/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11408648
If I had to guess, I'd say it's to cut back on crime. Like robberies and stuff.

>>11408648
Keeps the food fresher.

>>11408648
This is what happens when we're told that money is everything and people in bad circumstances want to have their share too.

its to stop drug addicts from stealing the $200 in the register so they can buy more meth or whatever.

>>11408648
>local eatery
sure looks like kfc

>>11408648
It's a sneeze guard.
You might think it's silly, but you have had to have noticed how many people have sniffy noses in your neighborhood.

>>11408648
Epic /pol/ posting friend. Based ignorance trolling. I swear to god is there a /pol/ raid going on right now this is like the 8th thread of your nonsense.

>>11408648
Keeps the customer safe from potential hot oil splatters

>>11408671
I was thinking popeyes.

>>11408706
based /pol/ workin this simp

>>11408706
You right whitie jus tryin to keep bruthas apart

>>11408712
Ahhh I could see that

Either way though

>>11408664

shoot, I thought it was just a sneeze guard like those at those salad bars

touche

>>11408664
>Their share
Because why work a job? Be lazy and rob.

>>11408712
nah it's kfc, i can see the colonels head in the menu.

>>11408792
I meant more of seeing on t.v rich people indulging in their material wealth and all throughout life basically being raised with the mentality that money is everything. Then when someone finds themselves in bad circumstances some snap and feel the need to do whatever it takes to have their share of the "fun" that material wealth brings.

>>11408706
>glass shielding to deter feral niggers from attacking and robbing the workers is just /pol/ trolling

>>11408792
Not saying your sentiment is wrong, just that things aren't as simple

https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/%3famp=1

>>11408671
>>11408803
yea it is kfc. that chocolate cake looked familiar and the bucket gave it away

>>11408648
it's bullet prof glass you fucking retards

>>11408805
Still not their share. Basic socialization teaches this unless you have no proper socialization and values, or are developmentally deficient. Not their fair share when the system bends over backwards to offer ways out of poverty through education and employment.

>>11408809
While upward mobility has increased massively and buying power of a dollar has never been stronger. Inflation and earnings are one side, but what it buys is different. Low income, high crime areas are that way because the cultural norms they pass down through their subculture make the CHOICE to be a robbing, murdering faggot easier for them to make with a smile.

>>11408839
But why? Who pays for food with bullets?

>>11408844
>upward mobility has increased massively
What? Were are you getting that?

I agree there are cultural norms at play but to think the lack of economic mobility is due solely to culture and not the economic environment is just ignorant(not that I'm saying you are)

>>11408844
>Still not their share. Basic socialization teaches this unless you have no proper socialization and values, or are developmentally deficient. Not their fair share when the system bends over backwards to offer ways out of poverty through education and employment.
I'm not justifying the actions of a thief. Just speculating the situation as a whole.

If y'all remove victimless "crimes" like undocumented shopping and possession of harmless plants then black neighborhoods statistically ain't any more dangerous than wh*te neighborhoods

>>11408889
>undocumented shopping
That's called stealing and it's not victimless, dumb nigger.

>>11408882
You're missing the point of both the current conversations if you think that's relevant.

Whichever way, current thought is that nurture has roughly a 4x effect on intelligence than nature

>>11408889
I dunno, that plant looked at me pretty angrily while it reached flr it's firearm.

>>11408792
>Be lazy and rob.

Belazy and Robb we're a comedy duo from Bellefountaine, Ohio, who, during the glorious days of Vaudeville, were famous for their "She's Got a Duck Up Where?" and "Boy, Does She Love a Good Duck, What?" routines. A great favorite of hoboes, sadly Belazy and Robb took their act to Alaska and were never heard from again. Rumor has it they were robbed and murdered by hoboes.

>>11408889
I think what makes a neighborhood dangerous is dangerous people living in it. in my experience dangerous people are not classified by skin color, but by how that individual was raised and brought up.

>>11408894
I think he meant to say there is no direct conflict between one person and the other when shoplifting or possession of cannabis, compared to holding someone up at gunpoint and threatening to shoot them if they don't comply with your demands.

>>11408876
nice to see a well spoken anon

>>11408900
Based

>>11408648
>What purpose does this serve?
It makes sure that the employer does not have a statistical probable workman's comp claim because the person running the register gets assaulted with a baseball bat over the $42 inside of it. It is simply more economical to protect your employees then to allow them to be shot and left for dead. I wish they protected our children in schools like this place protects their fried chicken.

