPA. Tomorrow I'm brewing an imperial stout for barrel ageing, sour cherries, cocoa nibs. On keg I've a cherry sour, a blueberry sour, a citra rye kviek, a simcoe centennial session pale, a gin botanical saison, a raw/spontaneous ale. Some other stuff, but I can't remember what is in those kegs, they are mostly done and will get dumped when I need to package newer beers.

>>12040123
This stuff is on sale near me so it's been my go to lately

Recommend me some nice belgian-esque beers like Unibroue please

>>12040375
clean your glass you fucking mong

>>12041137
Belgian-esque or straight up belgian?

If we're talking real-deal, La Chouffe, Saison DuPont, Trappistes Rochefort, Westmalle, St. Feuillien, St Bernardus.

For belgian-esque, Brewery Ommegang out of NY does some pretty good bottle-conditioned stuff, like three philosophers and hennepin saison. So does the Bruery, though their stuff tends to run a bit more expensive. Boulevard Brewery from kansas city has a few good belgian-ish ones like sixth glass and bourbon barrel quad. Trying to think of more, but that's a good start.

>>12041158
Nice. Yeah I'm looking for more belgian-esque since I've had most of the straight up belgian stuff like you mentioned. Boulevard is great, I'll look into the others

The patrician's selection

It's better than most, and not brewed by Stone

>>12040123
guys stop drinking meme beers. everyone is jumping on the bandwagon while theres money to be made. drink beer from Bend, OR. or De Garde brewing, Crux, Block 15, Boneyard, Fort George, pfriem, Barley Brown's, Firestone Walker etc. stop drinking liquid diabetes aka new england/hazy/milkshake IPAs, chocolate milk stouts etc. im sick of people coming into my work where we make pale beers and asking if we do any sours. just go to a sours place or a ciders place and fuck off already. the two destroy each other at the fermentation level

>>12041671
>pfriem
Do these guys even distribute? I keep hearing about them but have never seen them in stores or on tap.
t. norcal

>>12040123
What we really need is something like DUDE WEED LMAO to spam these threads with to get you retards to fuck off

>>12041671
Hazy IPA is pretty objectively better than West Coast IPA

Best beer coming through, drinking it right now

>>12042119
is it just me or do wheat beers taste metallic

>>12042160
I think its just you, but i always get mine from bottles so maybe a can does it. I always get a fruity, lawn clippings taste which i fucking love

>>12042171
must be something else with the taste that I erroneously think of as metallic

wonder why wheat bears don''t ever seem to be made by craft breweries

>>12042160
Nah, I usually taste something metallic in them too.
It doesn't have anything to do with the storage devices, as I get the taste from glass bottle ones as well.

>>12041671
I drink what I want, but the hazy ipa and dessert stout shit is getting retarded.

>>12042259
I'm in serbia and our scene hasn't yet fully caught on to these trends (also no american imports :()

I've had a local hazy ipa that was described by reviews as "hardly a neipa" and I've had a few sours, don't exactly know what the problem with these is, they don't seem inherently less good than other beer types and they add a nice novelty to drinking beer

Am I a hipster for genuinely enjoying sours?

>>12042184
Plenty of craft breweries make wheat beers

>>12040123
>tfw lived in Hanalei for a year and a half
I miss Kauai EVERY single god damn day. Ever been to Kalypso, anon? Best Loco Moco I ever had. the wings are good too.

>>12042351
I can get behind sours, but its one of those beers that will last me all night, I can't down them.

>>12042313
I like the hazy ipas, but when you've had one, you've had 95% of the market. they all kind of end up tasting the same. Would rather have a nice pale ale. Sours rule though. Just had a local rhubarb sour that was delicious

>>12042313
Breweries here are chronic trendchasers because of how competitive the market saturation forces them to be. So you see a lot of breweries trying to one-up each other with exotic flavors that their neighbors haven't put out.
>Oh, your stout tastes like chocolate and coffee? Well OUR stout tastes like a chocolate raspberry jelly doughnut!
>Oh, your IPA tastes like orange and guava? Well OUR IPA tastes like a pina colada creamsicle pop!

