/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11552714
No actually. The alcohol smells goes around the rim so the middle, where you put your nose, can get more aroma from the non alcholic parts of the wine/booze

>>11552714
More surface area = more evaporation = stronger odor = more subtle scents brought out. You can try this for yourself with a bunch of glasses of different sizes, like shot glass, rocks glass, wine glass, small drinking glass, etc

>>11552714
Yeah
Don't listen the the fags saying otherwise

try having a martini from a mug and tell us if it didn't ruin the experience.

>>11553539
>>11552728
japans proved it, cunt.

>>11553563

>>11553610
guess they have made different kinds of cups for 1000's of years for no reason, soyboy.

what a queer reaction image btw, makes you look like a twat.

>>11553630
>t

>>11552714
tell that to belgian breweries.
they know their shit when it comes to glassware

>>11552714
Affects the smell

The width and shape of the top of the glass will affect the aroma, the shape of the rest of the glass will affect flow and gas (volatile esters, ethanol, carbon dioxide) release.

Most whiskey and brandy glasses are designed to cut back on the aroma's effect on taste, but they are also designed to trap as much of the esters and ethanol as possible - basically tying the scent you get from the snifter to the flavour as you drink.

Red wine glasses tend not to curve too sharply inward - if at all - they're letting aroma out, and "letting the wine breathe" or helping to oxidize any harsh, tannic aroma and flavour. Your last sip of a dry red wine should be significantly sweeter than the first if you've taken more than 5 mins to drink it.

Champagne flutes are designed to promote prolonged effervescence. Minimal surface area, soft convex curvature all the way to the rim. A lot of highly carbonated German and Belgian beers will use the same concept, at a bit of a loss to the aroma.

Convex glasses are generally for heavily aromatic beers - IPA's, Belgian Wheats, that sort of thing. Some Sour/Lambic glassware has a convex base and a slightly concave top to try to steer the aroma - not sure how well it works.

Straight glassware is primarily for looks, function (tumbler pints for instance), or straight volume (steins).

>>11552714
imagine the smell

>>11552714
as long as there is enough surface for evaporation after tumbling the liquid the actual shape of the glass does not matter at all

so yes its a semi-meme

>>11552714

To the best of my knowledge and experience, that glass in particular holds all the alcohol fumes at the bottom, and all of what you want to smell if funneled into your nose at the top, so you don't burn your nostrils. I actually had someone mention to me once that the flaw of the glencairn is that at the end of the drink, if you tip your glass to heavily for the last few drops, a small cloud of alcohol fumes fill pour out and up your nose/into your eyes.

TL;DR not a meme, just a bunch of ignorant people who refuse to believe otherwise, because they didn't expect it to matter and can't get over themselves.

>>11552714
it affects the smell which in turn affects the taste but not by enough for me to give a shit

>>11552714
It’s like the empires with no clothes.
There is some massive bs getting around out there and people making millions from it.
It goes into any industry.
For example if some retard looks at a painting and says ‘oh, it means this....’ the artist will generally just agree in the hope of making the sale.

>>11555778
Emperor*

>>11555778
Perhaps. But there are benefits to them. The smell does concentrate in the narrower part, it is easier to swirl the drink it. Whether that has any benefit on the tasting, im not sure. But if you want a glass that does those things, then a Glencairn is a good glass.

I have them, I use them. But I also like to use a stemmed copita/tulip glass. Its just personal preference. Also, they arent expensive so its not really a big deal to buy them.

Strangely enough, I think Ive only ever been served whiskey in a Glencairn once in a bar/restaurant.

>>11555799
Oh I totally get that, hand comfort if you want to go that extra mile. I’m just as happy to drink from whatever bc the glass is just an item to carry the liquid to my mouth. I’m perhaps not refined enough to many, but I have no time for those kinds of people anyway.

>>11555828
Are you drinking cheap whiskey?

>>11552714
it doeasn't matter after few glasses

>>11556007
This.
I still own a Glencairn tho. You can use it for any liqueur or liquor you drink straight, doesn't have to be whisk(e)y.

>>11552714
You're a brainlet. What you smell contributes to what you taste, and those glasses concentrate the aroma toward your nose.

>>11552714
I enjoy thin glasses more than thick ones, 8-12 oz glasses more than larger/smaller ones, clear glass more than colored glass, etc.

There's a lot that goes into enjoying a drink than just what the raw flavor of the liquid is.

>>11555707
I believe that. I've always noticed the last sip out of a glencairn glass tastes more alcoholic and burns more, it even happens with wine at the bottom of a wine glass sometimes.

>>11553556
Experience and taste are different things

>>11555707
the tldr sounds like me

>>11558108

Protip: Close your eyes and blow into the glass before you do that. Gets rid of all the extra fumes.

>>11552714
Whisky is so much better out of a tulip style glass. The glencarrin knob is fucking retarded though. Honestly any stemmed tulip glass is good for whisky just not a mongoloid tumbler.

