/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12032727
I'm gay btw and it matters.

Mfw went to my first vegan reataurant since starting at veganuary. I cringe when I think about how I used to antivegan spam these threads too. Veganism is truly superior once you know all of the facts.

Not exclusively but I sometimes eat vegan and vegetarian meals when I feel I need it. Last 4 dinners were completely vegan. Looking forward to Sunday roast tho.

>Tfw traditional fasting for Lent
I'm basically eating vegan for 6 days a week now, cause no meat, eggs or dairy. Good thing fish is still allowed though. Cooking vegan is such a pain, not having cheese, yogurt, butter or milk makes everything require workaround hacks. And almond milk doesn't taste anything like milk.

>>12032727
>Do you have an exclusively plant-based diet? Yep. Planning to make a big batch of potato leek soup soon.

>>12033590
>Cooking vegan is such a pain, not having cheese, yogurt, butter or milk
Common substitutes include making cashew cream, using canned coconut cream, and margarine if you have to. Not good for you but if you need the fat there you go.
https://www.hotforfoodblog.com/recipes/2014/08/19/cashew-sour-cream/
I do miss cheese far more than any meat.

>!!!

Caught your bait.

>>12033590
Just add a little bit of morphine in your plant-based cheese and it's done.

I call you people analoguetarians because neither you nor vegetarians actually eat vegetables but you both scarf down meat analogues like mad. Why is that? Why can't you just have some nice vegetables?

>>12033648
I don't begrudge them too much. Most people in Western Industrial nations are raised on a meat-centric diet that has animal products as a main part of every meal of every day. I obviously do hope most new vegans/vegetarians eventually transition away from these fake meat products (or start making seitan/tempeh), but if it helps wean them away and products like the Impossible Burger make reaching more people possible, then it's fine.

I do get upset when newbies try trash processed tofurkey and not only are shocked it doesn't taste like the meat it's pretending to be and that they are used to, but actually tastes awful in its own right. Then they just stop right there and quit.

here, a carrot recipe
https://youtu.be/C3V9Ox8EPUY

>>12033590
Bruh I recently converted to Orthodoxy and let me tell you you need to discover Cashew cream yesterday.

Fatteh, a Lebanese casserole dish made out of pita scraps, pine nuts, olives, etc is god-tier with a cashew cream sauce. Also try mushroom Swedish meatballs with cashew cream.

>>12033679
heres an omnivore documentary
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ny6aqdFy9SI

>>12033678
Seitan and tempeh as used by westerners are meat analogues. Why can't you just eat a vegetable?

>>12033678
I'm from a Western country. We have among the highest percentage of vegans and vegetarians in the world. No, not the western, but the whole world. It's mostly because we have a lot of naturally animal-product-free dishes to begin with so the "transition" from omnivore is a breeze.
I understand, though, that the majority of other Western nations don't have the climate, fertile soil or extreme plant diversity found in mine, so their cuisines don't have nearly as much in the way of animal-product-free dishes. Also, it's funny you mention seitan and tempeh because most vegans and vegetarians use them as meat analogues, anyway.

>>12033804
Because that requires learning something new.

People are lazy as fuck, they just want to make the smallest change possible. If they read a blog or an ad which tells them they can just replace the meat ingredient in their recipe with some new meatless version then people are all over that because they don't have to learn anything new.

>>12032727
Might have a steak later

been living the vegan lifestyle for 8 months. feel great

>>12032727
I'm proud to say I'm vegan. But I admit, I do enjoy a nice steak every now and then.

>>12033932
Seitan steak is delicious

>>12033549
I've recently read some studies and watched a few videos. Can you dump your facts? I'm curious.

I've been vegan for about 3 years now, and still have all my teeth. I make sure to get my vitamins by eating an egg or two at breakfast and a steak or some hamburger at supper.

>>12033858
So vegetables are new and scary to vegans?

>>12034084
I remember my first false flag

>>12033783
I love omnivore documentaries, only way to get the truth out don't you think so?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU

>>12034084
>supper
I wish all southern people would just die. what a stupid word, it's even worse than the baby-waby names british people give to things like calling breakfast 'brekky'

>>12034084
Not gonna lie, I'm vegan and I still lolled.

>>12033648
what a dumb thing to care about

fag

>>12034946
eat some veg. you'd be happier

>>12033549
low tier bait to begin with, but the tumblr filename gave it away.

>>12034084
Eating a little chicken liver weekly has really made my vegan experience a lot better. I was getting pretty tired before I started doing that.

What's everyone favourite cheat meal as a vegan?

I'll have KFC maybe once a month

>>12035065
>Vegan
>KFC once a month

Pick one

>>12032727
Sorry, I'm not into cuckholdry.

>>12035065
My once a month is Cattleman's Steakhouse. I go all out. Either that or one of those Brazilian Steakhouses like Texas de Brazil.