All in all it translates into adding a fuckton of sugar in your beer and awkward adjuncts that don't really work too well in most cases. The memes are old and now most people just appreciate a well-executed to style beer.

>>12042401
>there is no discernible difference between hazy ipas
Said the flyover who has never had a good one.

>>12042417
why don't you recommend some stand out hazies then?

>>12042422
Not that anon, but this is excellent if you're anywhere in NC.

>>12042119
I really like their dopplebock

>>12042184
>wonder why wheat bears don''t ever seem to be made by craft breweries
what?
A lot of excellent wheat beers are made by craft breweries in a variety of styles. Also a lot of modern hype IPAs use some wheat even though they don't market themselves as wheat beers specifically

>>12042417
I've tried plenty now. They all end up being extremely similar. Sorry brah. Some are good and stand out, but most of them are pretty one dimensional.

>>12042417
why are you obsessed with flyover? What does flyover possibly have to do with this subject?

>>12042605
I would say west coast IPA has this problem way worse than NEIPA

>>12042615
I dont really care for either desu. All I've been drinking lately is pale lagers and the occasional brown ale or IPA

>>12042422
You have to tell me where you live. NEIPA is super regional and most of the best examples don't even distribute. If you're in the northeast, take a trip to Other Half or Trillium. If you're out west, look for Great Notion, Alvarado Street, Monkish, or Pure. In VA/MD, look into Answer, the Veil, Burley Oak, or Aslin. Indiana has 450 North. Texas has Spindletap. Louisiana have Parish. Not all of these are equal, but they're pretty much the best examples of haze in their regions. Everything else is a step below and generally middling.

>>12042689
How could anyone consider themselves experts on NEIPA in so many regions? Hell its hard enough to stay on top of the best beer in a city you live in

>>12042692
Beer trading, festivals, and line shares. I get these by mail from people who want what I can access locally. Been doing it for several years now and tried the best from around the country.

Recommend me beer from Norcal

>>12042713
What does your group consider the best stuff in the upper midwest out of curiosity

>>12042716
Alvarado Street (Monterey)
Fieldwork (Berkeley)
Rare Barrel (Berkeley)
Russian River (Santa Rosa / Windsor)
Moonraker (Auburn)

>>12042725
In my circle of haze traders, the upper midwest is honestly a NEIPA desert. The only widely sought after haze cans from the midwest are 450 North, who do a Nuggets series that is very respectable. 450's more popular line is their Slushy / Slurpee series of heavily fruited berliners with a thick texture. Their haze is good, and the only NEIPA I can personally recommend from the region.

>>12040123
Tried this today. Pretty good. Basically an imperial Guinness stout. Tastes stronger, richer, and bolder than the extra stout.

>>12043047
>7.5%
>Imperial stout
Not gonna cut it in today's beer world. 10%+ or go home.

>>12042422
M-43 and Bells Hazy IPA. Frankly I had a Sam Adams one as well and it was pretty good.

>>12043076
I mean it's not a Russian imperial. I meant that it's basically a Guinness version since it's stronger and hoppier than the regular extra stout.

Saison time boys

>left
My homebrew - roughly 70% pilsner / 30% wheat, with a touch of corn and wheat flakes to give it a lot of body and dry finish. Came out to ~8.1% ABV. Dry hopped 4 days with amarillo. Used a blend of two yeasts, one for a french style saison, and one for a farmhouse ale. Fermented starting at 68F ramping up to 78F over 10 days. Kegged it on Wednesday of this week.

>right
funkwerks saison. A strong but obviously american version of the style, ~6.8% ABV. Highly fruity finish

Overall I'm very happy with how mine came out. I was not at all trying to emulate the funkwerks but I enjoy comparing my results to something I can buy. In a few weeks i'll be comparing against the saison dupont cuvee which I picked up today.

