/ck/ - Food & Cooking

That's not common, it's just being a picky baby faggot.

>>11596372
watch your language

>>11596377
Watch my dick, bitch.

>>11596381
sure thing let me just use my microscope

>>11596369
You don't need to wait an hour after eating if you want to go swimming.

>>11596415
>it took you 8 minutes to think of this
I handed you the fucking joke, you pissant, at least try not to barrel at it like a fat person into the Wal Mart bakery.

>yo nigga wash yo chicken!
Black people are retarded

>>11596369
Repeating shit from Good Eats as though it's some kind of knowledge anybody here doesn't already knows should warrant a ban.

>>11596434
>doesn't knows
brainlet

>I need to eat everyday!
No, you don't. Your body doesn't need nor want to constantly digest food, which it does if you eat everyday. Let it rest and repair.

eggs influence blood cholesterol

>>11596426
suck it bitch

>>11596574
Let me just get my magnifying glass first

>>11596426
Kek microdick detected

>>11596369
Salted butter doesn't make things taste better by itself, but because Americans undersalt their cooked foods to begin with

>you need to drink water everyday

Not even remotely true. You can drink coffee or even beer for that sake.

>>11596544
Disprove this

>>11596583
hold on let me just get my binoculars

>>11596369
The "don't wash mushrooms" advice i for people who wash their produce before putting them in the fridge. If you wash mushrooms and then put them in the fridge for a few hours or a day, they will get slimy.

>>11596609
actually regular soda will be completely fine and it tastes better, too!

>>11596615
That's just a graph dude. How can you prove something with just a picture?

Anyway I think in cholesterol is included saturated acid fats which they actually increase cholesterol blood level. Aside from that in non abnormal range (200) cholesterol is pretty insignificant for health concerns.

>>11596583
dick in your mouf

mushrooms are grown in literal shit and piss

They use chicken manure and urea to grow them, that people don't wash their mushrooms is what's disgusting.

>>11596426
Dicklet spotted

>>11596644
It’s a graph of a meta analysis of dozens of studies showing dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterol. Did I actually have to explain that for you? Do you have any evidence to disprove it?

>Anyway I think in cholesterol is included saturated acid fats
Oh YOU think so!! Thanks for your worthless fucking input despite the fact CLEARLY says DIETARY CHOLESTEROL shithead

>Aside from that in non abnormal range (200) cholesterol is pretty insignificant for health concerns.
So does it increase it or not? You also apparently can’t read that fucking third grade level graph that explains changes in serum cholesterol depend on your baseline cholesterol

Maybe you should just close the toilet seat of your fat mouth instead of just letting shit flow out of it?

>>11596432
My mom does this and she's a retarded white woman

>>11596426
I have a penis too.

>>11596535
If you did literally anything but sit on your ass, you need to eat every day.

>>11596615
Serum cholesterol does not correlate with plaque in the artery. It does correlate with people with higher risk eating habits, such as smoking, high refined carbs, oral sex, n’such.

>>11596369
Do people really not wash mushrooms? When I buy them, they come covered in dirt.

>>11596818
You can move the goalposts anywhere you want. You lose everytime

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.cir.0000103664.47406.49

>Sugar is good for you if it's in fruits and vegetables!
Sugar is a literal poison that humans weren't meant to ingest, you are a drug addict trying to justify his addiction.

>>11596785
Nope.

>>11596846. What diet were the people given?

>>11596837
That's not dirt, friend

>>11596426
Microdick tantrum

>>11596710
>meta analysis in the field of nutrition studies

Yo that's a big red flag dawg

>>11596927

>>11596659
>he doesn't eat wood-loving mushrooms instead of shit-loving mushrooms

>>11596871
Ahh the wonders of american education

>>11596927
It pasteurized manure, PAsTURIZED

>>11596432
Julia Child popularized this.

>>11596938
You don’t even know what you just said

>>11596904
Literally does not matter. You just said serum cholesterol didn’t correlate and it does, or does serum cholesterol from carbs magically correlate where actual cholesterol doesn’t?

