/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11415074
Fuck you

>>11415074
>no French press
Fuck you buddy

>>11415084

Agreed.

>>11415084
>>11415096
enjoy your shitty coffee. as a poorfag i could afford a bialetti junior express aluminium moka and make a decent cup of coffee. french press is nothing better than drip coffee.

>>11415074

Piss off hipster don't insult my fucking nespresso

>>11415131
Moka pots are shit for coffee but great for espresso, French press make great coffee if you actually use it properly and don't just fill it up immediately with water

>>11415074

>>11415153

>>11415074

Suck it

>>11415074
I have the bigger version, love it.

>>11415074
salvation army $3 mr coffee

>>11415176
my feels for the coffee and the camera :-(

>>11415176
if this ever breaks you can buy them new at Walmart for $5
and that's not an exaggeration, they're $5

>>11415161
those are worth half of my stuff and taste like ass compared to it

>>11415187

You can just buy instant coffee and skip the coffee machine.
Here people mainly drink what they call Turkish coffee.

Or in some parts of the world they call it coffee with crap on the bottom
It's good tho

>>11415208

Really if i won't know the difference it doesn't matter.
It's at least a shit ton better than shit like keurig and all I need to do is press one button.

Granted that if you buy a pixie or something it's basically an expensive coffee pot but the latissima has the milk automatically and does a real good job desu

I just found out that you are supposed to scoop off the foam when it starts to boil with turkish coffee.
Fuck, no wonder I could never get mine right. Been doing it wrong for years

Any coffee stuff you guys had been fucking up for ages?

>>11415176

kalemales btfo

Ok i guess. Enjoy your one button much much better than shitty ass keurig stuff coffee.

>>11415269

You can just throw turkish coffee in hot water and drink it.
Israelis call it "cafe bots" or mud coffee.

My fuck up was when I tried this the first few times I litteraly swallowed most of the mud.
You got to let it sit wait and not to disturb it and know when to stop

>>11415285
i also like turkish coffee when its boiled on an oven in hot sand.

>>11415074
Old picture. It's much better organized now. Lido E grinder, OXO kettle, and Flair espresso machine.

>>11415074
unironically this

>>11415131
>french press is nothing better than drip coffee.
Confirmed for doesn't know how to use a French press the right way.

>>11415084
>>11415096
My bros.

thinking about thos Beans

>>11415427
>the right way
What's your method?

>>11415446
It's most important to have the right grind size.
Don't put boiling water on the coffee. Water should be ~185F. I bring it to a boil and then open the kettle and let the water cool for two minutes.
Let the coffee "bloom" to the top of the French press for a solid minute, then stir it. You won't want to use a metal spoon just because it can scratch or fracture the hot glass of the French press. Stir the bloomed grinds back down into the French press and put the lid on, plunger up, to retain heat.

It depends on the coffee you're using as to how long you leave it. If you have a nice coarse burr grind, you'll leave it longer, about 6 minutes. If you're using a finer grind like preground coffee, four minutes would be about the max.
Similarly, a lighter roast coffee can steep longer, where you'll want to cut short the time of a very dark roast coffee.
Press the plunger down very very gently. Don't use force; use only the weight of your hand. You want to let the water go through the mesh slowly without forcing any small grinds/residue through the mesh.
Pour immediately.

I don't really drink much coffee these days.

>>11415506
Disgusting

>>11415376
>graham crackers

>>11415521
>coffee snob
>scoffing at personal hygiene

>>11415725
>personal hygiene
nigga, you have fucking hair all over everything

>>11415441
hey what's that hand grinder??

>>11415793
LIDO 3

>>11415797
thank you sir

>>11415823
>LIDO 3
or ma'am

>>11415084
>>11415096
? what kind of meme is this?

>>11415147
Moka pots do not make espresso

>>11415441
Excellent setup for manual brew, respect anon.

>>11415482
185 degrees

Kill yourself

Not nearly hot enough

What does /seekay/ think of these?

>>11418790

>>11417624
What meme? French press is good and pretty quick.

>>11418792
I had one. I didn't like it. But plenty of people do. It's preference.

The part that really baffles me is people saying it's the most convenient. That makes no sense to me. Look at all this shit! There's all this assembly and disassembly, extra attachment for different cups, you still have filters and shit, you have to flip it upside-down at one point, if you missalign the filter or put the plunger in cock-eyed it'll leak or you will get grounds in your coffee, and you can't adjust quantity easy. Also if you have a mug with a narrow base you can buck it over when you press the plunger down.

Pain in the fucking ass if you ask me.

>>11418792
all that plastic, yuck.

>>11418792
Meme. A lot of fags believe it's some kind of gift from god because they got one from their aunt who read about it on buzzfeed and it's their first decent cup of coffee.

It's just a filtered immersion method. It does not create enough pressure to even remotely create espresso, concentrate, or whatever else their marketing shits out and everyone regurgitates. Also, who wants 6oz of coffee at a time? No one in their right mind.

>>11418758
Thanks. It's the best.

