/ck/ - Food & Cooking

steak

>>11664562
don't people tend to cook steaks with garlic?

>>11664559
Eggs Benedict/Florentine

>>11664559
Japanese cooking in general.

are there a lot of lesser known ingredients out there that can make for unique flavors in dishes? or are all world cuisines kind of repetitive?

>>11664574
not Chinese, though. they use so much onion and garlic

>show me tasty food without 4 of the tastiest ingredients

>>11664559
When you say onion and garlic, do you mean all alliums, or can we still use shallot, leek, etc?

Regardless, there is still a lot you could cook inside those restrictions. One kind of off the wall example I can think of would be American camp cooking. Fire grilled meats, sausages, a pot of beans with bacon and chilies, cornbread or hoe cakes, foraged mushrooms, succotash, fish stuffed with herbs, etc.

>>11664595
there simply must be way more ingredients out there. those are just popular flavoring ingredients.

>>11664596
Hmm I guess I just meant the standard onion and garlic.

And that's pretty interesting. There must be more herbs and vegetables that are less commonly used but are still tasty

When tomatoes got introduced it replaced vinegars, berries and tamarinds ans whatnot to provide acidity and sweetness. That doesn't mean they couldn't cook without tomatoes before.

>>11664607
Can I ask where you live? If you want to get around the monotony of repetitive ingredients, maybe you can start hitting up farmer's markets and co ops, buy local ingredients.

Necessity is the mother of invention. If you're stuck buying local, then you will have to make new recipes.

>>11664617
I live in New York. I'm sure I can find different ingredients but I don't know what I should start with

>>11664559
>Can you show me examples of tasty dishes that are made without garlic, tomato, onions, or bell pepper?
Yorkshire puddings are one. The issue with your stuff is that you're using onions which are a basic aromatic that kinda goes really well with just about everything, but if you're looking to do things without it, it'll all work fine. It's useful but it's never been exceedingly necessary. Also you can use shallots for a similar effect. Tomatoes and bell pepper have very particular flavors and textures and it's very easy to do things without them. Garlic is also an aromatic but it isn't as important as onion, I find.

>>11664620
If you live upstate, then I would really recommend hitting farmer's markets when they start to open up in the spring. Take advantage of local beer and wine. Buy a cookbook or three from places you have never been and challenge yourself by picking a recipe at random and attempting it, if you can afford it.

If you live in the city, start going to ethnic restaurants and trying things. If you find things you like, try recreating them. It sounds like you're in a rut and need inspiration.

>>11664620
Man, if you're looking to learn how to cook you learn how to make several hundred declicious dishes not by using uncommon ingredients (this may seem like the most obvious way out) but by pushing the limits of known ingredients and experimenting with combinations. I got much better at cooking in general when I was limited to using cheap meats, rice, onion, garlic, water, stock cubes, salt and pepper, bay leaves, carrots, shoddy beer and wine, and celery than when I had everything at my disposal.

>>11664634
ethnic restaurants tend to have dishes that heavily use the aformentioned ingredients, though. Mexican, Chinese, Indian, Italian, etc., use a lot of onion, garlic, and tomato

>>11664559
Pretty easy. Aside from the tomato in ketchup I don't think most of what I eat even has the ingredients you're talking about.
>Chicken Noodle Soup (the real / original condensed Campbell's kind, not that bullshit other kind with random chunks of carrots and celery ruining it)
>Ramen noodles with soy sauce instead of flavor packet
>Ramen noodles with oil and vinegar instead of flavor packet
>Beef bologna with mayonnaise
>Chicken and pork bologna with mayonnaise
>Spaghetti with parmesan cheese
>Easy mac

>>11664640
you must have the most rancid farts

>>11664638
this

>>11664649
No. That foods all low residue and super-easy on the digestive system actually. I'm guessing you might though since it was the first thing you thought of.

grilled cheese sandwich, nigga.