>>12035075
It's a cheat meal

>>12035135
Listen mother of bitch, I know what a cheat meal is but if you call yourself a vegan you cant have no huuduurr cheat meal

>>12032727
plant eating is murder so no

>>12035208
Yes he can. I do it as well. How dare you sub categorize me.

>>12035233
you must be trolling, but i'll still ask this, how can someone be a vegan if he/she eats animals? the whole definition of a vegan is that the person in question simply doesn't eat any animals

>>12035265
That's what we do. Only one a month, we don't. Very easy to understand. We're on the same side here.

>>12035075
This gatekeeping is really damaging the movement and doesn’t do anything to help animals.

>>12035265
Freeganism is part of veganism. The KFC is bought for me so I have not directly supported the meat industry

>vegan manga

>>12035334
Not having a clear stance against the lack of empathy for non-human animals could weaken the movement even futher. It would become the joke that is vegetarianism all over again.

>>12034907
Haha I didn't click those because you're a falseflagging doublenigger carnidisease but have you seen these omnivore documentaries?
https://youtu.be/gFT1PFpt9JQ
https://youtu.be/SzuiKZZtxZg
https://youtu.be/xdCfLjriD3g
https://youtu.be/ZjbdMWsze6w
https://youtu.be/qyP3aq3zlIw
https://youtu.be/WT4Zsjw2aVQ
https://youtu.be/gmi4pq6VPuk
https://youtu.be/Za8LxyX96ps

XD XD xD DX lole hahaha

>>12034907
So how much are you being paid each post?

>>12035469
Probably nothing. We get shills as well, but obnoxious extremism of all forms has been common on 4chan for a while.
It comes with the territory, which I would trade for the world. It's the one place left that still feels like the old internet.

Not opposed to vegans nor veganism in principle, but I just enjoy ham & cheese too much

>>12035469
She's probably not being paid for that. She's offended and has made it her full time job to post 3 proof by examples without any scientific evidence and use strawmans and other fallacies to accidentally further the vegan movement. Notice she posts 16 hours per day, and based on the hours she posts she lives in either the US or the UK depending on which shift she used to work. She has never made an actual argument and stops posting when you point out her past posts like this.
I can't imagine getting so triggered that I resort to wasting my life posting antivegan fallacies and being this retarded.
I have a slight feeling it's a vegan ring to further the movement though. Nobody is dumb enough to fall for fallacy posting, right? Like on a website where everyone is arguing at all times, you use the weakest argument possible? This can't be real. She's definitely trying to promote veganism by being the retarded "bad guy".

>>12035482
Seitan with walnut oil tastes exactly like pork if you spice it correctly.

>>12035532
Extreme doubt. I'd definitely give it a shot, though.

>>12035532
No vegan alternative has ever properly replicated a good ham & cheese sandwich. It's not a criticism, I like vegan stuff. But I just could never be a vegan

It unironically tastes better than whey protein to me. I avoided it for years because even Scooby said pea protein tastes like shit, but I tried this recently and fucking loved it. Great texture and taste. Only downside is it's more expensive and the powder sticks to everything.

>>12035346
no, it's not. if veganism = not using animal products then "freeganism" simply isn't veganism. it's something completely different.
next you'll prolly say you're not gay/bisexual just because you have sex with a dude(assuming you're a dude)once a month?

>>12035482
>hearts of palm
Nigga, you trying to save the planet or not?

>>12035549
Yeah their mock seafood recipes aren't great

>>12035541
Ginger, cumin, rosemary and caraway. Try it. Easy on the caraway.

>>12035481
I don’t think that’s extremism. His approach to fear propaganda is deliberate and calculated. He's never tried to argue logically.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques

>>12035548
You're probably getting baited; but, if someone is trying to reduce their meat intake, but not eliminate it, would you really be so petty as to judge them harshly?

>>12035282
applying the "once a month" logic to math would be 2+2 = 7 once a month...

about to make some seitan for the first time. how do i make it taste decent without adding a bunch of calories?

>>12035556
yeah, i know, i'm just bored out of my mind and have nothing to do. 1am, should sleep but can't for some reason.

i'm not judging his choices, i'm just saying that he shouldn't call himself a vegan when he clearly isn't one.

>>12035559
I dunno, mix it with a ton of pepper and hot sauce?

>>12035561
The funniest part is I actually know a couple people like that in real life. They "cheat" with bacon occasionally to rarely.

>>12035561
>cranky vegan
Shocked

>>12035559
Nooch. That's all really. Add your favorite spices to an oil glaze and slap it around it before you put it in the oven. If you don't spice the seitan dough and glaze it rather, make sure to use a literally buttload of spice on the outside of it. Breading also works.

https://youtu.be/U-6GZbJlBs4

>>12035579
Nooch is alive and not vegan

>>12035546
No vegan alternative has estrogen and casomorphine in it though.