Also not pictured, A Clever Dripper, a Melitta cone, Kalita 185, 2 34oz Bodum Brazils, and a 17oz Bodum Kenya

>>11415161

>>11418563
This is the coffee equivalent of "actually did you know that Frankenstein is the name of the scientist!"

>>11415074
Stop drinking coffee

>>11421282
Not really because espresso refers to a specific preparation.

>>11418563
Cringe and bluepilled

>>11421282
Based and redpilled

>>11421344
Just like Frankenstein refers to a specific character (who is not the monster) :^)

>>11421378
Plenty of restaurants serve espresso made with a moka pot

>>11421393
based Poor Reading Comprehension retard

>>11418765
It most certainly is.

>>11421294
Never!!! Also this thread is a coffee house of horrors.

>>11421393
good enough for me. i'm always travelling with my moka in case of some bed and breakfast serving giving me drip shit

>>11415074

>>11415074
Which is the best portable espresso maker right now on the market?
Minipresso/Nanopresso/Handpresso/etc?

>>11415074
>come across coffee thread a few months ago on /ck/
>get intrigued and drop instant coffee and buy a bag of Malabar coffee from the internet
>don't have coffee machine so just make it "cowboy style", aka in a saucepan, by boiling the grounds
>enjoy my newfound joy for coffee
>FF a few days ago
>been drinking a lot of coffee these days
>buy a moka pot because why not
>it arrived today
>make coffee
Oh good lord now I realize what I have been missing out
Boiling coffee in water is for plebs

>>11418792
Never undrstood the hype. Mine generally goes unused, it's more of a pain than pour over, takes an unreasonable quantity of coffee, and usually results in something rather boring. I can't see the niche unless someone needs a very portable coffee maker.

>>11415074
I have the cheapest possible mr. coffee espresso maker. They are around 30 bucks and I buy about 1 machine a year when they go to shit. I cook up Lavazza grounds for the most part. My coffee is most likely better than yours in several ways. I am also taller and more fit than most of you reading this.

I have an Aeropress, a manual grinder and Lavazza beans. Too poor to afford much else.

>>11421378
So by your logic, it doesn't matter what word you use to describe something

>>11419026
>>11419129
>>11422246
Confirmed to not know how to use the AP properly.

I have one and I can make it taste clean and clear like a V60 or juicy and thick like an FP. AP is extremely versatile and consistent, if you know how to use it. My current arsenal consists of the Flair, AP, V60, FP and Kalita Wave and the AP gets the second most use after the Flair.

>>11423439
>extremely versatile and consistent

>>11423654
You showed him

I drink instant coffee. Nescafe, dark roast.
Usually drink it black at work, if im home ill add milk and some sugar.

Rate me friends.

>>11415176
Someone needs to switch to decaf, looking at that picture.

>>11423439
>>11422246
My aeropresses sucked at first, I learned a few things:

1. The grinder is more important than you'd think
2. Most beans actually peak 7-21 days off roast, so don't grind until they're ready
3. Despite being plastic, pre-heats matter a lot
4. Ignore the instructions, they're wrong and gay, particularly brew times. I fill it by half, let it bloom for a full minute, stir, fill up all the way, stir again, and then wait another 60-120 seconds depending on the bean

Also stopping at the first hiss is overemphasized, yeah it matters a little, but everything else matters a lot more

>>11415074
Not exactly a home setup, but Barista Betty here has been my daily workhorse for the last eight years. I personally don't give a shit about the "third-wave" level of attention to changing grind and dose for every set of shots I pull, so that Mythos stays where it is and I just tweak the grind to keep it in line.

If I had the room at home and a crazy amount of disposable income, I'd get the Appia's smaller sister in a heartbeat. Not that I have anything against any other 'spresso machines, I'm just so much more familiar with this one above others that I know I can make everything I personally would ever want to with confidence.

'cept Turkish coffee. Still waiting for one of my baristas to have her aunt send her one of those things from where she is off the Mediterranean.

Oh, and fuck this Bunn grinder. Nothing wrong with the line or model, this one just happens to have some loose parts so the safety switch doesn't stop it from dumping coffee everywhere if the bag/cup aren't in the right place and the chute flap rattles irritatingly loud.

So there you are. Slightly more commercial than most, but hey. A battlestation is a battlestation, and this one is mine.

>>11423958
Do you work in a cafe for the retarded? That's awesome anon.

>>11423958
That battlestation is awesome dude! Give your Appia a good pat. Also I fucking love it when I see a grinder in a Cafe. Machines that do both just produce brown waste. Mine spills a lot and I just let it sit there for a week. My kitchens smells like coffee and thats a good thing.

Anyone know how to make cafe de olla? I had that shit the other day and it was superb

>>11415074

As a LiqourFag I gotta say you Coffeefags are a sad bunch. You've got no class, your hobby is ass, and enjoy cleaning up your grounds bitch while I take another round!

>>11424854
>alcoholic lecturing anyone on class

This is some serious autism. Just use a keurig like a normal person

>>11422018
I have the same, they're great

I found this has a really good taste if you use the right dose. It smells like shit tho

I'm planning on putting together my home espresso setup soon. Getting a Breville BES840XL and a Gaggia MDF Grinder. Anyone know of any alternatives in that rough price point?

