/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>buy some frozen peppers and an onion
>TJ cashier: "Oooh making some fajitas!?"

>buy 3 tubes of toothpaste
>TJ cashier: "Someone sure likes a clean mouth!"

>buy a couple six packs of beer
>TJ cashier: "Looks like someone is having a party! haha"

>>11565589
aight dat gon be $124.34

scan yo card again i hit da wrong button

>>11565565
One thing I admire about the way TJ treats its employees on top of paying them above minimum wage is how they rotate positions on the floor. Every few months the cashiers trade with stocking people who trade with deli people etc. it prevents people from burning out and makes people work together as a team. I rarely shop there though because I don’t live near one.

Also I’d say grocery outlet bargain market gives TJ a run for its money in the based department on its prices alone. The food is surprisingly high quality, especially the produce which tends to be “b grade”, which is totally fine, just usually irregularly shaped or slightly undersized which I don’t give a shit about.

>>11565565
>Alcohol
Cheap
>House wine
Acceptable
Food is surprisingly cheap compared to vons or ralphs. Traitor Johns is no1

>>11565613
>Eyo, you sayd debit, rai? Nah? Oh, my ba, try dat agin.

>>11565653
Y’all take EBT right?

>>11565589
Legit I wore a sadboys hat once and they said
"Oh don't worry, she'll come back to you"

They're like npcs irl.

>>11565681
>wearing a sadboys hat
>calling someone else an NPC

Yikes

>>11565565
Aldi is a better version, you miss the samples and the hipster-approved packaging but the same shit is a buck cheaper and the workers get paid as much but aren't expected to make everyone's day miserable with fake small talk

>>11565681
"How dare you assume my sexuality!"

>>11565669
>Y’all take EBT right?
That's all we take.

for years i thought it was "Traitor Joe's"

>>11565800
Checked

>>11565809
I'm wh*te and use EBT which is why I only shop in places with self-checkout to hide my shame.

>>11565809

THANKS OBAMA!!

>>11565821
>white and on EBT
Then you aren't really white at all are you?

>>11565565
Nope I love TJs. I don't buy my staples there but I get the convenience food, cheese, wine, and other fun shit. Freakanomics Radio did an episode about them the other day which talks about their success with their unconventional methods. Pretty interesting, check it out.

>>11565827
>THANKS OBAMA!!

As a gen x'er, I'm hoping I'll be dead by 2050, when shit really hit's the fucking fan.

>>11565831
A bad divorce and legal fees put me in the state I'm in.

>>11565846

You married a white woman didn't you? There's your mistake.

>>11565827
Not like the 2008 financial crisis had anything to do with that...
>>11565831
See picture.

>>11565821
Honestly I don’t mind people getting help when they need it at all. I would never look down on someone down on thier luck who needed help paying for food(ie groceries). However I wagecucked at Pizza Hut in high school and half the customers were people of a certain racial persuasion who ate there 2-3 times a week(If not more) and paid with EBT. I worked there for a year and a half and saw the same people over and over. I don't think EBT should be eligible for use at restaurants, even fast food.

Also the EBT customers tended to be among the rudest and most entitled customers who constantly asked for free shit. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

>>11565856
Don't try to reason with Trumptards. They don't have the capacity.

>>11565856
>2008 financial crisis

*Bailouts fo all muh wall street niggas & CEOs*
*Free shiet fo all muh welfare niggas looking for a handout*

Yep. That's how you spend 10 Trillion in just 8 years.

>>11565856

Yeah, Obama bailing out all his wall street cronies cost us quite alot. Millienals will be paying for that shit for the rest of their lives.

>>11565856
>61% of the population and 40% of snap recipients

Vs

>13% of the population and 25% of snap recipients

Hmmmmm

>>11565868

No, people understand very well Obama spent trillions of taxpayer dollars to save his wall street crook buddies who caused this financial crisis in the first place. Gotta pay your dues to those that got you elected.

>>11565873
The rate was increasing when he went into office. He literally did inherit bush's mess

>>11565856
Next post the per-race proportion of people on EBT instead of total population.

>>11565876

This. There have been large recessions in US history. There has never been a government paid for bail out on the scale of Obama's bailouts.