The funkwerks has a strong fruit flavor on the back end and is more highly carbonated whereas mine the hop flavor penetrates the yeast profile a bit too much and has a stronger body. Giving it another 2 weeks in the keg will mellow out the hops and should create a more balanced saison

>>12042726

Also
Faction
Dust Bowl
Altamont

Beer of champions

Not as good as the briney melon gose but still good

>>12042745
FYI, southern Indiana is not the upper midwest

I would say the best NEIPA I have had from the region are Old Nation is Michigan near Lansing, Hop Butcher in Chicago, Eagle Park in Milwaukee, and Brewing Projekt in Eau Claire near Minneapolis and of course Toppling Goliath in the middle of nowhere Iowa while not specifically very NEIPA focused makes some excellent ones

>>12043434
That's why I said Midwest when referring to 450 and didn't offer anything from the upper Midwest.

>>12043546
southern Indiana is gross

>>12043566
Never been there. If it's that bad I'm glad I can get their beer from people who live in the area and don't have to visit personally.

>>12043570
its basically just Northern kentucky

>>12041824

>>12043637
what?

Pretty good

>>12042372
>kalypso
Looked it up and it opened after I moved away, but I regularly ate at the 2-3 restaurants that were in that location before that. I can't think of any of the names, but the owner of the last one also owned Sushi Blues, which was on the second floor of Ching Young over Pizza Hanalei (which has probably closed). Just looking at Google maps I'm happy to see Hanalei Gourmet is still there (ate there probably once a week growing up), The Dolphin, Postcards (was never good but a friend's mom was the chef), Hanalei surf shops (both the old Hanalei School one (where I shopped for clothes as a kid) and the one in Ching Young Village (where I bought pogs after Iniki). Crazy that there's an L&L in Hanalei now.

>>12041278
kek i live a block away from there

>>12041133
Is it hoppy? I fucking hate it when breweries hop up laters.

>>12042119
Yea.either copper or iron. Might have something to do with the yeast strain

>>12040123
Just been drinking my go to poverty brew.
>>12040610
It's garbage from a bottle but try it on tap, it turns into an entirely different beer.

Really wish their distributor wasn't constantly out of fucking 12 packs because I hate paying $9 for a sixer

Lining up for the last of the Monkish anniversary can drops in about 3 hours.

For me? It's cheap vodka discreetly disguised in a powerade bottle.

>>12040123
I like only drink it because i dont like buying imports.. Big wave is pretty good.

>tfw went to hunahpu last week

fuck, i want to go to more beerfests now.

Why the fuck do people still buy heineken? Every time I have one I'm amazed at how shit it actually is.

>>12045031
idk how much heineken sells for in comparison to other beers in the area, but there's people who don't believe that it's worth it to buy more expensive better tasting beers

my roommate basically thinks it's a scam the same way someone buying beats headhphones would be not worth it, so he buys heineken or tuborg or some shit

>>12045031
Those green bottles are so very art deco. It's an aesthetic thing.

>>12045044
There's infinitely better beer you can buy for the same price though. In the Netherlands at least, I don't know where you live?

>>12043573
I used to live in Louisville. Northern Kentucky is awesome with plenty of great food, breweries and distilleries, but once you cross the Ohio into southern Indiana it's like you go into an ugly land of cultureless boredom

>>12045051
I don't live in the netherlands, there might be better beer for the price for sale but not in our closest supermarket, normies wouldn't go on a 30min bus ride for a superior beverage, that's considered autistic and dumb

>>12045066
like when I tell people I'm going for a 30min bus drive to go to a pub that has a selection of beers on tap that I like they treat me like I'm retarded for doing so

>>12045066
>there might be better beer for the price for sale but not in our closest supermarket
That sucks. Best beer in a crate I can get would either be Hertog Jan or Jupiler. There are better beers of course, but that's the stuff I get for a night of drinking with mates.

>>12043836
Nope which I was shocked by. Just a decent standard lager

Steel Reserve. It is all I drink cept for whiskey.

>>12042119
Prefer Franziskaner but both are great beers and the Paulaner glass is so beautiful

Just picked up a 4 pack of this

Just drank this, honestly one of the beers I've had ever.