>people that have expensive setups but use shitty beans

Is there anything worse

>>11425805
Good beans on a shitty grinder

>>11425303
Get a lido e instead for the the grinder, or the Pharos 2

>Get a French press and some good whole beans
>EVERY guide is different
I do the following
>Boil/wait 1 min
>Pour just enough to cover grind
>Stir for 15 seconds
>pour in rest and let it sit for 4 min
>gently stir at 3:50 and pour into cup at 4 min

>>11415411
Isn't this extremely expensive compared to other instant coffee? Is it really worth it?

>>11417585
underextracted and weak: the final redpill

Are you supposed to freeze/refrigerate your beans/grounds? I always keep my beans at room temp and grind em in small amounts as I need it. Am I doing this shit right?

>>11425851
The packing looks nice

I used to do french press when I was drinking in smaller quantities (before grad school). Now I drink from a drip machine. My secret is to fill the filter with relatively fine ground coffee, then put another filter on top. Then run the machine on a lower speed (normally called "bold").

The problem I have with drip is:
1. Uneven extraction from channeling in the grounds.
2. Drip machines emphasize speed. So the beans get extracted way too hot/too fast.

The filter on top creates a flat plane of water that percolates more slowly through the packed coffee grounds, giving it more time to cool and reduces the channeling (figure 1).

>>11425863
freezing is meme trash as far as i know

>>11425930
Interesting

>>11425303
I'm >>11422018 and I recommend getting the combined unit, it's not much more money, it's less bench space and way more convenient. The grinder is great on it and quite adjustable.

Where do you live that you're not already looking at the BES870?

>>11417585
I don't get why "overwhelming, potent and intense" are outside the green circle.

>>11425863
>Are you supposed to freeze/refrigerate your beans/grounds?
I freeze them. They're dry as a bone anyway so they're not really freezing but it ought to stop oils from evaporating and keep them fresh for longer. If you're worried about friction in the grinder then it might help to stop that.

>>11425930
Don't do this. The water overflows and fucks up the machine and makes mustard gas.

I don't drink coffee much anymore, but I had upgraded from an inexpensive NorPro manual grinder to a nicer Hario manual. The Norpro kept loostening whenever I would grind my beans until I bought a nut to fit onto there to lock it in place, but beans would get caught in a gap just above the grinder itself which got frustrating.

Two french presses (single serve and a larger one for when I had company over, a percolator that I barely used, and mason jars solely for cold brew. Owned a nice ceramic pourover that I can't recall the brand up, but gave that to a former gf since she had nothing at her apartment.

Typing this up makes me want to dig my stuff out of storage. It was always such a nice morning ritual to make my own coffee since it helped actually motivate me out of bed.

>he drinks his coffee without a football
?????? BWAHAHAHAHAJAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>11424854
As a winefag and a coffee fag, I find it highly amusing when liquor bums try to act like their $100 bottle of constellation-brand grain distillate is "classy"

>>11424368
Pick 2:
1) Based
2) Red pilled

Coffee poorfags unite

I, like a modern, civilised gentleman, drink tea instead. I suggest you all do the same. Black tea with lemon, to be specific.

Got it for free. it makes a nice cup.

>>11426872
What the FUCK

Where can I possibly find a real, good, espresso maker? The good ones are like, hundreds of dollars, and I'm not trying to spend that much right now on a machine. Is it worth it to try and get one from a market or like from an online seller like ebay?

>>11415074
Cowboy coffee is literally all you will ever need, prove me wrong

>>11415441
Very nice setup.

Thumbs up for water-kettle with thermostat, ceramic filter-house, coffee grinder, sealed container for coffee beans and high-res scale.

Thumbs down for bleached coffee filters. Is the grinder-head plastic?

https://youtu.be/JaQNy0Ef4YY

>>11427283
>https://youtu.be/JaQNy0Ef4YY
Why'd you post an infomercial

>>11427370
Its an interesting lecture on the perfect cup of coffee. The setup in the photo was so scientifically correct that I thought this lecture would be fitting :)

Tfw capitalist draught spirits suck the heat out of your coffee.


I have some amaro gayo that I'm going to put in a metal coffee tumblr, maybe add 190, 200, 212 degree water at intervals of a minute maybe.

I wish I lived near a river so I could scrub myself with used coffee grinds.

>>11426113
It's the secret sauce.

>>11427483
>I wish I lived near a river so I could scrub myself with used coffee grinds.
just buy a large bucket, silly

Is Deh'Longhi better than a frenchpress? I know nothing of coffee.

>>11426949
>not trying to spend that much
Then don't bother, anything short of the thousand dollar range is going to disappoint you in the long run, and you NEED a dedicated grinder that will cost more than the machine. Espresso machines for home are silly unless you're a hobbyist. Just get a flair lever machine or something.

>>11427215
Coffee is not a need, so you're wrong

>>11426109
Yeah, I was looking at that, but was kind of thinking of buying my pieces separately so it would be easier to upgrade/modify my setup down the road.

