/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11697164
At least he didn't cut the cheese ha

>>11697164
The damage that the vegan "diet" does is just amazing. When active, enthusiastic vegans see the results of the deficient vegan "diet," what goes through their mind??, vegans, this you after ten or fifteen years vegan.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
Yet you proceed with this starvation diet?? Fuck me I don't understand that lol.

>>11697205
Pretty sure those people are just anorexic to begin with, you're seeing the results of mentally ill people starving themselves. Just a lack of animal products isn't going to cause that.

>>11697289
I guess you answered my question about that thanks..

>They didn't do Veganism right!
>I will be healthy and vegan strong!!
>15 years later.......

>Wait why are my teeth falling out??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5EmmOQ3dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU&app=desktop

>>11697329
ah you're the idiot that's on here everyday, we've spoken before

>>11697329
If you're going to cherry pick, then allow me to present my own counter-examples starting with Patrik Baboumian, the vegan strongman who set several strength records AFTER changing his diet. Nutrition is nutrition; if you eat a balanced and complete diet, you'll stay fit and even grow stronger, whether or not it's animal based.

https://www.greatveganathletes.com/patrik-baboumian-vegan-strongman

>>11697329
so if I eat only meat and under 1000 calories a day, does that make the carnivore diet unhealthy or am I just doing it wrong?

>>11697164
In my town we had a group of 3 sisters who were vegan while pregnant, all of their babies ended up with mental disabilities. They have since dropped veganism and had more kids who turned out fine.

>veganism makes you literally retarded

who could've guessed?

>>11697364
Complete bullshit

>>11697368
>putting pregnant women on unnatural diets won't hurt the development of their children

yup your a retard, vegan confirmed

>>11697343
That manlet bodybuilder, and Jon Penus, both built their muscular physiques, eating tons of meat. They are both great examples of how meat and exercise build strong healthy bodies, the rest of the self delusion I leave up to you.
>>11697349
I do not advocate the meat only restricted carnivore diet. I only advocate consuming natural animal fats, meat, milk eggs, whatever works for you, along with what ever else you like vegetables and fruits whatever works for you.

Any diet can be defended and may be superior.
Except Veganism lol. The proof is the long term vegan starvelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

I ate a vegan "balanced diet" and took supplements being mindful of all that shit.

I was completely lethargic and weighed 110 lbs at 20 years old.

One day I ate a chicken breast and my brain felt like it was awake again and 5 years later I now weigh 143 lbs.

Don't ever go vegan unless you are trying to get a starving kpop idol physique

>>11697379
>your
You're

>>11697394
What exactly were you eating and how many calories a day?

>>11697381
Surely someone lying about eating meat could be busted simply by looking at their grocery receipts?

>>11697164
>>11697394
It's absolutely crazy to me how many people can't do a diet right, they think eating vegan junk food and under 3000 calories a day is healthy and then complain they looked like shit. sv3rige is dumb as fuck and considers sungazing and juicing = veganism.

Vegan for 11 years, 200 pounds and work out daily. Never had an issue with inflammation and my blood test came back great.

>>11697417
This. If you don't use common sense and sound nutritional principles, any diet is going to backfire on you. Would you think it fair to generalise about the health of animal-protein diets based on the lifestyles of a fast-food addict?

>>11697409
Sorry, what I meant was, they ate meat during their whole life, during their bodybuilding stage, THEN Went vegan to hop on the trendy train and become vegan heroes. No indication or proof they are eating meat now, but it would be extremely easy, and even beneficial to their careers.

>>11697465
But that isn't right either, since Patrik was a vegetarian during his bodybuilding days before becoming a full vegan. Even if this wasn't true, the fact that he's maintained and even gained so much strength after transitioning is evidence enough that veganism does not preclude professional athleticism, let alone basic fitness.

>le ebin antivegan maymay posters
Vegans have been here since the 2000s. Vegans are anticulture. The only reason they post so much more now is to troll the stormfags like (you).
Veganism fits 4chans anticulture as much as any other.
They have a good reason to not eat meat and whatnot due to their ethics and health beliefs or whatever. I wouldn't know, I'm not vegan. You, on the other hand, think you are doing 4chan justice by antivegan posting yet you are simply the cause.
I simply ignore the threads. They are only on /ck/ which they rightfully should be as it's food related. Let them have their containment threads and they won't shitpost as much.
>>11697329
>>11697381
Kill yourself AND go back to plebbit, stormfag.

>>11697164
https://metro.co.uk/2018/12/24/couple-fed-infant-daughter-vegan-diet-restricted-gave-rickets-8280699/

>>11697417
They're trolling. There are many accounts online where a vegan diet does a person much good. Don't let these people work you up, it isn't worth it.

Becoming vegan actually inspired me to exercise. I drop a ton of weight and built muscle quickly. I don't remember the last time I needed to visit a doctor and I don't recall ever experiencing any of the negative claims any of the trolls in this thread are trying to perpetrate

>>11697483
Adding to this, the fact that you think a few years of protein-loading is enough for a strongman's entire career proves you know nothing about human biology, nutrition OR fitness. Strongmen have to eat constantly every single day just to break even, let alone get stronger. If a vegan diet wasn't nutritionally complete, vegan strongmen would plateau and crash in weeks, yet that's obviously not what's happened.

>>11697368
Perhaps. But we can all agree they turned out gay

>>11697514
Are you not worried you'll end up like one of the exvegans on sv3riges channel? Or aging really early? I have too many concerns about the diet

>another vegan thread

>>11697514
>I went vegan and I dropped a ton of weight
This I believe.

>and I built muscle quickly
This I do not believe lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LajS6XLBfQ

>>11697506
>I'm not antifa but...

>>11697164
I'm no fan of vegans, but I doubt a fucking diet is the root cause of why she seems so retarded. It probably didn't help, but just look at that weirdo. A bit extra B12 wouldn't have turned that into a well functioning member of society.

>>11698125
She's just one example of many many many. Many many members of this self harm cult called Veganism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

And notice she says at age 12 she watched the brutal horrifying slaughter porn, the vegan emotional propaganda. Her tender innocent mind was seared with a hot iron, Satanic vegans don't care that they are traumatizing 12 year old girls, they do it on purpose. This was fortold in 1 Timothy 4. Vegan activists are demons.

A shit diet is a shit diet, regardless of whether it includes animal products or not.
A "normal" diet is easier to maintain because if you eat animals you will accidentally get essential nutrition even if you dont take notice of what you eat whilst a careless vegan is essentially fucked.

My pet peeve with vegans is how they cherry pick studies to suit their cult narrative
>studied show meat eaters are more likely to get cancer or heart disease etc...
Yes because the world is full of omnviores that live unhealthy lifestyles, by being a vegan you are more likely to be aware of health and nutrition so it is not a fair comparison.
These faggots are so insecure about their dieatary choice they lie to justify it.

>>11698196
>Yes because the world is full of omnviores that live unhealthy lifestyles, by being a vegan you are more likely to be aware of health and nutrition so it is not a fair comparison.
So omnivores are unhealthy fat retards? Great point. Do you sincerely think researchers don’t understand risk factors and hazard ratios?

