/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11589432
fell for the what?

You sound like a weak fuck

>>11589432
There's a reason the stuff brewed in Moka pots is supposed to be served in espresso cups, anon.

>>11589500
Excuse me, can you elaborate on what you meant by this post?

>>11589502
drink less

>>11589500
nah uh. you can serve it in a larger cup as part of a cortado

>>11589432
lmao. you prolly put the stove on full blast too.

>>11589432
Have you considered drinking only one espresso at a time?
Failing that, only put 1 espresso in the pot and drink an over-expressed long-black.

>>11589432
dose less..

>>11589432
What's the difference between moka and mocha?

>>11592240
spelling

>>11589432
Moka pots are fucking killer. Im seriously up to about 20 oz of el dorado espresso a day from my trusty moka. Dont believe that bs that you cant use a moka to make espresso.

Make sure you wash the entire thing piece by piece after every use.

>>11589432
american coffee contains way more caffeine than an espresso. You're just drinking too much coffee.

>>11589432
>drink 4 cups of coffee in one sitting
Gee I wonder why

>>11589432
You just can't handle caffeine

>>11589500
oh bullshit lol (modulo individual caffeine tolerance)

tfw 2 x 6-cup moka pot brews most mornings
tfw dad has been drinking 1-2 6-cup moka pot brews errday for the last 40 years

>>11594183
>Make sure you wash the entire thing piece by piece after every use.
why?

with the aluminum ones there's a meme that you're not supposed to wash them ever, but on the other hand I know a fair few people who do this and they're just fine.

>>11596009
The way you treat coffee makes you seem like a fucking junkie, anon

>>11596060
if I were burglarizing households and sucking dick in order to pay for muh light roast yrgacheffe I suppose you'd have a point

otherwise, okay, and...?

>>11596086
You should learn to actually enjoy what you're drinking instead of abusing it as a drug

>>11594183
>>11596009
I clean after every use but I just rinse with water. No soap because I don’t wanna risk any soap residue making my coffee taste like shit

>>11594183
>>11596130
Based and Alzheimers pilled

>>11596115
Bud, if I didn’t enjoy it, I wouldn’t drink so much of it. In fact, I probably wouldn’t drink any at all. Also, mind your own damn business.

>>11596155
Stainless steel master race here

>>11596223
WOah take it easy buddy you seem tense

>>11594183
I read this as though you were talking really fast. Heh.

>>11596569
kek

>>11596223
Yeah, mine's a stainless as well.

>>11596223
>>11597480

What stainless pot do y'all use? I've been looking into getting a Moka Pot, but I've been debating whether or not to get a Bialetti or just a good reviewed stainless one.

>>11597702
I personally would have trouble trusting a random one with the risk that the seal could be bad and burst

>>11596155
Not how that works.

>>11589432

>>11597702
I have the Bialetti Kitty. Works fine. Actually, I think they're a little bit worse than the aluminum ones for arcane heat-transfer reasons or something, but nothing insurmountable.

Also induction-compatible, I believe, which is nice.

>>11594183
>Dont believe that bs that you cant use a moka to make [shitty dark coffee that morons think is real] espresso.
ftfy pal.

>>11600000
CHECKED

>>11600000
must be true

>>11600000
Moka fags eternally BTFO

I've drank a 6-cup moka almost daily for probably close to a year now. Very rarely I'll get the shakes for some reason, but otherwise, I don't see any reason to use any other brewing method. One full mug diluted with some water is all I need all day.

>>11596009
>tfw 2 x 6-cup moka pot brews most mornings
Isn't that like 1200mg of caffeine? I guess everyone is different and some people would be fine with that but the recommended limit is 300-400mg per day and even that makes some people have headaches.

>>11599944

How's the boiling chamber for that one? I was looking up some reviews for their stainless lineup and while there are several good ones, there are also some bad stories in terms of the chamber corroding and breaking. The breaking I'm sure stemmed from some idiot fucking it up, but the corroding issue worries me. Of course they also could have bought a bootleg pot off.