>>11565876

Don't forget Obamacare on top of the already unsustainable medicare + medicaid. That shit's a fucking mess that will cost us trillions in the next decade.

>>11565873
The bailouts also saved the economy and saved hundreds of thousands of retirements. They were a necessary evil. Ideally more legislation would be passed to prevent that from happening again.

Also not even sure why you're harping on the debt. The current administration despite pissing and moaning about it before the election have stopped talking about it and it continues to grow. Almost as if it was just politically expedient to talk about it for votes and continue doing nothing about it after getting elected because their base doesn't actually care about a thing other than "black and dem man bad."

Do you have any actual convictions or just a folder full of memes?

>>11565905
>Paying off wall street & Big Auto CEOs to give themselves bonuses while firing hundreds of thousands of employees

lol. Of course the bailouts were good for america! Fox News told me so!

Too many white folks tho

>>11565905

Please site sources on how many jobs the baiouts "saved".

Ford still moved most their manufacturing to Mexico.
GM moved most of their car manufacturing to Asia
3 Major banks went under while costing 250,000+ financial jobs.

The CEOs still gave themselves nice bonuses though, so you can celebrate that, I guess.

>>11565892
Yea and people suffered tremendously under them. There's a reason the New Deal was popular, because it helped people when things were bad. Ideally when times are tough the government can use stimulus spending to jump start the economy and then reign back spending when the economy is good. We kind of fucked that up though when Bush Jr started two wars and trillions of dollar were shot out our ass for no real gain. Not saying Obama couldn't have done things better of course.

>>11565902
Healthcare costs are rising in spite of Obamacare. All the boomers are retiring and our average age continues to increase. Higher demand, higher costs. Obamacare was a bandaid half-measure. Other countries have single payer and don't pay nearly as much as we do. Sure they have issues but nothings perfect. I think both parties have a lot to blame for kicking the can down the road. Republicans had two years plus the 8 before pissing and moaning to come up with something. They controlled all branches of government for two years and got nothing meaningful done in regards to health care.

>>11565890
And? Black people on average are poorer. If you want to beat your chest and dick about niggers you know the board to do it on. No need to lie though. Plenty of people on welfare regardless of race.

>>11565868

lol @ thinking DrumpDumphPumphTrumph can make any difference in this debt. He's not getting any support trying to cut entitlement spending from the right or the left.

>>11565946
>Healthcare costs are rising in spite of Obamacare.
Of course it is.
Government meddling in the healthcare market is the CAUSE of the high prices, not the solution.

>>11565977

At least Big Bad Orange Man(tm) is trying to force big pharma to cut their drug prices... it's a start.

It's suicide for any president to take on wall street & big pharma donors on their first term, but Trump just doesn't have the political savvy like the Clintons do.

>>11565873
Obama's deficits except for the bailouts were nothing compared to the current $2 trillion trump is running this year by giving his cronies and corporate butt buddies enormous tax breaks. Fun fact: Virtually every economist agrees the time to start paying off debt is when the economy is running good so when times are bad (i.e., when Bush trashed the economy) you have some wiggle room. L'Orange is doing exactly the opposite and basically running the US off of a cliff. We'll pay dearly for this debacle in the coming years.

>>11565939
https://theweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/theweek.com/articles-amp/454749/auto-bailout-officially-over-heres-what-america-lost-gained?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHCAFYAYABAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftheweek.com%2Farticles%2F454749%2Fauto-bailout-officially-over-heres-what-america-lost-gained

It breaks it down there. Most of the bailout money was paid back as well. As far as jobs being lost now? Yea sure. Nothing is permanent, but the bailouts again saved millions of jobs then and millions of peoples retirements. Fact is the world is changing and pressing sheet metal at home will never be competitive when people across the world will do it for pennies on the dollar unless you want the government to prop them up. You also have to be ok with consumers paying higher prices as a result. Automation is coming too so the good old days of manufacturing are coming to end despite what people tell you. Sorry thems the breaks.