>>11697857
Vegans live rent free in the low IQ low T fat inbred retard carniecucks heads

>>11698212
Most people are unhealthy and uninformed retards that dont care about their wellbeing. Their diet is a symptom of their lack of nutritional awareness and not the cause. If you can't stand this then their is no hope for you.

Health studies, especially nutrition, are so flawed they should really be ignored anyway. Werent carbs on top of the food pyramid recently? Are eggs good or bad? Does fat make you fat?
Nutritionists are fucking useless.

>>11698251
>Health studies, especially nutrition, are so flawed they should really be ignored anyway.
You’re right! We should listen to geniuses like you who think researchers don’t study risk factors or hazard ratios! You’re very smart!!!

>Werent carbs on top of the food pyramid recently? Are eggs good or bad? Does fat make you fat?
Oh you’re just one of those unhealthy uninformed retards you were just talking about who thinks reading headlines to a magazine makes him informed about nutritional research

Carry on, fatboy I thought you were just disingenuous not flat out retarded

>>11697343
https://blog.bulletproof.com/carl-lewis-vegan/

>>11698196
>These faggots are so insecure about their DIEatary choice they lie to justify it.


So true, they lie to themselves that Veganism is healthy. The mirror will tell them the truth in ten or 15 years of eating shrubbery and branches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

Once they get sick, their cult community will tell him or her that it is actually part of the program, "ethical vegans" vow to stay vegan even to death, regardless of the harm it does their body. (For the animals)

Carnists are fat inbred retards that eat against their own interests

>>11698217
If that's what (((you))) call it. I call it laughing at emaciated retards in a starvation cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qliSxsOp8Zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS_th9WPLE

(((You're))) still dangerous though, so we have to take the threat to our health and freedom seriously.

lmao @ amerimutt coastoids

>>11698265
There is no "we" between (((you))) and me. You are an enemy satanist species who wants me dead. You could actually harm me by giving me good advice, because I would automatically to the opposite of anything you recommend.

(But I know your kind could never do that lol, I am 100% safe to do the opposite of anything you recommend me to do, for my health or any other reason)

>>11698265
Why are vegans so rude and aggressive all the time? Its almost like they have a mental disorder.

>>11697417
Your doctors don't know how to tell you you're dying of faggotry

>>11698892
Why are carnists such sensitive pussies?

Carnists are fat inbred schizophrenic retards that eat against their own interests

I didn't have any milk this morning. Now my chest hurts and my fingers feel stiff. Like rocks.

>>11698917
>believes in climate change
>vegan
Yep mental disorder

>>11698910
Meat eaters are sensitive pussies we just stand up for ourselves when brainwashed zombies try pushing their cult on us

>fat
>retarded
>inbred
>schizophrenic
>eats against his own interests despite overwhelming evidence otherwise
>believes in alternative facts that go against his own interests
>drumpf voter

Yep. That’s a carnist.

>s-stop b-being so aggressive!!!

Low T dairy fairies

>>11697506
vegans aren't anticulture they are hipsters and retards

>>11697368
found the vegtard. sorry that mummy crippled you from birth.

>>11697164
You fags that care so much about others'dietary habits are just as annoying. Kill yourselves

>>11698217
>>11698480
>>11698917
>>11698938
>>11698942
lmao look how mad this guy is

Yesterday throughour the day I ate
>2lbs of vegetables (broccoli, carrots, spinach, onion, garlic, mung bean shoots, avocado, capsicum, asparagus)
>1 cup rice
>banana, apple, dried peas, dried wakame seaweed
>tbsp butter, small wedge blue cheese
>4oz grilled squid I caught
>7oz fried venison I killed
>olive oil, balsamic vinager, salt, pepper, chilli powder
>black coffee, chamomile tea
>3oz bourbon neat

Vegans actually believe I would be healthier if I cut out the dairy and meat.
Fuck those cultists, I kill extra deer and give the meat away at work just to spite the faggot vegan that made snide comments about me.

>>11697381
>*moves goalposts*
>"haha idiot you thought I would actually reply to you honestly? I was just getting ready to post some more walls of texts with YouTube vids"

literally nothing better to do. I live in California and know vegans/vegetarians and they've really never caused a problem or confronted anyone I know or myself about eating meat. Shut-ins and flyovers just think it's very common because they live their entire life online in little echo chambers.

>>11697205
I know plenty of vegans who aren't withered, dying husks. Veganism is a for like any other - you can do it poorly, you can do it well, and there are things you need to watch out for. Evangelical vegans are just as retarded as their counterparts who insist that veganism is death.

>>11699033
I do not post to please or accommodate my enemies. Let me be clear I am mocking you fucking self harm cult retards. It is metaphysically impossible for your side to win, because you're a suicide cult, and my only role is to laugh at you all the way down.

This guy + seething = you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LajS6XLBfQ

>>11697164
East Asians hardly consume cheese and other dairy products, though, especially due to lack of cultural and culinary relevance, and also due to lactose intolerance. What are these Western teenagers doing wrong with their diets, whereas typical East Asians develop fine in comparison?

>>11700049
They eat fish and eggs lmao, also a lot of soy. Soy has Omega-3s, most fish do as well. Dairy is only needed really due to protein or tryptophan requirements. Most micro-nutrients that dairy has can be replaced with other sources. Being a vegan is straight retarded, but there are sensible Vegetarian & Pescetarian diets.

>>11700225
Thank you for the information. Is there anywhere on Earth where being vegan, or some kind of hardcore (very strict, as to what is permitted from even not killing animals) form of vegetarianism is considered traditional, or is veganism more of a Western 20th-21st century phenomenon?

>35% protein
what now, meat-tards?

>>11700234
Modern day veganism is part of the Jews grand plan to divide mankind and control the weak.

>>11700296
Thanks I will put some on my steak

>>11700296
yeah those make a great steak garnish, or if you're feeling frisky, you can grind them into a breading base for chicken. Soooo good!

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272359907_Environmental_impact_of_dietary_change_A_systematic_review

This was interesting to read. It reviewed lots of studies and showed that the danger to the environment isn't eating meat, but eating the meat of animals who digest through rumination. Rumination is how cows and sheep digest, through multiple stomachs. These types of animals are much more costly to raise and produce much more carbon. If people just ate meat from other animals, like chicken and pork, the environmental impact of this consumption is about the same as that of vegetarian diets.

It's a shame to witness transitions happening in diets worldwide for this reason. Traditionally in China for example, pork is the main meat. Mutton and beef are for special occasions except for Muslim minority groups. But as the coutnry is modernising, people start to associate beef with being rich, and demand has risen enormously. It's sad that people would make fun of poorer countries in one way and expect them to copy our civilised and modern behaviours, when actually their old habits were much more sensible.

>>11700307
I'm Jewish, however, and it is not part of my plan to do that to anyone.

>>11700307
this is the mind of your average meatcuck

>>11700409
Stay in the soyzone friendo

>>11697417
Hey Richard, I think Jasmin is really cute and I hope you divorce so I can date her.

