/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11434234
I'm not a fan of pastitsio.

>>11434234
KANEDAAAAAAAA

>PUT MORE FLOUR ON YOUR FLOUR

yikes

>>11434234
no

I use cream cheese

>>11434234
>BECHAMEL
I should use butter milk and flour instead of cheese?

But why?

>>11434293
Because it tastes better. And there's already cheese on top.

I use cottage cheese instead of ricotta. The taste is better.

>>11434303
I disagree, bechamel is bland as fuck by itself.

>>11434234
No. I even use cottage cheese because fuck you.

>>11434311
It's in the fucking lasagna.

>>11434314
yes, and I prefer the taste of ricotta.

>>11434316
pig

>>11434234
>Posts about how Americans cook lasagna wrong
>Posts a picture of lasagna cooked wrong.

ricotta is supposed to be spread on biscuits and buns, its flavors are too delicate to be cooked with

>>11434314
>>11434303
>milk butter and flour paste tastes better than cheese
Nice try but no. Authentic does not automatically mean better. Ricotta is a popular improvement for a reason. Same fattiness and creaminess as bechemel, but with more salt and savory flavor with a slight acidity/tanginess that adds to the tomato.
Go away authenticity autism man.

But I really like ricotta.

>>11434329
It's not even lasagna since it isn't using lasagna pasta.

>Americans are ruining classic Italian food
>uses a French sauce
Italians lol.

>>11434332
>is a popular improvement for a reason
that's just wrong
southern italians with nasty ass ricotta immigrated to america so it became popular in america because that's all they had

>>11434331
>its flavors are too delicate to be cooked with
No they're not you chainsmoking wop. If you can taste it through a fucking bun you can taste it through pasta.

>>11434234
Greek lasagna is fine too.

>>11434351
depends on the meat/pasta ratio
too much soggy pasta and it's all hell

>>11434343
It became popular in America because ricotta cheese is delicious.
Who hurt you with ricotta cheese? You're just throwing a temper tantrum at this point.

>>11434358
>It became popular in America because ricotta cheese is delicious.
literal non-argument, moron, i've already proved you wrong

>>11434349
i dont care about tastelet opinions, even if you had a big spoonful of fresh high quality ricotta you'd think it tasted like oatmeal

>>11434343
Southern Italians invented lasagne you Tuscan faggot.

>>11434364
Are you trying to insult me or yourself? I already stated they can hold up to cooking, and now you're insisting that a big spoonful (which if you think is MORE flavorful tells me you're an idiot) would taste bland to me? Is it because you think it's bland? Because you're a chain-smoking alcoholic wop that's been eating "muh authentic" ricotta with bread?

>>11434361
It's not a non-argument. Ricotta is popular in all kinds of cooking, not even just American. People use it on pizza, in pasta, and even in baking for cheesecake, pastry, and gnocchi.
You just don't like it. So don't eat any, retard. Grow up.

>>11434358
>It became popular in America because ricotta cheese is delicious
It's become popular in America because putting cheese on everything is a lazy way to make anything "delicious" in a land where cheese is cheap, and both the cheese and meat are generally of poor quality. Heaping on lots of both equals more deliciousness to American taste. Doesn't make it right.

Italians do it better.
Sicilians do it best!

>>11434234
>greekfag here
I've always hated the mountain dollop of bechamel pastitsio is "traditionally" cooked with.

Moussaka is better anyway, and I top that shit with a fluffy mixture of yogurt, feta, olive oil, and beaten egg.

>>11434242
That's because you're a fucking tastelet.

>>11434368
no they didn't, moron

>>11434234
Regu
Pasta
Cheese

Anything else is shirty lasagne.

And it's spelled lasagne as what.

>>11434303
>And there's already cheese on top.
So?
More cheese is best cheese.