>>11408706
>I swear to god is there a /pol/ raid going on right
Funny you said that....I came to 4chan tonight looking to go to /pol/ and a photo on the front page drew me into /ck/. In 8 years of posting on 4 chan, I never have been here once, and I am a very very fat person trapped in a skinny body...so this is just magical for me. I figured from reading about a dozen posts that this board was just an extension of /pol/. Every other post might as well be a /pol/ock. You sound like one of the paranoid conspiracy theorists we have. Perhaps we are just shareblue or the JIDF here to "Correct the record".

>>11408895
>Whichever way, current thought is that nurture has roughly a 4x effect on intelligence than nature
They just make stuff up to feel better about themselves. You can teach someone manners and respect, but you certainly cannot teach them to be intelligent. It is like 2 different sized cups...once they are full, you can't get any more into them. Some people are kids sized, while others are super sized.

>>11408876
Many people and cultures throughout history have had periods of extreme poverty, economic disaster, and even slavery without exhibiting the same behavior that niggers do. Economics are not, and never have been, an excuse for shitty culture and behavior that persists for generations.

>>11408957
>you certainly cannot teach them to be intelligent.
It's actually not about teaching someone necessarily but providing nourishment(in the literal sense) and stimulation in the formative years

>>11408900

>>11408882
All dogs are stupid compared to humans, and the various dog breeds are due to human selection and inbreeding anyhow.

>>11408974
>It's actually not about teaching someone necessarily but providing nourishment(in the literal sense) and stimulation in the formative years
I certainly believe in providing a loving home for children, but respectfully disagree with you when it comes to cognitive ability. We are not all created equal, and you cannot love someone into being intelligent. There are many factors outside of "nurture" that are not openly studied, and totally misunderstood...mostly by western science where it is taboo to even consider such a thing is possible. Everyone has a dumb-as-fuck uncle or cousin who is a nice person with good manners. No amount of nurture and love got him doing more then working at a auto parts store, and if he wasn't so damn nice, he would have been shitcanned years ago....imagine how he would act if the external stimuli was negative. The fruit never falls far from the tree, and no amount of nurture can fix nature (gods) decision to make someone borderline retarded.

>>11408993
I never said that it totally depends on "loving someone". In fact I said nature had an impact. What I said is that depriving individuals of nutrition to help the brain grow or the stimulation to lead to the brain development have very strong correlations to intellectual ability.

i.e. nature plays a role, but while the evidence is correlative in nature, it strongly suggests proper brain development has a larger impact than nature.

>>11409007
>blacks have been around for thousands of years
>we still need to hold their hands and nurture them
Thats a hard pass from me

>>11409007
Are you familiar with the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study?

>>11408889
Roughly 50% of violent crime being committed by 13% of the population tells me that if I have a chance to love around blacks or literally anyone else I'll takey chances with the Hispanics or Asians

Official FBI crime stats btw

>>11408963
I hate to be that person, but please show me information that shows these historical periods did not lead towards increased crime levels(or "similar behavior").

That info is pretty hard to come by but we can look at societies that have drastic levels of economic inequality and we see equally drastic levels of crime, or "behavior" as you describe it.

See China, Brazil, India, Russia vs. pretty much all of western Europe.

>>11408906
>Store is consistently a target for shoplifting by nogs
>He buys candy bars for 75 cents and sells them for a dollar
>Every time someone steals a candy bar he has to sell 3 candy bars to get his money back
>Eventually he has to buy security cameras and glass and keep the candy bars behind the counter
>Now candy bars cost $1.25
Don't make excuses for criminals

>>11409059
>nogs
Everybody shoplifts. I've done it before, I've had hispanic friends that did it, african american, asian. Crime isn't tied down by a persons skin color, it's just who that person is as an individual
>inb4 leftie/democrat/soiboy/boomer

>>11409017
I'm not saying how we need to alleviate it at all really. I think there is a large cultural impact here in the US unfortunately. I am saying attributing these differences to purely cultural reasons is just incorrect.

>>11409026
I'm not actually, but it's pretty interesting.
I argue the naive interpretation is that the obvious conclusion here where as we should consider the emotional impact of adoption, sample size of parents in various groups that continue communication with the researches, etc...