>>11425679
Interesting idea. Are hand grinders supposed to be a fair bit better than machine ones?

>>11427771
Not necessarily better, just more economic because you aren't paying for electronics and motors. And the Pharos for example has a really fucking great burrset that you'd be paying close to $600-1000 for. Lido is great all purpose because it can go from Turkish fine to cold brew coarse

>>11422559
6'6 put cinnamon in my french press gang reporting in

>>11427771
Either way if you're getting a machine grinder for the love of God get a burr grinder, not a blade one. With nearly all coffee making apparatus you get what you pay for, and unfortunately there's generally a pretty large cost and quality gap between "mediocre/for the ignorant" and "professional/hobbyist."

Any "high quality" espresso machine is usually going to be made by the same companies who make commercial ones so you'll be in the ballpark range of what a business owner would pay without being able to register as a wholesaler for a discount. Down in the range of $800 or less you're more likely to find espresso machines that are the machine equivalent of "Instant Mocha Cappuccino Latte Powder" and there is only so much your skill can do to mitigate having inadequate equipment.

All that being said, all that matters is you being able to make coffee that you like. Just know that it may be pretty hard to make espresso resemble what you'd get in a café without owning the same caliber of equipment.

I have limited experience with hand grinders so I can't say much for or against them. I assume you get what you pay for there as well.

Is Ralph Lauren coffee any good?

>>11429021
what a gay little cup

>>11429297
Let's see your BIG MANLY CUPS you fuckin goof

>>11429326
>>11422223

>>11425851
>>11425898

I get 39 packets in a box at costco for about $14.
yeah, I guess that is expensive.
I guess I need to re-evaluate my coffee habit. Sometimes I get pic related instead for about $4 a bottle

Why would anyone use instant coffee? Yuck!

>>11415176
How much did the Salvation Army charge for your camera? Hopefully no more than the coffee pot.

>>11418792
I have one and I'm a fan.

>Easy to clean
>Easy to use
>Doesn't take up much space

The downside is that it only makes one cup of coffee at a time, but I can live with that.

Anyone else a fan of Aldi brand coffee? Their organic single sourced stuff is legitimately good and it's cheaper than most other coffees

>>11415797
Does your coffee 13 times better than when ground up by a normie blade grinder? Because it costs 13 times more than my grinder.

>>11426450
folate maybe?

>>11427771
>easier to upgrade/modify my setup down the road
The Breville Barrista express line are pretty adjustable, you'll be able to tweak it as desired.
If you really want to have complete control then you need to go all manual, get a hand-operated espresso pull pump, hand-grinder, stuff like that. That's almost certainly the best quality stuff too as well as being pretty cheap. A Japanese hand ceramic grinder only cost me about $20 and is amazing quality but my Breville does 99% of the same quality and does it in seconds with a perfect grind every time, the manual one takes me 2 minutes and I get varying results unless I'm anal with a measuring scoop and keep checking the powder.

>>11429799
Yes

>>11429797
The problem with supermarket coffee is that the quality is a fucking roller coaster.
Sometimes you get amazing shit and sometimes it's overroasted greasy garbage, even in the same production run with the same expiration dates.
I've had amazing and disappointing cups of coffee from mostly every brand I've tried, including aldis single origin stuff.
In fact I just keep buying the same one until it disappoints me and then I switch to something else.
Right now I'm on coffee bean & tea leaf's 10% kona blend.

hario master race here

>>11422559
you sound like a blast

>buy spillproof coffee mug with ceramic coating
>manages to stay hot for a whole 7 hours
>no more nasty metallic aftertaste

why didn't they invent this sooner?

>>11426140
>>11422246
How do i into pour over? Do i just need a ceramic dripper + paper filters? What do i do is there a guide

>>11415074
Is it worth it? Looks expensive and a pain in the ass. I simply dump one spoonful of instant coffee in my mug then fill it half with boiling water from the kettle and half cold from the tap

Taste fine

>>11418792
Unironically God Tier.

>>11429797
Aldi organic is legit. I honestly don't know how it's so fresh. Cheap too.

>>11429799
>using a $15 grinder
>being smug about it

>>11415074
This thread just reeks of arts students. Way to turn your starbucks job into a hobby. Lmfao

>>11432811
>enjoying things is bad!

lmaooo wtf are those nigga 18th century penis pumps?

>>11432811
nope, no arts student. coffee machine is owned by my wife for 18 years and we found a really great shop that can maintain this piece and sell us italian beans. the grinder is from said shop.

>>11432811
>thousands of dollars worth of equipment
>art students
Uh...

Engineer by trade. Rocking a Rancilio Z11 2 group (1999 model, picked up for $50). Amazing bit of kit, but no where near practical. I basically only use it on week ends and resort to a french press or instant coffee most days.Would love to get a smaller machine, but I can't imagine anything I could afford will beat the thermals of that beast.