>>11596871
People who are giving 20 servings of fruit a day show no adverse effects, and additionally had a 38 point drop in LDL cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11288049/

Fruit restriction offered no benefits in type 2 diabetics whereas ample fruit consumption did as it improved glycemic control
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23497350/

Industrial/pure fructose NOT whole fruit is unhealthy
https://www.journal-of-hepatology.eu/article/S0168-8278(13)00553-9/fulltext

Blueberries’ polyphenols decreases oxidation postpandrially in a high carb meal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22935321/

Polyphenols in strawberries and apples decrease glucose uptake
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20564476/

Black currant and lingoberries significantly slow glycemic response wheh consumed with pure sucrose, as well as optimizing overall metabolic responses to sucrose consumption
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22854401/

Ample doses of fruit lower glycemic response in high GI meals
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3411192/

Blueberries blunt insulin response even when consumed with white bread
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23365108/

Moderate fruit diet far superior to low fruit diet especially in weight management
https://www.metabolismjournal.com/article/S0026-0495(11)00095-3/fulltext

17 servings of fruit a day offered no adverse effects and even improved weight management, blood pressure, insulin, and lipid levels
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/5573330/

>don't rinse mushrooms they absorb the water
>ok now cook the water out of the mushrooms

>>11596432
>>11596711
>>11596993
washing anything is a exercise in futility. you ever peel a sticker off an apple and see a bunch of residue left behind? then you take it to the sink to wash it off but it requires a bit of scrubbing to get off? do you honestly believe germs will just fall the fuck off the giant clump of spinach you're rinsing? not going to happen. the reason we're told to wash our vegetables is to create deniable culpability. if someone gets poisoned, and it's guaranteed to happen, especially if you're poor and shop at places with shit hygiene, people can say "well, he should have washed his vegetables." it's bullshit!

>>11597008

>>11596369
>you shouldn't salt eggs before cooking
>you have to temper eggs for custard
>a larger pot of water returns to the boil faster when you add pasta
>adding oil to butter stops it burning
>searing meat seals the juices in
>the alcohol all cooks off
>avoid cured meat because of the nitrates
>throw out any mussels that don't open
>raw vegetables are more nutritious
>stale bread goes hard because it dries out
>removing the seeds makes chillies less hot
>braised meat can't get dry
>food fried at a high enough temperature absorbs less oil
>salting beans makes them tough
>you can't add water to melted chocolate
>lard is less healthy than butter
>marinades penetrate meat

>>11596417
You do, my uncles died from that

>>11597029
Soyboy cuck npc beta

>>11596609
You must have a shit skin.

>>11596426
Small penor alert

>>11597019
The reason to wash vegetables and fruits is to get rid of any chemical residue that may be left behind, not to disinfect it

i've never heard that washing mushrooms makes them lose their flavor, i heard it makes them wet and soggy, which is truth

>>11597047
what's the point if you buy organic

>>11597055
Because "organic" is a fuzzy term that is loosely regulated.

You also don't HAVE to wash anything. It's just that's why should people do it. Your organic kale isn't harmed by some water

>>11597055
Organic doesn’t mean pesticide or poo free

>>11597080
>>11597082
feds

>>11596369
so hard to get the little things truly clean

>>11597037
>stale bread goes hard because it dries out
That's not what happens?

>>11596426
Is your life so devoid of social interaction that you assume other people constantly refresh the same thread to see if they got a reply? Are you so far removed from reality that this is how you go about your life?

>>11596785
Maybe if you are bulking, but many athletes go 4-6 days of long term fasts for cutting

>>11597220
The hardness is from starch recrystallising, which will happen even if the bread is perfectly sealed. Cold, like keeping the bread in a fridge, and absorption of moisture from the air can speed up the process. If you deliberately dry out bread (to make breadcrumbs for example), you get bread that's crisp and brittle, but not tough like stale bread.

>>11597003
It does matter if cholesterol is not the main cause but the food delivering it, and the habits of groups most inclined to eat them

>>11597352
>Serum cholesterol does not correlate with plaque in the artery

>okay it does but so what?

You.

Lose.

Every.

Single.

Time.

>>11597037
>you shouldn't salt eggs before cooking
I think this one is true. It sweats the moisture out of them as they cook and changes the texture.
>removing the seeds makes chilis less hot
That's true, removing the placenta from the chili also makes it less hot. Most of the capsaicin is in the seeds and placenta.
Try making two soups or chilis or something, and boil your peppers with the seeds. Then try a batch without them. You'll notice a difference.

>>11596426
I'll bet he spent that whole 8 minutes racking his brain for a comeback too.

>>11597373
The first one is probably arguable, because it tends to make eggs more tender, which some people might not want. Chilli seeds don't contain any capsaicin though, the reduced heat is just because some of the pith is inevitably removed with them.