>>11552714
It might, but realistically the people who claim to notice the difference are probably just kidding themselves.
This study demonstrated when you submit a wine to multiple competitions the probability of a wine getting a gold medal at a given competition isn't affected by the wine getting a gold medal at a different competition and is explained by chance alone:
https://www.wine-economics.org/aawe/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Vol.4-No.1-2009-An-Analysis-of-the-Concordance-Among-13-U.S.-Wine-Competitions.pdf
And this one demonstrated expert wine judges with professional experience in the wine industry fail to provide consistent evaluations when they're unknowingly given the same wine multiple times:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-wine-economics/article/criteria-for-accrediting-expert-wine-judges/EB1FE425E08BFDD0CB57F764158D5114
And lastly this one showed University of Bordeaux students from the Faculty of Oenology will describe white wine using stereotypical red wine descriptors when given white wine that was made to look like red wine with food dye:
https://web.stanford.edu/class/linguist62n/morrot01colorofodors.pdf

>>11558263

We all know wine snobs are frauds, but what does that have to do with whether or not glassware has an effect on the drinking experience?

>>11554166
yall niggas is too pretentious, it's a bunch of rotten fucking grain or rotten fucking grapes. chill with it.
>>11558263
This. it's proven all that shit tastes the fucking same. muh $500 a bottle wine, muh 500 kinds of glasses, it's all bullshit.

>>11558114
He said glass, not material. Obviously ceramic is going to taste different than glass when you put your mouth to it. As will metal and plastic.

I have one of those coke glasses you can get your whole face into and it definitely changes the flavor
makes subtle flavors much more apparent

in fact its impossible to drink diet soda from it because the fake chemical taste becomes much more pronounced

>>11558263
So what you've said is
>Here are multiple studies that show factors beyond the liquid in the glass influence taste and perception of flavour
>A glass doesnt make any difference

>>11558376
Everyone look how cool this guy is. I bet he drinks black coffee like a bad ass

>>11558398
I drink instant coffee with butter in it.

>>11553556
He said glass, not material. Obviously ceramic is going to taste different than glass when you put your mouth to it. As will metal and plastic.

>>11553563
Post jap glasses,please.

>>11558263
>different judges have different tastes
>a lot of judges don't know shit and/or the wine changes as it's exposed to more oxygen
>people who are in the process of training to MAKE wine don't know how to taste it

wow, you've sure convinced me

>>11558376
>it's proven all that shit tastes the fucking same
yep all beer tastes the same, all soda tastes the same, all coffee and tea, just drink water lol

>>11558410
That's nuts

>>11558841
No your just a faggot

/s we all have our tastes

>>11554166
>designed to cut back on the aroma's effect on taste
>also designed to[...] [tie] the scent you get from the snifter to the flavour as you drink.

>>11558872
Explain your process.

>>11558918
When I put a /s it indicates sarcasm.
In reality I too have never tried instant coffee and butter, but everyone in you neighborhood would probably smell it.

>>11552714
You can sign your name with a Bic or a Montblanc but you already know which one you'd rather write with.

>>11558441
>different judges have different tastes
No you idiot. It's not just different judges having different tastes. There was no statistical relationship at all between performance at multiple concurrent competitions and winning was determined by chance alone. That's pretty fucking bad. It's not like the expectation is even to have identical results at these different competitions. All that was needed to pass this test was for their to be *some* correlation between results at different competitions. No correlation means even if there were some real difference in quality the decisions being made at these competitions weren't being determined by it.
>people who are in the process of training
People who are going to university specifically for wine as subject matter. And it's telling apart red and white wine, not exactly a lot to ask for.
>>11558389
No, I explicitly said it might make a difference but that people who claim to notice it are probably just kidding themselves since factors way less subtle than glass shape directly involving the wine itself get overridden by psychological factors for expected taste and even those professionally involved with wine fail to demonstrate the basic ability to consistently score multiple instances of the same wine poured from the same bottle. If the wine itself is something the most reputable tasters are failing to demonstrate a capacity to taste and consistently recognize then it's pretty unlikely some random amateur wine enthusiast is going to successfully notice a much less blatant potential source of flavor difference like glass shape. It's more likely you just believe you're noticing it since expectations for taste lead people to believe they're noticing that taste.

>stemless wine glass with a roulleau triangle mouth and inverted complimentary base

>>11552714
For whiskey/brandy? Sort of. If it's too open of a lip, it won't concentrate properly. For beer, it's highly important. I tried to pour a belgian quad into a long pilsener glass designed for wheats/lagers, and it was foam city. Ruined the beer.

>>11552714
>Glencairn
>Glen cairn
>glen CAIRN
> CAIRN

Cairn-kicking /out/ anger RISING

>>11553638
look what i'm doing with my life mom!

>>11559662
you're supposed to put the /s after dumbshit

>>11559767

Glassware doesn't change shape though. In the mouth, where it came from won't change the taste. It's all just aromatics.
As example, I was making irish coffee one time, and poured a shot of whiskey. Absolutely no odor at all coming off of the glass. I was baffled, took a sip, tasted how it always does.

You're making your argument off of data that isn't related to the point of the thread.

will it enhance the aroma of my sodie pops?

>>11558878
Try it with something cheap or volatile first - cheap whiskey, grappa, slivovice, something like that. A vessel that will let you inhale directly while drinking can make the aroma overwhelm the flavour... considering the aroma's largely ethanol, you're setting yourself up to taste burning.

I had to explain this to friends last night who didn't like the whiskey they brought - do a shot out of a shot glass, holding it in your mouth for five seconds, then one out of a highball, or a small bowl. If you're apprehensive about the taste in the slightest bit, you'll probably inhale sharply over the wide vessel, and your experience will be like swishing rubbing alcohol, rather than picking up any real flavour.

So yeah, sometimes to tie aroma to flavour, you have to stifle the scent a little.

>>11560064
I did
What came after was my actual opinion

>>11561087
In this case I was saying it's okay to not like something