>no French press
Easily one of the best methods of making a cup. OP just self conscious about getting a $1000 espresso machine with shit thermals and pressure lmao

>>11433378
$50 god damn you are fortunate, can definitely see that being impractical at home though, have you thought about flipping it? I'm sure you could make a crazy return if it's in good condition

I have one of those big coffee machines that grind the beans for you and make the coffee directly
is that good? I think it cost like 200€

tastes better than nespresso but it doesn't blow my mind

You can make coffee in many ways:
>the best way
With a professional espresso machine, the one you find at the bar;
>the only decent alternative to the espresso
With a moka at home;
>any other way

>>11423705
Underrated

>>11424854
>SEETHING al/ck/fag is butthurt that his threads are banned but coffee is A-OK

>>11435683
>meanwhile, a beer thread has been raging for days
The mod just gets triggered by certain key words, if you say "general" they have a mental breakdown for some reason. I haven't yet tried it but my next wine thread is going to be limited to discussion of monopole burgs from a 300 square meter patch of land in dijon, we'll see if he tolerates that without having flashbacks to being beaten by his alcoholic father

>>11430771
A gooseneck kettle is preferred just to make it easier, but any kettle or even a measuring cup that pours easily works just as fine.

Paper filters made for them are needed, but it is best to let the coffee 'bloom' by pouring a bit of water on the grounds to let them soak. Then slowly add the rest of the water and wait for it to fill your mug. I've owned a plastic one before and they do the job just as well, so if you find one it is worth a buy to see if you want a ceramic model.

>>11415427
What is the correct/best way to use a French press? Genuinely asking.

>>11435856
https://youtu.be/st571DYYTR8

>>11415074
I have a 570 dollar gift card to bed bath and beyond, thinking that with a Black Friday discount as well might score that europiccola for just about free. Is the learning curve shit for a beginner? Also, any other suggestions in the 500-900 from these assholes?

https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/category/kitchen/coffee-tea/espresso-machines/12054/1-24?sort=LOW_PRICE%20desc&isMobileChannel=true

>>11433378
Ian is this you?
https://www.home-barista.com/repairs/rancilio-z11-omnicron-ii-rebuild-t34579.html

>>11435958
tl;dw

>>11435447
This.
If you're a poor/college fag and can't afford a decent espresso machine you're better off using a moka pot to a $100 plastic machine.

Bean to cup machine and dark roast beans from Milano. Haters gonna hate.

>>11435981
If you've never worked with espresso before there is a lot to learn. You should definitely be investing in a really good grinder because lever machines are extra sensitive to the grind, especially pavonis that don't have a spring mechanism

>>11436031
But that 8cup Stradivari is a good bet? Also, any good burr hand grinders for under 100? Would buy used

>>11436168
I've never used one but I trust the Pavoni brand as it seems to be generally well received. Typically you want your grinder to be even more expensive than the machine, your best option for a grinder would probably be the Pharos 2 ($300), I can't stress enough the importance of the grinder, anything cheap will choke your machine or just lead to generally shitty shots.

>>11422216
>>11422219
>>11422220
>>11422223
>>11422549
>>11424368
based comfy pour-over bro

NEETcuck here
basically I'm poor but have expensive tastes
willing to wageslave for 2 months (and then bail lol) for a decent espresso setup
rec me machine + grinder pls thank you

>>11436209
>2 months

don't think you can make $3k with just 2 months entry level/casual (on call) hours at minimum wage anon

>>11436217
Easily could if he worked overtime at a high volume restaurant

>>11422216
I have that scale, I spilled water/coffee over it at least 3 times, and although the buttons stick, it still measures within .2g

>>11425837
the james hoffmann pseudocupping technique

>>11436371
Yea, plenty of spills and on the original batteries in the ~3 years I've had this one. Also sold drugs for a lot of years and American Weigh scales have always the best. Survived getting being carried around in pockets, backpacks, tossed into cars, whatever.

>>11436201
Thanks, bruv

>>11415158
I can’t do the frothing box. I need the wand or nothing. I need to be able to control how I heat the milk

I got a Cafe Roma a couple weeks ago.
I still can’t figure out how to properly tamp to get the flavor consistent

>>11415376
nice dildo in front of the light

>>11435447
Exactly

>>11435981
The europiccola is great, but you need a grinder in the price league of 300 to 500 dollar for it to work properly. You don't get any crema from store bought ground coffee ever. Also you need to be able to maintain it or carry it to a repair shop for servicing about every two years on daily use. You can also buy used ones on ebay for 100 bucks and maintain them.

>>11415074
Are you brewing 5 cups to dial it in each morning?

current setup.

>>11435988
>>11435958
You can lead morons to education but you can't make them learn.

>>11436006
>If you're a poor/college fag and can't afford a decent espresso machine you're better off using a moka pot to a $100 plastic machine
I have a decent (actually really good) espresso machine and I endorse this. I have a Moka pot as backup and it makes a coffee that's 70-80% as good for a fraction of the price.

>>11436209
See >>11422018 , that's only $550 on Amazon. Easily done if you saved everything from a few weeks of dish washing.

>>11438390
>two of everything
Jesus you must be a pro.