Not eating meat, cheese, butter, eggs...that is not a life worth living.
Denying yourself moderated pleasure is fucking retarded. The signifcance of global food history and culture around consuming animal products is too important to give up for a diet.

>>11699219
came back to say I'm not even vegan but I know plenty of vegans and vegetarians and they don't make a big deal of it

>>11700049
Why would you expect a country that has a long coastline, a fuckhuge stock of pigs and chickens (in China's case), a peninsula surrounded by ocean, and an island nation to NOT eat a ton of animals in the form of fish at the least? In ancient korea the entire reason they got so autistic about fermenting everything was due to scarcity of good farmland, leading to regular animal and fish consumption to get by.

>meatcuck
stop being a retard,if you dont eat meat it will simply rot away in containment or get eaten by someone else,veganism isnt bad if you need veggies once in a while but only eating plants does not give you the fibers and shit meat does.Just eat both of them at different intervals

>>11700971
This. Plus if you honestly care about animals so much you wouldn't eat them you're beta AF. If you genuinely are such a pushover that feeding an animal and housing it and then killing it typically very humanely is such a burden on your mind when you're crunching down your tendies then you're a beta. On the other hand IDGAF what people eat. It's mostly boastful veganfags that I dispise.

>>11701058
>It's mostly boastful veganfags that I dispise

This. Recognizing the enemy is important if we are going to keep our freedom and the freedom to eat healthy food and be healthy.

(((The vegan agenda))) literally plans to get meat taxed, regulated and banned, so we'll all be forced to become sickly emaciated vegan retards, whether we choose to or not.

Tip of the spear activists don't even lie about this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS_th9WPLE

All long as you are happy with your dietary lifestyle I don't really see the need for this discussion

Some people can do a vegan lifestyle. Others can't. So what.

>post your favorite dish

Vegans are the greatest hypocrites. They don't eat meat because "killing animals is bad", but they have no qualms killing plants as if they aren't living organisms at all.

If a living organism acts like a human does: DONTEATIT!!

If i can't hear an organism cry for help while i eat it: GOODTOEAT.

>>11697343
/Fit/ here

Baboumian is embarrassing. The only reason he has records is because Germany is about as good at strongman as they are at winning world wars

Zydrunas Savickas presses Baboumian's log 1RM for 10-15 in competition. Baboumian will NEEEEEVER see the stage at the Arnold, the World's Strongest Man, or anything other than a local meet. Keep sucking his dick though

>>11701347
Most vegans I know do it for the environment. Are you american by any chance?

Jesus fuck you're all so retarded. Clearly this isn't even about food at this point but rather an exchange of ideologue bullshit. Both ends of the fence won't rest until they're infalliably right.

Personally i'd exterminate every fucking vegan i see because only the retarded ones talk about it in public and normal vegans would shut the fuck up about it and go about their business. That being said i'd also put the "ebin bacon whiskey manly meal time" faggots in the same gas chamber too.

going vegan during a period where you body needs protein and vitamins the most is fucking stupid.

>>11697343

>vast majority of his training done before becoming vegan
>becomes vegan
>uses the gains he got before becoming vegan to set records

ok

>>11697343
>roidniggers
OH NO NO NO

>>11701570
(((Jon Penus))) is the best example of a carnivore muscle man, LARPing as a vegan for the trendy fame and vegan Jewtube subscribers (and the shekels that ensue from that)

>>11701379
>do it for the environment

>millions of acres of virgin forest and top grade habitat cleared to grow crops
>fertilizer runoff causes algae blooms in nearby rivers and kill water life
>pesticides kill small rodents and rodent predators
>farmers have to cull pests like deer, rabbits so crops dont get eaten up
>harvesters and machinery crush and tear apart animals when crops are harvested

>do it for the environment

>>11698910
>>11698917
> Carnists
How do you expect to be taken seriously?

> Fat schizophrenic retards
How do you expect to convert people?

>>11701102
> tfw buying and eating meat puts money in the hands of meat lobbyists to keep vegans at bay
For once, I like this.

>>11701825
Plants are the real racists yada yada

>>11701571
>>11701570
>doesnt count!!!
Cope harder

>>11701893
I don’t expect a bunch of fat retards like you to ever convert to anything that actually helps you. You have a victim complex and love playing it even against an overwhelming minority of vegans

>>11700538
>wanting some guy's sloppy seconds

>>11701907
So you do not expect to convert those that disagree with you and you don't expect to be taken seriously. You concede that you are just yelling and masturbating. I accept your defeat. Good day.

>>11701825
Animal agriculture is even worse per-calorie, not to mention that most animal agriculture today is dependent on growing crops to feed to livestock. It takes 10 calories of plants to produce 1 calorie of animal tissue so that adds up to a lot of extra field crops.

>>11701935
you didnt refute his points.

rape is worse than thieving but that doesnt mean thieving isnt a bad thing.

>>11701907

Imagine turning that all into crop land, if everyone turned vegan it's entirely not sustainable.

>>11701907
that image is so fucking dishonest. The land is also used for mining (brazil has a TON and huge variety of valuable gemstones) and production of pulp, timber and paper

>>11701924
This is the schizo fat inbred retard thing I was talking about

>>11701961
Its far more sustainable

>>11701969
>Facts are dishonest
Only in Trumpland

>>11701991
the image is misleading and just weakens the argument. It suggests that all the land is cleared because of farming but its cleared for a myriad of reasons, not just farming.

>>11697205
you're a moron, i went vegan two years ago and i went up in size, muscle power, endurance. All my bloodwork is perfectly fine.
You're just cherrypicking anorexic or mentally ill people

>>11701991
you just proved his point, good job

>>11701998
>im so special, im not like all these other 90312930213 vegans with health issues!

>in fact, I gained muscle! I must be amongst the 0.001% of the human race, because most Olympiad athletes with the best genes and access to the best foods and healthcare dont even do this!

>>11701993
>Facts weaken the argument
LOL

>suggests that all the land is cleared because of farming but its cleared for a myriad of reasons, not just farming.
Except it doesn’t say that. Nice alternative facts, dumbo

>>11701999
And you continue to prove mine, thanks ;)

>>11702004
well, like the other guy said, you're just cutting yourself because now we wont even take you seriously.

good day.

>>11702003
great argument buddy
Lets talk about all the health issues on your diet then?

>>11702009
it is in fact a good argument. Professional athletes can eat any food or diet they want to, cost, quality or freshness is not an issue. They can have the best their country can offer. But they are almost always omnivores. why is that? if vegan diet works, you dont think more of them would do it? when it comes to results and health almost all of them chose to include meat.

>>11701907
>Posts a meme which concerns ONLY China and Brazil.
>Obviously Western whites arenat fault.

So if I stop eating meat and starve myself,
Brazil will stop cutting down the rainforest for China??

tl;dr Veganism is an ideology of lies.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>11701907
I am so sick of that rainforest meme its being going around for over least 20 years, shouldnt it all have been destroyed by now?

>>11701935
>Animal agriculture is even worse per-calorie

Empty argument. Completely meaningless when cows and sheep can live on land not suitable for intensive vegetables harvesting.

