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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a l,short list of sites that any new webcomic artist/writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

I have a question for everyone here thats making your own webcomic, whats the general age range of everybody here? I'm 28 and would like to eventually get published, but most of my ideas for comics are kind of weabooish anime inspired, and I'm wondering how old you can be if you want to go in this direction with your comics.

>>943
I'm 18 right now. I'm more of an artist than a writer, but I also hope to get published doing my own series someday.

>>943
There are no age limits on making webcomics. Make them about what _you_ want, what you are interested in.

>>943
I'm 24. I used to draw "anime style" stuff when I was younger but reading other webcomics online made me pull away from the style as much as I could.

I don't really feel like there's an age limit on it, just how well you can do it. I would be more wary of people being critical of someone non-asian doing it, I've seen a lot of people snub their noses at american-made mangas and the like.

>>943
I'm 19!

>>946

Yeah I am aware of that, i want to take some courses in the near future and practice drawing other styles to improve my drawing skills.

>working on my first webcomic, only done short one pagers or commision work of max 8 pages before
>have about 3 years worth of story roughed out
>designing characters left and right
>absolutely terrified I'll lose interest or succumb to doubt before I finish even a fraction of it

finished this gif now i'll go back to making pages

>>943
im 20

i don't think there is an age limit for this

i don't know if this is correct but i remember that one time on a wakfu thread someone mentioned that one of the main artist of that show started when he was almost 40

>>943
33 here.

>>948
Gesture sketches always help loosen up your style and hone your eye for both shape and value. I'm shit at them but that's just because I don't do them very often. Still life drawing helps with value, shape, and also some mechanical skills as well.

As for the thread topics:
> How far have you planned your webcomic?
Had it all planned out at one point but two years ago I scrapped almost everything and started over.

>Do you have the whole script written out of are you writing page-by-page?
When I have more world-building finalized I plan on doing a full script.

>Share some of your future plans! What scenes, characters, locations, events, etc are you excited for!
I'm mostly excited for getting this world and story and character mob I've been lugging around out onto paper where people can read it, enjoy it, and talk about it. My goal is to make something I'll be proud of when it's all said and done.

Mostly frustrated with myself because I can't seem to hold focus for more than a few months at a time. That or I think about all the work I STILL need to do and it gets overwhelming. It's like building a house all by yourself.

>>91089314
Not the same person but I already started messing with it and needed a post to reply to.

Thing is, real "extra dark" people wouldn't work in comics because printing in the correct colors to get there would make them look like a phantom.

When it comes to coloring for comics you kinda need to imagine that everything dark has a layer of fog over it to make sure it's readable. Your character can be extra dark... compared to everything else.

>>951
Is that you CF

Should these two be lesbians in a relationship? I'm leaning on yes, but I wanna know what you guys would think of that.

>>953
good job forgot my image because I had to change threads.

>>955
I think you should castrate yourself and fuck off

>>955
More lesbians is good

>>954
What's their dynamic like and will it be a romance developing over the story or will they just start the story already in a relationship?

>>943
24, but I don't have a webcomic. I just like drawing concept art and imagining that I have one. :(

>>953
I've thought about the printing issue, but I've read enough tricks and image settings to avoid the overall darkening. I've gotten some test images printed off before and with normal settings in Pshop they come out like burnt toast. I can't remember the specific settings I used but recently a piece I did printed almost perfect for a calendar page commission I did for a company.

>>956
Typed all that before your pic popped up. I see what you mean! I'll repost a sketch I put in the last thread that doesn't have the warm highlight. I think I need to shade them less like I would a lighter skinned person and use very specific coloring for their pigment (their as in Halle's and her pseudo-dad). As in, learning how literal dark skin takes to light better.

>>959
Did you mean to reply to me?

>>962
Whoops, yep.

>>962
Obviously, moron. Not that it matters

>>963
Ah, well, the blue girl is nice, but can also be really smug at times, and the red head is kind of dumb, but also tries to be motivational and hates people who self depriciate themselves

And I was thinking that they would already be in a relation ship, unless seeing how they got together would be interesting then i guess that would be cool if you guys really prefer that.

>>91088504
>polar bears
huh.... good point
>>91088524
wait, you mean bleached? That's something else entirely.
they look interesting in this one, actually kinda like those natives in Kong. I always thought it was a shame people don't naturally come in that color because it looks really nice
>>91089491
that's all anyone can ask.
>>91089530
That is important to note, as noted here >>91015033 some crit is legit, some isn't.. but some of it's just opinion, but a lot of opinion is legit and semi-universal

>>941
I've got like three or four levels of planning, and it's really hard to sort through them because they're all jumbled up.. everything from 'this is dialogue should happen' all the way up to 'this is a general theme that should be illustrated' and everything in between
sadly none of it really shows up in the comic, but a lot of unintentional ones do, so it all evens out.

right now I've used up as many ideas for new settings and events that I think I can squeeze in (that's what the splitting up was for) so now I have to just order all the final stuff and make it work and live up to all the other 'endings' that it didn't end at before

I also have a few bits of planning for the next iteration of the comic, especially things I want not to be so inconvenient or unbalanced this time (for example, keep the fucking cast smaller, stupid.. even though I already have at least five i want to use)

>>943
31
I just saw the original hey arnold claymation and the credits said it was made in 1965, so if craig bartlett can wait 30 years to get his own cartoon, and over 50 years to get the movie he wanted, I think we can all wait

weird though, it looked like 80s claymation and everyone said it aired in the 80s

>>953
either that or you can do the light-colored-outlines technique

>>954
naw I'm 31
god dammit

>>970
>>968

It is okay confusion, I still love you.

doodlin some monk pals

>>972
i want to hear them sing

>>973
that's actually a neat idea, maybe they will

>>974
and now I have the benedictine monks from The Critic stuck in my head
>pretty woman, you are so bodacious
>pretty woman, just like saint ignatius

>>941

hd version of page 1 of METEOR RANDOM from last thread

OK, so I've got an idea, but I'm not really sure how good it is, what if the Black Knight, instead of being an infamous and evil knight, were something more like morgana's personal army? Like really shitty people who decided to enlist in the Black Knights, and she like boosts them up with her sorcery?

>>977
Now, where have I heard something like that before?

>>978
you don't seem to understand, the black knights would be like the basic enemies in a video games, and then there would be actual villains from the arthurian legend, like sir kay, or the green knight

>>943
I'm 20. My webcomic is aimed at young adults, however.

http://abnor.com.br/?lang=en

File size was too big so I screenshotted it.
FINALLY got around to fixing my tablet and messing around with some panels in my sketchbook. My last sketchbook had off-white pages and when I photographed it this natural gradient showed up. I really like how it looked so I just edited around it. I cleaned up smudges, redrew some parts, and added details.

>>943
I'm 19

>>981
Awwwww fuck man. I love this comic

>>975
fuck you got me on a 2h critic marathon

>>981
really digging this

>>977
given how damn many black knights there always are, I love that idea. they could even be called knights of the knighthood of the black knight
>>978
wait, the black knight in that game was more than one guy?

>>981
I loved this page so much. That transition from the melon to the guy's head... I have loved this entire arc, and the ending is just as tragically beautiful as I expected.
>>982
this is beautiful. are you new? this doesn't look familiar..
i feel like it needs a closeup on a navel.

>>984
you're welcome!
nilknarf

>>943
I'm going to be 28 next week. My webcomic is an idea that started when I was 16, and I've locked it in that time period. It takes place in 2005 and is about 15-to-17-year-olds. If actual present day teens find that relatable then that's fine, but the real target audience are the people who would have nostalgic feelings about being that age at that time. I like to think that I write teenagers well enough that real teens would see some appeal.

>>989
you really do. or at least your comic comes off that way
happy almost brithday

>>987
I pop in once in a blue moon, usually with sketches of alien creatures but only now have I finally gotten around to doing something with these ideas. I like doing oneshots but I'm trying to put these into one cohesive story. This is a panel I did last week to add color to my sketchbook

>>943

im 30... but a young 30, i just turned thirty a few days ago on the 23rd of this month... im still young enough to make it dammit!

also im torn between wanting to do all ages stuff, but at the same time hardcore stuff like zonetan and shadman

i mean i want an all ages comic but i also want to draw sexy risky cheesecake whenever i want, which i know i cant do if i want it to be all ages

like why cant i draw porn of all my characters? im a grown ass man! wtf? lol, but at the same time i wont even though i want to to keep it all ages and worthy of being picked up by a big comic book publisher or animation studio one day.

one day soon i hope!

mfw i want my cake and eat it to, mfw deep down i have this horrible feeling that im never going to make it...