I need some advice on a very basic pourover setup.
Link me some shit on amazon please. I need a grinder, a pourover cone, and filter paper.

Used to need milk and cream with all my coffees (mostly shitty espresso based) but after tasting a single syrupy-rich and smooth pourover, I've realized how black coffee can be.

my old coffee maker broke down some time ago and had to dig up even older spare coffee maker

I remember seeing a grinder/coffeemaker combo here that was easily disassembled for cleaning. Someone here said they had it round the office. Ring any bells?

>>11418563
>>11421344
How is espresso specifically prepared?

>>11415161
those packets look really nice.

>>11439237
Is wikipedia broken?
Espresso, as the name might have suggested to you were you smarter, is made under pressure. Forcing the hot water through the beans.

>>11415074
best coffee ever.

>>11439248
Ok well that's literally how a moka pot works, you fucking retard. Read a book before you make stupid claims.

>>11439404
I bet you think an Aeropress makes 9 bars of pressure too

>>11439427
And i bet you deepthroat your dad's cock while letting your uncle rear your anus apart

>>11439237
With an espresso machine

>>11423706
You nailed it. My current favourite recipe is pretty simple actually:

>inverted method
>water temp 185F, grind level between 5 to 6 depending on the beans
>15g beans, 75g water. 1:5 ratio.
>add water, stir for 15 seconds
>flip over, shake once so all the beans come to contact with the water, wait 45 seconds
>10 seconds press
>dilute with water/milk as necessary

>>11439465
you both seem like degenerate gamblers and fucking retards. If you set up a gofund me to get your tubes tied, I will throw in.

Is this a meme or the real deal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYRWCyYP4J4

>>11438774
buy the most expensive grinder you can afford then just get a plastic v60 and knock off hario kettle. the v60 has a kit on amazon that is brewer, carafe, and filters for less than $20

What advantage does a pour over have over espresso? I tried one before and it tasted like watery piss.

>>11426872
> He doesn't alternate between tea and coffee depending on what he feels like

any semi decent burr grinders for poorfags?
I mostly brew chemex and french press.

>>11440574
Yeah there are a lot

>>11440480
agreed. well i know many who prefer pourover, the foremost best restaurant in the world (numa) made pourover and i think it tastes like piss too. so i stick to espresso and moka pots.

Are vacuum/siphon coffee makers a meme?

>>11440864
no, but they can't fill the vacuum in your heart

>>11440303
It's just another manual lever espresso machine like the La Pavoni in OP's picture, only this time it's somewhat portable as it doesn't need electricity. Can't speak on it's quality though.

>>11440457
That seems to confirm everything i researched overnight.
But it kills me to have to need another $$$ piece of equipment in my cramped kitchen, along with the sous vide, rice cooker, toaster, convection oven, blender, microwave, kettle...

I might look into getting my coffee preground by a roaster with fresh beans and a $$$ grinder.. If I can find one that is.

daily reminder

Is baratza encore a good grinder? Would it be worth the extra $60 to get a LIDO 3? I would only grind for pour over and moka pot
Also, how long does the LIDO 3 take to grind like 20-25g of pourover coarseness? One of the biggest reasons I want to upgrade is my hario mini mill takes like 5 minutes to grind enough for a cup and I hate having to do it every time

>>11443030
Someone put creamer in my coffee today. I was pretty bummed out about it.

>>11444184
The LIDO will have FAR better grind quality than an Encore. I do 25g every morning in my LIDO 3 and it takes less than 30 seconds. If that's all you're doing as well, I'd say go for the LIDO, but if I was doing a lot more than that every day, I'd get an electric (Virtuoso, probably)


I also upgraded from using a Skerton (25g took two+ minutes) and the LIDO is not even remotely a chore compared to it and the grind quality is incredible

>>11444193
Someone put cream in my wife's cervix. I felt pretty good about it.

>>11415074
>nice grinder and OK pull station
>cheap as fuck bulk bag of stale arabica beans
>probably ordered on line from a shop where it sat on a warehouse shelf for 6 months on top of that

what's the fucking point

>>11437713
consistency comes from the grind and thermal stability of your machine.

>>11438390
respect, but i wouldn't buy 4 bags of fresh coffee if i was just drinking myself. one 300g bag will last me a week and half and gives me an excuse to visit my local espresso shop where they have kick ass pastries (get a free americano with a bag)

>>11443018
A baratza encore is like $100 anon and it makes a world of difference for many years of use, pre-grinding the coffee defeats the purpose of buying it fresh.

>>11444184
Baratza encore is pretty much the benchmark for home brew grinders. I upgraded to a lido e from the hario as well, takes about 20 seconds to grind 27 grams for my chemex each morning and the quality is outstanding. I honestly cannot see an advantage to buying it however for your purposes, the encore will serve you just fine for half the price, and you can upgrade the burrset with the virtuoso burrs to really get the most out of it. You won't be disappointed if you go with ether the lido or baratza, I just don't think you'd necessarily notice a $100 difference in your pourovers.

>>11440303
It's good but prep time is a bit long.