>not to mention that most animal agriculture today is dependent on growing crops to feed to livestock.

Combining chicken death camps with pleasant-living cattle ranches, where cows live and chill outdoors with their cow friends, completely dishonest argument. Remember sheeple, these fucking idiots have to lie, to get people into their starvation cult. NEVER expect any truth from a vegan recruiter.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSM4s12ULWs

>>11701998
>MUH TWO YEAR VEGAN!!

Idiot, your story may be true but it's meaningless. Your body can live on stored nutrients for three years vegan, then, THEN you start doing permanent damage. Then get back to us in ten 15 years vegan when you start appearing in funny YouTube videos like the rest of your LONG TERM vegan retarded pals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

>>11702479
Vegan youtubers are fucking cancer.
Their holier than thou, pesudo spiritual or whatever you want to call it attitude is so annoying and transparent.
Why is that veganism attracts a special kind of fart sniffing retard?

>>11697164
I don't like cheese and never eat it and look how I turned out. Dumb post

Not the chick in the video, but I was raised vegan. It was not a fun experience. Feel free to ask anything.

>>11702479
>THEN you start doing permanent damage
Pretty much this and this accounts for a lot of things. From smoking to alcohol abuse and eating unhealthy.

take the meatpill
join the meat militia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOLHjprwMYw&t=

My ex-vegan interview with sv3rige should air sometime next week. Anything I should get into the video, /ck/?

>>11702626
We're you breastfed as a babby?
When did you notice you were unhealthy eating vegan?
We're your vegan parents unhealthy?
Did they have to force-feed you the disgusting vegan pablum?

How did you break the conditioning and decided to eat meat?

>>11702689
Yeah can you explain the mental process where you transform from a brainwashed veganbot to a thinking anon and decided to eat meat? (I was never vegan, I just didn't eat healthy until I got the redpill from sverige.)

Did you watch the emotional propaganda that converted you to vegan?? Explain that process to sverige I will enjoy watching it.

>>11697164
I did veganism for 1.5 years and almost died.
Don't fall for this suicide cult. You need oily fish. You need animal protein. You need dairy. You need eggs.

>>11701999
Trips of truth.

>>11702690
>We're you breastfed as a babby?
Yes. Breast is best.

>When did you notice you were unhealthy eating vegan?
I was very small and developed some health issues.

>We're your vegan parents unhealthy?
It depends on your definition. My mother died of liver disease in her forties, but I'm not sure if that was related to her dietary choices.

She got interested in veganism when she took a blood food allergy test and tested positive for every single one. Blood food allergy tests are notoriously unreliable, but she didn't know this and there was little research on it at the time. She was led to believe that she was allergic to nearly all animal products despite that it wasn't true. This was before I was born. As a result, she went vegan and I was also raised that way. My parents were both liberal hippies who were into health fads to start with.

>Did they have to force-feed you the disgusting vegan pablum?
Of course

>How did you break the conditioning and decided to eat meat?
It feels very isolating being unable to eat animal products. I frequently got grounded as a kid for eating animal products at sleepovers. My morals were never really in line with my parents to start with, so I quit when I moved out.

>>11702711
I took the healthseeker route kinda like sv3rige did after years of truthseeking and conspiracy research. I got memed by the "spiritual awakening" community into near suicide back in early 2016. It's a pretty wild story.

Started carnivore in April and my mental health (which was shitfucked for a decade) has never been better. Now I write carnivore meatpill music. Here's a sv3rige-tier blackened death metal track. Imagine brutal guttural vocals and a meatpilled band that passes out high meat, raw organs, and fresh animal blood to the crowd. I wonder what kind of ordinance I'd need to slaughter live animals on stage.

Raw Deal

Masses fed on bread and lies
The dreams within our hearts
Never to be realized
Sleeping behind the wheel of life
Until the day we rise
Until the day we rise
Until the day we rise

Running round in circles
Lost without a purpose
Slaves to bread and circus
Breaking the chains of indentured service

Ignorance is bliss
Or so we're taught to believe
By those who scheme to bereave
With magic words they weave
Illusion, it's devolution
Devilish cheers at our destitution
Unconscious fears, no absolution
Their time has come for dissolution
Retribution, restitution
The end of human persecution
Prosecution of the inhuman institution

With a malicious sneer
The priest and the king and the profiteer
Always turning peer on peer
Selling pain and fear
From stone to spear to atomic bomb
How could we let things go so wrong?
It goes on and on and on
Now we're breaking the cycle
With our song

Enslaved in debt to a central bank
Depraved in heart with (((you))) to thank
Only saved are those with higher rank
The rest of us?
Walk the plank
Your son and daughter?
Cannon fodder
Beware the marauder

Mind control is hard to break
The culture prescribed is harder to take
Media madness obscuring what's real
Influencing what we think and feel
It's a raw deal

Bow before me
Down you kneel
Kiss the ring
Your soul is sealed

>>11702463
Vegans can't handle this.
Remember, veganism and even vegetarianism is part of the NWO to experiment on fags. You will never see pescetarianism or shellfish shilling (which is actually positive for the environment as shell construction takes CO2 out of the air and uses unoccupied ocean space.)

>>11702777
Nice digits and a sad story. Sounds like they flat out refused to feed you the food you knew by instinct was better.
>Stop feeding me this vegan shit!!!
>You're grounded! Eat that kale smoothie!!
>>11702907
Good luck, and don't fall for any of the crazy stuff like 20 day fasting! (Sverige is against all fasting)

>>11703051
Been there done that. I don't fast anymore since informing myself properly. ZCH is pretty legit. They don't fuck around with any dumb bullshit, and pretty much force everyone out who does. This week I'm getting off salt. Meanwhile snake diet fags are chugging saltwater and fasting like madmen. It's all so tiresome. I just wanna eat meat and chill.
http://www.zerocarbhealth.com/index.php/2016/06/11/fasting-and-zero-carb/

>>11702997
>>11702463
I'm not even saying we need to stop producing meat, but we absolutely cannot fill the demand for beef by only using marginal land for grazing. If we tried we would just ruin a bunch more wildlife habitat somewhere out west. If that were the only way cattle were raised, beef would be strictly a luxury product. If you want cheap beef you have to feed cows crops and/or clear land.

>>11699076
This desu desu.

My ex from hs is vegan and she got fat af since she became one. Also most vegans i know are fat.

>>11700234
Vegan is code for man in tribe who can't hunt for shit and is generally useless

>>11704416
What you're saying is, we wouldn't be able to keep feeding Africa, North Korea etc etc for free, if we went to grass fed beef. Basically government (run by libtard Jews) has it's priorities--taxing us, destroying our environment, to feed the precious niggers.

Your argument is half true, but when you look one layer deeper, and see us feeding the whole world, doing other retarded things like growing corn to put in gasoline, your argument is moot.

Liberals (I include Trump in this category) will never stop destroying our environment to feed Africa, they will never stop wasting our precious farmland on retarded ethanol corn, so this argument basically makes both of us retards.