I don't know how to pace the appearance of the rogues. Perhaps the archenemy should be less frequent than the others, reserved for special occasions? Seems like in my current outlines, the other antagonists are being brushed aside, running the risk of being irrelevant.

And for the purpose of this discussion, I define the 'archenemy' as 'villain for which the animosity with the hero is personal'. Not just some bullshit where they just fight often, but where the two sides are in a deep personal conflict for reasons important to who they are as people. (mutual slights, ideological differences, you killed my loved one, etc)

I hope I articulated that clearly.

>>992
age has nothing to do with it

maturity, ability to sell yourself, and creating a good product does

>>993
I find it's more fun to mess with interpersonal relationships with the villains
which ones can order around which ones, who doesnt get along with whom.. who's more energetic and loves to make appearances and who is lazy and prefers to let the other villains get their asses beaten

>>983
>>985
>>987
Thanks a lot, guys... BUT it's not over yet, they still have to go back to the city in three days!

>>992
God dammit bones you are the most pathetic person i have ever seen even dewd has more skill than you, but i didn't think you were that old

If you really want to make it get your fucking ass to /ic/ and start reading perspective made easy and then loomis also draw a bunch of boxes

Don't come back here until you get better

>>990
I didn't even say what the comic was!

It's Laserwing. Was it obvious?

Also new page

really rough page 3 sketch

>>998
eh we've talked on here about that stuff before

>>943
I'm 21 next month, and also wip version of the new page. I'm updating twice this week so I can post 2 april fools pages so I'm cutting it close

>>994
>>997
bones stop

>>1001
>2 april fools pages
you madman

>>943
30 years old. Making this webcomic just to see what happens. Hoping I can at least get a fanbase and maybe comissions.

>>1003
i like to live life dangerously

>>943
22 years old, my art may not be that good but I'm always trying to get better, here's the recent page to my comic.

>>1002
>not defending the boner head
>makes point age has nothing to do with shit
>gets called boner head

n-no bully plz

Really fucking hate that the file is too large but here you go: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=zwxeut&s=9

I'm satisfied with how this came out, I think this is how I want to do my webcomic. Thoughts and critiques welcome, /hyw/

>>1008
>Really fucking hate that the file is too large
try shrinking it, my good man. you'll want to do that before you publish it in any way online, you might as well get accustomed to it now
so this can't be page 1, right?

>>1009
Nope, just a sample page. I wanted to test out different looks and this is the one I settled on. In the grand scheme of the plot this particular scene would take place somewhere in the second or third chapter.

>>997
He spent a lot of time on /ic/ spamming his wip, people critiqued his stuff, told him to go to the beginner thread and to practice. He laughed and said people there were delusional, he was at pro level already.
So eventually people there made pic related and stopped replying to him, because there's no point. He eventually came back here because he knows here people will pity him and give him the attention he doesn't deserve.

It's not exactly Bones fault he is worse than even Dewd, he has autism, I don't think it's possible for get better.

midnight bump

Is it a bad idea to have a main character who was forced to kill innocent lives and thus hates that aspect of themselves but find it perfectly ok to maim or even kill raiders and faceless mooks?

Unrelated image but Can someone give me a backstory on the dewd and on why everyone hates him

>>1013
Sounds like a good setup for a moral dilemma and good character building if you do it right.

>>1014
that would be pointless drama
believe what you take in with your eyes and nothing else

>>1014
Mainly just his lack of improvement and endless stream of mediocre art from what I know.

Honestly, I don't get why people get so upset at him. His art's not great but he seems to be at least alright as a person, and to occasionally takes criticism. Compared to people like Bones he's pretty alright imho.

>>1014
Dewd is a special case that manages to rub every person the wrong way in its own unique way. Just give it time, he will make something to piss you off as well.
I thought like this guy once >>1017 and I still remember what did it for me, it was the Overwatch character ripoff episode, where he kept insisting he didn't know anything about Overwatch, didn't see any similarity to the designs at all, and then I understood everything we see happening on this comic is ripped off of what he is consuming at the moment. Right now he is introducing a Jojo character, I believe. What a lazy uncreative piece of shit.

>>1014
Dewd is a cool guy but he just happens to be te slowest person here when it comes to improvement but he does improve from time to time, you only notice that when you have been here for a while

i still don't get what is the story of his comic but i like the characters he makes with silly hats

rotten strawberries was another dude who started posting bad stuff but recently has improved a lot, i love seeing how people improve in these threads, i believe someday dewd will find a way to polish his weird ass drawings into something good, the guy actually has passion

the only person that everyone hates here is bones there is no salvation for that guy and he has ruined many threads

Finished all the line art for the next 6 pages. I was dreading the task of coloring them all but then I remembered I actually enjoyed that part of comics.

>>1020
oh i remember you. glad to see youre still around

>>981

>Partner.
Man...

>>1021
Hey cool, somebody remembers this story. Posting here helped me figure out what direction I wanted to take this, so thanks,

Any advice on the mood for this page, coloring wise? I think I should go with more a more realistic palette.

Oh look, it's a comic

>>1024
I like how you screentone your backgrounds and have them follow the general line of action. I think some artists tend to over-crowd panels.

Are webcomics dying?

>>1024
fact: healers love beaches

>>1026
yes

Giving up on the comics soon. Doing them in a shitty cartoon form has a bit more charm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVVaAeu8ma0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkSrmCQLJpY

>>1028
What killed them?

>>1030
___________(you)___________

>>1018
Nah, the characters I just introduced have nothing to do with Jojo.

Unless you're thinking about the girl's arms being like Kars's arm blades, then yeah, sure.

>>946
>made me pull away from the style as much as I could.
This is just as bad as the opposite.

When you make things with the mindset of "I MUST AVOID THIS TRENDY THING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!" it just makes you look like you're trying to be a pretentious snowflake.

>>1029
I snickered
>>1032
I think he meant visually. you take a lot of visual inspiration
>>1033
I'm glad someone gets this. I see so much intentional ugliness in the name of not drawing too samey or unrealistically or any of a number of other reasons and it's like.. no. art has been about bringing out the beauty of both real life and your imagination since the beginning. if you wanna argue beauty in ugliness, fine, i'm down. give it a shot, show me how it works.. but for god's sake don't ignore your instincts and then think you're somehow above the rest of us

>hundreds of poorly-paced shitty pages before my comic picks up
>sitting with the dread of knowing most new readers won't want to deal with it
>don't want to start huge remake task after promises of not doing so, and other authors ALWAYS advising against it
I just don't know what to do. I want my comic to be a fun experience from start to finish, I don't want it to feel like a chore for new readers to get to the good stuff, but this culture of preservaing and progressing that permeates webcomics makes it so hard to think of a way to deal with it.

>>943
26 years old. I don't have a webcomic, but I do have a published graphic novel, and a second one in the works.

>>1035
What's the name of your comic?
I assume it's a long for comic.
Also, when is it going to end? Could you edit it so that it concludes sooner? What is the shortest way to the ending? Could you do that? That way you could start over with a new project AND achieve finishing your current comic and keep your readers happy.

>>1019
This is either a low-effort troll or coldfusion.

>>1037
>What's the name of your comic?
I'm still kind of scared to go sharing it yet.

>I assume it's a long for comic.
600+ pages.

>Also, when is it going to end?
I have the story planned out, but it's hard to say how many pages it'll be. I've been ballparking 2-3 thousand by the end.

>Could you edit it so that it concludes sooner?
Not really. The problem with my improvement is that the story going forward is much more airtight. It's the early years that I fucked so much up.

>That way you could start over with a new project AND achieve finishing your current comic and keep your readers happy.
I'd rather not struggle to rush to the end of it just for the sake of ending it. Especially if it means a bigger ratio of bad-good.

It's the old pages I need to do something about, not the stuff I haven't gotten to.

What makes a good intro to a comic?
How do I know what'll "hook" new readers?
What are some definite "don't"s? (I know the most obvious one is not starting with a wall of text.)

>>1039
whats the problem with restarting it? I dont think anyone wants to read 200+ pages of garbage

>>1041
Man you guys really can't make up your minds on whether remaking webcomics is a good or a bad idea, huh?

>>1033
I don't think so, I mean. I'm happy(ish) with where my style is at the moment, and I'm always learning. I'm not saying manga style is BAD it's just not really the endgame of what I want. I always grew up loving Mignola and Jeff Smith (the Bones series is really what kick started my want to do a comic). The web comic I really got into first was The Meek some years ago.

