/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>"I'm a vegan"
>eats fish and seafood

Unironically this
I can understand veganism but why is most the shit you're willing to eat stuff that is supposed to be like stuff you can't.
It's like being into traps exclusively
You won't have women or men so you choose a substitute

>"I'm a vegan!"
>spends $70 on protein supplements

>>11769945
>I can understand veganism but why is most the shit you're willing to eat stuff that is supposed to be like stuff you can't.
because 99% of them don't go vegan because they don't dislike the food, but for moral reasons. a lot of them will say they like the taste of meat but can't eat it without feeling bad or guilty. it's understandable when you see how modern farming has changed and the way some people treat animals. i don't agree with it, i eat meat, but i still want lab-grown meat to improve and become availabel in stores.

>>11769926
>I'm a vegan!
>healthier than most
>less likely to be fat
>more environmentally friendly
>clean conscience, not a murderer

>>11769985
Meatcucks wish they were this healthy!

>>11769984
I think a lot, not all but many, vegans have legitimate mental illness regarding food. The concept of food itself messes with their heads and they don't like the act of eating. Vegetarianism, even vegetarians who are 'vegan' most of the time, is legitimate... but identitarian veganism is the intersection of political radicalism and eating disorder.

>>11769985
>...and twice as likely to go to the ER and twice as likely to be diagnosed with depression or other mental illnesses

Absolutely fucking obsessed. Living rent free in your brain.

>I'm a vegan!
>Doesn't have a cheat day once a week where he eats as much meat and animal products as he wants

>>11769926
>Will not actually commit murder, for ethical reasons
>Is willing to pretend murder
Wow vegans so illogical right

>>11769985
Considering there's like a ratio of 1 million : 1 at minimum I would also say less vegans have died compared to meat eaters to pad those numbers.

>>11769985
>healthier than most
>take twice as many sick days
so healthy

>>11770260
Face it, vegans are as big a bunch of hypocrites as gamers who refuse to murder, or guys who jerk off to anime but refuse to bang club sluts because it's "degenerate".

>>11769926
>I'm a VegAN
>adds an interrogative upspoken tone to the word "vegan"

>>11770452
>>11769991
Not all vegans are anorexic.
Nice logical fallacy though.
Antivegans are all low IQ.
BECAUSE YOU ARE, that makes all meatcucks stupid. Well done snowflake.

>>11769984
ok but meat and dairy subs are bad for you

>>11771613
>Posts some pro-vegan bullshit.
>Someone posts an actual vegan
>Veganism dies

Sorry Veganism activist. The "epitome" series destroyed Veganism. It is now universally understood that Veganism is a left-wing starvation cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

>>11769926
>I'm a faggot
>Entire post is green meme words

>>11769926
>>11769940
>>11769975
>>11769945
>I can understand veganism
>>11770052
>I think a lot, not all but many, vegans have legitimate mental illness regarding food. The concept of food itself messes with their heads
>>11770232
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

>>11770052
Wow dude you're so smart and funny and cool, I bet your fedora is really stylish too

>>11771613
>Not all vegans are anorexic
true. most are paragons of health and vigor.

>>11769926
so if i took a knife to a pigs stomach, would I see A nicely packaged snags and precut bacon or B a fuckload of blood and fat and gross shit? seems strange that other than steak, meat alts are made simply because burgers are a convenient shape for bread, sausages are also ect ect. Theres white teenage girls who end up only eating salads and become walking skeletons as a 90kg 200cm vegan for 4~years i seem to be doing pretty good

>>11772146
Thank God someone drew a red arrow pointing at the part I'm supposed to notice.

>>11769926
also as far as milk and cheese and more 'complimentary foods'go, is that not just a reciprocal trend of wanting to stuff our foods with melty cheese or enjoy milkshakes as they bring us joy? Wether a homage to growing up or just wanting something inside our food that is a fun texture that isnt a derivative of an animal

so, this happened
>walk around town
>notice two dudes and a girl in Anonymous masks
>the dude holds some kind of screen in his hand, trying to show something to those walking by
>get closer
>they are playing those bloody_slaughter_house.mp4s on repeat
>they are actual vegan proselytizers, asking people to "debate them" on the streets
So who do you call when your city has a vegangelist problem?