Even so, this is totally within what I expect. Again, there are genetic effects and I bet most kids that ended up being data points were not malnourished/neglected

>>11409007
>All blacks have bad nutrition in childhood
Only way to explain the 10 point IQ gap right?

>>11409067
The point is that shoplifting is not a victimless crime ya dunce

>>11408805
Most thieves aren't just people who find themselves in bad circumstances with the only way for them to survive is stealing. You're average guy with 2 mortgages and a family he can't support isn't the person committing these acts.

>>11408957

pretty much this

Insurance, and don't forget your cameras

>>11409072
>"All blacks have bad nutrition in childhood"

Where did I say that?
In fact I said "In fact I said nature had an impact"(yeah I'm repeating that)

don't pigeonhole me into some argument that I clearly didn't make

Race has no effect on our lives but its all white peoples fault we have shit lives

>>11409082
How do you explain a 10 point IQ gap unless their is some massive epidemic of malnutrition specific only to american blacks? Perhaps genetics play a role.

That was the point of the dog cartoon. Humans had 40,000 years isolated on their own continents to form very clearly defined genetic groups that some would even say make us sub-species or breeds. If genetics influence intelligence as well as other more obvious things such as skin color and hair color then what explains such drastic differences in IQ? Is it really "the system" or is that just a bad excuse so that we can all remain as politically correct as possible to avoid acknowledging our differences?

>>11409099
I literally said genetics play a role.
My argument is that nature has a bigger role.

Stop interpreting only what you want to.

>>11409071
>I argue the naive interpretation is that the obvious conclusion here where as we should consider the emotional impact of adoption

I think it is just part of a larger picture involving diverging evolutionary paths, and literal genetic caps on intelligence and forethought. Neanderthal DNA is real, and is present in 2-3% in Caucasians, but totally non-existent in sub Saharan populations.

Science does not lie. 2 different types of giant apes grew and changed in their homelands. One type was surrounded by food, and beasts that would eat you...the other had to pre-plan meals based on seasons. I am not saying that blacks are not human, but that they most certainly a different branch of humanity. There is enough of a physical difference in bone structure to warrant this type of study...but too many English speaking scientists won't touch this one. Why won't they touch it? Because the instant you bring up physical differences people start pointing fingers and making the claim that you are just "trying to prove we are stupid". They don't grasp that these scientists only want to understand the mystery of life....and perhaps the fear is that the findings will open the door to answers they never wanted publicized.

Outliers exist in all studies, but the average is what is the focus point. Sub Saharan people are not stupid, but they certainly lack certain cognitive abilities overall.

You lads are beating around the bush but I'm just gonna come right out and say it: FUCK NIGGERS!

>>11409107
I wish I had a higher quality version of that graphic also. I have this information as well.

>>11408900
this is a good post

>>11409105
If nurture is more important then I would love to hear you explain why blacks have consistently the lowest IQ of all American races even when socioeconomic controls are used. Why does the poor black child have a lower score then all the other poor children? And why does the rich black child have a lower IQ score then all the other well off children?

>>11409109
>You lads are beating around the bush
I came to /ck/ tonight to laugh about a sardine post in another thread. I did not come here to drop the normal red-pills that we are accustomed to tossing all about. Having an intelligent conversation however is rare in /pol/ anymore. newfags ruined that board.

>>11409076
I know what you meant. What I was saying, was there's a difference in the shock a person faces when you shoplift from their store while they don't know, versus pointing a gun at their face and threatening them if they don't comply with your demands.

>>11409077
I know. Some people are born into bad circumstances, and are born into very rough neighborhoods where unless they're born into a family who cares to guide them down the right path morally and such the odds of them turning towards crime and gang activity to survive is pretty high. If you've ever had the chance to know someone personally that fell to that path, you'd see that a lot of them are very materialistic and would go through great means attaining a large sum of wealth. They have no problem manufacturing and selling hard drugs to people, knowing full well what they're doing to them.

>>11409121
>"I literally said genetics play a role."

I will not respond to you anymore.

>>11409123
>the odds of them turning towards crime and gang activity to survive is pretty high
Knowing the difference between right and wrong is human nature. Doing wrong intentional is evil. There is no way about it. There is no amount of buzzwords or explanation that justifies poor behavior. That is an individual choice. Humans know the difference between right and wrong. Animals act on impulse. Koko gorilla was more human than most humans.

