/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11844391
It's celery

>>11844391
Is methamphetamine a food?

>>11844391
You don't have to even eat food for that to happen. The body does that all by itself allready.

>>11844391
How do you substract by adding?

on second thought, spice your food with laxative.

>>11844391
They have, they're called Haribo Sugar Free Gummy Bears.

Dinitrophenol

>>11844391
that wouldn't be food by definition

>>11844391
>fat
There is a brand of pills called Alli that does that, but no one likes to recommend them because they make people (uncontrollably) shit fatty oil.

>>11844391
Just excercise you fat fuck. Yeah it's easy to stuff your face but try to step outside and go for a run for once, fat ass

>>11844391
eat some ice, dumb fucc

Hijacking thread with a question of my own.
Are zero-calorie foods called zero-calorie because they're a net loss when you consume them or because they actually have zero calories? Do they provide no energy benefit by eating them or what? Is rabbit considered a zero calorie food?

>>11844635
Forgot to add that I find it hard to believe that you gain absolutely nothing by eating or drinking something like diet cola and not have any calories in it at all.

>>11844638
well, it still has some water on it, so I guess you'd get hydrated
also caffeine and all sorts of other stuff are still there, just without the calories

>>11844647
Wouldn't the sugars and whatnot still have calories in them? Is the body simply not able to process anything in the drink and gets removed naturally? Been having these thoughts all week.

>>11844660
What sugars? It's diet cola, genius.

they had a fat used for frying food, esp potato chips, called Olean (aka olestra.) Was not absorbed by the body, so significant reduction in calories per unit. Problem was, if you are an Amerifat and eat a whole bag of Doritos at a time, that fat has to go somewhere. So fat fucks complaining about their runny shits ruined it for the rest of us. You deserve your sugarbeetees.

>>11844680
wait, i'm confused. what was the problem? that people's stool was loose?

>>11844661
Aspartame is a sweetener. May not technically be a sugar but that's what I mean.

I, for one, enjoy the occasional ass-piss.

>>11844695
that they would shit themselves after wolfing down a huge bag of chips in a single sitting

>>11844707
so the solution was to eat less of stuff prepared with that oil?

>>11844718
>americans
>eat less
that's a solid heh from me, friend
the solution was removing the product because they can't help themselves

>>11844391

Why don't you put down the chips and pick up a stick of celery, asshole?

>>11844728
fucking kek

Cocaine, duh.

its called battery acid

>>11844582
that shit will burn you up and make you ripped in a matter of weeks, if you survive

>>11844728
lmao googling it now
thank frend

>>11844697
The amount of aspartame needed to sweeten an entire bottle of cola is so small the calories are entirley negligible, something like 1kcal per liter.

>>11844759
Interesting.

>>11844750

>>11844888
based trips of sharting

>>11844718
the solution was to eat a serving size, not 12 serving sizes; the FDA really did the damage when they forced a warning label about “anal leakage” which they later withdrew

Starting in 1996, an FDA-mandated health warning label read "This Product Contains Olestra. Olestra may cause abdominal cramping and loose stools (anal leakage). Olestra inhibits the absorption of some vitamins and other nutrients. Vitamins A, D, E, and K have been added".[12]

These symptoms, normally occurring only by excessive consumption in a short period of time, are known as steatorrhea, and caused by an excess of fat in stool.

The FDA removed the warning requirement in 2003, as it had "conducted a scientific review of several post-market studies submitted by P&G, as well as adverse event reports submitted by P&G and the Center for Science in the Public Interest. The FDA concluded the label statement was no longer warranted".[13] The FDA also agreed with P&G that the "label statement could be misleading and cause consumers of olestra to attribute serious problems to olestra when this [was] unlikely to be the case".[9]

>>11844391
You could eat tapeworm eggs.

>>11844680
this is a medication called ali now
it makes you shit out the fat and it’s actually pure orange grease
i experimented with it once and shit 7 times in a day

>>11844925
>The FDA removed the warning requirement in 2003, as it had "received a large sum of funds submitted by P&G, as well as multiple smaller donations to various officials within the association".[13]

If you're going to be a massive limpwristed faggot, you might as well be an Anime poster at the same time.

>>11844397
^This. Diet pills are mostly just stimulants. if you eat stimulants your body will expend more energy i.e. "negative calories." No diarrhea inducers required.

>>11844391
Celery has negative calories if you chew it like cud forever.

Some of our fat is toxins and chemicals from shit food your body shoves in fat because fat is your body's dumpster until your liver can get to it.

