/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11860197
damn so if I become a pescatarian I have almost a 1/5 chance to live forever?

>>11860197

Everyone's risk of death is 100%.

>>11860197
>vegans live longer
>except for pescatarians, they live the longest
vegans on suicide watch

>>11860197
>wanting to live longer

>the kind of vegan that lives the longest is the kind that eats dairy and meat

Just little things that make you go “Hmm...”

>>11860197
Good job anon. I'm really looking forward to the same 20 reposted photos of toothless vegans and dead-looking vegetarians.

yeah but i like meat

Sorry, misinformed Vegans. Restrictive diets that force you to eat only one type of food are never good for you.

> Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease

But it has the knock-on effect of boosting the production of arachidonic acid, which is linked to inflammatory disease and cancer. When coupled with a diet high in vegetable oils - such as sunflower oil - the mutated gene quickly turns fatty acids into dangerous arachidonic acid.

The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters, a finding that has puzzled doctors because eating red meat is known to raise the risk.

>>11860240
>The finding may help explain previous research which found vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters, a finding that has puzzled doctors because eating red meat is known to raise the risk.

Alot of boomer generation vegetarians are all cancer riddled now because they believed vegetarian diets are bulletproof. Sucks to be them...

>>11860262
>>11860240
You might want to take the name off if you samefag lol

>>11860197
How do you define "risk of death" exactly? Do vegans have a 15% chance to become immortal?

>>11860197
>eat fish
>vegetarian
k

>>11860292
Pescatarian is considered a subset of vegetarianism stemming from the old Christian belief that fish isn't meat and therefore can be eaten during lent

>>11860286
no they are immortal but theres a 15% chance they get shot by a nigger and die

>>11860240
>vegetarian populations are nearly 40 per cent more likely to suffer colorectal cancer than meat eaters

Really makes you think.

>>11860240
>>11860325
this is probably because fannydiddling is so common among their kind

>>11860197

>Vegetarians who eat fish

Well of course a liar would tell you they'll live longer

Well what's the change of dying for meat eaters?

>>11860212

>*compared to the standard American diet where 40% of the calories come from carbohydrates, most of those highly refined.

Gee, who would've thought not stuffing your face with highly processed foods would be good for you?

>>11860240

ANY type of diet that restricts you to only one food is shit. There is a good reason all the healthiest nations eat a "balanced diet."

>>11860197
Probably because ALL vegetarians are highly conscious of what they eat vs a small percentage of non-vegetarians. It's not that a vegetarian diet is better for you than one that includes actual protein, but more that eating big macs 5 meals/week will kill you.

>>11860347
100%

>>11860197
Ah I'm sure it's settled now that an image tells me how it is.

The only reason vegans die is because once all non-vegans are dead they have no one to tell about veganism

there has never been a study done that records the length of life of life long vegans vs non-vegans, let alone with a sample size large enough to make any conclusive findings

the only way to complete such a study would be to start today with 10,000 or more infants and follow them for the next 80+ years

Yea yeah yeah but happier? Don't think so.
VEGANS BTFO

>>11860220
yea, it's not more youth it's more Alzheimer's

My life has changed so much because this very reliable picture has told me this very true information.

All of these assumptions yet no proof. Interesting

>>11860197
>the longest living vegetarians are the ones who eat meat
Do vegetarians even realize they just BTFO themselves?

>tfw you want to be a pescatarian but it's fucking expensive
Maybe I should go all chicken and fish.

>>11860684
vegetarian are not vegan

>feed child exclusively vegetables
>almost dies

>B-BUT IT'S HEALTHY

I'm a strict carno-vegetarian

>>11860519
That's a pretty intense and unnecessary study, a smaller, age distributed study for ~20 years would probably give you all the necessary data.
But you are right in that there is a lot of trouble with studying diets, especially the long term effects of restricted diets. Not least of which is that dietary studies are often self reported. Another problem is, how do you determine exclusion for a diet? If a lifelong vegan gets drunk as fuck and eats a double cheeseburger, does that exclude them from the study, or is it small enough to be considered an outlier? If they regularly eat food which they wrongly consider to be vegan because it has egg products or milk products, does that exclude them?

But as we know, most 'veganist' ideology isn't about health or environmental best practice, but rather an internal purity complex. I'm basically ovo-lacto vegetarian and eat a high number of vegan meals, but I do it because it's cheap and I have the time to adequately cook beans and shit. I certainly don't think it makes me more spiritually 'clean' than the average diet.

>>11860704
The mom's vegan diet made her breast milk nutritionally deficient. They didn't give the babies almond milk, you tard.