Chocolate stout it's about 8%abv

>>12046445
It's aHomebrew

>>12045031
Doesnt Heineken skunk their beer on purpose.
Cant believe people drink that shit

>>12046933
well they knowing use green glass, so thats pretty dumb

>>12046386
only had Cuvée Delphine and Pannepot (2 different vintages) from De Struise, all were very good

>>12046288
How is it? It's all over the place near me along with another of their dipa

>>12047037
Its very good, and super fresh right now only packaged a couple weeks ago. This is the first time they have made it where I just randomly happened upon available 4 packs at the grocery store

>>12047060
I wanted to try it but I still have hopslam in my fridge. Just havent been feeling the hops lately, and I'd rather put it off than drink it while I dont really want to

>>12047072
I consider it much better than Hopslam

I love hoppy beers. What are the hoppiest beers you've tried?

>>12047084
I, too, love cock.

>>12047081
I'm sure it is. I bought hopslam for nostalgia purposes. That and double bubble from rush river were my first run ins with double ipas. Oh and southern tiers 2x ipa. Havent seen that in ages though

>>12047310
For sure, Hopslam was way ahead of its time, and is still solid. One of the first grocery store available DIPAs, and I remember thinking it was crazy they were charging like $!5 for a 6 pack not that long ago

>>12040123
this is what I currently have in stock that's not carapils and jupiler for football watching
what should I open, /beer/ ?

>>12040610
It's only good on nitro draught if you can find it.

>>12040123
i need a recommendation, my sister made fun of my choice of beer yesterday (shock top), I don't drink that often so I haven't tried many beers

>>12047831
She's right to make fun of you. But what does she drink? Ask her for recommendations. She knows your tastes better than we do.

>>12047839
i don't have tastes, i usually drink blue moon, but the store was out yesterday, so i got shock top

>>12047842
Namaste white by Dogfish Head seems right up your alley.

>>12047854
i'll look for it when i'm at the store tomorrow
thanks pal
first sip is always the best

>>12047831
Definitely don't drink shock top, its made by Budweiser for the sole purpose of tricking people into thinking it might be from a good independent brewery and steal shelf space and tap space from more legitimate brewers

>>12047857
What city? Good beer varies a lot from city to city.
Most of the country has Bells though and its Oberon season pretty soon which is a great jump to make from Blue Moon to respectability

>>12047858
i don't give a shit about "independent brewers", I just hate to think I might be missing out on something better
though maybe my sister is just being a hipster, with the way she worded her criticism

>>12047866
just outside of st. louis

>>12047084
Sixpoint Resin is a hop-bomb of a beer.

>>12047870
>just outside of st. louis
Boulevard Brewing Co. is based out of Kansas city and they put out some really delicious ales. Try them sometime.

favorite part of visiting Phoenix for work

>>12047870
Independent brewing goes hand in hand with quality beer styles, you can't really separate the two. The main reason to care is that the Belgium based, Brazilian run company that owns Budweiser is spending a lot of money to keep people that are not them and therefore probably better at making beer, off the shelves by creating countless variants of mediocre beer and trying to trick consumers into not realizing they are all Bud brands

>>12047881
fuck, forgot pic. Anyway, I don't usually like canned beer but this is worth it

>>12047870
>just outside of st. louis
Then you very likely have access to Bells. I haven't seen Oberon yet but it should be on shelves any week now, it is fairly similar to Blue Moon in style but considerably better

but from there you should just try a variety of styles, most grocery stores let you do a mixed six pack, just get 6 random local beers from a variety of styles and figure out what styles you like best

>>12047883
unless it's worse than something else I could easily buy, it doesn't matter to me

>>12047889
yeah, the store I normally shop at does that, I feel like it's kind of doing russian roulette, but I'll give it a go

>>12047893
>I feel like it's kind of doing russian roulette, but I'll give it a go
the great thing with starting out with beer, unlike wine or liquor is you can try a whole range of stuff pretty cheaply. Most base tier craft beer is going to be at most $2 per bottle in a mixed six pack which is a pretty small penalty if you hate it and have to dump it

>>12047885
Cans have actually exploded in popularity among most craft breweries. They're really a far superior packaging option to bottles, and we're just now breaking the stigma that makes people associating cans with shitty macro lagers.