>>11434234
bechamel doesnt go either you stupid mongs. no italians put ricotta in there. bay leaf. ground veal and pork. carrots. onions. mozzarella. when making pizza sauce, fennel seeds and tomato paste work well

>>11434234
Make alternating layers of tomato-meat-sauce and spinach or preferrably chard in bechamel with cheese.
And use Lasagne noodles and not whatever this bullshit is.

>>11434329
>post about lasagne
>spells lasagne wrong
American education everyone.

>>11434234
I'd eat this if it had twice the meat.

>>11435504
>attempts to teach Americans Romance languages
You might be ok with Spanish given the border issues.

>>11434342
Polish find Germany both most and least trustworthy?
Also lmao @ Greece thinking they're hardworking hahaha

>>11434244
What was Canada's problem?

Homemade pasta lasagna

You have to mix the ricotta with egg to make it fluffier. Then it is fucking GOAT

>>11434234
>excessively thick layer of pasta

>>11435829
>that grease

dios mio

greek pig

>Italians
>normal human beings

>>11434234

bitch (to be(((you))) lasagna

>>11434311
Then you're making it wrong... it's called seasoning.

>>11434401
Do you think they offer fucking variety lasagnas at the grocery store? It's all ricotta fuckface.

>>11435829
the greasy sauce looks disgusting but the lasagna looks decent

>>11434368
It's a nation wide dish. Each region has it's own variation.
My grandfather used ricotta, and he was FOB from central Italy, and he learned to make lasagna from his mother, in Italy.

>>11434234
Wow, who took a ricotta in your lasanga

>>11436302
Salt and pepper...? Maybe some nutmeg.

Not exactly going to provide a massive amount of flavor desu.

Now maybe a Mornay sauce which starts with bechamel.

>>11436790
>Maybe

>>11436803
It is a maybe, not everyone uses nutmeg, and you're only using a small amount as it is, you don't want your bechamel to be oozing nutmeg particularly.

>>11434234
>italians
>normal humans

>>11436847
If you don't use nutmeg you're a nimrod.

How about everyone north of Rome and south of the Alps gets genocided?

>>11437023
dumb sicilian

>>11437032
>t. Tuscanoid kike

>italians
>humans

>>11434248

>>11435995
>>11436307
You dumb fucks it’s not grease. Real tomato sauce separates. Learn to Italian sauce for once. >>11435995

>>11434436
I usually do moussaka with bechamel, how's the yogurt mix? what are the proportions?

>>11437868
If "real italian sauce" is just watery soup that floods the plate as pictured then Italy can go fuck itself.

>>11437868
>it's not grease, it's separated sauce
>3/4 of the plate that doesn't have the lasagna has a thick amber colored fluid with a glossy sheen

>>11437868
Don't mind them anon they probably can't even cook. It does look a little runny tho. I recommend either letting it sit longer before you cut or not boiling the noodles before you layer them.

>>11437925
I recommend not deep-frying the fillings before layering.

>>11437940
Good one. You must be loved and respected by all you know with that wit and winning sense of humor.

pasta > bolognese > bechamel > parmesan
how do I improve this?

>>11438033
simmer bolognese for like 20 hours
and improve bolognese

>>11435514
If you have ever met a Greek they are all fucking full of themselves. Hairy, smelly, fucks.

>>11438055
What do you think about this recipe senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wI9P8WFck0

>>11438109
never mixed meats and have never used chicken liver or pancettta or gellitan stock or used that much liquid or parmesan or fish sauce so i can't say

>>11437868
r e d u c e it what the fuck

>>11438109
> skim fat
> add heavy cream

>>11435896
If you don't double or triple them up then you might not get a consistent layer of pasta.

>>11434244
TETSUOOOOOOOOOOO

>>11434305
no chunks. no white shit. no yogurt. no nothing cheese related except mozzarella and parmigiano reggiano or pecorino romano if youre a cheap ass

>>11438303
KANNAYDAAAAAAAAAR

>>11437925
>>11438182
I think anon just used way too much water/stock in the recipe.

>>11434244
>>11438303
>>11438409
KAORIIIIII