>>1042
It's a lot of work. Whether doing a lot of work is a good idea or a bad idea is up to you.

>>1014
Not everyone hates him, I think dewd has some cool comics.

Damn it, I've been mulling over this idea for a comic for years now, I only haven't done it because I can't settle on what happens in between the big events. You guys have any advice for me?

http://cthor-comic.tumblr.com/
https://tapastic.com/series/cthor

Posted a new page fiiiiinally. Also scheduled a new page to go up every Wednesday starting next week on both Tumblr and Tapastic.

>>1039
I'll be brutally honest. Don't restart, whatever you do. It's more important to finish a story if you want to improve. Your problem is you need to learn writing technique. Especially story structure. If you're at page 600 and still don't know exactly the amount of pages you have left, you have NOT planned your story as well as you think. I keep hearing this from comic artists all the time. "It's hard to tell since it depends on so many things and..." no. Just no. Have you reached the inciting event or the first plot point or not? Because you should know. If you don't, your story might be anything from 600 - 10 000 pages for all you know. If you know you've passed the first plot point at, say, page 500, your story SHOULD be 2000 pages long, give or take a couple hundred. If not, you have a structure problem.

If you haven't reached the fist plot point yet, you really need to start editing. 600 pages is way too long to read just to get to the main plot.

Look. Don't be discouraged. Just read about story structure and start Killin your darlings. That's all. I'm saying this because so many artists keep asking the same questions and the road always leads back to story structure, which is something more people should study.

>>1043
>bone is what got me into comics
>The meek is one of the first comics I got into
kek are you me

>>1049
s'good comics, man. though to be fair I like Meek more for the coloring/art style, and Bone I like both the art AND the story.

>>1050
Same, bone had everything down and it was an amazing adventure to read when I was young. I don't remember what my first webcomic was, but meek was pretty early on. The art was my favorite, and I liked the split story lines but I don't think they were well planned out. It was a good starting point to branch out to other comics though

What do you do when nothing is coming out right when drawing? If find there are a lot of times where I'll start drawing and get the incredible urge to stop just because I can't get things to look right.

>>1052
Take a break from your serious work for a little while and loosen up with some sketches. Try doing some figure sketches or background studies to give you a brush up on your observational skills, then do some doodles of things you enjoy, than bring yourself back to whatever you were trying to draw in the first place.

>>1035
People are used to that in webcomics

>>1040
mainly show off your best features and leave them wanting more
>>1046
watch some mellow series that you enjoy, with a lot of low-grade things happening either in between big events or there are no big events, and just steep in that til you've absorbed it

I finally switched to drawing digital. It currently looks kinda "flimsy" like my old pages, but i'll figure it out

>>1056
it still looks amazing and still has your hallmarks. I bet it feels good being able to just fix any mistakes without getting out the whiteout, eh?
You'll get more used to it over time.

>>1057
duuuuuuuuude, i normaly had a sketch, pencils, ink, and digital clean up. Now i can draw right on the initial sketch. it's AMAZING

Also, the banner for my page is making progress

>>1058
somehow I never imagined them as green-skinned. orange maybe.

>>1058
so with digital you mean you replaced your process with layers?

>>1060
yes. and since i have no light-table i used to ink directly on my pencils and then erase it.
It's certainly more comfortable like this.

>>941
I've got about a year's worth of pages already drawn if I keep updating once a week, planned pretty far ahead considering I've only got 4 pages up currently. http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/scape/scape-3/viewer?title_no=68153&episode_no=4

>>1035

>hundreds of poorly-paced shitty pages before my comic picks up

If the beginning has no redeemable qualities other than to set things up, then you probably need to rewrite it.

Otherwise, if your characters and their interactions are interesting enough, you can hold people until things get really interesting.

ive watched proko's videos countless times and figure drawing is still hard. Any other guides?

>>1064
*gesture drawing

>>1064
keep applying the knowledge to life drawing/croquis cafe on youtube, it's supposed to be hard tbqh

>>1056
Cool linework!

Designing characters for Chapter 8; all the human warriors are completely painted, so I've still gotta design that, but drawing paint in this character design would make it too charged.
What do you guys think?

>>943
27, stated mine at 25 I think. My comic is fairly versatile though, so the tone can easily change depending on what I wish to write about

>>1068
I think body paint would help illistrate the fact that they aren't furries, but minotauroids.. because you couldn't paint fur.but you could accomplish the same just by making their skin nicely brown (i dunno where these fucks are from) so it's not necessary. they could have one unifying simple paint design maybe, just over one shoulder or something, Goron style

>>1068

You may not be the best at drawing female bodies, but my dick can't tell the difference and doesn't care!

>>1069
Yeah, some paint would be a nice touch. I think it'll be pretty obvious that the Fomorians aren't furries when they're inked & colored and will look more like humans with goat heads, rather than anthro goats

>>1068
>>1069
If you want to make it less furry-like I'd suggest making the ears more human like as well? Not all the way human, but possibly angled and shaped a little different.

>>1072
I think that'd make it more furrylike. I feel like there's a big difference between animal head on human body and both head and body being halfway between both
sadly a lot of furries get drawn with a half-and-half body and then a totally animal head, which just bothers me

>>1073
oh, also i'm not spacepirate. i dunno why he isnt using trip at the moment

Finished linework and shading

>>1075
yknow if you work on your hands a little bit this is gonna go from good to great

Working on some concepts for my Gorgon character.

Which colour scheme do you think looks best?

>>1076
yeah, I know

>>1077
>the human head is just another snake head
now that's a creative kind of gorgon i haven't seen before.
I kind of like all of them, except the green one's too neon.. but if it was almost any other shade of green i'd have to put it right up there with the other three.
blue's the most unusual I suppose

Bumo

>>1077

>Snee'ka'y sneke!

>>1076
redid the page actually using references instead of off the top of my head

>>1082
there y'go
this loose kind of style doesn't demand anatomical perfection, just something that doesn't look lazy. this works great

>>1077
>>1079
>>1081
I created some character sheets for my Gorgon characters, breaking down her clothing layers and what she looks like without her snake hair.

>>1084

>>943
20

did the bubbles

>>1087
wellbeing is one word, and you probably want a period and not a comma after armor
you should also center 'check it'
otherwise this is nice. good font, i like this comic

>>949
The more you wait better chance that will happen

>>955
When asking the question of lesbians the answer is always yes

>>1088
?

>>1091
you still want a period after armor (or a semicolon), and you'll want a period after us. and for that matter, a comma after king. but i mean if it's an oldtimey letter maybe it would have no punctuation at all?
otherwise you're good.

>>1077
>>1084
>>1085

It's not bad, but that side profile is freaky, lol.

Try smoothing out that forehead/eyebrow growth, and smoothing out the chin.

Try also bending the arms and legs slightly.

>>1092
shit I forgot

>>992
If you draw porn I guarantee your popularity will grow much faster than the other one. You can draw both just keep both blogs separate and never acknowledge them. If someone makes the connection who cares?

>>992

Do you go to /ic/, cus' I notice that meme, also, you got a link?

>>1008
I like it. I don't know anything about you or the comic but I like the art style.

>>946
>>1033
It's personally reasonable to see something that makes you cringe and want to distance yourself from it. It's not like he's going against what he wants to draw, he just started to want to draw something different.

Just starting out my first webcomic that's going to be sort of a practice run before I work up the skills to do the one I'm really excited about. I knew going in that my style would change a lot throughout and I am embracing it but I didn't expect every two pages to look wildly different from the ones before and I've only drawn like five pages.

>>949
>working on first webcomic
>been planning it for years
>elaborate fantasy with a deep lore and lovable characters
>absolutely dedicated to this thing, there's no way I'll lose interest in the setting or the characters, I love all of it
>produce average of 6-7 pages a year over last 2.5 years
>the story will last for hundreds of pages
>storytelling is my passion but I'm somehow cripplingly unmotivated
I can't even muster up external motivation from knowing people aren't going to give a shit about a comic that updates so infrequently because I'm making it for myself and thumbnails satisfy that. I'm in college but I struggle to produce pages in the summer just as badly.

I'm glad I got it started when I did because at least I've been able to make what I have but I'm so disappointed in myself.

>>1040
Zoom in on main character. Voice Over: Yep, that's me. I bet you're wondering how I got myself into this mess.