>>12047883
Anon, it's really difficult to convince someone out of buying products when you preach to them. People are creatures of habit and they dig their heels in when you tell them not to buy something. Far better route is to introduce entry level but quality beers that they might enjoy. The rabbit hole is fun enough that it doesn't take much to get people into it.

>>12047332
I remember everyone bitching about the price not too long ago, but when you think about it, it's pretty standard for a good dipa from anywhere. Theres one brewery near me called Montgomery brewing that makes a classic dipa that I love from time to time. Piney, oily, nice malt to it with little bitterness. I sip on it and remember when there werent 5 million options at the liquor store. Good times. Those special sam Adams beers like stoneybrook and classic Belgians are what got me into craft beer. Do they even still make those sam Adams bombers? The bottles alone were cool

what are the best beers for someone not looking to become an alcoholic? there seems to be a huge bias in favor of high abv beers (i guess bc they tend to be "complex") but i cant drink a bunch of imperial stouts all the time. i wish i liked cheap beer but every adjunct lager ive tried has been too sweet (bc of the corn i think?). i do like dry stouts but i wish i knew of more besides murphy's and guinness.

>>12048142
Drinking less of higher alcohol beer seems less alcoholic than drinking more low ABV beer

>>12048142
Pale lagers rule. There are usually plenty of 5 - 6% stouts released every winter. Same with all types of pale ales. Pinner from Oskar blues is actually really damn good and only 4%

>>12048142
Just look for anything labeled as a session beer.

can i find any good cream ales in chicago? ive had a craving for one ever since i tried one in memphis from some local brewery.

>>12048142
Big mistake. Low ABV/session beers are brewed with the intention to be drunk for long periods of time, which is not much different from having a single half-pint of strong ale. Moderation is the only thing that'll keep you from addiction; DON'T forget this.

>>12048211
drive up to the border and get some spotted cow

>>12048211
Caste danger cream ale is pretty solid

Deutsche Bier

>>12046463
Is it just me or do home brewers tend to have a difficult time getting head?

>>12047084
I'm not even from SD but am definitely partial to their style, and my two favorite hop bombs (must be had very fresh) are Palate Wrecker (Green Flash) and Hop 15 (Port).

>>12047885
>>12047904
>Cans have actually exploded in popularity among most craft breweries
Dale's is pretty much singularly responsible for that (and that's a good thing).

cut back on drinking, smoke more. cut back on smoking, eat more. I should just go back to drinking, right?

>>12048627
rip taste buds

>>12048627
You should find a more constructive vice, like lifting or biking

>>12040123
Anyone pick this up? had it for the first time on Saturday it was incredible.

>>12049854
Never heard of it

>>12043047
Best Guinness variety imo. Guinness Antwerpen is worth trying too

>>12049854
No, what is this? I think I've heard of it here before but never had.

>>12049930
a damn good stout, heavy coffee and chocolate flavors, heavy and expensive though. I've heard its hard to find.

>>12049930
Phone ate my pic =/

This is some good shit

>>12043047
I wish I could get my hands on some of that, a 4 pack put me on the floor, I was not expecting the 7.5% to really make a difference.

>>12049854
Had some on Friday, one of the better stouts I've tried.

>>12049938
Also: this was a joke.

>>12040123
last time I was in Hanalei was right before the last hurricane and shit got rekt; even the pier washed away; been back since, OP? wondering if it’s going to be able to recover or if corporations are going to ruin it by “rebuilding” with Walmart dollars
/also, nice butterfly knife

>>12050234
When was the last hurricane? I was there during Iniki, but haven't been back since 2003.