>>11772215
well, what would you say anon?

>vegan has dog
>feeds it bananas and shit
>"He doesn't need meat."
>look into the dog's eyes

>>11772225
"Get fucked, you bourgeois moralist scum?"

>>11772146
>"key to well being"
Fucking KEK, so much for the well being of his teeth.

>>11772228
inhumane and bad, dogs need bone marrow for their protien and oral health, but are able to live in cooperative with that as well as a varying amount of cooked root veggies, beanz and rice.

>>11772232
Say, if the weird mask folk wern't there. And instead you watched the videos without external context or people campaigning ect. would you watch the video?

>>11769926
I go vegan twice a year for religious reasons (eat meat enthusastically the rest of the time) and honestly actual vegan food made from whole plants isn't even bad. Mushroom swedish meatballs with Cashew cream sauce is one such example: savory, healthy, and satisfying.

Boca(TM) ZOGchow is absolutely horrible and is proof that most vegans are so fucking bad at cooking they just decided it's not even worth it to touch anything worthwhile like meat.

>>11769985
>less likely to be fat
That's not really a plus when the other extreme of being so thin is so prevalent in the vegan community.

>>11772215
>>>/k/

>>11772146
>Arnold Kauffman.

Guy is an old school vegan legend. Vegan parents send their teen girls to his vegan store (or cult) to intern with the master, and he gropes the broccoli out of them, it's cringe off the charts level, with his zombie teeth lol. Gaia only knows what he does when the cameras are off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0VZkmDnRa0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU

>>11772245
I already saw some videos, like the majority of people who spend time online. You can not watch things "without external context" because the concrete world is just that, a big context, the social world, a big ass context.

My main problem with vegans is that they take a structural issue (our economic system whose only motivation is profit making) and instead of tackling it as such, they transform it into an ethical question, with the usual moral blackmail involved:
>What do YOU do for animmuls?
>How can you EAT MURDER?

This is the typical postmodern attitude of most of the people under late capitalism: "we have systemic crises? Let's consume better!"

"There's an African warlord raping children? Buy KONY T-shirts! Indian kids have no shoes? Buy Nike, where included in the price is a small donation to said kids."

Those horrid vids are 9 out of 10 times from America where they have literal feces sprinkling farm factories ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayGJ1YSfDXs ) or from some third world country. Modern regulations in the EU, for instance, are pretty effective at combating animal mistreatment, to the absurd point where a fucking goose has a comfier life and death than the average working class person.

So yeah, "Get fucked, you bourgeois moralist scum." Either dare to tackle the causes of your problem (the profit motive makes factory owners want to squeeze production to the max, boxing in animals to smaller and smaller cubes) or shut the fuck up.

BTW, we are omnivores. Your biological makeup literally requires you to eat meat or your body starts malfunctioning.

>>11772245
Why would any sane person want to watch torture and Murder porn? This type of 'film' is made by and for diseased minds, ie vegans, or left wing radical NPC vegan cultists. I don't have any interest in torture porn or any other left wing degeneracy.

>>11772235
Let's be honest, anon. That's just meth.

>>11772239
>feed carnivores beans and rice
This should be punishable by law.

>>11772286
This is the other thing. Those anoonoomous kids showing murder porn on the street is peak perverse exhibitionism. It's like that weird lonely grandpa that goes around schools in a big ass coat, flashing his dick to children. Oh, but "IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE!"

>>11772264
>Gaia
Miss me with that new age bullshit. Nature is a heartless beast, not some hippy beauty goddess.

>>11769985
friend of mine is vegan and is extremely skinny and has low muscle mass. He has been working out a lot though so I guess that helps keep him standing

>>11772308
The vegan torture porn should be illegal to make or show anywhere, especially to children, who are exactly who (((they))) show it to. These Veganism propagandists are literally traumatizing young 11 and 12 year old girls with death porn and torture porn and it's not illegal??? Beam me up Scotty.