>>11664559
>This dish is called "Kroopkakor". Best served with some linhonberry and molten butter.

>>11664559
Pork chops and apple sauce.

>>11664568
No

>>11664559
Carbonara

>>11664777
Trips don't lie!

>>11664559
Serve with some potatoes and a fresh sallad of your choice. Of course, in yoyr case, the sallad does not contain either tomatoes or onion.

>>11664785
Standard carbonara has both onion and garlic in it

>>11664559
Cubano

>>11664581

>Japanese
>but not Chinese though

What the fuck man?

>>11664620
Bullshit if you live in NYC and can't find proper ingredients, I call bullshit. Where do you live in DUMBO, most morons live there.

>>11664795
they're close to each other so it's interesting that there's such a sharp contrast. Considering Japan's written language is clearly Chinese influenced

>>11664559
This dish is called "Gravlax med dillstuvad potatis."
What it is, is: cured salmon(Either buy this or make it yourself) with creamed potatoes that has a bunch of dillweed in it as well. Serve with a side sallad, simple greens or just a wedge of lemon for spritzing — up to you. Delicious, simple and, depending on the price of salmon wherw you live, not too harsh on the wallet. If you want me to give you advice on curing the salmon lemme know — been doing it for more than a decade.

>>11664799
Its not that I can't find them, you dumbass. It's that I don't know what exotic ingredients I should be looking for

>>11664801
Oops forgot the pic...

>>11664799
Geez, calm yer tits anon, please. He's just asking for advice, why would he lie?

Is there any interest in cooking pre-colonization recipes? I wonder if there are any gems or if it would all be bland and shit tier

>>11664801
>>11664777
I'm just going to throw this out there: a lot of Swedish food is pretty bland.

>>11664801
>Gravlax
That's jack shit compared to proper smoked Scottish salmon.

>>11664800
Stop posting. You're obviously fucking retarded.

>>11664824
okay, ken-sama

>>11664559
Not the best photo, but it's scallops pan-fried in butter with a touch of cayenne pepper, salt (ofc) butter and a splash of white wine. Works great with pasta and rice alike. I would serve with a gentle primeure like asparagus and a nice glass of whatever wine you used to cook with (that should also be a wine that works well with seafood. A fresh and off-sweet riesling would be my standard recommendation.)

To be quite honest — the sea is your friend ifyou wish to stay clear of those ingredients. There are PLENTY of delicious seafood dishes waiting to be made by you that should work well beyond fine without wither of your listed ingredients.

>>11664825
No, for serious, fuck off homo.

>>11664818
Both are delicious. Some don't enjoy smokiness though.

>>11664815
Well, those two dishes aren't. One is hearty with it's fats and starch and has great acidity with the berries that cut through that very well.

The other dish is mellow but not bland. Dillweed is not a bland flavor, nor is the flavor of Salmon or whatever heebs you use in the curing process.

Not sure why you see eithwr as bland to be honest. Maybe you're just so used to both dishes that they bore you?

>>11664829
yellow fever autist

>>11664824
japanese writing is literally bootleg chinese.

>>11664839
Please stick to /s/ or /soc/ or R9k with this stuff. Thread does not need derailing.

>>11664830
When done properly the smokiness of Scottish smoked salmon is pretty subtle.

>>11664843
Why don't you call the waaambulance?

>>11664839

So Finnish cuisine is the same as the Italian cuisine since their writing systems are both bootleg Latin? Makes PERFECT sense.

any dessert

>>11664818

Smoked salmon tastes like shit.

>>11664851
Shows what you know.
Who are you to argue with an eagle?

>>11664857

No, but for real gravlax is GOAT compared to smoked salmon.

>>11664866
Opinions vary. My mom was into that gravlax until I showed her the shining way of Scottish smoked salmon.

>>11664794
the pork in a Cubano has a tonne of garlic in its marinade

>>11664877
Who cares how the salmon is prepared when the eggs are overcooked as shit.