>>11565977
Nations with single-payer pay remarkably less in healthcare costs than we do in the US and are government regulated. Your useless platitudes don't paint an accurate picture. Could a truly free market healthcare system work? Maybe, but most people who need medical care right now wouldn't want to take that gamble. Also when most politicians speak about privatizing everything they mostly do it while pocketing money from their donors and friends who stand to pick up those services. Big conflict of interest.

>>11565977
They were rising out the ass before, too, but now they can't deny insurance on the basis of some arbitrary "pre-existing" condition or raise your rates to unaffordability or outright cancel you if you got sick.

>>11566015

Best part is Obamacare runs on fixed drug prices, often set by direction from the pharmaseuticals themselves. It's a giant clusterfuck.

>>11566034
> Verbatim talking points from Fox News

lol BIG BAILOUTS FOR WALL STREET WERE GOOD FOR 'MERICA!!!

back to /pol/ you go.

>>11566026
lol what a fag, trolling libtards is epic and our President is the best troll

>>11566056
I'm a classic liberal you doofus. Sure on principle I don't like the bailouts but all the data is out there showing there wasn't any other viable options. Letting the banks or auto industries fail was political and economic suicide. Again ideally there would be legislation in place to stop or mitigate these minds of events from happening in the future. That should be a bipartisan issue with bipartisan support.

Also get fucked you child. Can you actually argue or are you just going to keep "pretending" to be retarded? Stay in school anon you're going to need all the help you can get.

>>11565565
>mmmmm "upscale" pre packaged junk food. Its organic!
Kys you larping poor fag and stop trying to pass yourself off as sophisticated to your other poorfag friends.

>>11566034
>It breaks it down there. Most of the bailout money was paid back as well.

That's missing the point. Yeah, it's nice the money got "paid back" (largely with fiscal trickery, but that's a discussion for a different time), but the real issue is that the companies involved with the bailouts needed to fail. The people involved in these idiotic decisions needed to lose their jobs.

Instead of keeping cancerous companies on life support, let's let them fail instead, then others who aren't making those same mistakes can take their resources and run them properly.

>>11566079
>I'm NOT a /pol/tard!!!!!

Yes, yes you are. You're the classic poltard trying to spread shitposting on foreign boards. Now get the fuck out.

>>11566089
>Instead of keeping cancerous companies on life support, let's let them fail instead, then others who aren't making those same mistakes can take their resources and run them properly.

This. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to try to pretend that the bailouts were a net gain for the US economy. The only thing they did was transfer money from taxpayers UP to the wealthy CEOs.

>>11566068
You're ignoring the downstream effects. Millions and millions of jobs and retirements were on the line. And not just in the auto industry but their suppliers as well who were in jeopardy including the local economies surrounding the auto industries. It's easy to say let them fail but you're talking about the death of a sizable chunk of the working economy and the ramifications of that politically and economically were immense. And it wasn't like they just handed them bags of money willy-nilly. There were stipulations, auditors and analysts, and economists all involved.

It's easy to say in hindsight what may have been wrong but at the time action had to be taken.

>>11566123
Yes, that fallout would have been immense. And it would have caused tons of problems.

But it would still have been better than the status quo, in which the system remains rotten to the core.

I look at it like surgery: Yeah it hurts, and there are risks, but better to get the fuck rid of that cancer rather than allowing it to continue to rot your body.

>>11566100
If you look at the data you can see the millions of jobs and retirements that were saved. Why you keep overlooking that is beyond me. Life is a bit more nuanced than just repeating your talking points over and over. Yes no one is happy when CEOs are overpaid including myself but you're at best wrong and worst blatantly lying to say that's all that happened because of the bailouts.

>>11566123

Your argument is basically that removing a tumor will hurt, so lets just keep the cancer as it is.

BTW, there were TONS of economists & most of congress who were against the Bailout, but Obama decided he should pay off his cronies. To say that Obama had full support in implementing bailouts is just ignorant & false.

>>11565613
jokes on you at my grocery store nobody speaks english so they just look at me and point at the card machine

>>11566133
>If you look at the data you can see the millions of jobs and retirements that were saved

Funny. Ford moved all their manufacturing to Mexico. GM moved to Asia. Most of the data says that the bailouts only helped these corporations "re-structure" these job relocations and funded corporate relocations which spiked after 2008.