>>11409107
>"Outliers exist in all studies, but the average is what is the focus point."

just going to point out that it's funny you say that however all of the individual points in the infographic has single references (not that I think those studies are invalid)

It may be an example of evolutionary divergence but I wouldn't be so quick to attribute it to Neanderthal DNA. More likely than not its just the evolutionary stresses on the actual humans than the ancestors.

>>11408957
>but you certainly cannot teach them to be intelligent
This is literally what teaching does: Make people more intelligent. Did you just not go to school or something?

There's no such thing as race but I'm glad y'all mayonnaise eaters is going extinct

>>11409144
You're out of your league here bud

>>11409133
I agree with you on that. I'm just saying, if the parents or guardians care enough for the individual to try and be a part of their life and morally guide them the right way, odds are there's a less chance that they'd turn to crime. But even with this in mind, yes it all boils down to that individual and what they choose to do with their life.

>>11409149
I know many cultures that utilize mayonnaise in their cuisine. You're talking about a large sum of the population here anon.

>>11409152
If only sex didn't offer instant gratification and immense pleasure low IQ shits wouldn't breed like rabbits

>>11409162
we're all animals huh

>>11409137
>More likely than not its just the evolutionary stresses on the actual humans than the ancestors.
40-60k years is a long time to create cognitive abilities that are focused based on environment. "My people" had to contend with external forces that were out of their control...like seasons. The smart ones planned months and years ahead, and the dumb ones were culled by harsh winters. Meanwhile in Africa, they were surrounded by food and the occasional large animal attack. The "warrior gene" is something that is only now being studied, and this could be attributed to the dumb being culled by lack of proper flight or fight response.

>>11409149
>There's no such thing as race
Pic related.

>>11408806
Everyone knows that businesses install that glass because they are just racist.

>>11409173
Only some of us can look at our situation and put on a condom if we cant raise a kid

>>11409175
it is a long time, yet you're assuming this ~2% of intelligence is related to intelligence and not something stupid like lactose production or whatever.

Let me say this: In the time as a human species, we see incredible differentiation between subspecies(height, skin color, metabolic patterns...), why wouldn't you expect intelligence genes to be part of that.

Either way, it doesn't really matter for our discussion. A majority of your post actually backs up my argument that these differences probably resulted in the long timespan AFTER humans spread out. Neanderthal DNA integration occurred where again?

In short this stuff is pretty interesting to think about but if we feel some sense of superiority because of it, we may need to check ourselves.

>>11409197
~2% of intelligence...
of Neanderthal DNA

sorry I'm pretty tired.

>>11409197
>In short this stuff is pretty interesting to think about but if we feel some sense of superiority because of it, we may need to check ourselves.
The Neanderthal DNA is only correlating proof that we evolved separate. Neanderthals existed as a separate species 200k+ years ago. It is a correlation, not the cause. Some studies say that they ceased to exist about 40k years ago.

>>11409197
>In short this stuff is pretty interesting to think about but if we feel some sense of superiority because of it, we may need to check ourselves.

Being realistic, and being superior are side effects of evolution. Nature does not believe in equality, and the strong always survive. The earth is getting "smaller" as man now has the ability to go anywhere in the world, and there is already a civilization present. Places that some people would never have survived even 500 years ago is now a place where they can procreate and persevere. A side effect of this is that people who shouldn't have survived due to low intelligence are passing this onto their progeny. As has been said many times, you cannot love a less intelligent human into being intelligent. It is just not humanly possible. Lots of correlating evidence points to an average intelligence deficiency in all the subspecies of human that has come out of Africa. My opinion is that nature has a HUGE impact on this trait, but there is no way possible to replace 40-60k years of divergent evolution through simple social programs and hugs not drugs.

Also, I feel that this conversation has no place in the cooking board. Sorry to go so off topic. It has been refreshing to have an intelligent conversation however. I must return to shitposting on my normal /vr/ forums.

>>11408806
>You Want it to be One Way, But It's the Other Way

>>11409261
That's really more of a coincidence than a correlation, to be a semantic nazi

I said/meant 'Feeling realistic'.