>>11664792
>wtf

>>11664559
Schnitzel

>>11664915
That's a good name for a dog.

>>11664920

>Ay dawg, schnitzels get schtitchels

>>11664932
That shouldn't have cracked me up but it did

>tasty
this is an adult website

>>11664559
try a turkey heh.

Tom Kha Gai, though that varies by recipe.

>sauteed squash and sausage with a white sauce
>Butter sauteed chard with a dash of lemon juice, salt and pepper
>A salmon filet served with a mango, pineapple, jalepeno and cilantro salsa
>potatoes: mashed, boiled, au gratin, fried, baked
>candied yams
>broccoli and potato beer cheese soup with bacon
>kung pao chicken made with a sweet teriyaki, cashews and celery
>BBQ ribs with cornbread and collard greens
>fried okra
>purple cabbage with apple cider and vinegar
>german style potato salad with vinegar, diced ham/bacon and lemon juice
>...

Dude theres a LOT of food that doesnt use any of that stuff. You should try broadening your comfort zone by trying some new vegetables (swiss chard, turnips and squashes are heavily under appreciated in my opinion) and maybe fresh seafood. Always serve white fish with lemon.

>>11664559
Swedish meatballs
Grilled cheese
Grilled pork chops with asparagas
Ham, swiss, and spinach omlet
Hot wings

>>11664792
No it doesn't, dipshit.

Texan here, none of those things belong in chili.

>>11666278
You on the right.

>>11664574
a shit

>>11664559
Teriyaki marinated pork tenderloins a favorite of mine.
any type of fish either with or without breading
almost anything on a thanksgiving table like cheesy/twice baked potatoes, or a good honey spiral ham

>>11666652
They seem nice

sweet and sour anything
lemon chicken
honey prawns
chocolate cake
meat and 3 veg
lemon puddy
french toast
mickey juice
pancakes
fruit smoothy
frozen yoghurt
i mean i can go on

I'm surprised it's not more common to not use those ingredients.

>>11664559
bread

>>11664559
>repetetive
>eneral
Wrong board, friend.
>>>/int/

>>11664581
>Chinese is a subset of Japanese
Your poor parents

>>11664792
Garlic yes but not onion.

>>11664848
Actually Finnish is closest to Mongolian believe it or not.

>>11664568
You can I guess, but a good steak really doesn't need anything more than salt/pepper.

Honey pineapple chicken on rice

>>11664847

>>11666278
>none of those things belong in chili
What in the fuck? Share your recipe so I can explain how you're retarded.

t. fellow Texan

>>11669202
It's not. It's closest to estonian, then mienkäli then hungarian then mongolian.

>>11664559
Fried fish? Pettole? Moussaka?

>>11664559
>if it has the same ingredients it is repetitive

do you even cook.

faggiest thread this month.

Grilled bratwurst on a bun with stone ground mustard and sauerkraut

>>11664790
I tried googling the image but I couldnt find this. Is there a recipe?

>>11664574
scallions are literally onions

>>11670136
You want a recipe for that picture? Just look at it:
Get lamb chops.
Season them with salt and pepper.
Sear them in a hot pan.
It's exactly the same as cooking ribeye steak, but with lamb instead of beef. Same method, same cut.

>>11670141
Even if you hold an autistic compulsion to lump scallions in with normal onions, most Japanese dishes don't include them.

>>11670146
>most Japanese dishes
literally 90% of popular Japanese dishes do weeb-sama

>>11670142
Thank you. Might make these tonight with creamed potatoes.

>>11670157
so now you're wanting to move the goalposts from "all dishes" to "the popular ones my flyover ass knows about"?

>>11670161
I literally have never been to the American continent

>>11664559

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YQKUFWzmwo&t=1s

dude uses onions in this, but you literally don't have to. And his jam Piroshki is actually pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1UTJKBMvgc

And Kvass to wash it down.

>>11670180
That's fine. Flyover is a state of mind, it does not depend on where you actually live.