/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11554408
caffeine has no caloric content so any feeling of energy it gives you comes at a net loss. If caffeine doesn't affect you then your tolerance has built up and you need to take a break for a few days

Fuck I love Turkish coffee

>>11554408

>>11554408
Have you tried caffeine pills?

>>11554408
nigga you got add

Try adding l-theanine to see if that helps. Also if you have a shit diet or poor sleep changing that would be important.

>>11554408
It's time to make the switch to methamphetamine.

>never need caffeine to wake up in the morning
Am I blessed?

>>11554487
No, you're just so lazy that you never wear yourself out.

>>11554416
>If caffeine doesn't affect you then your tolerance has built up
I rarely drink anything with caffeine anymore, but the few times I do I'm never affected.

>>11554467
Yes, I tried them when they were still being sold in my country. Energy pills, coffee, black tea, energy drinks etc, neither have had any effect on me.

>>11554475
>poor sleep
That's probably the issue then. I usually get between 3 and 4 hours of sleep using sleeping pills.

Coffee and energy drinks make me tired as well. Too much coffee makes me sweat and shake like there's no tomorrow.
I also wake up with no problems at 5-6am. I never seem to wake up later than 8am.
Fuck me, I guess

>>11554493
I used to have poor sleep and caffeine had a fatigue effect on me but getting good sleep gave me energy throughout most of the day and caffeine enhances it for me now . A good way to get good sleep is to sleep early. Go to bed at 8-10 pm or when the sun sets and don't use any devices with bright lights like LCD screens an hour before sleep.

>>11554408
have you tried speed?

You might be experiencing adrenal fatigue, depending on your coffee intake.

>thinking coffeine or any other retarded energy supplement actually provides you with more awake energy

it doesnt matter how much coffee you drink, if you are tired you will feel tired.

>>11554861
No, but my doctor suggested modiodal.

>>11554876
I'm starting to accept this as a fact. No matter how much I change my diet or exercise, I don't feel any difference.

>>11554884
It's nothing but a low-key addiction

>>11554876
No. Caffeine prompts your body to bypass tiredness. That's how it works. It doesn't replace sleep, obviously. You'll have to catch up later, because if you need to stay awake you need to go to sleep, but it can be handy in many circumstances.

>>11554487
No, you get enough sleep and you're not caffeine-dependent like office-dwelling goblins.

>>11554408
if you want max energy, i recommend good food, water, and sleep.

That being said, I switched out my morning coffee with 2 scoops of this preworkout stuff my friend gave me.
Less caffeine, but other energy giving stuff that keeps me perky.
I also listen to hype music on my commute that gets me ready to start the day.

I have had problems like that before
>drink/eat/take something with caffeine in it in an attempt to make myself more alert and awake
>get tired and take a nap
>wake up feeling extremely jittery and anxious
At times it's gotten so bad the tremors are basically spasms. Still enjoy a cup of black tea though.

>>11554408
Did someone shut in that coffee?

>>11554493
it's definitely poor sleep, lately I've been suffering from insomnia and caffeine feels like shit now

>>11554493
>I usually get between 3 and 4 hours of sleep using sleeping pills.
gotten two hours of sleep within 48 hours, don't use sleeping pills out of fear that I'll overdose on them during an autistic suicidal fit or something.

>>11554408
How do i make turkish coffee with that much foam?

>>11554408
Drink more water/non-caf drinks overall. Sometimes that kind of stuff is a result of mild dehydration after caffeine kick your kidneys into high gear.

>>11554416
>chemical energy == being alert
Go drink a jug of olive oil then, it may stop you from talking out of your ass.

yeah coffee also makes me tired, only if it has milk in it though. probably just the milk

>>11556100
sounds like you have lactose intolerance

>>11554408
Caffeine isn't that great for that.
Try getting some exercise and fresh air. Try eating lighter meals. Avoid alcohol.
Get out of bed when you wake up and don't use your bed for anything other than sleep or sex. No reading or phonefigging or taking the laptop to bed with you. That shit makes you subconsciously associate the bed with activity instead of rest and ruins the sleep you get it in it.

>>11554493
I know it's not easy but you need to get off the pills. Try getting more naturally tired with exercise. It doesn't have to be running or lifting either. Go for a long walk. Take some snapshots of stuff or listen to an audiobook while you're out.

