/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12017065
Sometimes I prefer vegetables to be steamed/boiled instead of roasted. Steamed vegetables with lemon or vinegar just feels more satisfying to eat with a fatty main dish for me. Don't really think it's ever the best option for meat though.

>>12017065
Ham hock boiled for about three hours with some simple stuff like onion, carrot, pepper, salt, bay leaf is amazing.

Yes it looks like something you would throw out but the taste is fantastic. Is you have any other ideas for making ham hock at home, please tell me.

Boiled dinner you fucking retard. Roasting would be better if what you wanted was a roast. Maybe your gf wants a boiled dinner, hence the fucking boiling. I bet you think bread should always be toasted

>>12017088
hock boiled with chinese five spices is pretty good

>>12017065
Save the text of this OP and anytime you wonder "what is mansplaining" re-read it.

I've never had it, but I'd bet a roasted corned beef which hasn't first been boiled would be salty as fuck.

>>12017115
I will definitely look into it.
But I was thinking of making it in a way that wasn't boiled like OP asked for.

>>12017065
My mom has always boiled chicken. It's so bland, it fills me with shame that the chicken has suffered two deaths. Reminds me of the human meat from Antiviral.

>>12017127
It has nothing to do with mansplaining you dumb roastie. Roasting potatoes, meat, and vegetables is objectively better. She also only makes gravy only with cornstarch instead of a proper roux, is it mansplaining try to explain why the latter is better?

>>12017065
Making soup.

cured meat is often boiled because it remediates the salt issue
ham has been mentioned a few times
corned beef is another

boiling vegetables for mash is usually preferable also

>>12017088
Doesn`t the germans roast them? Schweinhaxe I belive they call them.

>>12017065
My dad used to make a boiled dinner just like in your pic when I was little.
It was absolutely delicious. Not sure what the protein is in your pic but my dad used some ham steaks. I'm not even sure if there were any seasonings, the salty ham just kinda flavored everything and the broth and tender veggies were perfect. Wish I had some right now...

>>12017521
>objectively
Do you ever even leave 4chan?

>>12017065
What does she think of your non-boiled food with similar ingredients?

Maybe it is one of those nostalgia flavors that rather than taste good, takes her back to her childhood. Ask her if she has eaten boiled dinners since she was a kid.

>>12017065
I wouldn't recommend baking carpet but if you boil it long enough, that's another story.

Chicken slow boiled with veggies and aromatic spices is the fucking best. The broth needs to be slightly on the salty side and served like a stew. Like albondigas or other tough cuts of beef.

>>12017127
You're an idiot.

>>12017521
There are three types of mansplaining.
Type 1 is when a man explains to a woman something she already knows in an extremely condescending manner.

Type 2 is when a man explains to a woman something she doesn't know, but it makes her feel stupid for not having known it, so she takes offense at it. This may or may not be done in a condescending tone.

Type 3 is when a man explains to a woman why she is wrong about something by using facts and evidence. Doesn't matter what that something is nor how objective and irrefutable his evidence is.

Basically, contradicting a woman in any way can be 'mansplaining,' even if you're right. No one should ever do Type 1. If the woman is an immunologist, don't try to explain cytokine storms to her. She already knows, so just STFU.
Whether a man doing Types 2 or 3 is in the right or wrong is up for discussion depending on the situation.

See, I'm all for egalitarianism and sex equality, but in order to have that, women who do/say dumb shit need to take responsibility/be held accountable for the dumb shit they do/say and not hide behind a wall of self-imagined persecution just because the person who knew more than her happens to have a cock and a pair of balls.
Also, everyone needs to stop complaining about how there aren't enough women in the maths and sciences. Taking a bio course instead of women's studies or feminist theory is the fastest way to change that and if you're a woman who took such courses but not maths or sciences, then fuck you very much, but your opinion doesn't fucking matter.
>Waaaaaah!!! I wasn't told I could do that when I was 3 years old! I need feminism to absolve me of my poor decisions!
If Dorothy Vaughan could do it in 1929 with the triple whammy of black, poor and female, then fuck your excuses. Any woman can do it today.
Yes, I mad.