>>11597372
It caused arterial inflammation caused by refined carbohydrates.

i rinse them lightly and give them a rubbing to get some of the dirt off. they're usually pretty clean but here and there you'll find a smudge of junk. i assume they're grown in sterile soil, given fungi's tendency to go bad if there's even a little bit wrong with the soil.

>>11597404
Cool speculative non-sequitir. Now tell me again how serum cholesterol does not correlate with plaque and atherosclerosis? Keep in mind we’ve established dietary cholesterol RAISES serum cholesterol

>>11596997
Yup. Meta analyses are only as good as the studies they're studying and the field of dietary/nutritional "sciences" is rife with speculation due to a lack of a reliable source of subjects who can be made to follow directions in a scientifically rigorous manner. Meta analyses are better for other fields where the general quality of the studies available are more rigorous.

>>11596644
How can you prove something with just text?

>>11596960

>>11596871
>higher primates
>not meant to consume fruit
What did he mean by this?

>>11597609
Not the other anon, but I already live in the best country on earth, so there's no need to be jealous

>>11596710
It also shows that dietary cholesterol has a rapidly decreasing effect once your serum cholesterol levels pass the normal range, i.e. it will improve low cholesterol levels, but doesnt really cause high levels.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199103283241306#t=article
"Dietary cholesterol has an important effect on the cholesterol level in the blood of chickens and rabbits, but many controlled experiments have shown that dietary cholesterol has a limited effect in humans. Adding cholesterol to a cholesterol-free diet raises the blood level in humans, but when added to an unrestricted diet it has a minimal effect."
Ancel Keys, Ph.D.
University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN

>>11597672
We have the best food too

>>11596785
t. a delusional fatass who gets no exercise and walks minimal distances tries to justify his obese eating habits
You especially would be better off not eating daily.

>>11596415
Based

>>11596659
Pasteurized shit and likely wood chips or sawdust. If you're afraid of a little cooked mushroom composted chicken shit, you're the chicken shit. Also get into better mushrooms, buttons are garbage tier.

>>11597373
>That's true
Not really, removing the seeds only doesn't do a thing, removing the placenta and especially the capsaicin glands does.

Wait what, should you really not wash your chicken? Why?

>>11600673
3 reasons
>its already as clean as its gonna get cold water is not a sanitation method
>cold water is not a sanitation method AND in fact will spread possible germs wherever it splashes
>unless your breading your chicken you want the skin as dry as possible so it crisps nice and even.

>>11600424
>take jalapeno seeds
>eat them
>claim you don't taste anything
am i a big man now

>>11596659
All foods are grown in literal shit and piss.

>>11597055
>falling for the "organic" meme sticker label

Nigger unless you're growing your own crops then that's the closest thing to organic you'll ever have and even then you'll wanna rinse your fruits and vegetables after you see how much nature shit gets covered in them

>>11596659
And you think just rinsing them off with water magically makes it better?

>>11596369
It barely makes a difference if you do it right before hand but if you're one of those folks that washes everything before they put it in the fridge they get slimy and gross

>>11596544
dietary cholesterol affects blood cholesterol. it's temporary and genetics are a much bigger factor, but it happens

>>11596871
tropical fruits are a primary food source for primates don't be silly

>>11596426
seething

>>11596369
Mushroom story
>take adult continuing education cooking course at learning tree, to meet chicks.
>lesson on using mushrooms and making mushroom dishes.
>final exam is make a dish at home and bring it in for class to grade.
>Stacy the cheerleader brings in stuffed mushroom thing
>stinks of some sort of chemical, da fuq is dat shit?
>instructor chef dares to take a taste
>eyes pop out of head, spit food on floor
>stacy, wat u do to 'shrooms?
>stacy says, "well, they're grown in compost made from cow poop, so I soak dem overnight in Lysol to sterilize and make good.
Lesson is, Stacys only good to fuq, not cook.

>>11596432
Only faggot mayo people do this.

>>11596659
Ever had wine? Well congrats. You've consumed urea. It's used as a nutrient for the yeast.

>>11596426
im sure you just spent 8 minutes looking for your dick because you lost it in your pubes again

>Wash Potatoes don't cook or eat them before you wash them

>>11601492
kek, that sounds like something some fucker from here would do

>>11596426
How are you this much of a beta?

>>11596369
>these are all different mushrooms
It's a deep state conspiracy, they're all the same mushroom at different stages!

>>11596544
I eat eggs every other day and I feel very very healthy so I never got this

>>11597423
>>11597372
Not that guy but if you have to resort to telling a guy he's "lost" then you're clearly trying to avoid discussion ;<) I wonder why... hehhe

>>11597295
>many athletes go 4-6 days of long term fasts for cutting
>many athletes
Only autismo bodybuilders and wrestlers desperate to make weight do that.