One may have a population average of 10 IQ point advantage(although i'm still unconvinced), but if an individual does nothing with it, does it matter? We really shouldn't feel superior because of an innate advantage but that doesn't mean we can't feel proud of achievements that advantage may allow. That last point, the one you quoted, was just a comment about our morality rather than any scientific point.


this has been a refreshing conversation

>pretending to be stupid for a niggerniggernigger thread
Why /ck/?

>>11408706
Obsessed, obese and rent free

>>11408648
Wow that is so fucking degrading. I really feel sorry for niggers sometimes.

>>11409261
anon, you made a valiant attempt, but you're never going to convince npcs that there are verifiable differences between the races.

>>11408648
I bet that’s either Chicago or Detroit?

>>11408658
Wrong it's because the store is in a highly infectious area and they just want to keep contamination from spreading from the customers to the staff then to the food and back to other customers. It is absolutely a health concern and has nothing to do with elevated crime rates in poor urban black neighborhoods. Thinking such a thing is racist, transphobic, Islamaphobic, and makes you a bad person.

>>11408648
That's called "AUTHENTICITY"

>>11410221
Or L.A., NYC, Miami.....anti-nigger devices are everywhere niggers congregate, anon.

just a well made sneeze guard

>>11410221
It’s Detroit.

>>11409791
>implying the barrier isn't there solely because niggers can't stop committing violent crime

i feel sorry for the rest of us; being around niggers is so fucking degrading.

>>11409067
>I only hang out with worthless gutter trash like myself therefore everyone else must be the same piece of shit I am
Wew

>>11408900
Now you know

>>11410213
Race is arbitrary and defined however we want it. A nationality, red headed people or dark or light skin it all could be considered a race or not. The whole discussion is stupid but some people took offence and I dont give a shit enough to dig in my heels. Why do you care?

>>11409067
You're right skin color doesn't matter, you've proved anyone can be a nigger. Stop stealing, Tyrone.

>>11410383
>I dont give a shit enough to dig in my heels
and yet, you continue to respond.
i carry on because i care about my tribe.

>>11410221
Philadelphia is like that too.

>>11410410
That was my first post in this thread. My question is why do you insist on them being a different race? By its definition you can't prove or disprove you are correct. It's an arbitrary term. I get that you think people of African American descent are stupid or violent or whatever. Just dont get the race thing. Also not saying I agree with you

>>11410429
>why do you insist on them being a different race?
Ask God. Or genetics. Whichever you believe in.

>>11410435
Heh that doesn't answer the question at all. Then again I dont really care anymore than a passing interest. You do you

>>11410444
>I don't really care but I'm going to keep posting "You're wrong" without any real argument
>Nothing personal kid

>>11409144
blacks have a average iq of 85, they are mentally retarded.

>>11410221
Reminded me of Houston.

>>11410402
>skin color doesn't matter
This stupid meme.

EVERY non-white in the U.S. has demonstrated time and again that skin color DOES matter. No matter how much whites kiss non-white ass, they STILL WANT THEIR OWN NATIONS.

Whites just need to accept the fact that they've been tricked and are being punked by the non-white world and traitorous (((whites))) hidden in their society, and they need to just deport non-whites that don't have at least 2 generations in the nation, and any other non-white that doesn't accept being a minority in a WHITE NATION.

>>11408895

From Wikipedia:

>The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73%[5] with some more-recent estimates as high as 80%[6] and 86%.[7] Genome-wide association studies have identified inherited genome sequence differences that account for 20% of the 50% of the genetic variation that contributes to heritability.[8] IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood. This phenomenon is known as the Wilson Effect.[9] Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores;[10] however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.[11][12]

>>11410427
So is every other black ghetto in the U.S., what's your point?

>>11408903

13% of the population contributing over 70% of all violent crime doesn't strike you as odd?

>>11410521
>>11410527
Please refrain from the anime posting. Thank you.

>>11408792
Lad, robbing is still a job. Just like being a career bennie claimant.

>>11410535
Shitbags like you are why people left your stupid inbred island.

>>11410527
These ghetto neighborhoods are ghetto for a reason. They were intentionally built to keep minorities in low positions so they couldn't reach a level of success to influence or impact their surroundings. Also hard drugs where intentionally pushed into these ghetto neighborhoods to keep them down. So yes it is odd, but for other reasons. There are enough funds going around this earth for everyone to live a comfortable life, but greed prevents this from happening. Don't you find this even more odd?

>>11410546
lol

>>11410529

>wah anime

You do not belong here.
You have never belonged here.
You will never belong here.
You have to go back.