>>1039
You've actually published 600 pages of your comic already? Well if you're that dedicated I'd say just keep on trucking. If you absolutely must go back and amend earlier pages but don't restart.

Is the Surface Pro 3 worth getting over the 4 for it's lower price despite it being older?

>>1101

My comic starts like that.

>(See that guy right there, That's me. I bet you're wondering how I got here.)

>"Who said that?!"

>(Well, it all started when I murdered my friends and family.)

>"GET OUT OF MY HEAD!"

>>1103
I can't speak for that specific model, but I think it's always worth checking out an older version of something, as long as it's still unopened or barely used. chances are it works just fine

>>1104
Hahaha, I like that. Times like this I wish instead of a webcomic, I was writing for a sketch show

>>1104
I really hope you're joking

>>1107
I'd love a comic about a guy who fights his narrator, though I don't know how long it could really support a story

>>1108
It would be hard to do well.

So while I've been working on my comic there's been a shift in the way I draw, basically I'm liking finer details less and it's becoming more cartoony. Do you guys think that it's changing for the better or worse?

>>1108
Deadpool basically does that in a way.

How would you guys feel if the alt text was the villian talking the whole time?

>>1110
and this one is really just the characters proportions and colors that have changed. part of me likes him the way he was but it's just a lot more natural to draw him this way

>>1110
I like the middle a lot more than the last but that's just me. You can simplify but to me it seems you're losing a lot of the good stuff.

>>1112
"Wait this comic has alt text?" 30 pages in

>>1110
I would stop short of drawing the toes like they were n64 character models, and that hand on the swirly ornate sword is just atrocious compared to the previous one holding the cane, but really the primary differences i'm noticing are not level of detail, but the switch from a ghavial to an alligator. either way the backwards knees are wrong so watch out for that, but I generally like this guy!

I guess I can answer your question by referencing another part of the drawing: hats like those used to take a lot of careful haberdashing and be rather expensive, until someone invented the stovepipe hat and it was ready to wear right off the rack. There's such a thing as good simplification, but on the other hand, the sneaker continues to evolve and become more complex, while there is very little respect for crocs

>>1115
Well, It's a good thing it's over 500

>>1112
fuck that would be pretty cool. I know of an internet radio show where when the villain finally showed up, his voice was the narrator's, and it turned out it had been him all along narrating the story and getting them into trouble.
>>1113
This looks like more of a straight-up downgrade. Rather akin to the redesigns in the New Batman Adventures. Whichever you go with, though, watch out for the arm increasing in length when it bends

>>1113
The first one was much better

>>1116
well he was always meant to be an aligator, I just didn't really know how to draw one before. Yeah I realized soon after dawing the second one that aligator legs don't work like that. though any genetic deviations from a regular gator can be chocked up to the fact that he's been genetically modified to all hell

now, this one's not a fair comparison because I spent a lot more time on the second picture than the new one. but it's clear that the way I draw him is different

>>1121
This is better. The other ones not so much

>>1120
oh no problem then. honestly that's something I might do since gators are shitty at walking
just one more nitpick then, gator teeth only poke out if theyre on the top, no upward pointing ones.. if you wanna chalk that up to genetic tinkering too, no prob, just know that that's one of the basic field guide things you check to see whether it's an alligator or another crocodilian

>>1123
that one is on purpose. in fact he becomes even more fucked up as the series progresses, but I don't have a design for what he'll look like by the end yet.

>>1121
oh now i remember you

>>1125
yeah I work fucking slowly don't I...

>>1126
the important thing is you're improving

This week's page. Last of the 5-part scene. Scene 2 will be up next Monday.

>>1128

It's not too bad at all, I got a chuckle when she grabbed the gun with her foot.

Are they supposed to have dreadlocks, or I am not sure, or do they have like Raggedy Ann hair chunks?

>>1129
Good to hear. Hopefully I can keep it up and improve from here.
And yes, they have dreadlocks, but I made them extra chunky because I just kind of like that look, and it's easier to draw because I'm lazy.

>>1130

Also, is she supposed to be super buff?

>>1131
Yeah. It used to be worse, but I was told she'd look better if I toned it down. Ultimately being buff is part of who she is, so that won't change, but I still want her to be fairly easy on the eyes.

>>1132

Do you have anymore to show? Rather interested.

>>1113
>>1118
>>1119
alright I tried tweaking it up a bit and putting in the original color palette. how is it?

>>1134
The color ins't the problem. There's no life in the second one. The alligator one had a similar problem as well. Though the blue dinosaur thing didn't have that much life in it to begin with. I'm not totally sure how to help you.

>>1133
Sure. The comic itself is at http://lebrandeus.com

>>1072
Your version looks real good. It works when you're trying to make them more... "demonic" I guess would be the word. It's worth experimenting with at the very least.
I believe describing Fomorians as having Goat (or other animal) heads happened post-Christianity; though there isn't a consistent description of them with few exceptions like Balor have one eye, one arm, and one leg.

>>1100
Treat it like a routine (like, 1-2 hours every day right after classes), and you'll see the page will fly by

>tfw uploading the unfinished version
epic
Last week's update, not sure if I want to go with a direct followup to this scene or a few days later.
Playing around with some loose panels is fun

>>1136

Thanks, I was just reading it, so the little one is in fact not a male, but the taller ones sister, they are both sisters?

Blocking out some colors. Very sick of my tablet's inconsistency. Going to go pass out now.

>>1140

Bump, also, are colors just not showing up?

cute girl bump

Can I get an invite? My discord is Christian#5313

>>1089
>just go for it, the sooner the better xDDD
>you gotta plan the whole story with an ending and have 100 pages backlog before posting xDDD
kinda getting sick of this constant dissonance

>>1139
That is correct.

>>941
>How far have you planned your webcomic? Do you have the whole script written out of are you writing page-by-page? Share some of your future plans! What scenes, characters, locations, events, etc are you excited for!
I plan extensively. I had stories ready before I could draw at all. I am excited that I can mKe things work the way I want now, and I can't wait to see how shitty today's art looks to me in a couple years.
I am going to relaunch in late april early may, but my preview stuff has generated unexpected traction.
Also, I am way older than anyone in here. One of the reasons I spend time in places like /co/ is that not everyone has surrendered yet.

Don't ever give up. Would you rather be a broken old fuck, or a broken old fuck who can DRAW?

re:the thread activity

I've had an outline for the first few chapters of my comic planned out for awhile and an idea for where I want to go for the rest of it. Trouble is I keep going back and rewritting shit. Some of it was cutting shit out and making a better story but I'm always worried that I'm using rewriting my story as an excuse not to pull the trigger and make the damn thing already.

Thread activity:
>How far have you planned your webcomic?
We know the end and the key plot points, but not exactly how we're going to get there just yet.

>Do you have the whole script written out or are you writing page-by-page?
I write the script out a full chapter at a time, and I go through several drafts before I hand it over to the artist. It takes about a year to work through a chapter, and I draft and finalise the next chapter before the previous one finishes. I sometimes tweak bits of dialogue as we go along, but it's usually just really pedantic grammatical stuff.

>Share some of your future plans! What scenes, characters, locations, events, etc are you excited for!
In a nutshell: more fight scenes, more monsters, supernatural sleuthing, splitting the party, drama, plot, and a little romance.

>>1141
The colors are showing up fine, I've just never gotten pressure sensitivity to work consistently and resetting the tablet drivers only works half of the time. That wouldn't be so bad if it didn't pair with my computer treating short pen strokes as right-clicking, which selects color, so I'm rarely able to do detail work. It's really disheartening.

>>1048
>If you're at page 600 and still don't know exactly the amount of pages you have left, you have NOT planned your story as well as you think
Not him but that's one of the most fucking retarded things I've ever read.

>>1144
You need to have an ending and major story events planned out, and a backlog will definitely help if you want to keep a consistent schedule at the start, but you also can't put off starting that backlog (after you've gotten a visual sense of how you want to do it) or you'll just keep fine-tuning and you'll never actually put the thing out.

>>1150
If your story has an end planned and it isn't meant to be a sprawling shonen journey then 600 pages with no end in sight probably means you've fucked up the pacing. Totally depends on story and individual page length, though.

>>1145

I honestly thought that was a guy. With the whole sexual tension tones and butt wiggling in front of "her" scenes.

>>1149

Are you sure you have the correct driver downloaded?

I had the same problem, which I discovered was an incorrect driver.

Which Wacom do you have?

>>1152
You moved the goalpost from "you should know EXACTLY how many pages it should take to end your story!" to "You need to have an end planned!"