>>11860704
The mom's vegan diet made her breast milk nutritionally deficient. They didn't give the baby almond milk, you tard.

>>11860733
It doesn’t say the specifics either way in the article

>>11860733
>veganism turns the optimal food for babies into poison

>>11860703
I am a Meat-eating Vegetarian

>>11860733
mhhhh change that goal post boy

>>11860827
It's only one type of meat, fish, and the elusive land fish known as capybara.

>>11860733
>breast milk
>20 months old
nigga...

>>11860925
You have a Youtube rabbit hole to go down

>Pescatarians, which are not vegetarian because they eat meat, actually live longest
OH NO NO NO indeed.

>>11860739
>>11860872
>>11860925
My bad, I was thinking of this article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/29/vegans-trial-death-baby-breast-milk

>>11860197
Wow, people who are more informed about the things they eat make healthier decisions. What an impressive surprise!

>>11860197
why do we all pretend like we care about longevity and not talk about quality of life or general wellbeing

most people who are vegan don't do it for longevity, they just do it because they get emotional about animals and they use statistics like this as evidence that it's "the superior way of living"

But honestly, is it better to die when you're 85 and blind with arthritic limbs and blood clots forming every day, or would you rather die in your mid sixties having enjoyed every day fully? I mean you can eat meat and still be perfectly healthy with calorie control and exercise. In this case what does longevity actually matter to you?

>>11860216
It's based on the okinawan diet which is 99% vegan. Fish eaten less than yearly in small portions.
So no, meatcucks still on suicide watch.

>>11860197
But two much larger studies found the opposite to be true. One of which was the longest, largest study on diet ever. Which one is true? How can science produce two conflicting results???

>>11860197
vegetarian > vegan. and lol at the one eating meat (fish) coming out on top.

>>11861370
>is it better to die when you're 85 and blind with arthritic limbs and blood clots forming every day, or would you rather die in your mid sixties having enjoyed every day fully?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

>>11860197
That guide shows the more animal products, the longer you live

>>11861401
Even by your insanely deceptive description of the Okinowans (who eat a lot of fish and pork, waaaaaaaay more than 1% of their diet is meat)

But even by your fraudulent, deceptive definition of Okinawans, that makes them omnivorous like me, NOT VEGAN LIKE YOU.

>Vegans use healthy meat eaters to promote Veganism, which must avoid ALL meat by definition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU [
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs [
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11861818
I'm not even a vegan but you're getting annoying spamming this shit and the same links all over /ck/

Fish is meat

>>11861865
>Doesn't complain about vegans spamming their bullshit.
>Complaints about me.

Vegans have a safe space, and it's called "not here" Here I will laugh at them, sorry.

>>11862049
you're both annoying and not engaging in any kind of productive discussion

>>11862916
Agreed. All the vegans should leave this shthole there is no productive discussion here.

falling for "percentage of something that will only happen once" meymey.
college drop outs aren't scientist no matter how they ensure you wikipedia has all they need.

>>11861401
>look at this imaginary definition that isn't in the study/ Obey it. My power trip demand it.

>vegans will get to enjoy 5 years more of being a husk of a human being, alzheimers, and needing another person to wipe your ass and feed you in the nursing home

Alright this is it, I've thrown all the meat in my fridge into the trash guys, wish me luck.

>>11861401
>any group that lives a long time must be vegan
Lol @ vegan delusions. Okinawans eat a lot of meat. Both supposedly mercury-laden seafood and supposedly heart -attack-inducing greasy pork belly. And spam, dear god the spam.
Pic related. It's a typical okinawan "vegan" dish.

>>11861865
>so healthy

>>11861865
who needs teeth anyway?

>>11861401
Here's another "vegan" okinawan dish.

>>11861401
Such a delicious looking vegan okinawan dish.

>>11861818
god Nigella is hot.

>>11861401
It's a damn shame okinawans eat meat. Imagine how healthy they could be if they were ethical vegans like pic related?

i dont want to live anyways

>>11861401
hmm, another okinawan dish. Not sure what those brown spam-looking slabs are, or that stuff that looks like eggs, but I'm told okinawans are vegan.

>>11863254

>>11863216
>>11863225
>>11863231
>>11863259
wierd. It appears that nearly every single photo that shows up under a search for "Okinawa dish" has eggs, seafood, pork belly, or spam in it. No doubt a damn carnist conspiracy to poison the search results.