(This was also fortold in 1 Timothy 4)

>>11772352
>(((;)))
hurr
>1 Timothy 4
durr

>>11772341
Vegans go depressed due to vitamin deficiencies. Some try to tackle the problem by taking in overdosed amounts of vitamins (also not good for you), not realizing that some vitamins are fat-soluble only, meaning that if you don't take in fat your body can't use the vitamin and you just piss it out.

Hey, but it's natural, riiite?

>>11772286
>>11772308
>>11772352
>the right implements, subsidizes and promotes factory farming of animals which uses torture and cruelty by definition and pretends it's not happening
>the left calls them out by documentjng the torture and abuse
>th-the left are the demented perverts for bringing it to the attention of the public, not us for doing the torture and trying to hide it
The absolute state!

>>11772365
>Babbies first adhom.

Watch this video it's literally you lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z3zO6KC920

>>11772341
long-term vegans either look like concentration camp survivors, or are skinnyfat with very little muscle mass but enough fat to make them look normal-ish at the cost of a body fat percentage that is comparable to an extremely obese person. they think this is "healthy", though since they also think tooth and hair loss and skin problems are also "healthy" and intestinal-parasite-ridden is "normal" and "healthy" they can't really be said to have a firm grasp on reality.

>>11772400
uhhh 100% of the huge industrial scale Auschwitz factory farms are owned and run by leftists just like you, bro (Monsanto, Gillette, Jewgle, Jewtube, Fapple) name the corporation, and except for chick filet, 100% leftists, so just look in a mirror and make your rants at yourself lol.

>>11772372
>Vegans go depressed due to vitamin deficiencies.
Which is the main reason why these ghouls keep emphasizing how HAPPY and HEALTHY they are. They are in constant denial and justify this inwardly with moralism (I'm a better person than most because I don't eat animals that were kill) outwardly with this fake-it-till-you-make it projection shit.

Hence, a vegan group consists of individuals who are secretly convinced that they are better than everyone else while constantly reassuring each other with "LOOK AT HOW HEALTHY WE ARE *teeth falls out* DID YOU LOSE SOME WEIGHT *contemplates suicide due to depression* I HAVEN'T EATEN A CRUELLY KILLED DEAD ANIMAL IN 4 YEARS!"

My favorite example of a sect leader is John Sakars. He basically uses veganism as an alibi for dating.

>>11772408
And this insane living skeleton is evidently their leader lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgzTwjSP0Hk

>>11772400
Stop calling yourself "left" you deranged liberal. You are literally on the right-wing of the political compass. The "left" is about workers, unions, worker rights, class struggle, anti-capitalism, not about your shitty identity- and consumer politics.

Go back to your Hillary fan group on Facebook.

>>11772402
Why is every 3+ years vegan an anorexic ghoul with dead eyes? It's horrible.

>>11772422
Jon Saker is a trailblazer. He has founded the school of vegan cringe. He is posting this unwatchable cringe on purpose, for the clicks? Because he is a Degenerate? Very disturbing stuff, to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4

>>11772443
Leave Johnathan Sakur alone. He is a trash hero. He dindu nuffin wronk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpL2tFnYlQw

>>11772481
>>11772422
>He basically uses veganism as an alibi for dating

It can't be coincidence that most vegans I've come to know are legitimately mentally slow. Not retarded, but it honestly seems like their brains aren't functioning as fast as the average person's. There are obviously exceptions, but I've considered it worth noting.

>>11769985
>yeah I'm ethical and environmental
>sure these coffee beans came from a third world country where people are paid for cents a day and DeForest land to grow crops for food and are exploited by their government for trade, but im going to omit any facts that there's negatives to what I do and think that all of the things I eat come from hoke grown local farmers that live in nice houses and keep cows in beds made of silk simply and never eat any of their livestock because I need to feel superior.

>dude I know is a typical Western Buddhist
>vegan
>gets married to another Buddhist
>they procreate (not for pleasure, mind you, that would be a sin)
>they have two kids
>the kids "have chosen not to eat meat," naturally
>grandpa of kids keeps begging the parents to feed them meat
>kids need meat for proper brain development
>they would rather have clinically dumb kids than hurt the animals
>finally the shit is resolved after the kids tried out chicken at their friend's house
>the kids, now corrupted with meat-eaterism, regularly ask mommy to make chicken, and she sadly complies
Imagine that fucking buddhist freak having to work with the raw chicken meat. I smile every time.

