/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>another tipping thread
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>>11967484
Yeah, you're government minimum $2.14/hour. Now show us the $1,000+ in crumpled bills you've made in the last 2 weeks. Faggot. Half the people on this board have been servers. We know the income potential, especially if given the right shifts. I cleared 7k/month serving at a high end restaurant. My actual paycheck was like $20.

>>11967484
>Why don’t waiters and waitresses jus apply at other places?

lol. Of course we do... but the people who end up as career waiters do so by choice. The amount of untaxed tips we can earn is more than most starting engineers with a college degree.

It's actually one of the best paying jobs/careers for people who don't have any formal education or skills.

>>11967510
That's why I don't tip. They sometimes give me that look. You know the one. That's when I tell them, "you don't need it." Or at least I say it in my head and hope I convey the message with my eyes.

>>11967495
Hope you only reported half and kept the rest tax free :^)

>>11967510
Career waiter here. The only real limitation with that career crack (aside from becoming less attractive over time if you're a female) is that a lot of places where money is exchanged need to see proof of income, tax returns, that sort of thing.

So, if you are not good with money, then it's not the career for you. By that, I mean you need to be able to save money and not finance anything. Also, you can probably kiss getting a house via conventional means goodbye. I've heard of one guy that put down a 60% downpayment on a house and got accepted, but that's it.

Of course, if you're actually reporting your tips, then whatever. I've never known anyone that did. Honestly, that would be a huge headache to keep track of how much in my pocket came from where.

For the record, I have a degree in computer science but found serving to be enjoyable. I like the place, like the people, and the money is fine. I usually work 2 week days for 6 hours, then 12 hours on Friday and Saturday. It's around $1,200-1,800 a week but varies depending on the season and local schools being in sessions.

>>11967510
>The amount of untaxed tips we can earn is more than most starting engineers with a college degree.
as an engineer with two masters degrees, this is why I hate fucking unskilled, self entitled labor who think they deserve to make as much money as someone who has a real education and does real work.

here's your tip. handing people food is not a fucking career, much less one you should be "proud" of. It's a shit job anyone that's not retarded can do.

>>11967484
FoH is a low level rat race. They do nothing but bitch about getting the best shifts and how much money they're making, and if I didn't get tipped out most of the servers would make more than me working a few hours a night when I put in over 40 as a lead line cook. It's a disgusting system, but is easier for cute-ish young-ish girls than stripping. Nonetheless, until the system is changed you're an asshole if you don't tip (and not tipping isn't doing anything to change the system).

>>11967593
Entitlement aside, sometimes people just enjoy their work.

My best friend is a janitor. He cleans shit off the bathroom walls in a middle school. You know what he laments? That one day his back won't be able to handle the job anymore. He loves being able to just pop in his earbuds and not a single person says a word to him for 8 hours. He says it's his "zen" time away from a stressful home life. And that's a real job, real work, that the world needs done. So is food prep and food service. While specific demand varies by social class, the need exists all the same.

Some days I wish I had his job. But my wife would cut off my balls if I took a 40% pay cut.

>>11967605
Yeah, but he's not begging for tips and complaining when he doesn't get it. Liking a menial job is fine, even pretty cool sometimes. Demanding you get more than you're worth for doing it is obnoxious.

>>11967600
If bolted little lockboxes to the wall somewhere near the exit (or table, for that matter) for food prep staff tips, those little harlots would have to start sucking dick for coke again.

Speaking of, is it just me, or does every restaurant have 3 or 4 coke-heads on wait staff?

>>11967484
They literally just pruned a tipping thread. Goddamn it we know, /ck/ hates tipping. Just don't tip then and enjoy your testicle soiled salsa like every other NEET.

>>11967611
Very true. He had a fit when they made him join a union. Somehow their union negotiated that every employee in the school system be required to join it or be terminated.

>>11967593
I love when wageslaves get butthurt over people who are actually resourceful and self reliant. Why get mad? I grow legal recreational marijuana at home and clear $70k a year. I work literally 5 hours a week to make that money and in my free time i cook, read, take trips. A few times a month a do a consulting job that pays anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars depending on what i'm hired to do. I only report as much income as i need to to the government to keep the IRS happy so 2/3 of that goes untaxed.

>>11967605
I am also a janitor, it's honestly one of the more enjoyable jobs I've ever had, and because of my specific type of janitorial work, it pays the bills. I'm not going to get rich off of it. But I was able to get my own place and get a vehicle. Anybody that scoffs at you when you say you work in janitorial, goes back to their cubicle and dies a little more inside. I get to talk to great people, they really appreciate the work you do when you do a good job, and you can mix up your day anyway you like so it doesn't get monotonous. If it wasn't such a stigma in Western culture, the custodial business wouldn't be starving for help. We don't even interview most people. You can just call and they will ask if you want to start that day.

>>11967600
I have to ask, have you ever waited tables before? It's arguably one of the worst jobs I've ever had. Restaurant customers are some of the most rotten people I've ever come into contact with in my entire life. I would never go back to waiting tables ever again.