>>12035568
i honestly don't get why anyone would call themselves vegans when they aren't. Literally no reason.
i know someone who eats fish only but at least she doesn't call herself a vegetarian

>>12035584
https://youtu.be/EqUFqaeZA2g

>>12035578
>implying i'm a vegan
Words will lose their meaning when used in that way, that's the issue here

>>12035587
If those are what make a ham & cheese delicious, then that's a price I'm willing to pay

I'm becoming vegetarian
I just dont like factory farming and dont want to support it
Hate to sound like a kumbaya fag but I'm pretty serious

My main staples will be beans, rice, vegetables and eggs. Wish me luck bois

>>12035579
>>12035565
Going full boomer here. Try shake and bake. I'm pretty sure it's vegetarian at the least.

>>12035597
Praise veganjesus

>>12035606
>I just dont like factory farming and dont want to support it

Did you consider eating organic before discounting meat entirely?

>>12035579
can you bake it instead of boiling it?

>>12035597
There's a plant that hunts down other plants by their scent and distress signals. Botany is bretty cul.

>>12035612
I only bake it. It's better baked. The inside stays nice and moist like sverige's boibussy and the outside gets a nice crunchy or chewy texture, if you bread or oil it respectively.

>>12035607
Yeah, there's no natural flavorings even, so nothing hidden. It's definitely vegan. Unless yeast aren't vegan.
And I'm an omnivore, but it makes pork chops so much better and I'm not even a fan of pork. So I could see it making vegetable protein taste more "porky".

>>12035621
how long/what temp do you bake it at? do you need to add yeast?

>>12035618
Reactive =/= sentience

>>12033804
Why can't you just eat boiled grains instead of bread? Texture is important, also they are relatively dense protein sources which vegan diets often lack.

>>12035630
Not to us, perhaps. But we used to think goldfish we're completely thoughtless and incapable of pain.
What do you make of trees communicating via the mycorrhiza connecting their roots?

>>12035639
were*
Guilty of phoneposting.

>>12035639
What's the root of your argument? Plants feel pain so it's okay to eat animals and 'ur a vegen hypopotamouscrit'?

>>12035646
Not really. I just felt like engaging in conversation.
Chana masala is a really good vegan dish. Indians have some good ones.

>>12035657
Referencing Indians is cheating because hamburgers are illegal there.

If they knew, they would cut the vegetarian shit out

>>12035669
>fried soy sticks
Probably not bad. What's the sauce though?

>>12035693
Some kind of vegan thousand island probavbly

>>12035702
Shieeeeet, most thousand island dressing is probably soy based rather than cream based in the states by now.

>>12035606
You need to eat lethal amount of cholesterol to get enough daily B12 from eggs so consider supplements. It's normally produced by bacteria in river or well water but those sources are incompatible with our modern way of life.

>>12035669
>those sticks

>>12035738
Oh wait, might have eggs in it. Oh well, lactovopescatarians are the master race anyway.

>>12035752

>>12035346
Ironically, by the vegans own definition of "Veganism" only freegans, are real vegans. All other vegans cause massive suffering and slaughter of animals.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

But the freegans live off dumpster harvesting, so their money does not fund the deaths of wild animals like "vegans" do.

>>12035759
fair enough

>>12035759
I'm a meat muncher, but I've raised fowl with love and care. They didn't care that I took some eggs. They frollicked around me as I gardened, sure that I would kill anything that dared to endanger them. I gave them a good life.
So fuck off, tosser.

Actual veganism is cringe-tier.

Redpilled people just reduce the amount of meat they eat. For example, we have one day of the week where we don't eat meat. For me, it's Wednesdays.

Imagine if every human did that. We could reduce the world's meat production by 14%.

>>12035767
Got anything with data? That's a blog/opinion. Half the links are dead. Most are cherry picked anyway.
Here's a similar shit-tier article but one that has a study done by a multinational agriculture organization.
https://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/plant-based-vegan-diet-global-hunger-food-crisis/

>>12035429
You realize those videos you posted are all junk food addicts who eat plant based diet? If you watch the vegan teen empty-head that Sverige roasts in his reaction video, she is eating vegan junk food and almost bragging about it

Any carnivore fans of sverige (like me) that you think you are roasting online, we have zero understanding or familiarity with obese junk food eaters. It's damn near impossible to become obese eating raw meat, a few vegetables and fruits, and avoiding all junk food. (Not that you care lol)

>>12035776
NO

IT CAN ONLY BE ONE EXTREME OR ANOTHER. THE MIDDLE GROUND DOESN'T EXIST

>>12035776
The world population would've already increased by a proportional size by the time this happens.

>>12035802
This

Veganism is just delaying the inevitable genocide

>>12035801
Causing an unimaginable amount of suffering to billions of consciousness is the only extreme here. You're going to be reincarnated in every single one of them btw.