>>11589432
You could just use decaff if you still like the taste but don't want so much caffeine.

>>11600344
looks fine to me. there may be have been some qc issues in the past, or as you say boot leg product

>>11600319
>Isn't that like 1200mg of caffeine?
Probably not: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/89ye42/how_much_caffeine_is_there_in_a_moka_pot_espresso/

inb4 >reddit, poast a better source

based on how it makes me feel relative to preworkout caffeine pills with a known dose, I'd put it somewhere in the 300-600mg range.

fwiw international society of sports nutrition, not exactly known for gonzo damn-the-torpedoes up-the-dose attitudes, cites 3-6 mg/kg bodyweight as a low to moderate dose: https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-7-5.. I weigh around 85 kg these days, so there you go.

>>11601108
>Isn't that like 1200mg of caffeine?
>Probably not
Yeah I didn't realize that each cup was about 2 oz, and that it's not the 8 oz measurement cup.

>>11589500
This. Also you degenerates don't realize that everyone has a different caffeine tolerance which includes not only dosage but also how fast do you drink your cup. You can get overdosed on the same cup of cafa when you drink it at once vs drinking it for 40 minutes in a closed cup.

>>11602155
>spending 40 minutes on one cup of coffee
People don't actually do this right?

>>11602226
they do if they went to starbucks just for the free wifi

>>11603038
>they do if they went to starbucks just for the free wifi
This was my life for a year, I'd work out of starbucks in whatever city I was in, nearly every day. Just nursing a vente latte for a few hours.

>>11589432
Use a dark roast like espresso or french, I can drink down my 20oz moka pot brewed with a nice french roast without issue, a 12 oz light roast and I debate the emergency room. Darker the roast, the less caffeine.

>>11597702
I got a great stainless 20 years ago, some Italian company that I have been trying to find again for ages, it begins with an 'L' and that is all I know. Anyone know it? It makes great coffee, much better than any other moka pot I have tried and I really would like to get one of their smaller pots for those times when i do not want 20 ounces.

>>11602226
>>11603038
>>11604091
Incorrect. You can make a large cup of coffee and put it into an insulated bottle or a cup and drink it for 2 hours if you want to. Especially if you work outside or you are moving. Much better home prepared vs that 15 dollars bullshit they will give you in Jewbucks.

>>11604190
Huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpyBYuu-wJI
watch this OP
and play around with grind size, I found going coarser than pour over works great. You can tell by how it cascades out the spout it just just rise and run down the sides.

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>>11589432
moka pots aren't a meme you retard
I guess if you want shit coffee and don't appreciate good coffee you'd consider them a meme

>>11604631
What part of any of those posts was incorrect?

>>11594414

>>11604641

>>11606864
anon you have horrible reading comprehension

>>11604811
one shot of espresso is 55mg, a 6oz cup of coffee is 68
I mean clearly if you drink an equivalent volume of espresso as regular drip coffee then yeah that's more caffeine, but I don't think people in Italy drink 20 shots a day

>>11604190
>You can make a large cup of coffee and put it into an insulated bottle
Yeah, starbucks will love it when I sit there and drink the coffee I made back in my hotel room.
From the beans and aeropress I lug around with me everywhere.

When you live out of a suitcase/pack, you don't carry extra weight. Even an aeropress is extra junk and weight that I don't need.
The point of drinking starbucks isn't the coffee itself (though I've not seen a convenient and portable solution for steaming milk) but paying rent for the table, wifi and power to work all day on my laptop.

>>11607016
That is a VERY broad generalization, how much caffeine is in any cup depends on the bean and the roast. You can make espresso with light roast and you will have a silly amount of caffeine in that shot, just as you can make that 6 ounce cup of coffee with a dark roast and have very little caffeine.