>>11967639
I run food when I need to, but no, I have legit low level autism. Have you ever worked the line?

>>11967653
Yes and they both suck horribly. But until you have a customer absolutely lose their shit because they asked for chicken gravy instead of beef you haven't experienced the horrors of waiting tables. I was a line cook for about a year and honestly I simply wasn't very good at it. I'm overly paranoid about food safety and it slows the whole kitchen down. Don't get me wrong, every restaurant has a couple of waitresses that don't have to do shit and get the best sections. But the grass definitely isn't greener on the other side. Restaurant work in general is fucking rotten. I would rather shovel shit than ever go back to it.

>>11967670
maybe if you gave the customer what they ordered instead of fucking it up they wouldn't have to treat you like a dipshit who can't remember "chicken gravy" from their notepad.

>>11967484
all servers are drug addicted single mothers.

>>11967600
> you're an asshole if you don't tip
Oh so it's gonna be another of these threads where Americans think everything works exactly the same elsewhere.

the service industry is kicking and screaming to not take away their tipping culture. bosses dont have to pay their staff, and girls can get paid well for just being a girl. Their excuse is that "we'd have tuh raise food prices!! is that what you want!!??" which is total bullshit. going out to eat is plenty expensive, they wouldnt HAVE to raise anything. Even if they did raise the prices on everything, Id still accept it. Im on the side that tipping is wrong now. It just encourages owners to hire people they hardly pay, and the staff can try to hide their cash tips and get themselves in trouble if someone wants to narc on them to the IRS. The whole thing is actually bad for customers too because you are encouraged to tip more and more all the time, youre even expected to tip a small amount for shitty service. If you dont tip knowing all this, you will get shit service if you ever go back to this place. its all around a load of bullshit, but how do we end the institution of tipping?

>>11967495
/thread

>>11967628
I want your job. :( but my country is fucked up.

Dutchie

>>11967711
>once again it's a retarded europoor/'strayan without basic reading comprehension
Why are you even talking about tipping if you don't live somewhere where there's a system of tipping in place, other than to just "hurr durr do americans really???"?"

>>11967615
I support this notion. But you'd still get the old rich guys handing big faces to the tarts

>>11967615
What's the lockbox for? There are these things called credit cards. That's how you pay for things now.

>>11967740
to tip the line cooks directly.

>>11967484
So that's about 5 hours of work for $7/h?

>>11967619
The only tip that scrot server is getting now comes from Big Tyrone.

We all know Americans tip, but at what sort of "restaurant" it starts?

Like for example, it says in this thread it's not done in McD's or such burger joints, but what about diners, and such, where the service is essentially bringing the food in? Can you get away without tipping anywhere if you don't have to pour your own drinks?

Differences between chain / independent?

>>11967495
seriously, this dumb dick in OP was probably blowing money like a dumbfuck and counting on his 2 week check.

>>11967901
If I'm being served(waiter brings food and drink to my table when asked) I tip.

If I'm not I don't.

>>11967495
>every restaurant is a high-end restaurant
are you motherfucking retarded?

>>11967901
This is a hard question to answer. Restaurants that special in dining-in won't even offer you the ability to get your own drink or food, unless it's a buffet. Though the buffet thing is a real gray area, as well, because you still have a server bring you your drinks and stuff

Fast food place like McDonalds have zero expectation of a tip since it's not specialized as a dine-in restaurant, although it does have seating. Some fast food restaurants will have you take a number and go sit down and they'll bring you your food, but you don't tip for that (and it's rare to find a place like that).

So basically just "fancy" restaurants, and you can't get away without doing the server's job yourself. You certaintly don't HAVE to tip, either. Especially if you're never going back there. You don't have to worry about them spitting in your food if you have no intention of returning.

If you want to see a real tragedy, go ask what the cooks make.

>>11968016
I served at Denny's for a summer I was in college and made enough to cover a $3,800 downpayment on a car. I can't remember the specifics. Only that I made that downpayment.

>>11968043
ask me how i know you're bad with money

>>11968186
Because I made rent, all my bills, and still had $3,800 to spare in college?

>>11968193
you blew all the money you had to spare financing a depreciating asset

>>11968204
Christ, you're a moron.

>>11968246
you talk like "making rent, all my bills" is some kind of grand accomplisment

>>11968250
In the US doing that debt free is a major accomplishment, moron.

>>11967714
>how do we end the institution of tipping?
by not tipping, and teaching your kids to not tip either.
you can't do anything about other people being chumps and throwing their money at waiters (who likely make more than they do)

>>11968260
financing a car is debt, moron

>>11967593
I don't think there's anything I relish more than engineers getting buttmad over pay. It's like, you fucking entered engineering because it's a fast track to money with an undergraduate degree. If you actually cared about getting "a real education" you would have done philosophy, math, literature, physics or other hard sciences, etc. But no, you wanted fast money, and now you're mad that a fucking waitress has "engineered" her way to a better income than you. I honestly would have expected an engineer to appreciate a person finding the simplest solution to the goal they want to achieve.