>>11697164
>>11697289
>>11701455
>>11698924
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or.html?zx=8d20dd9d8e82ef7a

>>11698217
>>11698480
>Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease.
>The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades.
>The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI.
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/saturated-fat-good-or-bad/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/
>http://www.uib.no/en/node/103172
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-studies-on-saturated-fat
>http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html

>>11702547
>Why is that veganism attracts a special kind of fart sniffing retard?

Well it is a starvation cult, so I suppose only people who are nutjobs to begin with would be their target audience, or most likely to join.

>>11705754
Veganism- just a light bondage, self harm S&M cult.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHRP9Fiwoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0bJNMFsxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPt0TAPgoU

>>11697164
>hur hur how can world be round hur hur plane would be flying upside down hur hur
I can't believe people listen to this fruitcake

>>11705592
*
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

>>11706403
He has all his teeth, and he's not into self harm like you vegan nutjobs. When are you getting yourself branded, or don't you even care about the animals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPDna5Qok2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LajS6XLBfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

>>11707723
Is that considered a normal price for a room in a shared house in the flyover region? Just curious.

>>11707723
wow nice discrimination vegantards

>>11707825
Carnists smell like rotten meat and sour milk, what do you expect?

>>11707837
You people don't smell at all to me because i only see you shit talking over the internet. Only vegan i ever encountered was literally (literally) a female mutt. A fucking whore who had no problem drinking galons of semen.
I wish i was making this shit up.

>>11707866
>definitely not mental illness

>>11697289
A lot of people with eating disorders knowingly use veganism as a way to hide their disorder. People won't be so suspicious when you say "oh, I can't eat this because I'm vegan, I'll just eat something at home". Ariana Grande is a good example.

No offense but what is it about meat that you can't get from anything else?

>>11698950
Anticulture is basically marxism, which involves for example, shitting in the middle of the street, and then calling it an art. Sole goal of anticulture is destruction of culture, what leaves us with nothing but dehumanized humans, or just simply put, cruel and dangerous animals.

>>11707899
B12.

>>11697506
4chan is counter culture
>>11708279
anti culture is just a cultureset up in opposition to another culture

>>11708304
>anticulture is a culture

You are either stupid or misleading on purpose.
I sincerly hope you are the former and instead of rejecting inconvenient truth, you will educate yourself.

>>11707889
What you said is very important. Maybe Veganism is just one stage on a fruitcakes life journey of self harm.

It's easier to say you are a vegan, and be a Martyr, a member of a group, a tribe engaged in a passionate struggle, than to say, "I'm a self obsessed nutjob who starves herself""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NsOi21fOqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3WmsEJulZw

>>11707837
I dare you to come smell me. Guarantee I smell better than you sugar fermenters.

>It's easier to say you are a vegan, and be a Martyr, a member of a group, a tribe engaged in a passionate struggle, than to say, "I'm a self obsessed nutjob who starves herself""

But both are also the same thing. Veganism is collective anorexia cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5QTP4EOyTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsAfZw4o5z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRBtYJ9tr_A

>>11708279
>dehumanized humans, or just simply put, cruel and dangerous animals
Umm, Cletus, you just described late stage corporate fascist capitalism, not marxism, ok?

>>11708460
Vegan farts are more deadly to the environment than all the cow emmission ever released. Veganism is basically a scat and flatulence club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCeA238F_Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QanA2kfiupk

>>11708468
Let me guess, Venezuela didn't do Marxiism right?

>>11708468
Wheter you are avare of it or not, throwing shit at the opposite camp is favorite communist tactics. Capitalism has its own faults, but this doesen't change the fact that I described anticulture which is main element of Marxism. I unironically advise anyone interested in the topic to carefully read Marx, Wilhelm Reich and other stars to make an educated decision wheter or not he supports their views. Take attention to both things said and unsaid, additional reading on history might also help.

>>11707899
vitamin A, vitamin b12, creatine, saturated animal fat, animal protein and cholesterol, all of which your body requires to keep the it in a healthy state

>>11697164
>Another person nearly dead from cutting out cheese
lol retard

>>11697197
ROFL holy shit LOL

>>11708588
The human body can make its own creatine. Shows what you know, carnist,

Veganism is peak delusion.

Is using the term carnist meant to be an insult?
It just comes across as cringey.

>>11710066
It makes you sound like a fantic. It's their version of "infidel", you are with them, or against them. Always.

>>11710066
It's supposed to reify a way of thinking that otherwise goes unnoticed. It's theoretically possible to be a carnist who abstains from meat for any number of reasons, the word is not synonymous with "carnivore".

In practice it is usually used tongue in cheek by people who saw it somewhere and didn't understand the point being made, and kiddies on /ck/ confuse that for earnest "debate" and think that they're arguing with a militant vegan.

>>11710098
Obviously it's not synonymous with carnivore. No vegan or vegetarian would be so insane to suggest a person who eats meat eats it to the exclusion of all vegetable matter. That's why the word carnist exists. To emphasize that omnivores consume meat.

>>11710109
>That's why the word carnist exists. To emphasize that omnivores consume meat.
See: "people who saw it somewhere and didn't understand the point being made"

>>11710098
The pejorative term "carnist" is certainly synonymous with the real word "carnivore" to denote meat eaters, gut carnist sounds ugly while "carnivore" actually some nds cool and brings Lions and wolves to kind, very cool animals.

Vegan propaganda specialists created the term "carnist" to make eating meat sound ugly and not cool

But nothing really changes Veganism is and remains a white girls suicide club. The more people join Veganism and stay in long term, the more nutjobs we'll have to laugh at as they waste away.

Anorexia has obvious outward signs, of the damage it does to the hman body (do not watch the 23 year old teeth video, it serves only as horrible, disgusting proof, for anyone whose mnd still refuses to see reality)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5EmmOQ3dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBJtHMDI5-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU&app=desktop

>>11710140
All of that is incorrect, also spamming 6 hours of youtube in response to 1 line of text means you've lost the argument.

>>11710098
The pejorative smear term "carnist" is absolutely synonymous with the real word "carnivore" to denote meat eaters, but carnist sounds ugly while "carnivore" actually sounds cool and brings Lions and wolves to mind, very cool animals. (Vegans know not to ever use any descriptive term on their enemies, which sounds cool)
Vegan propaganda specialists created the smear term "carnist" to make eating meat sound ugly and not cool.

But nothing really changes ...Veganism is and remains a white girls anorexia club. The more people join Veganism and stay in long term, the more nutjobs we'll have to laugh at as they waste away.

Anorexia has obvious outward signs, of the damage it does to the human body (do not watch the 23 year old teeth video, it serves only as horrible, disgusting proof, for anyone whose mind still refuses to see reality)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5EmmOQ3dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBJtHMDI5-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU&app=desktop

>>11710098
>>11710109
These posts are laughable lies. Not surprising because Veganism forces you to lie to yourself (anorexia and emaciation = healthy) and lie to your fellow vegan starvelings and the world.
>>11710153
I'm not arguing with you. I'm laughing at you vegan activist fruitcake. When your teeth fall out in ten years then you will know I won the argument too, without even trying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39uFhAN4MVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzA4TmfqyOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCeA238F_Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dl5z6LWpnc

>>11700307
Based and redpilled!