>>11772504
And since these people usually don't give a shit about the humans that harvest their food... don't forget all of the animals and insects that are massacred to keep those precious vegetables safe until harvest. Or the amount of animals whos homes were destroyed to make room for the farmland in the first place. There is no food that is "cruelty free".

>>11772504
We should be open out this shit, no? We should have two versions of every product: the regular kind and the "I'm better than the rest of you" kind. The latter doesn't add anything in value, doesn't donate to any cause, just has this nice certificate on it stating how awesome you are.

>>11772439
Lol did my comment get deleted??? I just posted a kvelling insane feminist witch vegan, why would anyone deleted that lol??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z3zO6KC920

(Why veganites eyes are dead?? I can only guess it's because they have surrendered to demonic influences and lost their souls)

>>11772520
A vegan I worked with loved those little bite-sized pecan pies from the convenience store. I watched him eat them every day for over a decade, then the day I quit that job I told him they were full of lard. the expression when he checked the ingredient list was priceless.

>>11772534
You forgot the part where the "I'm better than you" price is 40%~60% higher.

>>11772574
Oh, I thought it went without saying. Yes. It should be considerably more expensive. You are buying the experience of superiority, of course it has to have a luxurious price tag.

>>11772572
Why, anon? Now he'll lose his only source of animal fat. Now his body won't be able to use fat-soluble vitamins. Did you hate him or something?

Imagine how much of a fucking loser you have to be to get triggered by vegetables lmao

>>11772639
It’s always the mentally ill bible thumpers. They just project their own insecurities.

>>11772639
Oh, I love vegetables. I also love meat.

>>11772673
>only bible thumpers oppose vegetarianism
What were you saying about those insecurities being projected?

>>11772680
>no you’re insecure
I haven’t met someone who was genuinely anti vegan that wasn’t some institutionalized christfag.

>>11772733
Nice to meet you anon. I'm an atheist and I took biology 101 classes. Not eating meat is a really bad idea for an omnivore. Spreading unscientific propaganda and corrupting people to join your deranged and unhealthy lifestyle isn't just plain evil, its bad for society and it should be punished by law.

>inb4
And I'm not a right winger, either.

>>11772759
>biology 101 classes
Falwell's Liberty University, I presume?

>>11772807
>only christian rednecks attack my superior ideology
Whatever protects your fragile ego and justifies you not replying to the tons of criticisms in this thread...

>>11772759
How convenient /s/

At least try

How is vegan pussy?
I've gone on 2 dates with a vegan girl in the past week. I'm hoping to fuck her on friday.

>>11771854
How is almond milk worse for you than cow milk, which is loaded with hormones and pus?

>>11772825
>responding to a bunch of frenzied christfags squealing
That hasn’t been fun for a while

>>11772842
don't stick your dick in crazy, anon.

>>11772842
You know how humans usually eat herbivores because they taste better than carnivores? Cattle, poultry, etc. A vegan pussy wouls probably be far more delicious than that of a roastie who eats meat.

>>11772853
It's worst for the environment, to begin with. It's ridiculously unsustainable. Regular milk isn't great either, tho. Causes calcium deficiency.

>>11772867
This.

>>11772842
bring dental floss

>im vegan
>still supports industries that fuck up animals
soy directly destroyed the amazon
almonds need an industrial supply of bees
im sure theres more

>>11772892
>soy directly destroyed the Amazon
For feedlot....

>>11772867
>>11772875
I have no choice anons. I wish I did but this must be done for science if nothing else.

>>11772872
This is what I was thinking honestly

>>11772875
Who cares about the environment when we are talking about a person's health when consuming the product? Actually, producing meat and animal products is far more expensive, resource intensive, and unsustainable than vegan products in general.

>>11772872
unfortunately not. they eat broccoli and asparagus and kale, they smell as bad as curryniggers.