>>12035799
>first one eats pizza 30 seconds into the video
>such a low attention span that he can't even watch the first video for 30 seconds
>same 3 proof by examples adding to nonargument fallacy
>16 hours
>>12035527
Your brain on carnism

>>12035821
>she actually believes in any kind of afterlife

OH NO NO NO!!

>>12035799

>>12035606
So you don't like "factory farming" ? OK. You reject the idea ofmjust buying from proper grassland farms, OK. But you also have zero problem maiming and killing massive numbers of wild animals on the vegetables farms you will support with your money ?

OK
https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>12035831
This is a figure of speech. Our sentiences were equally likely to be born in any of the farm animals. I don’t believe in afterlife as I'm pretty nihilistic.

>>12035858
>Fallacy
Habitats are disrupted by planting food, and animals are killed during harvest, so vegans kill animals too.
>Response
Crop fields do indeed disrupt the habitats of wild animals, and wild animals are also killed when harvesting plants. However, this point makes the case for a plant-based diet and not against it, since many more plants are required to produce a measure of animal flesh for food (often as high as 12:1) than are required to produce an equal measure of plants for food (which is obviously 1:1). Because of this, a plant-based diet causes less suffering and death than one that includes animals.
It is pertinent to note that the idea of perfect veganism is a non-vegan one. Such demands for perfection are imposed by critics of veganism, often as a precursor to lambasting vegans for not measuring up to an externally-imposed standard. That said, the actual and applied ethics of veganism are focused on causing the least possible harm to the fewest number of others. It is also noteworthy that the accidental deaths caused by growing and harvesting plants for food are ethically distinct from the intentional deaths caused by breeding and slaughtering animals for food. This is not to say that vegans are not responsible for the deaths they cause, but rather to point out that these deaths do not violate the vegan ethics stated above.

>>12035791
>Soy is used to feed mistreated factory farmed chickens and hogs.

Why are you posted that to me? That is emotional propaganda aimed at 11 year old girls. Besides, the FACT that millions of small mammals and reptiles are massacred on vegetables farms appears to be a strong secret that 99% of vegans appears to have no knowledge of.

>I LOVE ANIMALS SO MUcH OU MY GAIA!!!
>Pays own money to agribusiness farms which massacre countless animals with pesticides and intensive cultivation

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

I'm just pointing out that 99% of vegans are astonishingly deluded or outright liars.

>>12035635
But they don't eat vegetables. You go to any vegan restaurant and 80% of the menu will be tofu this, seitan that and tempeh the other. Why not just eat vegetables? I eat vegetables. Lots of vegetables. I eat tofu, seitan and tempeh from time to time, but the base of my diet is vegetable. I eat about 900g or so daily of fruits and veg. How about you?

>>12035825
>¶izza
Thanks for proving my point.
Bread, tomato sauce, seasonings, some questionable cheese and few slivers of highly processed pepperoni (junk food meat)

90% plant based modern junk food. Even carnivore scientists will maybe-- admit vegan is better than SAD junk food diet. Means nothing to someone eating healthy grass fed beef and lamb. Keep up the empty posts!

>>12035657
Chana masala traditionally has butter in the north and fish flake in the south. In either case, it's not vegan.

>>12035938
Vegetables are only good for you as part of a balanced diet.

Vegan diets are not balanced

>>12035947

Grilled cheese sandwiches are disgusting. I thought vegans knew how to eat good food? Why would they eat such garbage.

>>12035840
>Vegetable police.

Another huge defector from your vegan cult to us. Why do so many vegans quit? Don't they like being sick anorexics?

>>12035947
Vegetarian diets can be, tho, right?

>>12035963
Vegetarians eat eggs and fish, meaning they get the nutrition they need

>>12035958
gotta trick the carnivores

>>12035966
i think vegetarians don't eat flesh. fish is flesh. eggs and dairy are not flesh.

>>12035970
Fish is a controversial subject.

Christians can't eat meat on Fridays, so Friday is fish day.

>>12035877
tl*dr
>We massacre millions of animals out of love
>and justify it with some mumbo-jumbo
>ignore the blood on our hands


>If a carnivore eats one cow a year, which ate nothing but pastureland grass,
>that proves he is a monster

Every argument you make just further demonstrates the staggering hypocrisy of Vegans and Veganism.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>12035966
>>12035974

Wtf no. Vegetarians simply don't eat anything that they'd have to kill in order to eat.
Meaning they don't eat fish either.
Eggs are indeed fine though.

>>12035997
Fish isn't meat according to Jesus. It's why "fish & chips Friday" is a thing

>>12036001

Jesus can go to hell

>>12035974
i'm aware. my family are old-style christians. while few of us are religious these days, my grandmother was. she upheld all the abstinance days, so a little over half the year, she ate a vegan diet. this meant not just fridays, but also wednesdays as well as all the days the church says to

>>12036001
because religion has never been wrong about science before, amirite?