>>11710153
Here's a vegan who won his final argument, an inspiration for all animal rights advocates and environmental advocates, let's join him comrade, and show the carnists they have zero chance against activists with true passion!!??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXu2mWVTOhc

>>11697343
For strongmen the deciding factors are the following in that order
>roids>genetics>training/diet

why are there so many vegan threads on /ck/?
This is a food and cooking enthusiast board, not a food hating board. Clearly if you love food, you won't go vegan. That's like discussing religion in /sci/ or stating facts in /x/

>>11710034
your body makes it own cholesterol as well, doesn't mean you shouldn't consume it.
>carnist
oh you're mentally ill, nevermind.

>>11697394
What nutrient where you missing exactly? Estrogen, arsenic... maybe non-essential amino-acids?
You can do better than this, shill.

>>11708588
This meme has literally been invented to kill.

>>11710558
We are herbivores. Wake up.

>>11710558
Mainly trolls, real vegans dont have enough stamina to waste on this kind of stuff

>>11710204
Rest in peace brother, your sacrifice will inspire thousands of activists to come...

>>11710642
>vegan

>>11712042
>We are herbivores.
>We have four stomachs
>We absolutely do not have simple one-stomach systems just like Lions and wolves
>Because that would mean we should probably eat meat
>Like Lions and wolves

vegans are strange people who are basically /r/childfree and because they don't have that vertical transmission of their ideology, they resort to being overly hostile on the internet to cash in on some of that horizontal information exchange

But they don't have the theory of mind to realize that most people don't give a fuck. When I watch a hunting video, when I see an arrow pierce an animals heart, I feel a slight twinge for that animal. It's just that I want the meat more and realize that the entire process is a beautiful one that our ancestors have engaged in for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

>>11712561
>most people don't give a fuck
Then why does every vegan thread, even those simply wanting to share recipes, get invaded by carnists screaming, wailing and gnashing their teeth about vegans trying to steal their precious bodily fluids?

>>11712687
for these replies

>>11712687
The preachy annoying vegans ruined it for the non-obnoxious ones.

>>11701907
daily reminder

>>11702907
You are still searching for a cult to latch onto. Instead of just eating plants and animals as needed, you buy into all of stabby-shabby Gatis’ following. Blindly making similar decisions as your mom did. I think eating raw meats and organs is pretty healthful, but eating just meat when we know so much about how plant eating helps us cope and detox from the polluted world and the anti cancer effects and prebiotic fibres etc, it is just a different shade of ignorance. Pathetic, there are legions of you just aching for a black and white answer.

>>11704215
You are so confident you know it all just based on your YouTube viewing. Fucking egos.

>>11702907
its like the opposite of cattle decapitation

>>11707736
yes. i live in illinois and i commonly see small houses to rent for less than a grand a month. rural homes and apartments are even cheaper

>>11712042
right. thats why our digestive tract is terribly similar to carnivores right?

>>11713600
it's all here:
justmeat.co

>>11712687
when in the history of ever has a vegan thread been just vegans simply wanting to share recipes?

>>11712687
Because you are literally trying to steal our lunch. Of course your agenda is to get meat banned. Personally I suspect there will be a mass vegan suicide/die off before that happens>>11712329

>>11713779
I've seen vegan recipes, they go like this...
>Pour chemical powder into blender
>Mix with two cups vegan tears.
>Blend into chemical sludge
>Eat it
>Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU

>>11697164
Vegans don't age well. That shits no good for longevity.

>>11715147
Is that 'Bite size Emily?"

>>11714419
>someone switches to a vegan diet
>omfg, they're committing carnist genocide! Calling all carnists, man battle stations, man battle stations! We have to defend our precious bodily fluids from this egregious assault on our manhood!

>>11716379
Thanks for providing an example of how duplicitous vegans are.

Forked tongue satanists, veganites talking out of both sides of their mouths, always.

One day they are bragging about the vegan agenda how they are going to ban meat, next day laughing at meat eaters for even noticing the vegan agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odC9gEXX2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_CXwa-_5Uk

Only thing I can say for sure is, my stores shelves are full of fresh meat, and carnivore is growing. Good luck vegans.

>>11716518
What you're arguing sounds like this:
>some carnists advocate genociding all vegans
>therefore, all carnists advocate that
Is this what happens to carnist thought processes when putrifying meat is trapped in their large intestine lining and they have a reduced blood flow to the brain due to arteriosclerosis?

>>11716548
Yes.
Now explain to me why you vegans look like this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39uFhAN4MVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzA4TmfqyOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCeA238F_Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dl5z6LWpnc

>>11716577
>le thriving robust vegans

>>11697164
>>11697205
>11697205
One case is logical fallacy. Its like saying, oh my uncle who smokes cigarettes is 57 and he doesnt have cancer

Its fuckin dumb

Heres Frank Medrano, someone who knows how to vegan diet properly, would undoubtedly beat OP in a fist fight: https://www.frankmedrano.com/

Plenty of other healthy vegans. NFL players, UFC players, all you need is google.

>>11716577
Some vegans look like this.

>>11719727
Elite athletes with unlimited resources and a team of doctors thrive on a vegan diet? That's shocking.

>>11719757
Yeah so you admit its possible to thrive on the vegan diet, regardless of income or anything right now - you admit that is indeed clearly healthy, if you can beat the champ of UFC while doing it, right?

>>11719785
>Hold on plant based diet anon, I am trying to figure how to win this argument since I was just forced to admit there are vegans that are much healthier than I am.

This is the favorite part of my day, whenever I chance upon one of these threads. =)

>>11719785
>veganism is healthy if you take steroids and do experimental gene therapy, meatcucks BTFO

>>11719738
Wow. Nate Diaz. Is not vegan, was never vegan. How does it feel to know that every'vegan' celeb is a fraudulent? Just pretending to be vegan on the advice of their managers? Ellen??

Or do you know that, and your just lying as all vegans must do to promote a suicide cult??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glvxgDDimTE

>>11720648
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/nate-diaz-explains-how-his-vegan-diet-71406

How does it feel to get exposed as a liar. Lol.

>>11697164
You're telling me a teenager couldn't properly manage a vegan diet? But they're so mature and responsible!

>>11721420
I don't know, it's never happened. As a vegan, lying is something you do everyday, so just look in a mirror and tell yourself.

https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/athlete-on-off-vegan-nate-diaz-speaks-against-tofu

>Speaking about his plant-based diet, the athlete said: "I'm going on and off.

">I was a complete vegan for eight years, but I would dabble into some seafood every now and then.

>"Now, I dig fish."

Two comments which clearly indicate, from Diaz mouth, he is not now, and never was vegan.

>>11721420
>Speaking about his plant-based diet, the athlete said: "I'm going on and off.

> was a complete vegan for eight years, but I would dabble into some seafood every now and then.

>"I'm a professional fighter, who gets punched in the face for a living, so I don't actually understand that that actually means I was never vegan whatsoever lol, but I know desperate vegan activists will cling to this anyway and pretend I didn't just say I never stopped eating fish, ever, even Today.