>>1112
Alt text is stupid.

>>1104
>starting your comic with a fourth wall break
kys

>>1153
Pen and Touch, been using it since... 2012, maybe?
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Pen-and-Touch/dp/B002OOWC3S/ref=sr_1_16?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1490803143&sr=1-16&keywords=pen+and+touch
This one.
The tablet I had before this had the same issue and this tablet's had these issues over three different computers. I tried replacing it with a Monoprice after a total driver uninstall a few years back but it did it too. It feels like a curse.

>>1154
I was saying that if you have the end of the story planned but from 600 pages in you're either a) far enough from the end or b) haven't gotten enough of a grasp on your own pacing that you can't estimate how long the last stretch of the story will be in pages, you're probably meandering.

Again, it totally depends on the kind of comic you're making. If you're writing a sprawling fantasy/action piece with a bunch of arcs then it's reasonable to go well beyond 600 pages. If your pages are 1-3 panels and you want to tell a long-form story with that then 600 pages will be likely be proportionally early in the story compared to something more traditionally formatted. But a traditionally formatted comic telling a traditionally formatted plot with a beginning, middle, and end should probably be written more tightly.

These aren't hard and fast rules, I'm sure there are excellent exceptions to them, it's just useful to evaluate when you're that far in how much further you want to go.

>>1148

>>1035
What's the theme?

>>1153
I could see that. She is androgynous enough for that mistake to be made in-universe (probably some jokes I could make using that).
As for Aisling's (older sister) bizarre behavior, that's mainly because she's just a fucking weirdo.

>>1035
>story is a journey split up into traveling to a specific destination and then the journey back
>most entertaining characters are introduced at the destination and beginning of the second half
I still enjoy the first half, I don't think it'll be a slog or anything, but introducing these characters is going to kick the whole thing up a notch and I'm years out from them.

>>1144
it's almost like there's more than one person in the thread
>>1146
you really are getting better'n better
>>1149
are you sure you aren't just accidentally squeezing the side button while you do short strokes? also what program do you use that has rightclick as color-select? because I used to have that and I miss it, but I don't think it would work as well with a tablet due to the glitchiness of right click's button in general
sucks about the bad luck there but I bet you can get it working

>>1163
Yeah, it's just a weird thing where holding it down without moving it registers as a right click. I use Paint Tool SAI.

>>1158
One would hope you'd have the pace by then, but what if your pace keeps changing? Some people just go where the comic takes them, and it keeps messing with your expectations

>>1164
hmm, more points for sai
have you tried other programs to make sure it's the wrong driver for your tablet and not just for that program? Also, I've known some things to interfere weirdly. like for example if I use VLC at all it turns pressure sensitivity off until I close that program or reopen photoshop (and then if I pause or unpause vlc again it shuts pressure sensitivity off again)

>>1166
It happens from startup with all background processes closed, and it isn't exclusive to SAI, but I haven't experimented too much other programs. Might be worth a shot.

>>1167
good luck man. your shit is good, you need a workin tablet

>>941
Oh man, sad I didn-t read the OP because I actually like these discussions
>How far have you planned your webcomic?
I have the whole thing loosely planned out, but only the layouts of the next two chapter planned.

>you have the whole script written out of are you writing page-by-page?
I try to get the whole script for a chapter written out when I start drawing it; doesn't ALWAYS work out though

>Share some of your future plans! What scenes, characters, locations, events, etc are you excited for!
Two things, really:
1. FINALLY finishing the current story arc. I'll be done with Chapter 7 this week, when we just got 1 chapter + epilogue to end it.
2. Starting the Second story arc. This time much more of a Low Fantasy feel to it; it won't have any magical elements besides the two main characters and is instead a more typical Knight's tale

>>943
18 ;_;

>>1156
Oh, this is cool. I like your blacks and crosshatching.

>>1170
Everything looks so green it makes me queasy... Other than that I like your art. Nympho a cute

>>1169
oh man, shit is going DOWN.
>>1156
would absolutely pet
>>1171
seafoam isn't a queasy color though, it's minty fresh!
and a nymph isn't the same thing as a nympho, cmon now anonnles. you know that.

>>1172
She's totally a country girl nympho, and yep the green wash makes me want to shoot myself

>>1171
Thanks. I wanted the whole color palette of the world to look kinda grimy and dull, but I totally agree with you. I'll try to color balance better in later pages.

>>1170
>18
Your art is real good for being only 18. You've got a bright future ahead of you art-wise.

>>1172
This chapter HAS been quite a lot of fun to write now that the plot's moved beyond "Fairy of the week" It's been a pain to draw though, since I have to cram so many soldiers in rather small pannels

>>1169
This page is really dark on my screen. Kinda unreadable in parts.

Also your words don't quite fit in your balloons. And the balloons are invasive to the action. You did good making them dim though. Maybe do a bit more prey planning on where they go.

bmp?

>>1176
>This page is really dark on my screen. Kinda unreadable in parts.

I'll re-work it, thanks. That's something I wasn't sure about since it looks fine on my screen, but too dark when I looked at it in m work moitor

>>1178
these last few pages have been really dark yeah, but it's not 'wrong' or anything. It's more like it's a shame that you put so much detail into these guys when, both in-universe and out, they'd be little more than silhouettes
I also have to confess I've sort of lost track of events. What happened to get everyone riled up and suddenly unfriendly? Oddly this same thing happened in Carrion Girls and at least three books I've read... somehow sudden nighttime changeups go right over my head

Doing this as a poster for my program's student showcase. I'm really proud of it.

>>1159

brunch

>>1175
Thanks, and God, I hope.

>>1180
Looking nice. Something seems a little off about some of the bodies' proportions even when considering they're supposed to be super deformed. I think the black haired woman's body is a little small. Are you going for a Dr. Slump-ish style here?

>>1183
Yeah Dr. Slump right on the button.
They're super deformed.

I'm gonna redo the background because I have a week before due. and I feel it's holding the picture back.

page 4

>>1147
I have this problem too. Generally I'm of the opinion that it's better to get shit pretty solid before starting, especially with webcomics because so many slow to a crawl when the artist inevitably gets to the point where they didn't plan out enough and has to write page by page instead of outlining.

That said, one thing that's helped me actually get a move on with mine has been tweaking the first few chapters so that they're almost, but not quite, a standalone story. Basically a simple three-act story that leads up to the inciting incident of the ACTUAL first act, but with enough of a mini plot to hold its own. It's really let me get a feel for the characters and the world before throwing them into the grander story. Not sure if that would work for your plot, but it might force you to get at least one solid chunk completely written so you can start putting stuff out there.

>>1186
see I find it goes the other way, they START out doing pages by the seat of their pants (too impatient to wait when there's pages to post) then slow down when it starts working so they start planning more in order to do what it feels like they owe to their audience

i like your idea though, some of my favorite comics start out with a selfcontained story for the first chapter, then once it's over they take a break and start doing more of a long-form comic

I want to write a slice-of-life comic set in a high school for main characters, so its populated with archetypes from different genres and demographics (overbearing soccer players, seinen psychic delinquents, melodramatic tennis players etc). All the students are ranked on how strong a protagonist they would be, and the lower-ranked are all relegated to side/background characters while the higher-ranked rise to the likes of being club leaders, class presidents, student council etc.

But "school for main characters" seems a little thin in premise, so I consider having the kids be ordinary but giving them bodysuits to make them powerful instead. S/A-ranked students get the most benefit from the suits, C-ranked get no benefits but no drawbacks, D and below start straining their bodies to stay mobile. Then the setting of the story can be filled in (the technological/social progress and obstacles of people being augmented, how bias has changed/fallen over generations) and that can influence how characters in the story can think.

Alternative I can skip that, keep the first story idea and make the history just a fantastical clusterfuck of a setting (grim detectives, wise-cracking superheroes, paragons on the streets).

tweaked it a bit, added dialogue

>>1188
i dunno man, empowering clothes is kinda stepping on kill la kill's toes a bit, and ranking them by letter is exactly the same.

Does anyone have any ideas for combat light magic that isn't somehow related to fire? I'm really struggling with this one and need some input.

>>1191
i've never seen any light magic that WAS related to fire. in my experience it falls under a few categories
>lasers, beams, rays, sparkly shiny star projectiles, etc
>forcefields (i guess because holograms? doesn't make sense but there it is), illusions, invisibility, etc
>blinding flashes or some kind of magical light that illuminates secrets
>holy shit, purifying, healing, etc. here the light is more metaphorical

Webcomic? Maybe one day.