Every now and then I like to load my moka pot with a light roast, shit makes you fly.

>>11607016
>I don't think people in Italy drink 20 shots a day
We usually drink around 3~5 a day: one at breakfast, one around mid morning (optional because of time constraints, and because it's too close to breakfast or lunch), one at lunch, one at mid afternoon, one at dinner (optional because it might make going to sleep difficult).

>>11589432

>>11592240
Moka is a type of coffee maker, sometimes also called a macchinetta
Mocha is a city in Yemen, which the moka pot is named after
Mocha is also short for cafe mocha or mocaccino, an espresso based beverage also named after the city of Mocha

>>11604190
The stuff i make with my moka pot tastes way worse a few hours later. It turns more acidic for some reason, i guess it oxidates. Shame because it makes too much to drink in one go.

>>11609088
Get a smaller moka

what size moka for a single person? do you need a special grinder?

>>11610081
Depends on how much coffee you want.
A 6 espresso cups pot will fill a mug but have you bouncing off the walls
2 or 3 cup pot will give you a decent sip of strong coffee

You'll need a conical burr grinder but that's something you need for every kind of coffee maker except Ethiopian

>>11589432
>get excited for weeks to get mokapot
>leaks out the sides

Imagine overdosing of caffeine like a faggot

>>11610878
If you mean it leaks where it screws together when it is heated up, make sure there are no coffee grounds on the lip/gasket and that you are not over filling. You could just have a bad gasket as well.

>>11589432
100% placebo.

Fun fact: espresso (and espresso-style coffee) actually has markedly LESS caffeine than regular coffee, per unit volume. Also dark-roasted coffee has way less caffeine than light roast.

>>11611084
Thanks for the advice. I didn't think there were grinds on the gasket or screw. I'll try filling less, I also need to see if a coarser grind helps it

>>11600000
He tells the truth, a moka pot can't even get past 1 bar of pressure while an espresso machine can do 9bars and give you real espresso.

>>11611108
>dark roast has less caffeine
Boomer meme

>>11608944
>Mocha is also short for cafe mocha or mocaccino, an espresso based beverage also named after the city of Mocha
In Australia, a Mokka is a half coffee, half hot chocolate. Don't ask.
Unless you're in Melbourne, then people have to ask because Mokka coffee pots are very popular there because of the old Italian immigrants and their shops that sell shitloads of mokka pots and Illy and Lavezza coffee.

>>11609088
>Shame because it makes too much to drink in one go
I prefer a long black with a little milk, so I make a six cup Mokka but only put in half the coffee powder, it basically ends up as a 3-shot cup diluted with an extra 3 shots of water, then I add a little milk.
Technically, I think it's 3 over-expressed shots but since the pressure doesn't get supeor high in mokka pots, it doesn't cause the kind of weird stuff that happens when you over-express with a proper espresso machine.
It just ends up perfect for me.

>>11610878
>>leaks out the sides
Like >>11611084 said, check the seal. You may not be tightening it enough either though it shouldn't require more than hand-tightening. Replacement seals are a thing for a reason and in theory they need replacing once a year or so but nobody I know has ever replaced theirs EVER.

If it leaks from the little hole in the side then you're over filling the water, that's a pressure valve to prevent it exploding if you overfill the water, just fill up to the inside of that hole and no more.
It could also just be a shit pot with poor quality thread or bad manufacturing tolerances, lots of things. If you can't solve this, take it back to the shop. It's not supposed to be happening.

>>11611432
It will be true though, caffeine breaks down under high heat, over-roasting will reduce caffeine.

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>>11611598
Sounds like y'all just got lazy and said fuck it, close enough

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>>11608000
Yes. Being on the move limits you to some plastic v60 and a pre-grinder coffee so you end up with a similar or worse shit like Starbucks. I used to drink instant coffee for a while when traveling since there is no practical way to make coffee properly with such limited space. How long / how often do you need to order in Starbucks before they kick you out??
>>11609088
I said you can make a bigger cup and drink it while hot in an insulated cup. For maybe 60 min tops. Every coffee will taste like shit when it gets cold and sits for too long.