Team pour over

i used to do this but i used an actual sock and the stand was jerryrigged from a coathanger

>>11418792
>What does /seekay/ think of these?
makes coffee waaaay to bitter for my taste. much prefer pour over.

>>11421393
>Plenty of restaurants serve espresso made with a moka pot

>>11435447
>You can make coffee in many ways:
>>the best way
>With a professional espresso machine, the one you find at the bar;
>>the only decent alternative to the espresso
>With a moka at home;
>>any other way

any good stand alone milk steamer appliance recommendations? I would love to make a decent latte at home.

>buy a v60
>two months later every coffee shop near me switches to these >>11422549 and starts calling the v60 shit
>continue using the v60 for 3 years and feel uncool about it

>>11415226
>Granted that if you buy a pixie or something it's basically an expensive coffee pot
Apart from milk frothing, all nespressos are basically the same, and they are not the same as a coffee pot. They make real espresso though not as good as a proper machine.

The main problem with nespresso is they make small amounts so you end up going through a lot of capsules (I use 2-3 lungos each morning). I'm looking for the strongest ones so I can use less.

>>11446806
I still like my V60 better. It's harder to wash the high sided grounds off the of wavy filter with the last pour and it tickles my tism.

>>11446741
>makes coffee waaaay to bitter
There was something off with your grind/temp/brew time/whatever, not the device. Please see:
>>11417585

Any of yall have input on hand grinders? I have pic related, but not a huge fan of it-- over time the spindle that the inner burr threads onto became slightly bent, causing the whole thing to go out of alignment and give a really inconsistent grind. It's the second coffee hand grinder I've had that this has happened to, and I grind gently without pushing down. Most of the ones I've seen use the same type of functional design that is susceptible to this problem.

>>11415074
More and more scientific medical studies confirm that drinking dark roast coffee causes very nasty cancers.
Wonder how many of you know that.

>>11445205
Looks so gross and disgusting.

>>11415084
killer doggy

>>11446806
The Wave's greatest strength is consistency. It made my V60 obsolete since I can adjust other factors to make the Kalita produces similar results.

>>11446920
you can get a feld2 preferably from prima coffee, or any other meme (kinu, comandante, etc)
also interested if anyone here has an anonymous grinder. it looks like it has good burrs and hopefully is stable given 2-point attachment, wondering if the grind quality is actually on par with grinders 2-3x the price and what the buying experience is like

What's the best way to make coffee innawoods?
The best ratio of bulk to delicious, delicious taste.

>>11449957
French press

>>11444246
dude, i get the beans from the coffee machine seller and he sells them a lot and he gets fresh orders regularly. also the blend is 60 percent robusta. until now they didn't go stale until i used them.

>>11415131
Are you unironically retarded

>>11450290
>>11447463

>>11450290
>beans from a machine dealer
>not an actual roaster

they're shit. guaranteed there is no "roasted on" date on that bag.

/ck/ name your favorite roasters please

>>11425303
I have the Gaggia grinder, and while it's nice, it's slow and the doser feels cheap and makes a mess. For the ~$200 I spent on it, I wish I had spent the money on something different, or put more into a better grinder.

>>11450436
people can access this site from anywhere in the world, are you looking to order coffee intercontinentally?

>>11450632
United States, sorry I should have specified

>>11445205
did you ever use a crusty cum-sock? What was the flavor like?

>>11450436
I've had good experiences with happy mug coffee when I lived in the suburbs, but I go local now that I'm in the city with more options

What's a good cheap machine with a wand

>>11450659
camber's interesting and something you probably haven't tried, tried and liked coava recently
for day to day bulk stuff it's better to roast your own or buy locally from someone midtier

>>11439427
Okay then how exactly does a moka pot work if it doesn't put any pressure on the beans using steam heat? I guess the hot water just magics it's way up the pot to the top chamber

>>11439496
Like a moka pot which is a standalone espresso machine

>>11451000
1.5 bars != 9 bars

>>11449957
French press or moka pot depending on what grind of coffee you typically buy

French press is sitting out in the kitchen right now.
I don't keep it all in one place.

>>11451006
Incorrect, it is a moka pot. Espresso requires around 9 bar pressure, moka only produces 1-2 bar

>>11451202
How is everything going anon

>>11450436
>Onyx
Amazing selection
>Brandywine
Coffee is hit or miss sometimes, fantastic customer service though
Only two I've really ordered from

>>11451202
do you like that roaster? how long did it take you to repeatably get a result you liked?

Okay... before entering this thread, I thought that "drinking black coffee" was the zenith of coffee enlightenment. After reading, I am interested in the moka pot, but I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars just to get it wrong.
I know I'll have to tweak here and there to get it "just right", but I just want to make sure I have the right supplies and equipment going in.
Any tips for a first timer?
Pic unrelated.

>>11452648
Going well enough.

>>11453120
>do you like that roaster?
It's pretty alright. Feels a bit cheap, but nothing has actually broken in 2 years of use.
It has an annoying "safety" measure that requires you to press the start button to keep roasting when it gets down to 25% time remaining.
They say this is to prevent fires and such if you're not paying attention, but it doesn't run long enough or get hot enough for that to be a real risk in any normal cycle.