>>11597019
you are not washng the germs you colossal faggot, you are washing off things like dust and possible poison or animals peeing or leaving feces on the spinach

>>11596621
>>11596369
There are a few classifications of mushrooms we need to keep in mind when debating this point: Saprotrophic and Mycorrhizal mushrooms.
Saprotrophs, or decomposers, live off tree bark or other living things and this affects their flavor. They are more "meaty" and full in appearance, and cover things like normal white button and shiitake mushrooms, morels, oyster mushrooms, creminis and puffballs. You don't really want to submerge these mushrooms in water or run them under a sink because they will absorb it through their porous, spongy skin and this dilutes the flavor of the mushroom, and can also ruin the texture, making it waterlogged and mushy.

The second type, Mycorrhizal mushrooms, are more spindly and delicate, like chanterelles and porcinis. These can take a very quick rinse because they aren't as porous and won't be as quick to absorb water.

Either way you don't really need to wash mushrooms. Just wipe the dirt away with a wet cloth to avoid compromising the cellular structure and flavor.

>>11601492
Sounds creative and on the same hand really fucking stupid.

>you can catch a monkey with a cherry pie
>salt on a bird's tail renders it flightless
>lard makes a good sex lube
>onion dip penetrates a potato chip
>sports drink are just sissy pop
>bubbles in Coke can kill a baby
>cast iron skillets were first designed as weapons
>ketchup on a hot dog will one day be considered haute cuisine
>butcher knives were originally used by bakers
>you once needed a prescription to buy M&M's
>orange marmalade was found in the Egyptian pyramids
>the egg came first
>Ovaltine is actually round
>whales always sing for their supper

>>11604956

>>11597008
That said, eating only fruit will probably kill you. It's probably what gave Steve Jobs pancreatic problems that became cancerous. It hospitalized Ashton Kutcher when he tried to method act Steve Jobs' life.

>>11597049
Alton Brown did a pretty definitive test on that, weighing before and after washing, and the difference was negligible.

And no, it does not make them "wet and soggy." Which is especially a dumb thing to worry about if you're going to be cooking them, since once they reach stage two they'll express pretty much all of the water they have anyways.

>>11597082
It must be noted that the pesticides that are considered "organic" can be a lot more poisonous than synthetic ones.

>>11596369
your %water argument is retarded but the point still stands, it's the flesh of the shroom that's good, not some magic powder on top of it that goes away with rinsing
in fact pretty much nothing lose favor with rinsing

>Do X to Y all the juices inside

>>11605063
>in fact pretty much nothing lose favor with rinsing

The argument has nothign to do with "losing flavor". It has to do with ruining the food in question.

Go rinse some bread and see what happens, despite none of the flavor vanishing.

>>11600727
they make contact with the hottest part of the chili, if you washed them with something they wouldn't taste spicy. Sort of like your hands would be spicy because you touched some chili.

>>11604956

>>11605094
Mushrooms aren't bread, they do not react to water like bread, and even a full-immersion rinse doesn't do anything serious to them if you use them immediately.

You're a moron spouting old wives tales.

>>11597038
I think there's a few nuggets of info missing from that anon

>>11605432
>Mushrooms aren't bread, they do not react to water like bread, and even a full-immersion rinse doesn't do anything serious to them if you use them immediately.
That's right. And that's exactly what OP stated. Want to know WHY it's true? Water doesn't harm mushrooms BECAUSE they are 95% water. Water harms dry foods, not ones which are already wet.

I can't believe I had to spell that out for you.

>>11605913
I think you are attacking the wrong person and/or are illiterate.

Guessing this is the most appropriate thread to ask this iin but do all variants of soy boost estrogen? I know lecithin is in a lot since it helps preserve shit but not sure if its bad

>>11606558
Ask over at /pol/ or listen to alex jones and you'll get the answers you so desperately crave.

>>11596426
Lmao you're a fucking seething dicklet

>don't wash mushrooms
>the fungus that loves literal shit and is covered in dirt

>>11601492
Holy shit lmao.

>>11604956

>>11606558

Soy can boost estrogen levels but typically fermentation breaks these compounds down, so Soy Sauce and Miso won't really boost estrogen.

>>11596426
t.dicklet

>>11596659
mushrooms have been grown in sterile grain substrate for the last 30+ years, grandpa

>>11596947
plywood oysters are best oysters