>>12017111
Go ahead, boil some bread you fucking idiot. Don't post results.

>>12018105
low iq post

poached egg?

>>12018105
you're retarded

>>12017065
how else am i gonna get my zacierka?

Boiling without finishing the food in other ways is literally the worst shit ever and of course it’s white people who love this shit because it will dilute all the flavor and spice of whatever their cooking into a pasty non offensive mush.

boiled steak

>>12017065
Boiling is basically never useful. Poaching and cooking at a simmer is excellent for many applications.

Literally only lobsters. Tell her just because people in Maine boil lobsters doesn't mean you have to boil every goddamn thing.

seafood

>>12018070
Jesus Christ! Will you stop mansplaining about mansplaining FOR A MINUTE?! This is a cooking board, not your personal palace and manscomplaining blog.

>>12017065
Is this bait? Does OP not understand what a boiled dinner is?

>>12017065
>Mmmm... Roast corn beef and cabbage. Are you out of your mind? Best way to ruin pickled brisket would be to roast it. Would dry out that way.

>>12018491
Nope, still sounds better than boiled.

>>12018517
You deluded fool!

>>12017065
Aside from soups and sauces, pork is going to be your go-to for boiling. Pork can be tough, and has a fairly strong but dull flavor that can mask herbs and spices, and boiling helps on both fronts.

>>12018070
>Type 3 is when a man explains to a woman why she is wrong about something by using facts and evidence. Doesn't matter what that something is nor how objective and irrefutable his evidence is.

Why is using facts "mansplaining?" They teach you in school to support your position by using facts and data. So it's wrong to support your argument against a woman?

>>12018358
sir...

>>12017127
Since the man in this case is 100% correct you can shut your fucking cockholster.

>>12018070
Does #1 work in reverse at all? If I'm a chemical engineer, and some fucking hippy cooze tries to tell me why 'chemicals are bad', can I just tell her she's cuntsplaining?

>>12018287
Boiling anything results in a shit taste. Whites are generally okay but their palate is worse than that of a niggers.

boiled banana > roasted banana

>>12017065
i think it mostly comes down to time/efficiency. anything you could make boiled you could easily roast for longer amounts of time, given the proper amount of liquid and work gone into it. It's gotta be an old world/classic poor immigrant/no stoves recipe right?

>>12019092
no ovens, i mean

>>12017065
Generally when making soups/stews, boiling/simmering is the best method. You can shortcut with pressure/slow cookers, but I find these results aren't quite as fantastic as when done in the pot over a stove (largely due to order control you lose in pressure cooker and crockpots).

Cooking pasta also is the other place where boiling is correct and the best method.

Hard/soft boiled eggs are also the other useful case, though sous vide can generate much better results in a more repeatable manner.

>>12018699
Yes, in the current year women are always right and should never be corrected in any way, shape or form.

>>12018759
Femsplaining has been suggested as the possible gendered alternative to the sexist 'mansplaining' term.

>>12017065
Well, with a boiled dinner, you're usually cooking a corned beef brisket. Simmering it low and slow for several hours is the best way to break down the connective tissue and release the collagen, making for tender meat.

The issue is timing. That brisket needs 7 or 8 hours at 200 degrees, which is enough to turn veggies into mush. One thing you can do is cook your corned beef the night before. Or, start it in the morning, cook it and set aside to rest a while before serving, then use the water from simmering it to steam or boil your cabbage and potatoes.

>>12018714
Boiled eggs are basically sous vide. The egg itself isn't touching the boiling liquid since it's in a shell.

>>12017065
I like those cheap corned beefs you can get pre-seasoned in plastic boiled with cabbage. I'm sure there's a better way to do it, but I grew up poor and that's how we always made it so it's a piece of my childhood I actually like.

>>12018358
If you can make a halfway decent tomato sauce without bringing it to a boil at some stage of the prep, I'll literally pay you for the recipe.

