/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>he puts the sauce on straight from the jar, just pouring it on, doesn't even mix it up
disgusting. he deserves to die.

>>11792475
Do americans really puke in the sink?

What retard holds his pen like this?

>>11792475
I eat food that's been in the fridge for a week or 2 sometimes. I see nothing wrong with it. You have to reheat it to a safe level though.

WTF
I just watched this video.
pretty damn cool.
I subbed.
I love the medical jargon.

>>11792641
no that's disgusting.

>>11792641
kitchen sink only, only savages would puke in a sink with no garbage disposal to liquidate the chunks

The Aspirin overdose contributed to the poisoning, but I'm not at all qualified to say whether he would have survived without or not - and the video doesn't say either.

>>11792475
>heating up plastic in the microwave

If you leave pasta out for two days it start to smell bad you gotta be a retard to eat it your body telling you this shit ain't right
Nigga also chugged a bottle of medicine like its nothing

>>11792777
It's impossible to tell, all we can say is that it played a part.

>>11792475
no it won't

i've done it frequently over the years and i'm fine


the student is a retard, it smelled bad, he reported it smelling bad

darwinism at its finest

If 5 day old food was deadly, all meal preppers would die. A world like that doesn't sound so bad, but it's not the one we live in.

How /ck/ will die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBpKuTrFrw

>Mild forms of this case are relatively common in incidence, but not common in this severity
it's literally just bad luck and then stupid decisions on his part

the retard left it out for two fucking days at room temperature
fridge it and you're fine

>>11792475
Some of the videos from that guy are pretty good but it also seems like the titles border on clickbait. I'm guessing it's about unrefrigerated pasta, most people know that leaving food out for almost a week will make it spoil.

>>11792954
Maybe they should.

>>11792673
left handed demons

>>11793715
You're right. It's clickbait because it's alarmist and misleading. It's not the fact it's five day old food, but because it was at room temp for two days. I'll throw food out if it was left overnight and should have been refrigerated because I don't want to fuck around

>>11792475
>left out for two days on a table/counter
>roommate puts it back into fridge unknowingly
>eats it 3 days later
>vomit and shits profusely
>downs a bottle of pepto(aspirin)
Gee, I wonder what could've caused the liver failure.
The real lesson here is to refrigerate your food correctly as a meal prepper and to not OD on aspirin, everyone should know that aspirin wrecks the liver. Do a sniff test and throw it away if it smells bad, even if that means missing a meal.
Hell, buy fucking packaged ramen as an back up if you need to.

>>11792475
this dude’s medical videos are actually pretty based.

>>11792777
Most people don't die from food poisoning unless they're very young/very old/already sick. The aspirin overdose is probably the main cause.

>>11792641
drunk ones do

>>11792673
lefties should die

anything hot left out like that will just become a hot bed for bacteria

>>11794086
fuck off /pol/

>>11792777
>>11793835
He specifically mentioned the aspirin in the video.

>>11794210
Yeah, in the later half of the video when he was dead and they were doing the autopsy, making it sound like it was the pasta just like OP is doing.
1) AJ's fault for eating dodgy food that he smelled leading to him ODing on pepto.
2) Roommate's fault for putting food back in the fridge and not showing the medics his room so they could've saw the bottle of pepto when looking for any medications before leaving wasting precious hours they spent on testing, testing, testing.

>>11794098
gave me a chuckle

>Tfw studied B. cereus genetics in undergrad
>Never wore gloves because I'm a dumbass
>Never got GI infection
>Didn't die
Get yeeted AJ.
Anyone has any questions/wants a quick rundown on B. cereus feel free to ask. I fucking love that organism

>>11794535
In that foods is it most common?
Is a fridge really all it takes to stop it multiplying to a dangerous number, what is a dangerous number?
Can I reduce the risk by lightly over salting my food, turning it into a fermentation?
Does vinegar stop the bacteria from producing the cereulide peptid?
How common is it in perpetual stews? Since a stew is always going to linger at around max 100c, will a stew ever be able to kill the bacteria preventing it from producing the dangerous peptide?

>>11794535
The dangerous thing is the ceruelide right?
The bacteria alone isnt that different to other bacterial infections that cause food poisoning?
It seems so overpowered that it can nearly insta kill the liver so easily

>>11793835

The real lesson here is don't chug a fucking bottle of pepto even if your tummy hurts.

Aspirin, motrin and tylenol ain't a joke, they are all taxing to the liver to begin with. Taking multiple times the amount of recommended dosage for that shit will kill you with liver failure with or without food poisoning.

He would have had slight liver damage if he just had the food poisoning.

He would have had slight liver damage if he just drank the pepto without the food poisoning.

He fucking killed himself combining the two.

Shit like this is why I don't take drugs unless I'm fucking dying and I'm told to by a doctor.

>>11793835
>>11796581
Plenty of people know that aspirin is hard on the liver.
I'd guess a lot fewer people know that pepto is related to aspirin.

I don't know where the pepto bismol shit from the video came from, this is the case study that the video is based off of. The guy didn't drink any medicine, he only drank water.

>On 1 October 2008, a 20-year-old man became sick after eating a meal of leftovers of spaghetti with tomato sauce, which had been prepared 5 days before and left in the kitchen at room temperature. After school, he warmed the spaghetti in the microwave oven. Immediately after eating, he left home for his sports activities, but he returned 30 min later because of headache, abdominal pain, and nausea. At his arrival, he vomited profusely for several hours and at midnight had two episodes of watery diarrhea. He did not receive any medication and drank only water. After midnight, he fell asleep. The next morning at 11:00 AM, his parents were worried because he did not get up. When they went to his room, they found him dead.