>Now, I dig fish."

>In case you didn't catch that, I just said I am absolutely 100% not vegan, by simple definition. My Lord these veganite activists are retarded lol!!

>>11721420
>On and off again vegan, Derp Diaz....

"On and off again vegan" in case your sad miserable sub Saharan IQ is not helping you here, that means "not vegan"

You could stretch Diaz diet to "plant based" it would be false, but arguable. Eating fish is 100% NOT VEGANISM you bold faced liar (vegans, all liars)

https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/athlete-on-off-vegan-nate-diaz-speaks-against-tofu

>>11721524
>>11721539
>>11721546

tl;dr Nate Diaz is not, was never vegan.

(((Vegans))) lied again. Nate never lied, he openly admits he eats fish "time to time" but he doesn't understand that makes you NOT VEGAN. Vegan activists know this. Vegan activists are open liars.

>>11721607
>Vegan activists are open liars

No comment?

>>11697164
I still can't believe THIS is supposed to be Kids Ranqe.

>>11698917
who gives a fuck. we actually need more co2.

>>11721546
>>11721539
Okay, Nate Diaz eating mostly vegan for 8 years isnt enough...Fine.

heres Frank Medrano. He is healtheir than you will ever be, and 150% vegan.

>>11722221
https://www.freshnlean.com/meet-frank-medrano-vegan-super-athlete/

>>11722221
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "MOSTLY VEGAN"

Nate Diaz ate fish, eats fish today, and furthermore he rants about how bad soy is, makes men into girly boys. You are just another exposed vegan liar.

(Don't worry that doesn't make you unique lol, all vegans are 100% liars like you)

Pic related is what real vegans look like. Nate Diaz is healthy, because he eats a lot of fish and he can afford the best quality.

>>11722221
>What you want vegans to look like.
>What you see in the mirror

>>11697164
Fake news. Being vegan is what humans where intended to do

i'm vegetarian, and i'd kill myself before cutting milk products and eggs out of my diet. Vegans are fucking retarded.

>>11697289
>true veganism has never been tried
every time

>>11723460
that could be any 23->28 year old.

I'm not sure if a vegan diet is unavoidably deficient, but poor diet really fucks with your energy and mood. Maintaining a proper diet as a vegan or even vegetarian isn't trivial.

From what I've seen I agree with the main theme of this thread, which is that going vegan just isn't practical for a regular person. Maybe it would work if you are paying a chef and doctor to structure your diet. You will probably need to take supplements as well.

>>11724156
This desu. Health and muscle mass has skyrocketed since cutting out meat, but cutting out eggs and milk would fucking obliterate me as they're a large part of my daily protein. I guess I could theoretically switch harder onto tofu and edamame, but fuck that.

>>11723460
Yeah just ignore my Frank Medrano post, who is like I said 150% vegan. He never eats meat, fish, eggs or any of that shit and he is healthier than you. You lose buddy... Sorry, I know you wanted to shit on other peoples life choices but, looks like youre just misinformed.

>>11725607
Spirulina is the highest source of protein in the world. Steak has 24g of protein per serving. Spirulina has 50g. The highest protein dense food on Earth is a plant, bud.

>>11726324
>spirulina
>highest source of protein
>"per serving"
>plant
Considering that almost none of your post was factual, feel free to look up whey protein or any other supplement at your leisure.

Spirulina is neat, but you don't have to lie about it.

>>11726313
Posting some fitness model who is probably equally as "vegan" as Nate Diaz, does not mean you won the argument or made any kind of valid point.

If you are really as gay as you say please stay vegan so l can laugh at you along with all your sickly emaciated vegan comrades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

I'm a vegan and my bones and skin are in good shape, have no nutrient deffecencies and don't really feel hungry. What's up, I thought I was going to get autism, cancer and osteoporosis as soon as I turn vegan!

>>11726609
The fatfuck diabetes in this thread is too stupid to understand diets or health.

>>11726313
You can't be 150% of something, that's mathematically impossible.

>>11726609
It's just fear propaganda and invertion of truth. Ignore them.

>>11726609
>What's up, I thought I was going to get autism, cancer and osteoporosis as soon as I turn vegan!

Another vegan liar IMAGINE MY SHOCK!!!

Every meat eating advocate, carnivore, omnivorous doesn't matter, every one I have seen laughs at the long term veganites, and explains that it takes years and years of Veganism to start doing permanent damage to the human body.

But keep lying, Dishonest people are the right sort of person for Veganism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2srvfuLS8Tg

I also found a very penetrating and insightful expose on milk and milk wrt veganism here it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qliSxsOp8Zg

>>11727316
is this actually sv8rgie trying to promote his channel or something because boy you need to relax a little your sperging out all over the place

>>11727380
No it's not Sv3rige and im just waking up chatting with my frens, fren.

>>11697164

Licensed nutritionist and dietitian here.

I hate hate hate dealing with vegan clients for the sole fact that it is super fucking hard to provide them a delicious diet that varies with every meal while giving them their daily nutritional requirements. I ought to charge them more.

>>11726400
>Probably as
>I cant even bother to go on his website for two seconds and see how much of a hardcore vegan frank Medrano is
>This guy invalidated my entire argument in a few posts, Im upset and cant be bothered to look at new evidence proving Im wrong

Didnt realize I was dealing with a 14 year old.

>>11727316
Frank Medrano is a vegan and is healthier than you, its a simple fact. Its time for you to get off the internet little Timmy, mommy says you have school tomorrow.

>>11701570
Are you dense? Do you not understand the importance of DAILY training and adequate pre-and post-workout nutrition for strength athletes? If veganism is ostensibly so unhealthy, then why has his performance only improved throughout his career instead of sharply degrading after he transitioned from vegetarianism to veganism?

>>11701366
I never said Baboumian was in the league of monsters like Shaw and Bjornsson, but the fact that he's had a successful strength career AT ALL is sufficient vindication of vegan sports nutrition.

>>11701571
>hurrr roids!
They do you no good if you don't put in the effort. And surprise, even an exclusive diet of sirloin and boiled chicken won't get you remotely near the big leagues if you don't use PEDs. EVERY serious competitor roids regardless of diet.

>>11727462
>>11727478
Mods, 11 year olds aren't supposed to be here.

>>11727605
>EVERY serious competitor roids regardless of diet.

This may or may not be true, but, if true, it shows you what absolutely retarded imbeciles veganites are for holding up Derpanium as any kind if roll model or poster boy for Veganism.

Roids = reduced lifespan high risk behaviour.

Not like we needed more proof that all vegan are imbeciles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11727478
> Frank Medrano is ripped because hes vegan, not because he's loaded on HGH

You do realize that the fucker openly blogs about his HGH use and other "hormone" enhancers right?

>>11727716
>Either P or Q is true
>Q is frightening
>Therefore, P is true
Not an argument. Which nutrients were they exactly missing? Are you going to ignore all the people dying from consuming animal products because of unverifiable anecdotes?
>>11727316
So what if they are vegan? They also breath oxygen which isn't unhealthy.