>>>/i/497113

>>1190
>i dunno man, empowering clothes is kinda stepping on kill la kill's toes a bit

I guess, but to honest I think Kill la Kill wasted its own premise, so I'm fine with that. They didn't really do anything with the school setting or empowering clothes, just explained it to the audience and then went 'here's our protagonist who makes all these ranks redundant'.

>>943
I'm 21 and literally started to draft out my first comic 2 days ago
Though I mostly don't know what im doing but its looking like it'll play out well when all the pages are put in order, minus a few errors

>>1193
heh. das cute. keep it up. good practice.
>>1194
and thank god for it. I hated the school setting, thankfully it turned out to be just a backdrop, something to parody.
You're right though it did kind of burn through the escalation rapidly, but that was almost certainly itself a parody

>>1192
I'm thinking rays are the closest, but it feels kinda lazy desu.

>>1197
lazy? frickin laser beams are my favorite power, they're so underutilized, especially in fantasy. One of the things that made pokémon so cool is that their powers were so strongly influenced by kaiju shit instead of the same ol' samey boring RPG spells, and shooting beams out of the mouth was the epitome of that. considering dbz did it too, I dunno, it just always felt like this really cool thing we were all in on. beats the hell out of 'oh i'm hitting you with sparkles and glitter!' magic

>>1198
Alright. How do you think shadow magic be utilized in combat, then? Besides, hiding in the shadows and striking assassin style, that's already covered.

>>1199
Not him but theres a number of ways you can do shadow magic that doesnt involve le sneaky sneak
For one theres that voodoo shit where your shadow goes out and attacks other peoples shadows, dealing damage to them
you could have their shadow bubble up and explode or even come to life dark link style
you could also have magic that causes shadows strain against the light, causing huge amounts of pressure to build up around them

>>1199
shadow's a lot harder. Oddly enough it tends to overlap and include the illusion stuff.. plus it has a few opposite thematic stuff like being demonic/vampiric style, life draining, or just forming evil-looking shapes, sickles, spikes, etc out of blackness.. causing various status ailments.. you also get teleportation a lot. but none of that has anything to do with darkness in any way other tham metaphorically. Only hiding in shadow and blinding people makes direct sense.
It's hard to think of a real authentic 'elemental' attack for darkness since in reality it's just 'nothing'. so you could roll with that, include the power of void, of vacuum.. depriving people of oxygen, deleting objects from existence, causing catastrophic cavitation (like a mantis shrimp), that kind of thing. but honestly i'm all for just ripping off another element and paletteswapping it. black fire, black lasers, or maybe making black holes.

>>1201
>honestly i'm all for just ripping off another element and paletteswapping it. black fire, black lasers, or maybe making black holes.

I might just have light lasers for light magic and black lasers for shadow magic. By lasers, I also mean like, light energy balls, shadow energy balls. Just pure "energy," if you will. I suppose no one will judge shit like that too harshly, right?

>>997

holy shit i think this comment made bones kill himself... is he dead?

poor guy, he just wanted to be a part of a group of artist that made webcomics like he did, he even had everyones webcomic here in his firefox bookmarks he posted a few threads back... but he chose the wrong place to hang out with other webcomic artists I guess since everyone here is a terrible TERRIBLE person that should feel bad about themselves from the time they wake up to the time they go to sleep and should probably anhero themselves desu.

>>1202
i mean, you won't be alone
it also helps if you make them stylistically different. if a laz0r beam creates a lot of heat and maybe mirage effects in the air from said heat, maybe a shadow beam chills things or seems to drain their color. my japanese animes tend to give shadow attacks a lot of crackling lightning around them, whereas western things seem to make anything black glow purple, as if perhaps its emissions are just out of the visible spectrum range

>>1204
That gives me an idea. Light magic energy is a mix of heat and lightning, whereas shadow magic is a mix of cold and... the opposite of lightning, I suppose. I'll have to think on that one. Ice feels a little too easy, but it might be what I choose.

Either way, neither shadow or light magics are "good" or "bad," so I'm not worried about symbolism in those regards.

>>1205
hmmm sound maybe. lightning is electrons moving through a substance, sound is vibrations moving through something while its substance stays in place.. plus you'd have the fun of every darkness attack having a super low-frequency rumble to contrast the high pitched pew pew of lasers. for the sake of the jargon you'd say 'cold and thunder'

I don't like spoilers so here

>>1207
what is this, a comic for sand?

>>1208
Whoops, you're right, here you go

>>1203
Go back to twitter, Dobson

>>1209
>literally a comic for ants because that's how compound eyes see
nice job

>>943
I am 18
My comic is pretty weeb comic inspired too, but I stray far enough away from my inspirations in terms of setting/characters/atmosphere, etc for it to be original enough.

I don't think age is a problem if you want to make a weaboo comic. After all, people will only care about the art, not the artist,

>>1206
Interesting idea. I'll have to see if it fits.

Aye man can i get an invite to this discord?
Zander#8435

>>1157
>Since 2012

That's fortunate. I got a secondhand one that my buddy got around the same time, it broke on me like summer of 2016

Is this the right place to talk about running /qst/s?

I ask because I don't think /qst/s allows for meta-threads.

>>1216
yeah we consider those comics

>>1217

Ok.

How do I run a quest that isn't shit?

>>1218
be cute, have fun, and improvise

>>1218

Consistent scheduled updates is ideal if you plan on finishing a quest.

Everything else is subjective, or directly related to your ability to improvise.

You don't need to give the audience every option imaginable all the time, but every once and a while throw in something that encourages exploration where it makes sense. Let them use their imagination; They'll get more invested in it, and it will help hone your improvisation skills. Remember that your readers aren't the only people that need to have fun. You have the wheel, and if you don't like where you're going you'd better turn that fucker around fast.

>>1220
that and.. at first, make lots of little updates, til you have enough of a following to do less-often big ones

>>1179
Oh man, I supposed it's not so easy to follow when the story progresses one page per week
Richard accidentally reveled he was helping the northerners when he and the Fox Knight were talking about their respective curses, remember? He naively thought he could help the Fox Knight out but ended up being betrayed

>>1191
How about things like becoming invisible by preventing light from reflecting on you?

>>1222
okay, i THOUGHT it was something like that, but I didn't quite pick up on what

>>1195
Keep going looks cool!

Today's page. Coloring them out of order.

As far as thread topic goes:
1) It's all planned except for specific emotional beats. This is meant to be a relatively short story.

2) I'm not really writing page by page as much as trying to nail certain arcs. At the moment I'm sowing the "seeds of doubt" in the MC, to push him into action to leave the salt mines and board the train to nowhere. Harder than I thought. I'm still on the fence whether I should explicitly state that the "unsalt" is sugar or not. I guess there are cons and pros of it....

3) I'm pumped to draw the payout for the whole setup, which is where the MC hits their real low point and then fate smacks them in the face.

>>1225
neat. do i know this comic?

anyone know if wacom slate is any good?

its been out for a while but there are only a handful of reviews on amazon and they seem to be pretty evenly distributed among 1,3,4 and 5 stars.

>>1226
I've talked about it on /co/ before, but I haven't updated in a while.

https://tapastic.com/episode/588708

>>1180
Any tips for doing nice backgrounds in Sai? I find it difficult doing any sort of perspective work digitally.

Bump!

>>1180
Fixed background.
Does it look better?

>>1231
No, now it's just shapes.
The left side of the old one is where it's at.
If you can, try doing the warped city look.

>>976

so i sat down and drew a lot of traditionally art last night at my art desk for the first time this year to see if i could still draw traditionally after drawing digitally so long, i just now scanned 4 drawing i did, here is the worst one i did first, its of METEOR WHEELS from my METEOR RANDOM project

>>1233

drawings*

this one is of my main fire knight Emer L. the green fire knight from my DEMON FUSE project

>>1234

and this one is Nina from my GOTH GRILL Z project!

>>1235

and this ones fan art but its the best thing i drew last night, freestyle no reference

Why is your line quality so bad, do your hands shake?
And this one >>1234 is almost presentable, but could still use some solid lines.

>>1237
He's an old Mexican man what do you expect

>>1233
>>1234
>>1235

i tried drawing Fera from my FATES CHAOS project but it didnt turn out right because i forgot her official design i made on the left when i was freestyle sketching and then on the right i fucked up my incredible pencil work with ink instead of marker like the next thing im about to show yall

>>1237
no, my hands dont shake you fucking retard, the wood i was drawing on has bumbs and scratches in it, i recently fixed this by just putting more paper behind whatever im drawing

>>1238
if you think 30 is old you are a literal child, gtfo retard!