The source is even referenced in the fucking video description.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3232990/

>>11792641
I do when I’m fucked up otherwise I’ll go outside or use the toilet

>>11792475
>it's another "took a whole bottle of XYZ" episode

>>11792641
>non-americans don't have garbage disposals
sad!

>>11793003
>brain on soy
>deenz
>gubbernmint poisoning
>read about cure on the internets
wew

>>11792475
a week is fine depending on the food

2 weeks is pushing it though. never leave food out for 24 hours and then refrigerate it and eat it though.

videos like this make me queasy. i just imagine all this shit happening to my body and it makes me ill. i could never be a doctor.

>>11796679
i didn't realize aspirin was bad for your liver. i know that acetaminophen (tylenol) overdose can cause liver failure though. i work as an addiction counselor and i see a ton of people with bad livers because they popped painkillers mixed with tylenol like candy not realizing it would fuck up their livers.

>>11792777
>financially crippled by student loans to the point of having to eat 5 day old pasta
>drinks a whole bottle of pepto-bismol, presumably because he can't afford a doctor's visit
oh say, can you see!

>>11797573
Aspirin isn't bad for the liver in fact there are studies that indicate it can help fight liver disease, as a simple google "is aspirin bad for the liver" indicates.

>>11797677
thanks i didn't think it was but i didn't care enough to search google for it. perhaps the original poster that stated that was confusing it with tylenol.

>>11797645
>presumably because he can't afford a doctor's visit
I really don't think that's a valid excuse to down an entire bottle of aspirine.

>>11792475
>be so weak that food poisoning almost kills you
do americans really? last time i got food poisoning, i vomited my guts out then went to work a 16 hour shift.

>>11796679
i had no idea what was in pepto until this video. it was just pink tummy juice

Our boy Steve must be immortal then

>>11797809
He only eats a diet of the finest instant coffee type II, vietnam war tar-black lemonade, world war 2 sweets, world war 1 powdered beef and american civil war crackers.

>>11797687
He probably was, that kind of thing isn't uncommon here.

>>11793003
I can take a guess

>>11795598
Since it's normally soil dwelling you'll often see spores in grains, especially rice, but spores are fucking hardy so it's nearly ubiquitous. There's a concept in host-pathogen interactions called an MID, which basically is the number of bacteria you need to get to get a GI infection, it can really variate by the strain/your immune system/etc., but generally you're diagnosed with B cereus if a sample of the food you ate has more than 10^5 organisms. Refrigeration slows down metabolic processes, so they can't replicate as fast, however, they can still replicate (hence why your food and milk still goes sour over time). As for your other questions, I'm not totally sure, my guess would be a salty environment would just allow other microbes to outcompete B cereus. Toxins are typically very stable, so I doubt a weak acid like vinegar would affect the ability to make and secrete toxins. As for stews, B cereus produces toxins between a temperature of 10-43 C, as long as you're outside that range, no toxins should be produced and they will likely die of heat shock over prolonged exposure (the spores will survive though, allowing the cycle to continue).

Not sure if I need to disclaim this but I'm a PhD student, not an MD student, so take some of that advice with a grain of salt

>>11795606
It depends on the type of B cereus infection you have. You either contract diarrheal syndrome, which is caused by at least 3 toxins (hemolysin BL, Nhe, and cytotoxin K); or you contract emetic syndrome which is mainly caused cereulin fucking up your mitochondria as the video mentioned. Most infections are pretty mild, you either get the grumpy dumpies for a day or two with diarrheal or you vomit for a few hours with emetic. Where this guy fucked up was downing a whole bunch of pepto bismol alongside the B cereus infection, which really fucked up his liver which is normally not significantly affected by a B cereus infection.

>>11793840
used to know the guy before he made medical videos when he was a streamer, a really cool guy too

>>11798258
He seems pretty cool, he definitely has an affinity for science/medical communication. He's even better than some of my grad school profs

>>11798289
you do know he was an actual doctor and still is right?

>>11798338
I figured he was in late med school at a minimum, I'd definitely want him as a lecturer or even general physician

>>11798347
you should watch some of his earlier videos
the fitness and cooking ones, not in the same style as the new medical ones but they can give a good chuckle and heaps of good information.

i'll EAT
WHAT I
WANT

>>11792475
>eating things that smell off

Got what he deserved.

I eat week old chili left out on the counter with no refrigeration without fear because I trust my nose.

>>11792475
>watch entire video
>half the reason his liver died was because he drank a bottle of stomach medicine with aspirin.

I don't know what to make of it. It doesn't say one or the other would've killed him but the combination didn't help.

>>11792673
Nothing compared to chris chan.

>>11792701
This guy is fucking anoying.
watch his elliot rodger style car vlogs

>>11792475
Bernard is so cute hnnng

>>11798443
you will love his lifting vids

>>11798458
I've seen it. He was thicc asf

>>11798393
don't trust your nose actually, trust god

>>11792641
only in dire circumstances. otherwise toilet or the bushes outside

>>11792641
How do Germans puke in their weird toilets?

>>11792475
Good thing I don't really like pasta.

>>11792934
I did and I died. So that's now two out of three who died.

>>11793835
>everyone should know that aspirin wrecks the liver.
And use paracetamol instead?

>A Boy Ate 3 Laundry Pods. This Is What Happened To His Lungs
Madman

>>11792641
my dad puked in the sink on new year's and the bathroom is fucking unusable from the stench 3 weeks later.
I swear to god it smells like rotten fish whenever you run the water, fuck.