>>12035591
>Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose

They call themselves vegan because they ARE vegan. They use only as many animal products as is practical for maintaining their physical and mental health.

the only diet that kills no animals is the dairy-only vegetarian diet. but eating one cow per year as a carnivore is certainly much less animal death than the thousands of birds and rodents killed by conventional plant agriculture that vegans support.

>carnism

>>12035914
You've posted the same debunked blog article 3 times now.

>>12036026

The quote you made does not mention "maintaining their physical and mental health".
It merely mentions that they exclude cruelty and exploitation of animals as far as is "possible and practicable".
And as far as I am concerned, it is both POSSIBLE and PRACTICABLE to live without using animal products.
Having a slight protein deficiency hasn't killed anyone. There are people walking around that weigh 500lbs and need to sit in those motorized carts to be able to move around at Walmart, and those people continue to stuff their face with burgers and pizza.
So I think a vegan can survive just fine with a slight protein deficiency .

>>12036080
No vegan list has ever debunked anything I said. Do you deny that vegetable farms use pesticides which kill thousands of small animals? Do you deny that deep tilling and intensive cultivation methods are used on vegetables farms, killing millions of mice, Rabbits, voles, etc?

What has been "debunked" about the simple and basic truth you liar???

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>12036107
>blog article stringing together fallicious logic
Maybe if you post it a seventh time someone will believe you

>>12036176
Vegans only believe lies, so of course I never

expect you to appreciate what I post, because I only tell the truth. You still have not backed up how you "debunked" a few basic simple facts like

>√egetable farms kill massive numbers of small animals with pesticides and intensive cultivation methods.

You tell me this is debunked? Do agribusiness farms no longer use pesticides? Post some more lies, it's something vegans need evidently to feel good about their cult.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>12033602
>margarine
absolutely disgusting. I would try cashew sour cream. I'm a fan of cashew "milk" and cashew "cheeses" are decent too. Coconut cream can be pretty good in some contexts too. what kinda stuff do you make with it?

>>12036197
>rangeland beef
Nonexistent in most countries
>blog article citing its own website
Got any science to go along with your blog?
Maybe if you post it again it will be true.

Are gradual transitions like carnist to pescatarian a good idea? Been considering it, and perhaps to vegetarian if it works well

>>12036086
>as far as I am concerned, it is both POSSIBLE and PRACTICABLE to live without using animal products

4U. But other people can’t, and it’s really toxic of you to say they can’t be vegan unless they hurt themselves. The vegan attrition rate wouldn’t be so high if we let people know it’s okay to eat a little meat for their health.

>>12034276
I rrmrmber when I was so casught up in carnism that I couldnt tske a joke either

>>12036221
>Grass fed beef.
>Non existent in most countries.

Have you made a single post today that wasn't a complete lie? I wonder what vegans do inside closed doors? Sacrifice animals to the devil? Veganism is Satanic so how do you worship your Lord, besides lying all the time?

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>12036265
This is normal for eating disorder retards, to descend the crazy cult ladder to full blown raw vegan, step by step. Pescetarian is a good start if that's what you want to do.

>>12036407
Bro what is "carnism?"

>>12036431
who is this?

>>12036922
Dr. Dray. Very popular YouTube Vegan skin doctor. All vegans dream of being as lean as the obviously healthy Dr Dray.

Honest question, what do you vegans/vegetarians think of lab grown meat? I mean it will replace farmed meat in a few years and its completly harm free

>>12036998
>>12036431
>3 proof by examples
>YouTube as argument
>no scientific arguments
>16 hours per day
I'm vegan now wtf

>>12036009
He already did

>vegan diets are perfect for health
>digestion and gut issues.. could be SIBO, better email gojiman
>gojiman receives 200-300 emails a day from vegans looking to send their shit in a box to him
>perfect for health

>>12036422
He didn't say grass fed beef is non existent in most countries, he was commenting on rangeland beef.

Now I don't know in most, but in civilized countries (ie. Europe) there isn't any significant rangeland. Grassland here is fertilized, because of the relatively high population density there is no real alternative.

Since going vegan, junk food taste bland and refined carbs aren't as addictive anymore. How to fix my lack of craving issue?

>>12037395
Same. Also my dick grew like 4 inches. Weird how that works isn't it?

>>12037017
Pretty obvious a faggot like you is vegan.
>>12037258
If we're talking first world here, then you have the ability to import and pay for superiour grass fed beef like from for example Australia or uk or Ireland. Why are vegan "arguments" always just double talk and lies?
>>12037420
>And my teeth fell out
>Guess I won't mention that

>>12037445
Mad cuz heart disease
Also
>full time job
>same 3 proof by examples
>fallacy nonarguments and self reflection
Carnists btfo once again

>>12037445
>>rangeland beef

>If we're talking first world here, then you have the ability to import and pay for
>beef like from for example Australia or uk or Ireland.