Bottom line, America still hasn't fully recovered from the massive blue collar job loss after 2008.

>>11566143
London?

>>11566130
>>11566139
You're putting words in my mouth and making a ridiculous analogy. And of course no one agrees a hundred percent on anything especially when it's a partisan issue. What's your point on that? Again at the time action had to be taken and Democrat or Republican alike would have done something similar despite their rhetoric. No party wants to be known as the party that did nothing when crisis was looming.

As for your analogy again it's ridiculous. Jobs aren't a cancer. So you either help out these ailing large and sizable industries and get them on the right track or you let millions of jobs disappear and suffer the economic ramifications of that. Lost retirements, more welfare recipients, higher unemployment, etc. Or and I support this as well you start a jobs program to get those people affected back to work, but that's not popular either so the only real option was to loan the industries money and expertise. Which again most of that money was paid back. Is it a permanent solution? No of course not. But loans kept millions of people working, let a lot of them have retirements, and stimulated that sector of the economy and kept them alive. And the majority of the loans were paid back. If you can't see how that is a benefit then you're just arguing on ideological grounds and not based on the data and what actually happened. If that's so then there's no point in continuing this discussion.

>>11565624
>cashiers trade with stocking people

holy shit I thought I noticed this. Thanks for conforming LoL. also best TJ's product coming thru

>>11566147
Keep cherry picking all you want. The data shows the effects. The things you're discussing happen in lots of industries and are going to continue to happen. It's happening in countries like China as well, a lot of there manufacturing is being outsourced to developing nations. As other countries begin to grow they will have workers ready to do the work cheaper and most companies will jump on that. Why the auto industry gets all your ire is beyond me. They are a private company and are free to do this. I'm not happy about it either but companies compete globally now and have to remain competitive. Outsourcing should be the least of your concerns by the way. I'm sorry this bothers you but you're really going to be ass pained when your burger flipping job and lots of other manufacturing jobs continue start to get truly automated. That will be a big crisis not even just for the US but the world. Who will you blame then?

>>11565879
this

>>11565856
you're a fucking idiot. I realize your education, if it exists, was in art history and basket-weaving, but if you paid attention in elementary math/ stats you'd see the issue with your chart.

>>11566221
What's the issue? If you want the numbers go look it up. The source is listed. Department of Agriculture. Why are you so asspained? I know blacks are at a higher percentage to be on benefits but you're more likely to run into a white person on benefits than anything else.

If you want to get in on why that is go to your support and containment board and beat your dick off about how the only thing you have going for you is the color of your skin. Which is ironic because hyping up shit you had no hand in or work towards is like niggers saying "we wuz Kangz."

>>11566166
>Jobs aren't a cancer.
I didn't say they were.

What I meant by "cancer" was that there were, and still are, deep-seated problems in the industry. The bailout never fixed those problems. Instead of getting rid of the people who made poor decisions (or at the very least, taking away their decision making power), the problem is free to come back again.

>>millions of jobs disappear
Jobs don't just disappear. They move around. Pretend GM went bankrupt. The court sells all their assets and gives that money back to their creditors. Yes, people lose jobs. But hold on a minute....those factories and R&D facilities didn't just vanish. They're still there. They are purchased by others during the bankrupcy liquidation. Others who are capable of running a business without it failing. That's the point. Put the resources, machinery, plant space, etc, in the hands of people who make good decisions rather than in the hands of people who made poor ones.

You don't need "a jobs program". You just let the market take care of itself. Someone (probably other auto companies) buys the plants and makes cars again. Whom do they hire? The same workers who ran those plants in the first place. The jobs don't disappear, they just change ownership. Instead of working for GM, Rodney the Riveter now works for Toyota (or whoever else it was that bough the plant).

>>If you can't see how that is a benefit
I can see how it was a benefit. But the benefit is nowhere near as good as the one we could have gotten. The problem we have now is the cancer is still there. Corporate culture hasn't changed. The same people who made the bad calls before are still making bad calls now. And they "paid back" the bailout with funny money.... We just kicked the ball down the road a bit.