>>11697164
I was vegan 13-20. Loads of dental issues despite proper care, developed ulcerative colitis and had delayed sexual growth (I'm male).going pescitarian after that and now on full meat and dairy, I was able to reverse all of my problems. Having lived through all of this, when I was like fourteen my cumshots and shit were pathetic and weak. Now back to eating like a fucking man I can bust nuts across the room. Chest fur started to develop at the removal of soy, alongside plenty of other things.

vegan diets are to expunge bad shit from your body short term.

>>11728509
same poster
Also i've posted research and studies to death to vegans and they never take it. Once your on the juice you can't come off, and hardcore vegans are exactly the same as flat earthers and nuke denialists. you cannot even talk to them and they are immunized to the reality of how research is done today and why. Don't waste your time and find meat that didn't suffer or care that it had a life to begin with.

>>11728509
>>11728530
Go on. Show the science that proves veganism is bad for your health.

>>11728588
It can be good for you in short bursts for specific things. (Heavy metal detox)

I no longer share any of my studies because they are all 'too old' or 'not good enough sample size' or 'i can't find it on google so no matter that you read it in real life with a medical journal in your hands i don't accept'.

Key things are that testosterone and soy are researched via test in blood since 2000s and that is an incorrect way to perform such studies. Veganism and soy have been pushed since 2000 as co-op government and corporate initiatives to stave off world hunger and utilize soy (which historically was never food even for livestock).

I understand that soy isn't required for vegans, however that is where my own studies overlap. I put a lot of time into my research and because of how disrespected I am for talking about vegan diets being unfit to thrive on, I arrogantly withhold that information now. Go find it yourself like I did or enjoy poor health

>>11728649
>Veganism and soy have been pushed since 2000 as co-op government and corporate initiatives to stave off world hunger and utilize soy
yeah, that's why soy milk is forced on children by our rotten government geez :(

>>11699076
>I know plenty of vegans who aren't withered, dying husks.
That's because they aren't very far along in their starvation journey or they eat absolutely awful processed shit to make up for it. I know a vegan that just eats fuckloads of empty carbs and thinks she is healthy.

>>11727769
>How to make a post without saying anything
>Vegan edition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39uFhAN4MVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzA4TmfqyOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCeA238F_Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dl5z6LWpnc

>>11728802
Vegans live rent free in your bald pinhead

>>11728588
The long term vegan zombies prove that Veganism is terrible for your health. That is proven, shown........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

The only mystery is how these walking dead 'living' corpses think this is healthy. It's like a meth-head culture, with a lot of enthusiasm.

>>11728806
They don't live for long...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXu2mWVTOhc

John Joseph was right when he said meat eating fucks your head

>>11728765
not even remotely related to what I'm talking about, and that topic alone would involve dozens of pages of investigations and studies to go over.

>>11728826
Vegans are longest and healthiest living populations on Earth. But I guess I should start listening to antisocial personality disorder incels on 4chan

>>11728835
There’s nothing related to the lithium deprived ramblings of yours. There is not a more surefire sign of mental degradation than a hate boner obsessive compilation disorder with vegans

she wanted to fuck him so badly

>>11697483
>vegetarian
So he ate animal proteins, and probably got most his protein from animals (whey)

>>11728847
I already said veganism is perfectly valid and healthy in bursts for specific purposes, you can look up what I said - 'Periods of veganism are good for heavy metal detox' and other things.

http://www.soyfoodseminar.com/2018/

Fucking retard. Look up the group and its history. Look up founders and so forth. You're probably inept at investigations, given your attitude. When I started to try and check out medical journals from the 80s and wasn't allowed to see the one only remaining copies shit gets even more scary, because you realize that turds like this inhabiting this thread grew up on the internet. That means they rely on it for all their information. You need to do things in real life too, which I bet zero people but me in this thread have done.

I became vegan as a teenager might I say not for the love of animals I just had a revelation one day that animals live in their own excrement and that's pretty fucking disgusting so I started eating soya instead and by the end of puberty I had grown a pair of tits. now 25 years later I still have tits despite eating pretty much only meat .that damage is irreversible. there should be regular health visits to make sure children are being fed enough meat by their parents and if meat is not found in their system they should be taken into care

>>11728840
>Vegans are longest and healthiest living populations on flat Earth.

>Things I just made up 101

There Are no vegans-from birth in their old age now to even test your OPINION that you just stated above. Veganism is fucking new you imbecile.

And I hardly believe a sado-masochistic self-harm cult is going to be scoring high on longevity lists...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0bJNMFsxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXu2mWVTOhc

>>11728886
Your ramblings continue to be completely incoherent. Did you just discover that lobbies exist or something in your decades of research?

Try making a coherent remark that isn’t a nonsequitir

>>11728886
I just ate some raw Salmon bro does that count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPDna5Qok2Y

my girlfriends best friend has terrible health issues from being mostly vegan. When ever she comes over for dinner I lie and say theirs no animal products in the food it seems to have helped a little bit

>>11728911
you have no brain and should clean my gutters for a living horseface

>>11728927
LOL this stupid monkey fuck just discovered that lobbyists exist. Nice research career, shithead

>>11728924
When she stops by you can "accidently" have these videos playing on a laptop on mute, she might see the light WRT Veganism the white girls suicide club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

>>11723460
That looks like the normal aging process of a 28 year old woman proceeding to 33.

>>11728940
She loves the cute animals to much for that to work. I did convince her to eat eggs from my quails though so thats a start

>>11728955
If she loves animals, you could explain what intensive harvesting and chemical pesticides do to millions of animals for Vegans vegetables crops
https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

Start talking about how pesticides literally kill entire families of Rabbits and nesting foxes and then you can start crying out of your flowing compassion lol. Wondering if that might get through?

>>11728954
>That looks like the normal aging process of a 28 year old woman proceeding to 93
>In five years

Not unusual considering the nutrients deficient vegan "diet"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZsS5UatR4

I love how these threads are always a few vegans getting absolutely fucking assblasted over their mental illness/eating disorder.

>>11729031
oh im so mad!!!! you got me!! im not gonna write walls of text just to show how mad i am!!!

>>11729047
What does he mean by this?

>>11729065
It's another ass-blasted vegan meltdown. You can predict tomorrow's headline lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXu2mWVTOhc

The funny thing is, I’m not even vegan. People who get outraged at vegans are the easiest most spastic lolcows. It reminds me of being on /b/ in 2007 trolling Christian livestreams and seeing them stammering trying to act as smug as possible but raging on the inside
https://youtu.be/eKc1armpGC0

>>11729132
>enlightened centrist

>>11729199
Worked for Talleyrand

>>11729132
Yeah according to (((you))) there are actually no vegans on 4chan. Maybe vegans are imaginary creatures who only "exist" online, because I was just in a grocery store, shelf after shelf of fresh raw beef, chicken and fish lol. And yes I bought some, my money needs to support what I like and destroy what I hate.

>>11729408
Lol this is exactly what I’m talking about. This reads like those old hermit boomers who store thousands of crucifixes in their house. Dance for me, boy