>>11772892
The pesticide and fertilizer required for industry scale farming is totally unsustainable, destroying wast territories. Vegans like to bring up the cow fart thing, but the fact is, no matter what, capitalism is going to kill us all.

>>11772907
Good luck. If her pussy stinks of onions, just pop in a Knorr stock pot, that will even out the taste.

>>11772915
>Who cares about the environment when we are talking about a person's health
We are in the process of turning Earth into the next Venus, having pretty... pretty... serous... effects on one's health.

>producing meat and animal products is far more expensive, resource intensive, and unsustainable than vegan products in general
t. vegan science
The actual fact is: everything is unsustainable under capitalism. Industry farming uses up arable land in 10 years -- what other methods would take hundreds. Your idiotic "ethical consumption" has zero - Z E R O - effect on how our world will end up. We either get rid of capitalism and its profit motive, or we'll all fucking die.

>>11772872
Holy shit. Never thought about it like that before. I think you convinced me to support people becoming vegan if we can cook "with" them. ;")

>>11772919
>>11772940
>ignore all actual issues folks!!!

>>11772919
12/10 post

>>11770052
Anon how do you manage to write so much but at the same time say nothing?

>>11772951
>I will end systemic crises by being a clever consumer

>>11772957
>la la la i can't hear you
the post

>>11772959
>cow fart good when leninist
Zzzz

5/10 for the reply.

>>11772970
>I will eat myself out of the environmental catastrophe that is caused by an economic system

>>11772981
This will get some lesser trained minds. I’d recommend testing this out on /pol/ people will eat this up.

>>11772986
Tell us about your brilliant B12, A, K, E, D vitamin and iron deficient mind, anon.

>>11772940
Fuck off, commie scum. Do you think people in Cuba are dinning like kings? They freaking have to eat catfish from the sewers.

>>11773019
I gave your mom a nice dose of Vitamin D

>>11773050
im suprised you got it up with a 15ng/dl test count

>>11773038
They are living quite alright considering the embargo the US has been raping them with for decades. Also: they have a pretty green economy.
https://www.greeneconomycoalition.org/news-analysis/the-guerrilla-gardeners-of-havana

Fun fact: if the world would adopt the Cuban economic model we'd avert total ecological collapse.

>>11773050
Good thing she's morbidly obese then, since vitamin D is fat-soluble only.

>>11773058

>>11773058
Is that right?

>>11773073
well its a shitpost but the point is correct

Mean serum insulin-like growth factor-I was 9% lower in 233 vegan men than in 226 meat-eaters and 237 vegetarians (P = 0.002). Vegans had higher testosterone levels than vegetarians and meat-eaters, but this was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin, and there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone, androstanediol glucuronide or luteinizing hormone.

>Have you SEEN these horrible videos killing animals to end up in your food?
>yup
>How can you keep eating meat then?
>watch me

>>11769926
I can have drumsticks and not feel guilty about it being a dead animal that once had feelings.

you carnists belong in hell.

>>11773073
>so much testosterone

>>11773197
god said its ok to eat meat and even gave special rules for its preparation.

>>11773197
>tofu on a stick
>stick
you murdered a 1000-yr-old tree for that little stick of delusion.

>>11773197
What the FUCK is that, but more importantly what the ABSOLUTE FUCK is hanging out from them?

>>11773202
oh yeag? god also invented veganism

checkmate atheists

>>11773200
This soy bullshit has been long debunked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU

>>11773202
>GRONK DO WHAT SKY KING SAYS

>>11773205
Ah, a stick. Absolutely disgusting. Doesn't that basically suck out much of the flavor while cooking? (Not that tofu had much of that to begin with.)

>>11773218
>god also invented veganism
>veganism kills the weak minded atheists
based god

>>11773320
Most vegans I know are religious.

>>11773378
veganism is a death cult.

>>11769926
>"I'm a vegan!"
>Doesn't take every possible opportunity to loudly preach the horror of animal farms

>>11769926
No sense in suffering more than necessary for your stupid fad diet

>>11773388
>veganism is a death cult
Oooh fuck, this is too good.