>>11861865
>teeth are unethical

>>11861818

>>11861818
I agree that vegans are retarded, but your image doesn't prove anything. It's comparing a random ugly woman with a random hot woman and making the logical leap that the difference must be due to their diet.

>>11860240
Arachidonic acid does not cause cancer. It has been theorized that it may worsen some types of cancer in high doses, but there is no conclusive evidence of it. Its just an omega-3, and is used frequently as a bodybuilding supplement.

>>11860197
>"Has a 19% lower chance of death"
>death is 100% certain

I laugh at all the vegetarians who in reality just stop eating meat and sub with cheese, bread, and potatoes rather than actual healthy food. My friend does this and she looks sickly. Given you'd need to eat a hell of a lot of veges to compensate those calories and missing macros.

>>11860197
how much meat do i have to eat to decrease my chances at living?

>>11860197
What about against meat only eaters?

>>11864604
Just one

>vegetarians live longer
>average life exspectancy is 80 years
Ok retard

>>11860197
WHICH studies asshole??? Posting a pic doesn't substitute for science.

>>11860922
>the elusive land fish known as capybara
leave Will alone

>>11864652
Are you being serious?

>>11860197
>lower risk of death
kek

>>11863218
>she died doing what she loved
>telling everyone that she's a vegan

>>11860197
19% of pescos are immortal vampires.

>>11860197
Oh man I’m gonna get so much pussy when I’m 90!!!!

>>11861401
My family is from Okinawa. We ate meat a lot, especially fish/pork. It's a fucking island mate. I rarely met any vegetarians never the less vegans.

>>11861818
Why do people encourage colon cleanse? Your body already cleanses itself if you eat a variated, healthy diet.

>>11863174
Good luck and I hope dentists are not expensive in your country!!

>>11864712
Professor Gatis has the most in-depth research so far proving how healthy long term Veganism can be. Are you familiar with his work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11865057
I'm not familiar with this topic so I can't comment sorry.

>>11860240
Even if the conjecture is true, when they say long term they mean "across many generations". They conjecture evolutionary pressure for more efficient vegetarian absorption causes the higher rates.

We never have periods of starvation in the west any more, we don't have any evolutionary pressure in the same way Indians did.

>>11860197
looks cool. i've been vegan for just under two decades and have recently been eating fish a few times a year at special occasions.

still have all my teeth, full head of hair, smooth skin, great eyesight, and tons of energy with a good bmi. i eat a varied diet and cook everyday, being mindful of complete proteins and vitamin and mineral sources.

diet doesn't do everything. in blue zones one of the biggest factors is sense of worth and community. i have a great support system and almost no stress, fulfilling work, make more money than i can spend, regularly exercise, and do things i enjoy very much. if you pay even a little attention to your diet and just eat food that isn't processed or factory farmed, you'll thank yourself later.

>>11866065
oh, i'm also 42 and almost everyone my age is bald and fat with terrible skin, no energy, etc. i purify my water and air and live in a low voc house. just watch what you eat, do things you enjoy, and have good company around. it's not that complicated. if you're chugging down supplements and poisoning your body, what do you think is going to happen?

also if i can recommend one thing, stop being angry. it really makes life a lot more pleasant :)

>>11860197
Their life is longer but they get early onset dementia due to B12 and folate deficiencies.

>>11866917
Fuck off meatcuck

>>11860197
>(((studies))) show it’s hilarious to make the goyim eat insects

>>11861401
Okinawans eat meat or fish at every single meal. They probably eat five pounds of pork a week each and an equivalent amount of fish, they also suck down eggs like crazy.

What do you even think Okinawa food is? Are you confusing it with kaiseki?

>>11865319
Dude. The image is about "risk of death." If you take it seriously something has fucked up your brain.

>>11862916
>can’t we just wheedle away at you in peace?
>oh me? I’m not one of the vegan spammers
This board really needs IDs

>>11866065
>Someone who eats meat
>Who is very healthy

Nothing wrong with this picture. Probably a person who avoids most junk food and doesn't eat a lot of fast food, etc.

>>11866919
>Vegan tears

>>11867221
Maybe your brain is at risk if you don't see the rich possibilities for photoshopping all vegan propaganda images and memess. If you can do better than me please post them, I basically suck at it but at least I'm trying.

>>11864764
In all seriousness, no one cares that you'll live til 130. It's just you look younger for longer. (Often doesn't look like it for vegan diets)

>>11868702
>Vegan walking corpses looking young.

Bru I don't think so lol.

>>11868906
>D
>animal vitamin
just sit in the sun for a few minutes lol

>>11869560
Incels dont leave their basement

>>11860197
[Citation needed]