To remove the fat there due to toxins that is that last bit of pudge people can't lose, you have to eat food that supports the liver:
>lemon (especially in morning) powerhouse for liver
>cilantro coriander if your a Eruofag powerhouse for liver
>cucumber high water content helps weight loss
>celery contains something that aids fat removal and high water
>romain lettuce high water helps weight loss
>papaya contains something that aids fat removal
>grapefruit contains something that aids fat removal
>beets + the greens supports helps lymph nodes flush out which is where crap the liver cleaneses goes. Eat after two week cleanse.
>cabbage high water content and has something that aids fat removal
>kiwi has something that aids fat removal.
>lemon grass. Great for liver and fat removal. A little goes a long way.
>almonds aid liver
>raw real honey. Great for liver before bed to aid cleanesing process while asleep
>fermented foods and broccoli will both make you crave more vegetables and see their flavor as more tolerable.

Mix all together except fruit, and drink for two weeks and tah dah, you'll see exactly how much fat was just toxic crap placed there because your liver was working over time.

Don't combine fruit with greens. Eat fruit in morning. Eat nuts on there own as a snack. Take small amount of honey before bed.

>>11844391
fat isn't dangerous. fat is an organ, it talks with your liver, it talks with your muscles, it talks with your brains. it is a part of your neuroendocrine system and the only thing standing between you and diabetes.

besides, humans that we see as very lean are still very fat when compared to other primates.

>>11844680
I miss these so much.
Another case of an amazingly wonderful product getting banned just because some extremely weak snowflakes couldn't handle it.
The proper response is not to ban a great product, but to ban the feeble and shitty people who couldn't handle it.

>>11845180
I also miss snacks that cause explosive oily diarrhea.

>>11844397
>Overdose
>Lose 40kg on 2 weeks

>>11844635
In modern science it might be properly studied.
But in my average knowledge i wouldn't know
Basically your body reacts to carbohydrates by doing a bunch of stuff. With aspartame, it still do some of that stuff.
Like: If you drank diet soda, would it ruin the Keto or wouldn't it?

>>11845325
>Basically your body reacts to carbohydrates by doing a bunch of stuff. With aspartame, it still do some of that stuff.
prove it
all commercial and government studies prove it doesnt

>>11845329
>>11845325
I've read that it's dietary use is not recommended because even if there's no sugar, the sweetness itself tells your body to start pumping insuline and goes overdrive into processing the sugar you never had, causing all sort of imbalances
don't have the source right now but it does make sense if you think about it

>>11845364
>don't have the source right now but it does make sense if you think about it
no it doesnt

>>11845374
welp, I went searching for the actual source and found that there are a lot of mentions to it not having any effect at all, so I guess I was wrong
all the info I find comes from shitty mom tip websites tho, no actual serious studies so far

>>11845329
>>11845364
Prove that a poorly understood mechanism in the body confuses the sweeter with Sugar, and then spikes Glucose because it think its sugar?
That is proven

The core of the issue is that for Aspartame, a Soda is going to contain 0,2-0,5% Aspartame
Where sugar soda usually contains 9-11% as sugar.
So if Aspartame gave you a 1:1 insulin spike, it would give 22-45 times less of a spike than sugar Soda.
But unless somebody has access to a journal and non questionnaire tests: We wouldn't know if this is significant enough to affect a Keto diet.

>>11845408
how about you go to wikipedia for links to government studies? or the fda? how old are you?

>>11845417
kill yourself momscience faggot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame#Safety_and_health_effects
Cancer & Health Risks - http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/aspartame 5
Metabolites of Aspartame - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23553132
C&EN What’s that Stuff - http://pubs.acs.org/cen/whatstuff/stuff/8225sweeteners.html 1
Toxicology Studies of Aspartame - https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/gmm_rpts/gmm1.pdf 1
Obesity - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/ 4
Methanol - http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/question5361.htm
Aspartame Sensitivity Myth - http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0116212 2
US Gov 2015 Evaluation of Research - http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015-scientific-report/14-appendix-E2/e2-41.asp 1
Methanol/Formaldehyde Relationship - http://www.andeal.org/topic.cfm?cat=4089
Long Term Study, No Changes - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2802896 3
Metabolism: http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/abstract/S1043-2760(13)00087-8 1
Microbes and Diabetes - http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature13793.html

>>11845420
I just googled and skimmed over the first few links, autismo maximo
you're really misjudging the amount of fucks I give about this discussion m8

>>11845433
You linked a bunch of shit like a complete faggot anon.
Why wouldn't you summarize and use key numbers or ratios?