>how long did it take you to repeatably get a result you liked?
A couple months.
My usual method now is to roast 1/2 lb batches manually, max heat, until first crack then drop to 4/5 heat and increase drum speed. I usually try to stop it in time to get just the very start of 2nd crack as it enters the cooling cycle.

you may have noticed I have store-bought coffee and not a bag of home roasted.
I keep putting off roasting until I'm out of the last batch because roasting makes me sneeze a lot.

>>11453161
Yeah don't get a moka, use pourover or French press instead. You'll be able to learn what you're doing right and wrong better and get a good sense of extractions

>>11415074
Only peasants work machinery.

>>11453341
Quick rundown on a french press? I had one for a while, but my coffee always came out like cloudy, bitter garbage.

>>11453537
Just press to the top of the coffee, don't press all the way. Also make sure your water isn't too hot and you're steeping for long enough

Anyone got a non electric manual lever espresso machine? I don't care about latte drinks just want a passable espresso.
I've been eyeing the flair espresso maker for a while. Thoughts on that?

>>11453736
People seem to like them, as long as grinder is good

>>11453537
>>11435958

>>11449957
either non-glass french press or aeropress.
aeropress doesn't make much, but it's light, durable, and packs pretty small.
french press is a french press. bigger and heavier than aeropress but makes more coffee. steel ones are pretty durable.

>>11435958
>>11453708
Someone manages to come up with a more retarded french press method every other month.
>here's a press
>do not use it as a press!

>>11427483
shit the thumbnail looks like scalp with alopecia

I'm sure this a pleb choice, but I really like Folger's Black Silk.

>>11451202
autism: the post

>>11455915
it's layman cupping you retard

>>11453708
french press is the most shitty way to make coffee
fucking plebs

Ive been using Keurig cups for the last year or so.

But today I made a cup with my Aero press I use for my camping stuff and it tasted wayy better.

All done

>>11441017
>>11440303


Produces crema and tastes great I just haven't been able to extract the ~ 60mL of liquid at the end that you'd expect from a double shots worth of ground coffee. Technically a ristretto I guess.

>>11450436

Augie's out of Redlands, CA

>>11453736

I got one along with the Lido E grinder.
It produces a nice crema and great tasting shot.

Downside so far is I only get about 1.2oz extracted for the 2oz of water and double shot's worth of coffee grounds.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've read elsewhere of similar issues.

>>11457366
Coffee grounds absorb about twice their weight of water

>tfw my 4cup coffee machine is only 750ml
no wonder shit takes so bitter

Is it true that dark roast coffee causes cancer?
I think I'm quitting drinking coffee now. Fuck that shit. Save my money and health.

>>11458297
Everything causes cancer, dumbass

>>11458307
>Everything causes cancer, dumbass
You are full of shit, you must be one of the dishonest coffee merchants hiding the truth.
Fuck you and your cancer causing coffee.

>>11458297
Why not drink lighter roasts, they taste better

>>11415376
>barilla
my nigga

>>11458326
>He doesn't know
Sunlight causes cancer.
Potatoes cause cancer.
Literally existing causes cancer.
If you really yeet out of enjoying something because of that 1/9999999 chance then you don't deserve to enjoy it in the first place.

>>11458345
I know, but I just stopped drinking coffee all togheter.
The amount of toxic chemicals grovers use in those third World countries is massive in order to protect their crops and their only income.
The organic coffee industry is not to be trusted, you can print any shit on the labels.
Yes there are some organic coffee grovers but no way close to the claimed numbers.
Every place you go they sell organic coffee, that's bullshit. There is no way that almost every coffee grover switched to grow organic.
Coffee is after cotton second most chemically treated crop.
Coffee industry is very dishonest.Period. Most coffee merchants are bunch of greedy assholes. Some of them start coffee threads on /ck/ to promote their cancerous shit.

>>11458427
If that's what you worry about, you must have trouble eating in general.

>>11425301
I used to only buy Folgers because it's cheap but I upgraded to Gevalia. Thinking about trying other brands but I drink so much coffee it would be too expensive. I already go through one and half bags a week.

>>11423705
massive lel

>>11435856
I mean it was already answered but this is what I follow

>>11435958
>Skim off those grinds, just put them down the sink it's okay
No it isn't that legit fucks up your pipes

>>11453161
Moka pots aren't $100 they are like $15 at Target I would suggest sticking with pour over or French press solely because I find moka tends to be a bit strong/bitter for most people's preference starting out

>>11415074

>>11458297
You're being pelted with cosmic radiation every second of your life and every single time your cells divide, they exhibit a non-zero chance of mis-duplicating your DNA and causing one of the new cells to multiply out of control and go malignant.

>>11461619
Very stupid argument.

>>11419129

I use the Aeropress to make coffee not Espresso but you have to fill it really full and you can get about 8oz out of it.

Its faster than a pour over method.

Dont let the ground beans sit in the hot water for long or it gets bitter.