>>11566280
Yea jobs do disappear. Look at the rust belt. The abandoned factories. We aren't pressing sheet metal anymore. What a silly thing to say. Also everything you're stating are assumptions and big what-ifs. There's no guarantee what you stated will happen. Let's say yes Toyota does pick up all the pieces after these companies were left to fail. Generally when a company buys out another they don't keep everyone around due to redundancy. There's no guarantee that these factories would even be utilized again as the processes for Toyota and say GM are different enough that the costs for retooling a factory aren't worth the trouble. You're also giving an American industry away to foreign entities. Your whole piece about bad decision makers actually happened. Lots of the management of these companies were culled and as a result of that and the loans the businesses turned around. Are they facing issues today? Sure but they are still here and and millions of people are still employed.

I'm a Keynesian. I believe at heart that government can and has an obligation to mitigate bad economic conditions to protect its citizens and can be done effectively and still be financially viable. Does every industry deserve a bailout? No that should be decided on a case by case basis. You sound like you believe the free-hand of the market will solve all problems. I agree it can and does but again life is a bit more nuanced then we think and there's areas where a free-market solution isn't always the answer. We will have to agree to disagree.

>>11566367
I have never seen someone suck so many banker dicks at once before. Kill yourself.

>>11566382
Are you capable of argument? Of course not you're mouth is full of shit and your HD is full of curated meme images. Get fucked kid.

>>11566367
>rust belt.
Those jobs didn't disappear. They moved elsewhere in the world. A lot of them moved to the US south where there was no stifling problem with Unions. A lot moved overseas.

>redundancy
Sure, they don't keep EVERYONE around, but they would certainly need a lot of people. Imagine that you were the new owner/manager of a liquidated GM plant. Whom do you hire? The people who already live nearby and know how to run the plant with decades of experience? Or do you hire entirely new people and start the training from the ground up? You clearly do the former. The rank-and-file workers keep their jobs. The fuckups--those in management who precipitated the mess in the first place--are the ones who are out on their ass, and rightly so.

>>costs for retooling a factory
Why retool the factory? Run it like it is. The products clearly sell. Congrats, the Corvette is a Toyota model now. Same car. Same workers. Different badge. Different managers.

>> giving an American industry away to foreign
First off, there is no "gift", it is a purchase. And second, Foreign nationals cannot buy from bankruptcy proceedings, that is not allowed under Federal law. If we go with the Toyota example, you do know that the US Company Toyota is not the same as the Japanese one, right? The American Toyota company--which pays US taxes--would be the buyer.

>Keynesian
There's the problem. Keynes was wrong.

> I believe at heart that government can and has an obligation to mitigate bad economic conditions to protect its citizens
that sounds nice, but the problem is that in the real world it doesn't work that way. Any sort of government meddling in business is necessarily counterproductive. The idea is well meaning but poor performing.

>>the free-hand of the market will solve all problems
It's far from perfect, but it's the best tool that we have.

>>We will have to agree to disagree.
Fair enough. thanks for the civil discussion.

Now that shits out of the way what are your favorite things to buy at tjs? Are their canned sardines any good

>>11565681
What the fuck is sadboys? I see the hat, but what is it supposed to mean?

>>11565681
sounds like they were making a joke and you're autistic

How do they make money? They always seem to have twice as many employees as they realistically would need.

>>11566777
I wasn't impressed with the sardines.
>>11567313
They keep choice low enough to offer variety but not enough to overwhelm, they spend very little on advertising, they rotate items heavily to keep people excited about going, and they hire genuine people who like to help others. If you want to get down to the numbers apparently they have the highest sales per square foot of all grocery chains in the US.

>>11567313
They also negotiate with suppliers to say for example anything tomato based comes from just a few vendors versus paying 28 vendors for 100 different products to keep costs down.

>>11567313
they dont need to make money. Trader joes is a real estate company not a grocery store

>>11565565
>get shot by the police just for working there
No thanks.

>>11565681
they were making fun of you

>>11565862
....u cant use ebt at pizza hut dumbdumb

Weggies is pretty great, but iwouldn't recommend working for them because they encourage almost cult-like devotion from their employees.

>>11565681
Neither one of you were in the right. You're both retarded.

>>11567041
S A D B O I 2002

>>11565681
You have autism