I think i heard somewhere before that with people who are psychologically manic, coffee makes them tired. I'm not sure if its true or, not.

I know a guy who had to quit coffee. It made him pass out an hour or two after intake. Something with his kidneys. Adrenal fatigue like mentioned above?

>>11554408
drink a tablespoon on Cayenne pepper in water every morning
works better than the caffeine meme

>>11554408
You're tired because you don't get enough sleep.
You are low energy because you don't do anything (or you don't exercise).

>>11554408
Caffeine does not give you energy. It just fucks with your brain chemistry and stops it from producing the chemicals that make you feel tired.

>>11557984
exactly

Me too, OP. I don't get any boost of energy, just more tired and it turns into going to sleep. Caffeine pills too. Alcohol keeps me up. Guess I'm just backwards.

Caffeine is a meme. it doesn't matter if I have any or not, it never has an effect on me either way. I have literally drank an entire pot of coffee and fallen soundly asleep for 8 hours like an hour later. even if I go no caffeine for an entire month, come back and have coffee, it does absolutely nothing.
I think everyone in the world is just hoodwinking me about this shit.
sugar, now. I have one candybar and I'll be outside doing jumping jacks on the sidewalk.

drink whiskey and get mad instead

>>11554884
do you have sleep apnea or depression?

>>11554408
Had a similar problem when I was younger.
You need to eat something with your coffee or all itll do is make you feel weak but unable to sleep.
Dehydration also plays a role, so down some water before or after your cuppa

>>11554408
it means you’re dehydrated. drink more water

>>11555329
Boil it over only once, don't stir, and pour the froth over gently into the cup first so you don't break it apart

>>11558399
Wow people metabolize substances differently fuck me

Glad I'm not the only one. When I get caffeine, I'm still tired. The only thing that changes is that my heart rate goes well into the 170s and I feel even more miserable.

>>11554408
Take cold showers. Meditate. Do cardio a few times a week. Stop masturbating.

>>11554416
Psuedoscience. Coffee wouldnt cause enough of a calorie deficit to cause lethargy.

>>11560171
>Stop masturbating.
>le no fap meme

>>11560174
You're projecting. I'm speaking from personal experience, excessive masturbation makes me lethargic.

Coffee makes me tired even if I was not tired at all before

>>11556152
I think it's supposed to be calming more than tiring, although once the caffeine starts to wear off it can make you feel more tired

>>11560479
When the caffeine wears off you get a rush of adenosine which makes you tired

>>11560174
Masturbation is an energy-intensive activity that incurs dopamine release (limited) and at the moment of orgasm, prolactin is released which remains significantly elevated for 16 hours where it exerts antagonistic effects on dopamine transmission. Sure, the refractory period only lasts 10 minutes but the effects of prolactin elsewhere in your brain linger, and make you fatigued, tired, and temporarily lobotomized. You know what's even more of a meme than nofap? The people who deny that sexual activity incurs a physiological cost, like every other fucking action in the body. As a result, the cost of it should be weighed before indulging.
It's funny how modern insights into neuroscience and human physiology are vindicating really old medical opinions on the issue. This idea that masturbation is a free lunch that can be done with impunity is only from the 1960s and was devised by social theoreticians rather than physicians.

Must be a demigod. Do you have dyslexia by any chance?
At least that’s what Percy Jackson and the Olympians taught me

>>11560178
>I'm speaking from personal experience
Anecdotal evidence, in other words.
And I notice you went from saying "stop masturbating" to talking about not doing it in excess.
Nothing is good in excess, retard.

>>11554408
Do you have ADD or ADHD? Those typically react differently on stimulants which is why they are given those to calm down.

>>11560526
Why are you so salty if you agree masturbation can cause lethargy. You're arguing pedantics.

>>11554408
Caffeine does not give you more energy, all it does is block acetylcholine receptors to prevent you from feeling tired. If you didnt have good sleep in the first place caffeine will just make you even more tired once it wears off and all the ACh that has been building up hits you at once.

>>11560575
You said something completely different two times, dumbass

>pedantics
Retard

>>11560585
You do realize someone online saying masturbation is bad has no effect on your life whatsoever? We're not advocating for the government to execute masturbators. Calm down aspie.