The argument was about rangeland. The ability ability to feed significant amount of cattle from wilderness land is only available to a few countries. UK and Ireland not among them.

>>12037629
I guess just posting astonishing lies is a good way to derail a thread, if you don't like the way it's going.

I tip my kippa to you vegan agenda activist.

(Lie to yourself and the world, but the mirror will tell you the truth if you stay vegan too long)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rieOahGXUU

>>12037456
>The veganbot

>>12037741
>>12037745
>when full time shilling is so boring you spend your time falseflagging as a false flag
>actually is a deep learning computer program disguising itself as human with multilayered humor

Reminder that vegans are the insane radicals of vegitarianism. Only a moron believes they can disconnect themselves completely from animal suffering in modern society. Sad truth.

>>12037741
Dude lookin' like an extra from Walking Dead talkin' 'bout "veganism is healthy."
FOH with this shit.

>>12035812
>>12035802
To be fair, malthusians went nuts saying agriculture was unsustainable way back and we would soon face global starvation. Then came global cooling, etc.
Yet we still manage to increase yield per acre every year, even as humanity as a whole.
The march oactual progress pisses progressives off more than anyone, ironically.
That said, the de facto collectivization is actually somewhat disturbing to me. I'm not going to defend Monsanto to "own the libs".

>>12037741
>I lose some teeth

>>12037745
Remember to check for colon cancer carnietard!

Suggest vegan or vegetarian dinner that doesn't include meat analogues and isn't a stir-fry, please.
I have on hand: garlic, ginger, onions, various chiles, peppers in various colours, button mushrooms, cabbage, mature spinach, carrots, parsnips, parsley roots, beetroots, turnips, asparagus, herb celery (not vegetable celery as I forgot to pick some up ;_;), kale, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, yellow zucchini/courgettes, salad greens, bitter broccoli, various types of tomato, frozen artichokes, frozen broad beans, frozen lima beans, frozen peas, frozen corn kernels, tinned tomatoes, tinned peas, tinned beetroot, various sorts of tinned beans, various sorts of dry beans and a large variety of herbs and spices catering mostly towards central European, Middle Eastern, south Asian and southeast Asian cuisines. Possibly other vegetables that are escaping memory at the moment.
I don't wanna default to a stir-fry cuz I had stir-fried asparagus in oyster sauce (gasp! I'm not a veganitarianist!) as part of lunch, but I will if I have to.

>>12039036
Juice, add copious amounts of salt, and take some fish oil.

>>12032727
>starvation general

>>12039046
I made a strawberry/mango smoothie for breakfast so not really in the mood for another drinkable meal (though I'm not ruling out soup). I have tomato juice on hand and have some carrot juice in the freezer, so thanks for the suggestion as it helped me remember that I had them.

>>12039036
Roasted carrots, served with a side of coleslaw

>>12039036
sounds like a yummy and hearty chili can be made here

>>12038834
>Dude lookin' like an extra from Walking Dead talkin' 'bout "veganism is healthy."

You just described damn near every long term vegan lol.

>>12039085
Chili might be a go. Either that, tomato soup or mixed vegetable curry. Only problem for the curry would be that I am not in the mood to wash, rinse and cook some rice. Think it'd be fucked to eat a curry with toast?

>>12038834
Looks more like one of the hillbilly inbreds from Wrong Turn.

>>12039385
>dude 3 proof by examples
>talking about the and video from bald, flat earth, sunstaring cuck
>not a single brain cell firing on its own
>butt cancer accumulating as we speak
lmao your brain on carnism

>>12039720
Vegans with their head in the sand. Hopefully you'll be an 84%er before it's too late

>>12040307

I eat mostly plant-based food but vegans are faggots. I do it for health reasons, but I have no objections to eggs for breakfast or the occasional steak or pork stir-fry. We are at the top of the food chain and there is nothing wrong with that.

>>12036998
Doot doot

>>12039720
Is Natty like this achievable?

>>12040916
>Doot doot
Bang bang

>>12032727
Carnist here, sorry for my weakness in eating animals and animal products. But I wish you all the best for converting myself and people like me, threads like this will ultimately be more productive than spamming non-vegan threads with propaganda. Good news is that three quarters of my diet is cruelty free, maybe one day I’ll be able to make the final jump.

Carnist here, but I was cooking with coconut milk and I wondered, do you guys ever make coconut cheese?
Seems like if it stayed together it'd make a tasty paneer.

>>12037745
That thing's a tranny that used to be anorexic though, I think a lot more shit is fucking up her body than diet.

>>12032727
Enjoy your liver failure from lack of choline you fucking beanfags, also if you're a vagina please don't have any children because they will be even more retarded than you

>>12033648
I eat lots of veggies. And beans.

>>12041195
And leafs of course

Animals are given brain damage before slaughter and therefore count as vegetable.