>>11611598
I'm surprised you have internet out there in the middle of the bush. The rest of us know the difference between mocha and moka. All of us.

>>11611623
>It will be true though, caffeine breaks down under high heat, over-roasting will reduce caffeine.

Not quite, it tends to be true because most drink light or medium roasts, and the espresso will have less caffeine than a cup of either of those, assuming the espresso was not made with a light or medium roast.

All roasting destroys caffeine, the darker the roast the less caffeine, it is not 'over roasted,' it is just roasted.

>>11589432
... ??? I need that just to get going.

>>11612246
>there is no practical way to make coffee properly with such limited space
What is a French press?

>>11611769
I literally had a dark chocolate tim tam 15 minutes ago but other than that, nothing there is me.
Can't tell what's in the white bowl though so maybe.
What's with the phone? Is there something specifically australian about phones?

And nobody eats faery bread outside of children's birthday parties, I didn't even like it when I was a child.

>>11612246
>Every coffee will taste like shit when it gets cold and sits for too long.
Cold brew you dork
Japnese cold brew you dork
Vacuum extraction you dork

>>11611851
A mocha in Australia is literally a half/half long black/milk hot chocolate. It's not recent either, it's been around for several decades so it probably predates the mocacchino.

>>11612246
>How long / how often do you need to order in Starbucks before they kick you out??
I haven't tested it but if I have a vente cup next to my laptop and I order another after I come back from lunch, I can work all day there without getting any glares or anything.
In Hong Kong, I think the wifi code only lasts an hour so that's an issue but there are plenty of co-working spaces there so its not a big deal.

>>11612426
>What is a French press?
Not something you can use in a cockpit, which is where my pilot buddy used to make his coffee. He brought some kind of pocket grinder, an aeropress and his own beans from his favourite roaster.
He worked in Asia and they generally didn't even let the aircrew off the plane between flights and the onboard coffee was instant 3in1.

>>11612556
I like that room temp forgotten cup, but everything between that and scalding is kinda eh.

The stainless insulated french press may just be the greatest thing coffee ever produced.

>>11611623
Incorrect, it's a myth do your research

>>11612564
a french press is smaller and safer than an aeropress.

>>11612615
Not a myth, depends on how it is roasted. Many roasters roast hot and keep the beans moving, this breaks down caffeine, others roast at low temps for longer periods.

Big roasters are more likely to do the high temp quick roast and caffeine will be destroyed.

Not even espresso makers get the temp up high enough to destroy caffeine though.

only soylent drinking weaklings drink coffee

>>11589432
FYI, if you don't keep the little fuckers clean they can become quite explosive. Literally. Super critical steam is nothing to fuck with.

>>11612667
huh?

>>11612689
heh

If you haven't levelled up to turkish yet you should probably consider killing yourself and start over in your next life since you've probably been doing everything wrong in this one (and I mean everything).

- not too caffeeinated
- rich textureful flavour
- looks fantastic
- takes skill and hands on ability to make
- you keep learning and improving with every cup you make
- tastes like the fruits of your own labour, as every preparations requires your time and undivided attention
- will make you feel like a sexy bearded nomad beduin

>>11612864
>just boil it bro
You need to kill yourself now

>>11604108
Is it Lagostina by any chance?

>>11612864
why is he making that coffee on a gas stove? if you don't use hot sand you have nowhere to hide the pipes.

>>11612864
>drinking roachspresso
>it takes skill to lift a pot off heat every few seconds
Vacuum siphon master race, the true pinnacle of coffee brewing.

>>11589432
I drink a 12fill every day...

>>11589432
Fucking Americans, goddamn

>>11608669
>ywn have a big titty vampire to nibble-suck your blood
feels bad senpai