>>11968537
I'm an engineer and part of this is really really true

>>11968260
LMAO
No, it isn't.

>>11968260
woah. what kind of shithole do you live in? california?

>>11967670
>>11967639
Work sucks, welcome to earth. At least waiting tables isn't in hazardous conditions.

>>11967484
>imagine being forced to work the first shitty job you could get because you were born in a terrible shithole

>>11968552
>jingoism
t. Col Blimp

>>11968621
I can somewhat sympathize, but I have never waited tables and never will. theres always something else you can do. Id rather sell water bottles on the side of the road, or some other 3rd world level business that wait tables. There no excuse for guilt tripping others to pay your fucking salary.

>>11968537
but she didnt figure anything out or endure any schooling to be a waitress. She just showed up and got money. engineers dont just show up and get money.
And engineers do something useful, not take your food to your table and then bitch about their 5 dollar tip on facebook.

I have a relative that worked at a bar at "tubs". Basically she would serve beer bottles from a tub of ice instead of at the tap. No mixing, stirring or anything. She would sometimes make +$800 in tips a night. I have another relative that is a regular old bartender. He has 2 cars and a motorcycle all paid for at age 22. I have no sympathy for tipped workers.

>>11968662
>she didn't figure anything out or do anything useful
I don't know about that man. She figured out what her market demands, and then filled that niche. If her market will pay her better than starting engineer salary to wait tables correctly, then how can you argue she's not doing anything useful? Clearly the free market disagrees with you.
>engineers dont just show up and get money
If you don't know an engineer who has been paid for just showing up, then you don't know many engineers.

>>11968537

Are you autistic? How is engineering a fast track. They are functional members of society who create products and have practical skills. I really can't see the basis for your argument.

>>11967639
Thats how it is with every job where you work with public.

>>11968791
>create products
More like "implement", the creation is done by the design folk at the crayon eating department. They too get paid more.

t an engineer

>>11967634
This. I worked as a night janitor in my University days and I've done a bunch of "good" jobs in the 15 years since.
Not gonna lie, it was pretty sweet getting paid $20/h to lazily sweep and mop while listening to podcasts or music. No rush, shit just has to 'look' clean, no bosses telling at you, no-one else around, no paperwork, no deadlines.
Plus all the other janitors are usually 60yo+ retirees who are just looking for an extra couple of bucks.

>>11967484
>I’ve worked good service and that is simply not true.
If you didn't make a shit ton of money waiting tables, more than literally any other position of similar skill and responsibility level, then at least one of the following two statements is true:
>1. You were shit at your job.
>2. You worked at a shit place.

>>11967484
>be me
>work at a hardware store
>go out of my way to help customers as best I can and give them a great shopping experience
>carry their heavy shit like propane tanks and packets of laminate or tiles for them
>don't receive tips

>be waiter
>can't be arsed to even smile at the customers
>don't use pleasantries or recommend things
>literally just write down what the customer is saying and carry plates
>get annoyed when a customer asks for a special order
>slap down their plates in front of them
>regularly receive 20% of the order value in tips

I don't get tipping culture.

>>11968791
They've basically been spoonfed a bunch of applications for mathematical formulas. They often don't really understand them, and fail to apply necessary practical experience to the applications. There are some decent engineers out there, but so many fuck up a lot because they just don't understand how the real world differs from theory. But they expect high pay regardless.

>>11967484
no fucking kidding
there's absolutely no fucking way they only made that much working an 80 hour pay period
I literally made more than that much at a fucking Taco Bell, where accepting tips was strictly forbidden

>>11968537
As someone who also works at an engineering firm: Absolutely this.
>>11968791
stem degrees are seen as a sure bet, as fields with good jobs and abundant money. this is NOT hard to grasp

>>11967600
>not tipping isn't doing anything to change the system
the less I tip, the sooner the revolution comes
>oy just pay the poor working goils, goy
fuck you, merchant. the day of the rope will come for you soon enough

>>11967593
Where ITT do you see any waiters who are proud of living off of tip?

>>11968537
>literature

Fucking waiter fucks get more tips than me! It's not fair it's actually not fair!
I make the pizza, deliver the pizza, then get told to fuck off because I forgot their soda they didn't even order!

>>11969926
stay mad pizzacuck :^)

>>11967510
>the amount of untaced tips we can earn is more than most starting engineers with a college degree

You are so full of shit.
You will never see a waiter take home more than 200$ in tips max even on a busy night. If this were even remotely true then where are all these filthy rich waiters and waitresses at???
Why arent any of them living in mansions and have their college loans all paid off with this large tips you speak of??? Most waiters still live at jome with their mom and dad and some of them sleep in their fucking cars. But you expect me to believe they earn more than an engineer that.just graduated college...?
Fuck.
off.

t.actually work food service