>>12041170
Excess choline feeds certain bacteria in the gut which synthesis toxic compounds (TMAO). We only need 300 to 500mg /day and that's easy to get from beans or lentils.
https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/choline/

>>12041365
Vegan cope

>>12032727

>>12041098
No worries mate, turns out you can eat fish, all the vegans are doing it now, check out "Rawvana" very popular Youtube vegan, enjoying vegan (real) fish at a restaurant. Big tent bro.

>>12040813
So vegetarians are smarter than vegans

This is vegan kino

https://youtu.be/1RZflzWpKG0

>>12042001
Why does veganism chafe your ass so much? I've seen you spamming this shit elsewhere. This is from a fellow meat eater so don't flip your shit faggot.

>>12042001
She should have shit in a box and sent it to gojiman

>>12042001
This may be the least important piece of news I have ever seen.
Additionally; I'd eat her fish if you know what I mean.

>>12042170
I'm vegan now, so please do not address me in such fashion carnist.

>>12042170
The Satanist cult to which he belongs aims to cause as much suffering as possible because muh nihilism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVR7NjnMkIc

>>12042236
Well memed friend. Eat lead.

>>12042237
I'm not the torture porn fetishist mr. or mz. vegan.

How many hours do you spend watching animals being tortured (by vegan filmakers) and killed? Sick fucks.

>>12042257
The only sick man is you, not even the people you've successfully brainwashed with your blatant, ubiquitous inversion of the truth. What happened ever to you when you were young?

There is nothing wrong about eating roadkill as a vegan, right?

>>12035610
Organic is still factory farmed, still killed at the same slaughterhouse.

>average human diet already 80% "plant-based"
how do ppl get fooled into believing that cutting out the tiny amount of animal foods we still eat is somehow better. more meat for me i guess. i feel bad for people following this unironically.

>>12035775
Yeah you gave them protection and you made them trust you. Then you fucking murdered them, you monster.

>>12041105
The vegan cheese brands seems to usually use coconut, haven't tried them so can't say if they're any good.

>>12033590
The plant milks just tend to have the same amount of sweetness and thickness (fattyness), but the actual flavour is always going to be different, oat milk is probably the best since most Westerners will have had oats before. Not a fan of soy or coconut milk really.

>>12042379
oreos and french fries are vegan
maybe if I eat nothing but those, I'm guaranteed to lose weight because everyone says vegan is #1 weight loss

>>12042335
Nice try, monsanto! Sad, many such cases.

>>12032727
serious question, what's the upside of being vegan?

>>12033602
>making cashew cream
yeah, sounds just as simple as, you know, just using cream. also how do you even make cashew cream?

>using coconut cream
that's like substituting meat for fish, somewhat similar but not in the same fucking ballpark tastewise.

>using margarine

sure, let's use something that adds calories but in no way contributes to anything.

jesus anon, are you even trying?

>>12042379
simple answer, people in general are retarded.
just watch flat earth theory being alive and kicking in at least USA.

>>12033590
Cooking vegan is absolutely NOT difficult unless you're sub 80 IQ

>>12033932
not vegan then, sorry.

>>12035022
Ethically speaking wouldn't it be more logical to eat mollusks than sentient animAls?

ex vegans and health vegans are morally worse than meat eaters.

>>12043105
Some hyper-religious people will also eat no oil during Lent. This is called "dry fasting." My grandmother was nearly hyper religious but even she didn't go without olive oil.

>>12032727
Eating a wypipo mixed vegetable curry for dinner tonight. It's not vegan, but it could be if you swap out the butter for some other cooking fat. Over 500g of veg in one sitting.

>>12043080
Increased penis length from a diet free of animal hormones and animal fats clogging its arteries.

>>12043157
that's just wishful thinking, try again

>>12043165
>that's just wishful thinking, try again

>>12043123
>fell for the bait

>>12037039
Le super edgy le post desu! UwU

>>12033826
Are you referring to israel? It's israel isn't it.

>>12043577
>israel
>western
lol
If the national language sounds like a cat coughing up a hairball, it's not a western country.

>>12032727
I have this strange deja vu

Not that I mind it that much but why do vegans have to create so much foods that act like a meat substitute. I'm not vegan, but I don't eat a whole lot of meat and I usually cook foods without using something like "tofurkey" or vegan <insert animal product here>

>>12043576
No, idiot, after being crucified he went to hell. Try knowing what you are talking about you little fuck.

>>12043183
congrats, you know how to use the memearrow, but that post is literally worthless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu8ktHta1yE

carnists just suffered a major loss AGAIN!
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
carnist poster boi "Frankie the Face" just showed everyone how a carnicuck diet will actually turn you into a vegetable
2 hours of total embarrassment, true kino for every cringe aficiando

>"muh circulating LDL cholesterol in the arterial wall"
>"muh humans are carnivores cuz of short jaws!"
>"muh fermenting gut enzymes"
>"but m-muh retinol SNPs!"
>"muh relative risk ratio!"

uhoh carnoducks, thats some bad optics for your little movement ;-)

Anyone got a good vegan cook book rec?