>>11560595
>say something contradictory
>someone points this out

>STOP BEING AN ASPIE THIS IS MYYYYYY ECHO CHAMBER!!!!

>>11560585
You've made me change my mind anon. Masturbation is actually good, make sure to watch porn and masturbate daily and also make sure to inject heroin in moderation, it relieves stress with no negative effects on the brain!

>>11560604
So now you’re just strawmanning because you were too stupid to even keep a coherent argument for your own points. Cute.

>>11560598
Your reaction is pretty funny. Your reaction is exactly the same as a weed addict's response when someone says chronic weed use is associated with lower cognitive performance. Masturbate in moderation but you look like an insecure addict when someone gives OP multiple tidbits of advice and you sperg out when someone even suggests masturbation might be related to lethargy. Keep going anon.

>>11560616
I never said anything about whether I’m pro or anti masturbation. This is you strawmanning because you again were too retarded to maintaining a consistent coherent point.

>>11560616
You seem pretty insecure about your no wanking crusade

>>11560618
Why else would you be sperging out if you weren't an insecure masturbator? Each suggestion I gave was only 2 words each. I'm not going to say "Maybe stop masturbating (in my opinion, from my experience)" to tiptoe around your feelings. This advice was for OP, not you. He can take the advice or not, his decision doesn't affect either of us.

well I always figure you could be doing black tar herion. so not to bad.

>>11560629
>Why else would you be sperging out if you weren't an insecure masturbator?
Lol I literally explained this you braindead retard.

>>11560631
Masturbation is more difficult to quit than opiates. Don't believe me? Try stopping.

>>11560629
You’re quite thick in the head, mate. You have an unhealthy obsession with people wanking.

>>11560642
He's just trying to help people
>I'm tired all the time
>suggests cutting out masturbation to help
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>11554465
https://youtu.be/Cqd-_fHdTyA

>>11560646
>>11560598

>>11560646
And we’re trying to help you help people by pointing out where you are being confusing. You’re taking this far more personally and being unnecessarily recalcitrant at any legitimate criticism.

>>11560642

>>11560656
You have a picture of someone rambling about wanking on 4chan, saved on your phone. Not doing yourself any favors.

>>11560652
No relation to my reply. You're like a child upset that someone pointed out that you shouldn't eat the whole jar of cookies and are just throwing a tantrum now. Pointing out an adverse effect from wanking != an obsession with other people wanking.
>>11560655
I'm a different guy. I see you arguing with someone advocating that quitting masturbation could be beneficial to tiredness, a premise that I agree with.

My posts in this thread are this current one, and >>11560646 and >>11560517 and >>11560641.

>>11560669
>beneficial to tiredness
relieving* tirendess

>>11560669
>no relation to my reply
Lol you really are braindead. You’ve been sperging out for an hour merely because someone pointed out how retardedly incoherent your argument is. You took this as some personal insult and are now projecting your own anger and dick obsession unto others because you have no actual argument

You look like a fucking schizo

>MOMMY HE SAID I HAD A BAD ARGUMENT!!!!!!

>>11554491
Or he just has a proper diet and consistent sleep schedule, so he doesn't require extra drug-induced stimulation to get out of bed in the morning. I'm a long distance runner and usually work out 5-6 times a week on top of a pretty stressful military job, and I don't need coffee just to function.

>>11560674
Different poster.

>>11560686
Doesn’t make a difference. You’re arguing on behalf of his original point which I’m guessing you didn’t even fully read through considering your inability to grasp these incredibly basic bare-boned points.

>>11560178
Well if you're doing Destroy Dick December and wanking off like 5 times a day then duh it could make you feel pretty worn out. Jerking it a few times a week is perfectly fine.

>>11560705
Dude you’re just projecting like youre so fucking like stop come on

>>11560702
No, I didn't read most of what is going on. I quickly skimmed. I normally don't even browse /ck/ let alone post here. I just figured you're upset with this bloke on account of his suggesting "nofap" as a remedy.

>>11560716
>No, I didn't read most of what is going on

Fucking retard

>>11560709
Huh?

>>11560731
Cursed Kangeroo

>>11560517
lol you sound like an incel