>>12050245
2018; it was a combination of the historic rains in April (I was there in March) and Hurricane Lane in August; everything west of Hanalei Bay was destroyed, and much of Hanalei itself, including the school, was impacted

>>12040123

>>12040608
My negro, nothing like a couple of racks to keep you and your bros going for a day.

Thoughts? They were serving this at a Porsche club event few weeks ago

>>12050349
It's pretty standard euro lager. If you want to change up your semi skunk super sweet game reach for a peroni.

>>12050279
Shit. I guess I remember hearing something about Oahu getting hit but didn't realize how bad it was. Some of my best childhood friends' families live in Wainiha.

Any of yall tried this years KBS? I'm loving it personally, might grab a 4 pack in a couple days. Bit pricey, but there's no such thing as a cheap 12% stout.

>>12050366
Thanks. Ill take a look into it

>>12040375
>>12040123

Get the blue one, it's probably my favorite beer. Such easy drinking.

>>12049854
My favorite stout, none of the stores by me have gotten this year's shipment in but I still have 2 or 3 bottles from last year

>>12049854
Picked up some this past weekend. Pretty damn good, much more bourbon-heavy than last years.

>>12049854
I could get it on tap at a couple places around if I had anyone to go out with, but haven't seen it in any stores for some reason. 2018 BCB stout is still sitting around in every grocery store covered in dust.

>>12050471
can’t find it

went to ocean city last weekend and had pic rel. was really soft for an IPA and reminded me of blue moon but sadly the brewery doesnt seem quite too big yet and doesnt sell where i live which is only a few hours away

Recommend me some good flavorful beers. I found I like stout and saison the most but I don't think I have much of a taste for beer as I always want a good bunch of flavor while most things tend to be about the aftertaste factor.
Do I just have shit taste or do I simply need to find one I really enjoy? Never been into beer much overall since I tried one as a kid and it taste like absolute pisswater.

>>12051601
Dragons milk stout is good. Sweet, Carmel, and can taste the oak finish. Didn't taste like burnt coffee.

>>12051773
That shit is fucking delicious, probably my favorite beer. I have a case in the fridge right now, it's just too bad it only comes in 4 packs.

>>12051601
>Recommend me some good flavorful beers. I found I like stout
Get KBS, its just released this week or last so this is your chance to get it for the year, and its one of the most widely distributed top tier beers

>>12050234
>nice butterfly knife
It's actually a (really expensive) bottle opener, but doubles as a butterfly knife trainer.

do any us breweries sell their beer online like in the uk?

>strong beer good
>light beer bad

>>12052627
Most business is done online in the US. Nobody is ordering a 6 pack over Amazon if that's what you mean.

>>12052636
i know there are sites that sell beer but they usually charge big fees for selling other people's beer. in the uk you have stuff like cloudwater which sells straight from their own site.

>>12052635
No one's saying sessions are bad, but fuck shit like bud light.

>>12052768
>trying to reason with a /pol/eddit drone

>>12052768
go to beeradvocate and every top-rated beer is some boozy meme shit that no one would regularly drink

>>12040123
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOW THE FUCK DO I QUIT WEED
I PICKED UP DRINKING TO REPLACE IT WHILE I WITHDRAWAL BUT ALL GETTING DRUNK DOES IS MAKE ME WANT TO SMOKE

>>12052773
Your right.

name one (1) good lager

>>12052862
Just don't smoke weed for like a month and you won't feel the need anymore. Willpower, man. I smoked all day every day for 15 years and quit last fall. I sometimes miss it when I'm out in public and smell someone's secondhand dank, but there's no physiological urge or anything. Once the first ~30 days are over you're through with the hard part.

>>12052858
Yes and every top rated restaurant is expensive and over the top. Usually higher abv beer has more flavor behind it and more complexity on top of that.

Green beer bump (this one sucked, way too much coconut)

>ctrl+f
>no Orval

time to fix this

>>12052935
Celebrator doppelbock, summit kellerpils, various schwarzbiers. There are a ton of great lagers, mostly from Germany and eastern europe

bottling my home-brew IPA tomorrow, just calculated final ABV and we're looking around 4.5%. Not too bad