>>1239
The way you construct your lines is indicative of poor technique, not a bumpy drawing surface.

>>1239

like this one was a really good pencil sketch of fera i did, but it was the first thing i took a marker to last night and everything went wrong... Everywhere!

>>1239
I'm new to these threads, are you really 30 or is it a meme?

>>1240

are you blind or can you not read good? i just said in that very post your responding to that this was my worst drawings from yesterday and was before i fixed the bumpy surface problem

>>1241
same with this one

>>1242

ive been doing digital stuff only for over a year now and i havent drawn anything traditionally all year, im just warming up and working the pencil, pen, marker and paper kinks out! i will draw better stuff tonight and from now on with no mistakes like the ones your seeing in this thread, or just say fuck it and go back to digital, only time will tell

>>1241
and here is another one for yall to laugh at, the second worst thing i drew last night, a freestyle night wing sketch, is it his actual outfit? i have no idea, i just drew this costume out of memory and its probably completely wrong, this was a bad ass pencil sketch i made though, until i messed it up with marker, but re-learn by doing i guess, i used to be a fucking pro with a maker and all my stuff looked like pro con sketches but i never scanned any of it, oh well

>>1243
Chill, it was just a general criticism.

Practicing doing your lines in one stroke will benefit you a ton in the long run, and will help avoid the chicken-scratch lineart. It'll start looking better when you get used to the tools you're using, anyway. Good luck!

>>1245
Just for future reference, don't reply to Bones. He's either a troll or a literal idiot and will never improve. People have been trying to help him for years with no luck.

>>1244

ignore the date, i just made it 2-2017 so if anyone in the future finds it irl it wont make me look so bad

The reason I had to slow down my current update schedule was because I've been drawing another comic(s) for a several month long school project. It's an education comic booklet series on the Sonoran Desert.

>>1248

>>1228
ohhh salt lick guy

>>1248
That's awesome

>>1228
The shift from first to second person is a little odd, is there a reason?

>>1248
oh that's kinda nea-
>>1249
COATIMUNDI!! wait, since when do they live in deserts? and parrots? is there more about the sonoran desert I didn't know? considering how overstudied it seems to be..
also what's that in the middle, some kind of civet?

>>1253
Left to right it's a white nosed coatimundi, jaguarundi, and thick billed parrot. Glad at least the coati is recognizable! Apparently, many tropical/subtropical species live in the forests of the Sonoran desert too, and coatis can get as far north as Arizona.

>>1254
duuude for the first time ever I wish I lived in arizona. i wanna pet one of those fucks

oh wow, jaguarundis are a kind of cat i wasnt aware of? i can't believe there's some of those left. they have such cute and weird faces.. i want one

TFW When you’re trying to sneeze but can’t

Anyways, this is a practice animation I did mostly to test Dupe’s model, expressions and most importantly matching up the monitors and animating the lighting on everything in the environment.

>>1256
damn dude nice animation
I have the opposite problem, I have to try not to sneeze ever, because it makes me wheeze and start getting the whole allergy thing

>>1232
I'm absolutely terrible at free handing backgrounds, I went with the basic shape approach to make it more readable. I'll try adding onto it though.

>>1258
Just adding some detail to the buildings would add a lot, I think. Like some windows, awnings, stuff like you had in the original version of the background.

I'm determined to make actual progress on my script today. I'm at a bump in the road dialogue-wise and I just have to put something down, move forward, and fix it later.

>>1259
Aight sounds good. Thanks anon.

>>1260
How exactly do you structure a comic script? I've just been thumbnailing pages and thinking up dialogue on the spot.

>>1262
that's one way. i tend to do it the opposite.

>>1262
What do you mean by "structure it?"

>>1262
Related question, how do you guys convert a comic script/background writing into comic panels... Like where do you decide you split the pages and posing for thumbnails. Is it just something you practice and learn over time?

>>1265
Personally, I storyboard the comic like a movie, not even worrying about panels. After that, once it's revised enough, most pages will naturally group together.

>>1265
I mainly think of expressions. I include as much dialogue as I can with the given gestures and expressions that I've drawn, and if the dialogue changes mood or requires a new gesture, well, it's new panel time.

>>1236

ok, just made a couple of brand new sketches, all original characters

top left to right: green fire knigt from demon fuse, fera stardust from fates chaos, beats from goth grill z

mid left to right: meteor super from meteor random, ladara from goth grill z, and the green fire knight again from demon fuze

bottom left, nicole steelsilver the silver fire knight from demon fuze

>>1268

ahem, all made on my new winnie the poo sketch pad, it has a washed out pic of the cover on the back of every blank white page and i dont know if that bled through in the scans or not so here is what it looks like if it did so you know whats on the back of every drawing. :^)

my grandmother gave me this pad yesterday and i used it for the first time today about an hour ago, all sketches took about 2 to 4 minutes each to make

>>1268

i think this is the best one desu famz

>>1237

do you see how much better i am with pencils than ink and color? also notice no jagged lines and more control because im drawing over several sheets of paper instead of a bumpy old wooden drawing board. like i said, my hands dont shake at all, dumb ass

>>1265
It'll come to you with time and experience, but things like scene changes or surprise revelations* are suitable places to put page breaks.
If you have an idea of how many panels a page you draw, then putting in a page break every (eg) 6 to 8 panels is a good rule of thumb. Adjust this according to scene changes, story flow, etc.
It's an art, not a science, and part of the writing side of making comics.

*While less applicable for purely web comics, if you're thinking about having a print version, put dramatic revelations and such like on a left hand side page, especially if it's a splash panel. If it's on the right, when the reader turns the page there's the chance they'll get a spoiler before reading the build up on the previous page.

>>1271
>If it's on the right, when the reader turns the page there's the chance they'll get a spoiler before reading the build up on the previous page.
glad to hear SOMEONE gets this. honestly i get dramatic moments spoiled all the time because they're midway down a page, and i just ... see it. or worse the whole page is done in columns so you can't help it

>>1234
>>1243
Honestly this looks exactly like Shredder from TMNT

>>1248
>>1249
These are very nice

>>1228
This is cool

>>1273

I dont see it at all, are you high anon?

rate design

>>1277
the design, not the anatomy, right?
he looks like a cross between a shiftless drifter and a really cool BFG-esque guy

>>1110
Work on the legs, maybe make them cross over and make him lean on the cane/sword more

>>1046

That image hits pretty goddamn close to home, Anon.

>>1277

Starving meth-addled Jon Snow/10

Does anyone else here try to improve their comic by studying? I've recently dug into "Understanding Comics" by Scott McCloud and "The Anatomy of a Story" by John Truby. I've also found some really great art books and art tutorial books, I think its really helping

>>1282
studying, absorbing inspiration, all kinds of things

>>1282
How the fuck else are you going to get better?

>>1282
>>1284
I honestly don't understand how studying helps, other than a basic "how to arrange panels" level and the like. I found that just drawing comics and getting critique and trying to identify my own mistakes is what helped improve my comics the most.

>>1285
You study art not comics. Composition used in illustrations can be adapted to arranging comic pages and studying fine art in general helps you to not draw like a pissbabby which makes your comic suck less.

>>1286
I get studying art, as in gesture sketches, color studies, backgrounds studies, etc. I do those and they help, but anon was talking about just studying from a book. I don't understand how just reading Understanding Comics helps unless you do a lot of practical exercises to put that information to use

>>1287
i think practical exercises and reading are collectively called "Studying"

>>1252
Huh, I didn't notice. I just thought it sounded more engaging. Does it actually interrupt the flow? If it leads people to think there's more going on than there is, I'd rather stick to first person throughout. Story's already confusing as is.

>91173376
Thanks, man, appreciated.

>>1289
I just can't imagine why the phrasing would change unless the narrator has actually changed

>>1290
Makes sense, anon. Went ahead and fixed it for better clarity.

>>960
I was literally you a couple of years, I know you have the idea for the comic anon, I know it, help yourself with a couple storyboards, or fanzines, Im in the middle of the road to get done digitally my first chapter, you can do it anon.

>>943
21, I have the storyboards in paper for the first chapter after like, 2 years? shit, and planing to take to digital within this year, do whatever you want my dude.

okay, so, seven days in between comics is not what I usually tolerate
but hopefully scenery like this justifies both the wait and all the zelda i'm playing.. because it helped inspire that shit.