>>12017065
In the world of "any cases", I would personally like to see a legitimate attempt to roast navy beans or black-eyed peas.

ITT: OP is a cooklet who cannot into food with a gf he doesnt deserve. Meanwhile others attempt to save him from his faggy ways.

>>12019152
Hmmm... what would a cassoulet with black eyed peas be like?

Like... cajun spiced duck legs and thighs, on top of black eyed peas with some andoulille sausage and maybe ham hock.

Get your boil and your roasting all in one package.

>>12017127
My wife keeps using the word "mansplaining" wrong and I don't know what to do about it

>>12018070
You must be awesome at parties, right?

>>12018105
confirmed for never having had a decent bagel in your life

>>12018759
no because it is not a problem in reverse, outside of "as a mother..."

>>12019164
It means you have an opinion, which men have never been allowed to do and suddenly they think they can. Always say "yes dear" when your wife talks. This is the way it has always been, this is the way it always will be.

>>12018070
white knight fuck

I think perogies are better when they are just boiled.

>>12017065
If you're not from a maritime place you probably just dont get it, boiled dinner is boiled because that's what it fucking is, if you roast everything fine but that's not a boiled dinner.

>>12017065
no, not even for pasta

>>12017065
Yes. Pot-au-feu.

>>12017521
Cornstarch is much better than a roux, you don’t use nearly as much starch so you get more of the flavour of the liquid.

>>12017568
Eisbein is the boiled version.

Bouillabaisse
Tonkotsu

>>12017065
hello im really gay btw, not sure if that matters or not

>>12019171
>>12019242
I summon mod gods to send you back to the front-page of the internet.

>>12018112
It's still baked afterwards, retard. You should have posted a dumpling or something.

As someone with a vagina, let me explain this to you incels who will never touch one. Pasta is better boiled than roasted.

Sorry for the vagesplaining guise don't reply because I'm off to see a guy unironically named Chad whose taking me to breakfast if you know what I mean.lol

>>12018070
Your mouth and hands are made for pleasing cock and your brain was made for remembering how to please cock and giving you good feelings in your cunt so you become addicted to pleasing cock so I have no idea why you're wasting them on this shit.

>>12017065
in eastern eurostan we boil everything

>>12020763
Yeah you guys aren't really a reference point for what civilized people should or shouldn't do, no offense.

Imagine being angry because you don't know how to boil food

Mainefag here

OP where the fuck is your girlfriend from where eating boiled dinner is acceptable? My mom’s from Jersey and my dad’s not a retarded pioneer dipshit so I’ve never had Boiled Dinner, but I know it’s a thing that normal Mainefags don’t eat unless they’re poor, old, and/or retarded

Obviously lobster and seafood doesn’t count but shout outs to Louisiana because that shit looks great

>>12020763
And if not boiled to mush, it's oven roasted. I think this has to be stressed, because I google boiled meat and still looks like meat.

There are not other ways to prepare meat.

>>12017127
>>12018070
You know why people hate you? You are like fucking horde of vikings who leaves behind the smoking ruins of online communities. Hop into your ufo and fly back to the dark side of the moon from where you came.

>>12019942
Please don’t tell me you are serious.

Roux adds a fantastic flavor to gravy, especially if you toast the flour in the pan a bit before you add the butter.

Also cornstarch is shit. Arrowroot is objectively better in every single way
Neck yourself

>>12021116
I wouldnt expect you to understand this as a woman, but some people dont care about how much your feefees get hurt when your wrong.

>>12017065
Pho

>>12017065
>sous vide
>boiling water
???

>>12018460
>anon thinks I'm a man
And this is the problem. I make a rational statement and people assume I have a Y chromosome. Women can be rational, too, but only if society stops coddling them and they can get called out on dumb shit they do/say.

>>12018699
Anytime society has brainwashed a woman into believing she can never be wrong, any man telling her otherwise is 'mansplaining.'

>>12017065
Boiled noodles are considerably better than roasted noodles. As are soups and broths.