I mean
Your ncbi.nlm.nih.go source states
>The excess of phenylalanine blocks the transport of important amino acids to the brain contributing to reduced levels of dopamine and serotonin.
>Astrocytes directly affect the transport of this amino acid and also indirectly by modulation of carriers in the endothelium.
>Aspartic acid at high concentrations is a toxin that causes hyperexcitability of neurons and is also a precursor of other excitatory amino acid - glutamates.
>Their excess in quantity and lack of astrocytic uptake induces excitotoxicity and leads to the degeneration of astrocytes and neurons.
>The methanol metabolites cause CNS depression, vision disorders and other symptoms leading ultimately to metabolic acidosis and coma. Astrocytes do not play a significant role in methanol poisoning due to a permanent consumption of large amounts of aspartame.
Meanwhile Aspartame is consumed at 1/30 to 1/50 the rate of sugar, dampening all side effects for temporary consumption.
On top of not mentioning how it affects glucose before its consumed.

>>11845478
>Why wouldn't you summarize and use key numbers or ratios?
because you made zero attempt to have a conversation
instead you barged in screaming your own emotional belief instead of referring to legitimate studies that have been done
and now you move from "uhhhhh i bet aspartame kicks you out of keto" to "uhhhhh look it makes you depressed!"
ignored

>>11845494
>Ignoring a anon
>On 4chan
>A Burkenese Starhat board

pro tip: the moment anon uses the term “toxins” you safely ignore whatever follows

see also: essential oils, chiropractic, homeopathy

>>11844391
In the '00s there was a fad about some sort of fat doing that, and a lot of margarine brands made the claim right on the container.

>>11844585
This. Food provides calories and nourishment. Eat stimulants, theyre all appetite suppressants. Caffeine, nicotine, amphetamine, methamphetamine. Cocaine is gay so that can be excluded.

>>11844391
For the same reason they haven't invented a standing wealchar

>>11845154
Excess fat IS dangerous, as it dilutes hormones beyond your endocrine system's capacity to compensate and puts strain on your cardiovascular system and joints.

>>11845532
Agreed with the other ones but a good chiropractor makes all the difference if you have past neck or back injuries. A chiropractor solved the chronic neck pain I had after falling on my head when skiing, with stretching and adjustments.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19587389/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/diet-pills-icky-side-effects-keep-users-honest/#.XFTNXc17mbg

>“(I)’ve pooped my pants 3 times today, and sorry to get descriptive but it even leaked onto the couch at one point!” writes one user.

>It can strike any time — even in the early hours of the morning. One user writes: “(Y)a know how when you start moving around in the morning ya pass a little gas. Well, I did and then went into the bathroom and to my horror I had an orange river of grease running down my leg.”

>>11846118
they have,
you god damned retarded millennial....

>>11845329
>>11845374

>compared with rats in the control group … animals consuming a diet sweetened with NNS responded with relative hyperglycemia when given a novel sweet-tasting test meal or a standard glucose tolerance test (24). Importantly, this altered glucoregulatory response to a glucose load, which was associated with reduced circulating levels of the incretin hormone glucagon like peptide-1 (GLP-1), was observed when the glucose load was given orally but not when glucose was infused directly into the stomach by gavage (i.e. bypassing oral taste stimulation) (24). That previous experience with NNS affected glucoregulatory responses to a glucose load when glucose was tasted, but not when directly released in the stomach, further supports their hypothesis that it is disruptions in learned responses elicited by tasting sweetness, not in post-absorptive consequences of consuming sugar, that is altering glucose homeostasis in this rodent model.
– https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4661066/

So, some of it is Pavlovian, but A). that's plausibly re-trainable (even because … ), and B). some sweetener is associated with actual benefits to glucose metabolism – stevia.

1/2

>>11846769
>Stevia preloads significantly lowered postprandial glucose levels compared to sucrose preloads (p < .01), and postprandial insulin levels compared to both aspartame and sucrose preloads (p < .05).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/

>This study also had a number of strengths. First, both lean and obese individuals were included, increasing the generalizability of these findings. Second, food intake was directly measured, and satiety measurements were taken at identical time intervals as blood glucose and insulin levels. Third, a pilot study was initially conducted to determine the appropriate gram and calorie amounts to provide in the preloads. Moreover, all preloads were matched for gram weight, and the aspartame and stevia preloads were matched for caloric content.

>In conclusion, participants did not compensate by eating more at either their lunch or dinner meal and (!)reported similar levels of satiety when they consumed lower calorie preloads containing stevia or aspartame than when they consumed higher calorie preloads containing sucrose(/!). Additionally, stevia preloads reduced postprandial blood glucose and insulin levels, suggesting (!)stevia may assist with glucose regulation(/!). (!)These effects appear to be independent of reductions in caloric intake, as participants consumed similar calorie amounts in both the stevia and aspartame conditions(/!).

>>11846716

Drink citrus Juice.

>>11846716
>Goliath online