>>943
21. I've been coming up with comic ideas since I was around 11 but didn't start actually drawing them until I was 19.

I've been working at improving my early stories over the last few years, which have generally solid bases for plotlines but dumb details here and there because a middle-schooler made them. Like a story that takes place in a laboratory where the main character has dumb angel wings (because I enjoyed D.N.Angel and those Maximum Ride books) but also has a very emotionally charged plot and concepts I still think are fascinating. If I can rework it properly I'd put it on the queue right after Lido and my potential sequel to Lido (which also needs story work).

I also had a zombie story that I used to funnel all of my unaffiliated character designs into a single comic (including an albino supermodel of all things) but had a plotline I loved and genuinely don't think I've ever seen used in a zombie story, somehow? It was really basic, probably couldn't carry the story very far on its own, but if I could come up with a stronger main plot it could be attached to... I still wouldn't make it. Who the fuck wants another zombie story? But it'd be very satisfying. Maybe it's worth a short vignette, like 10-20 pages, where the reader can just mentally paste in literally any other crappy zombie setting because the zombies are so rarely the point anyway.

>>1295
sometimes I suspect you are me. just a little.

>>1296
I would like to see more

>>1297
What else would lead you to think that? And I'd love to hear about your stories.

>>1299
well actually you just made me think of some others I used to follow back when I was a teenager, stuff like on20 and the writings of Ewen Cluney, but that shit is nearly all gone from the interwebs now. Still it inspired me a lot
but I did have some projects for leftover character designs to go to, including one about a stupidly massive fighting tournament with multiple elaborate factions
and yeah I used to think about genre-work and realize that while my idea might have added one unique thing, it wouldn't carry a whole long story

>Wanting to get really into drawing
>Can't draw a straight line for shit on a tablet cuz shaky hands
>Have to erase so much that the paper is grey if I do it on paper
How do you guys keep going without getting mad at yourself and giving up?

>>1301
okay is ok, but first of all, are you studying FUNdamentals?

>>1301
Use your arm not your wrist.

>>1302
Um... I don't think so. What do you mean?

>>1304
nothing fancy, things like forms, perspective, light and shadow teory, and more, are the fundamentals, look, check out sycra, he got a video list dedicated to that topic, also, take your time, I would recommend you first to master the "form of shapes". you can go and draw whatever you want my dude, but this, is vital if you wanna be in that world.

>>1305
Alright, I'll start working on that first, thanks

>>943
22

doubt there's an age limit

been drawing ideas since I was 14

My own was pretty weeb too. I had a comic idea where the story revolved around a guy born into a tribe of prophets/seers who would learn of oncoming danger and find heroes to beat it but the twist was that this time the prophecy never specified who it was so not even the seers would know, so the main character set out for heroes by himself

lot of it was inspired (read: heavily lifted) from a Dragon Quest IX save file I had, as well as some FE Blazing Sword cause the seer/prophet MC basically acts as a tactician as well as a guardian

I'm working on another idea but maybe I'll revisit it one day, who knows

Nightly salt.

>>1301
Paint tool Sai which you can easily get for """"""free""""""" has a line stabilizer, I'd suggest you go for s-3 or smth, play around with it.
Otherwise you have to practice more and draw from the elbow, not the wrist.
Also check out some youtube tutorials for beginner or smth, practice doesn't actually help much if you're not doing useful things.

>>1181

Bumpo

Wake upppp

>>1308
Is the salt a metaphor for something?

Beginning layouts for BQ!

>>1268

I got a bunch of new drawings to scan today, might do it tonight, got a really cool hell boy drawing i did last night

>>1024

That red hair on a black/dark brown dude is annoying as fuck, couldn't take it any more famz

please consider changing his hair color, thanks!

*quality reduced to 180kb for easy upload

>>1314
>Held against your will against a giant breast

>>1315

ya know with black hair this looks like a really cool character now, i dont know why but he looks atlantean now, like this could take place in atlantis or something

also i left the red in the axe because it looks like a magical weapon now, like a blood axe or something, also adds a lot of fantasy element to the character

also now with the bad ass black hair and blood axe he fits in with the other characters and doesn't looks so out of place and like a fucking eyesore that makes it impossible to read the fucking comic which im assuming you want people to actually read this thing right?

>>1317
>when you find yourself agreeing 100% with bones

>>1315
Bones is right, also he now looks like a male.
He is male, right?

>>1301
If you're really that shaky, look into sculpture to get your artistic shit out. or medication. you might be hyperthyroid or something. but I'm willing to bet you aren't thaaat shaky, just unpracticed
>>1319
nnope
>>1318
that's part of his trolling. like when he false-flags accusations about his art that any idiot can tell isn't a fair accusation. he got caught doing it the other day.

Back to drawing my hobbyish comics and its characters.

I swear, I hope this is the last time I have to work without reference. My hands hurt and I've still to clean and sharp the lines of this. I'm not made to be an artist, I would say.

Polite bump

>>1320
Are you saying the red hair dude isn't a dude? The fuck? What's with these comics here all of a sudden with ambiguous genderfluid snowflakes

I keep drawing and redrawing concept art but I never post it or serialize it. I think my art is balls, so I don't show it online even though it's anonymous. Everything sucks.

>>1323
That's actually not bad, anon.

Just keep drawing stuff - you'll only improve.

You can always draw sequential stuff then redraw it at a later date if you're not happy with it.

bra and panties sketch bump!

this is my worst sketch from last night. still pretty cool. its suzzy v. from my DEMON FUSE webcomic COMING SOON!

also ballpoint pens suck! i need some of those metal tipped pens, i dont know what their called but you know the ones! they come with a bottle of ink i think? yall know what im talking about

>>1320

>make a man, call it a woman to appeal to tumblr and reddit

for what purpose to you do this fuckery?

>>1325

DREW THIS EARLIER TODAY...

GOT TO GET BACK... BACK TO THE PAST... SAMURAI JACK!

probably my worst sketch so far today lol

>>1315

heres that hellboy I drew last night!

as good as this look, my pencils looked a million times better! i dont have a scanner at my house so i couldnt scan it and i was in a hurry to ink it in with permanent marker before i changed my mind and left it a pencil sketch... which is what i should of done. my pencil work for this drawing was FUCKING INCREDIBLE AND PERFECT! fuck...

>>1277
Pretty clear you've drawn faces before, but rarely legs.

>>1322
it's a tumblr world
this person at least is one of the good ones, so I'd just leave it alone. it's a legitimately good comic with a good pedigree. I say we ignore it and wait for trends to change.

>>1323
top quality eyes, guy. can you draw more than eyes?
>>1328
sounds like he skipped leg day

>>1329
I blame people who scream "sameface" and "weeaboo" at people if they draw pretty, but reward them for drawing really ugly grotesque cartoony things saying "nice unique silhouettes" and "Good diversity" and buzzwords like that.
This art is at least good. It's probably best not to yank the thread too hard and drive easily-influenced people somewhere even worse, just because we've recognized their influence and don't approve of it.

>>1024
>>1315
Honestly I sort of have to agree with Bones for once, though I feel it's not just the hair that looks a little odd, but the whole color palette.
You have these bright, saturated colors like Saffron's hair and purple shirt, as well as the green dude's hair, but the rest of the palette is basically pastels. Are you trying to go for a bright, cartoonish palette or a soft pastel one? You could probably find a way to make them work if you really tried, but imho these colors aren't really working.
I know you don't color your comic, but this has been bothering me about the art for the whole chapter.
I tried playing around with Saffron's color scheme a little bit, I'm not going to say these are any better but I think at the least, you could desaturate her hair a bit.

>>1332
i like brownskinned redheads, but I find that look works best on someone feisty.. a genie, a gerudo, a weird androgynous skinny kid.. something like that. not a big mannish warrior woman. Those can be brownskinned with white or light lavender hair, sure, or brown with black hair like Lana Kane..
THAT SAID, pic related. But you know, I didn't remember her with red hair. in fact i looked her up specifically thinking she didn't have it.
in retrospect though her personality is stoic and gerudoesque.

>>1332
Damn this looks nice. Saffron your artist that you paid for these pages sucks

Where's the Artborn update?
It's friday already, hurry up!

>>1335
>my comic is 4-5 days late.
ughh

>>1292
Thanks, man. Maybe someday, but right now I'm still trying to learn how to draw.

>>1337
I can't tell if this is a meme or if you are for real, because jokes aside, this is a terrible study