>>11773394
its not important that you wear a hair shirt and flog yourself for your religion, its important that people think you do.

>>11773393
>non-evangelizing vegan
That's an oxymoron. They contracted the mind virus because they were predisposed towards it. After they are infected, they can not but spread the virus further.

It's their morals, you see. They are superior.

>>11773443
>trump voter humor
Yikes

>>11769926
>be vegan for 7 years
>don't drink alcohol, don't smoke cigarettes, don't drink coffee
>exercise 4 days a week
>diet consists of whole foods; grain/legumes/pasta/bread/fruits/vegetables
>make smoothies almost every morning
>in these 7 years of being vegan, i've probably only been to the doctors for maybe ~times
>feel great, not malnourished, not underweight, have muscle mass, actually have loose skin from losing tons of weight
>had depression, though that was there even before being vegan. went away as i became loyal to my diet and exercise
>feels great

I don't understand all the lies being pushed on here about veganism but most of them aren't true. Just make sure you really research everything so you don't fall victim to easily avoidable troubles.

God bless you all.

>>11773465
* ~15-20 times

>>11773467
kek

> "I'm vegan!"
> Consumes vitamin B12 supplements made with bacteria harvested from cow intestines

>>11773477
I'm a vegan and this is not a problem. The cow was not hurt when we borrowed just a few bacteria from his intestines. The problem is only when their feelings get hurt for the animals or when he gets killed.

Just borrowing things from animals is okay. They can't consent like you and I - true - but they get food in exchange for their service.

>>11773477
Synthetic cyanocobalamin is just bacteria. It’s not derived from anything in particular

>>11773475
most were because of physicals and labwork stuff. I don't get sick anymore, other than a stuffy nose or sore throat.

>been vegan for 15 years
>have so many muscles don't know where to put them
>the last time food has touched my lips was the last time I was sick or depressed
>I'm full of energy all the time, no more need for coffee
>my poops smells like perfüme
>I actually tasted it, it's actually tasting pretty good
>turns out you can eat your food if you are a vegan
>start eating my food regularly
>I save a lot by eating my own food
>I have more money now to socialize, go to movies, buy gf gifts
>just thinking about my vegon poop makes my mouth water

>>11773495
Dude, I'm at the doctor once 5 years.

>>11773522
You’re not getting physicals or lab work.

>>11773465
This. I've only been gaining weight on a vegan diet. I used to be underweight.

yooooo

>>11772875
Fucking retard, for all the shit about how almonds take a ton of water, cows take 10x the water that almonds do. You know the cows have to fucking eat too, right? And the food the cows eat has to be grown?

>>11773568
grass just grows tho

>>11773522
The point i'm making is that the reasons why I did go to the doctors back then was due to things that didn't relate to illnesses. The last time I went to the doctors was 2 years ago and it was due to indigestion, and the doctor tried prescribing me cough medicine. Prior to that it had been very seldom. Looking back, I heavily exaggerated over the 15-20 times. It was way less than that. I do recall going to the doctors a lot but that was actually prior to me going vegan. That was due to finding out I was lactose intolerant and that my body had trouble properly digesting meat. Once I became vegan and had my diet well balanced, I stopped getting sick.

You'll probably now accuse me of backpedaling or something but I am being honest here.

>>11773568
>cows take 10x the water that almonds do
Except the same amount of water going into a cow ends up feeding like fifty people and in the almond tree feeding like 10.

>>11773581
Since I became a vegan I started going to the doctor negative times. I'd say since these 3 years of me being vegan I visited the doctor approximately minus ten times.

>>11773568
and way more people can be fed using the cow than the almonds

>>11773601
>>11773746
>way more people can die of heart disease from the cow than the almonds.
ftfy carnetard

>>11773755
Is vegan science under or above the level of Christian science?

>>11772892
There is a lot more, and vegans don't give a single fuck about the millions of animals they kill.

>Hey vegans, could you please stop your industrial scale genocide of animals when you dump chemical pesticides on them???

>HAHAHA THAT'S FUNNY meatcuck!!! Lol you though we gave a fuck about animals lol lol !!!

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659