>>12035547
Have fun with all that lead poisoning.

>>12035549
What's wrong with heart of palm? It uses a pretty substantial part of the plant and it grows like weed.

>>12032727
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>>12044794
>believing maddox
All antivegans are bald, prove me wrong
>you can't

>>12044425
You got rekt

>>12044794
>Maddox
A literal cuck

>>12044533
Bosh is the big one here in Britain, might be a good start.

baby killers

>>12044496
You do know carnist is for all meat eaters not just carnivore dieters?

Keto, paleo, omnivores and such don't even know who vegan gains or Frank Tufano are. Most meat eaters will look at that debate and go:

Vegan gains - depressed nigger who doesn't eat his species diet e.g. fried chicken and watermelon
Tristan - born again Bible basher who probably doesn't believe in evolution
Frank Tufano - some makeup channel YouTuber fag talking about his diet to reduce the amount of shit on his boyfriend's dick

Three retards with no scientific background or further education throwing pubmed studies at the each other.

>>12034907

I'm not even vegan but I'm convinced the people who post theses videos are because they are so hilariously stupid and so far from being credible they make carnivore eaters look like complete idiots. There are probably dozens of legitimate reasons you can give to not eat a vegan diet, but instead you just make a meme video that looks like it was assembled and made by a young teenager.

I work for a place that serves vegan food and I add butter to everything I can get my hands on. If people get suspicious I tell them it's vegan vegetable oil spread

it's always amusing to watch some of these vegan debates and find that their arguments are actually pretty easily defeatable, but the people they're arguing with are somehow even more retarded than they are

>>12047320
Veganism (like everything leftist) is retarded on it's face. Vegans get so sick and malnourished their teeth fall out (long term vegans) .....most vegans quit long before the emaciation and teeth falling out etc.

Why would anyone entertain a starvation cult with "legitimate reasons?" I will not be trolled by some toothless zombies screaming about how healthy they are lol. Vegans are to be laughed at openly, do not be trolled please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rieOahGXUU

>try seitan
>tastes exactly like it sounds

Decided to go raw veg during the week. I really feel a difference, though I do snack a lot more now.

>>12032727
Have been since the 90s. Been eating almost exclusively unrefined foods for a few years. I actually hit my nutrient targets now. The rest of my family is fat.

>>12048306
The raw fad is dead. Whole is what matters. Legumes, tubers, grains are good.

There was a raw place here and it was shit because they put coconut meme oil and de-fibered fruit juice in everything. A stomach full of nuts without much starch doesn't feel good. They closed when they were no longer the only vegan place.

>>12048340
I don't really care about fads. I'm just trying to cut the weight I gained over the winter off.

Any good recipe sites for vegetarian/vegan? Im not going all in yet and will still eat seafood, but I need lunch ideas regardless.

>>12048505

/r/plantbaseddiet

and steal a copy of Dr. Greger's cockbook

https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/hrgmv/tracker_with_pdfsebooks_of_college_textbooks/c1xrq44/

>>12048416
The only way to lose weight is to just eat less, anything telling you otherwise is a fad

>>12048306
The raw diet fad is antivegan false lag.

>>12048416
>>12048532

That plus exercise, of course

right now I'm vegetarian, I haven't gone vegan because there's only one vegan store in my city and it's way too expensive.
for you guys that don't have access to stuff like vegan cheese, what do you put on your sandwiches? other than hummus...

>>12048505
dunno about sites but i made this recipe all the time
https://www.everydayeasyeats.com/indian-chickpea-coconut-curry/
without the ginger and spinach

>>12048532
Resetting your pallette is a very real thing. That's what I'm trying to accomplish. Just reducing intake doesn't help if I'm still craving fried and fatty foods.

>>12041195
looks good

>>12049585
I'm confused as to how people can't make sandwiches without cheese. Just leave it out. There are a bazillion vegan-friendly spreads or toppings you could put in a sandwich: nut butters, hummus, salsa, dressings, oil/vinegar, preserves, hot sauce

>>12049598
you're right... I live in a kinda forgotten city in Brazil so I can't find a lot of stuff for good prices but honestly I think it's mostly my fault for not being very creative

>>12032727
I am 80% vegan because of my "ass" condition and 20% meat is to keep myself from committing suicide caused by veganism

>>12032727
>General

>>12033549
Whomst the fuck is that neckbearded blob and did he actually agree to be filmed behaving like that?

>>12035604
shit, that looks good.

>Pasta
>Potatoes
>Oatmeal
>can eat as much as I want without losing my 6 pack
comfy

>>12032727
No, but I enjoy eating plant-based as much as possible. There are so many other ingredients than beef, chicken, and pork.

>>12052571
This

>>12052571
Agreed, other ingredients like bison and lamb are good too