>>11410554
>says the tripfag

>>11410546

>There are enough funds going around this earth for everyone to live a comfortable life, but greed prevents this from happening. Don't you find this even more odd?

No, because I've studied evolutionary psychology.

>>11410555

>tripfag

You, uh, wanna take another run at that, champ?

>>11410556
You can study anything you want, that doesn't change the fact that greed is the real enemy, and the source for most suffering on this earth.

>>11410556
>>11410554
>tfw agreeing with a namefag
i want to die

>>11410549
Read up on Gary Webb

http://time.com/3482909/this-is-the-real-story-behind-kill-the-messenger/

>>11408648
>What purpose does this serve?

Really? Are 'mericans this dumb & ignorant to why their shit gets fucked up all the time?

>>11408839
>bullet prof glass
Clearly plastic

Fuck niggers.

>>11410610
based

Why do you all care so much about ghettos. Just don't live there lmao

>>11410570

>greed is the real enemy
>fact

No, that is highly subjective, being entirely predicated upon one's values and goals.

>>11410629
I haven't moved in over 30 years. The suburb used to be friendly, everyone would say a hello as they passed each other, the sun would shine bright, and the only crime was from a couple meth heads and teenagers shoplifting.

Then one day everything changed. The only apartment complex in the area started to house section 8. The niggers moved in, the rich white people left. In about 5-10 years, they completely changed the area while being a tiny minority. groups of 30+ nigger kids would be out, and they would terrorize anyone they passed. they started robbing everywhere, houses, stores, people on the street. then the murders sky rocketed, out of no where there would be firearm homicides every other month. The mexican kids started to hang out in groups to avoid being harassed by these packs of niggers. White kids started to join to, wanting to solely fight these niggers by finding them in the area. They became a gang, this gang started to retaliate against the niggers to the point where the niggers started a gang and retaliated. As more apartments started to house section 8 income, the whole neighborhood went to shit. Stores started putting in glass windows. Now I sit and watch at least 50 niggers pour into my work everyday for their McD's and they're the most annoying customers.

>>11410665
>haven't moved in over 30 years
>my work
>McD's

Niggers aren't why you're a failure in life anon.

>>11410661
Let me rephrase that, greed is the source of most suffering on this earth.

>>11410685
Did I ever blame niggers for my life? You might be self-projecting there. I mean how many McD's do you own and operate? Yeah, thought so faggot, you'd think a faggot that lurks on here would appreciate the fast food industry.

The guy who owns McD's must be a real loser, like the other 300,000 people that run the help business. Such poor fags, right? lmfaorofl

>>11410701

>>11408706
Cringe
>>11408957
Based and redpilled

>>11410709

>>11408664
>People in bad circumstances
Reminder that rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites.

>>11410720
You fail to the see the real issue here. Your need to always point the finger at someone else to justify your own personal views that are rooted from hatred.

>>11408900
is this real

>>11408648
You guys are so awful. That’s actually the boy in the bubble-and his first job. It maintains a healthy atmosphere
Hooray for gainful employment

>>11408664
Money is the only thing in life that matters when you graduate middleschool you will learn that

>>11408900
lmao

>>11410726
I'm not the anon you were addressing. However these "personal views" are not rooted from hatred, dude.

They are rooted from facts and reality. A majority of black people are niggers. And niggers are fucking weird, doesn't matter where they live. They love crime, like its bred into them.

>>11410692

Much better. I would, however, argue that the distal cause is human nature, which is basically just animal nature with a few optimizations to the evolutionary niche you occupy and tweaks to the UI. If accurate, this would make greed merely a pathological mechanism, with Hugh Manatee itself being the disease.

>>11410692
Greed created every single medicine. greed creates all the food. Greed created your phone and computer. greed created 4chan.

>>11410778
>like its bred into them.
It's pushed onto them everywhere they go. Ghettos where intentionally created to keep minorities down and addicted to drugs. Then you go higher up and see famous african american musicians pushing the idea that you need to be a certain way to be accepted, pushing the idea of being mean, not caring for anyone other than yourself and that drugs are good. So no, a persons skin color has nothing to do with who they turn out to be. It is the world around them that shapes and molds them.

>>11410803
Jews lived in ghettos they have never committed crimes

>>11410802

Thank you for opening the can of worms even I didn't want to deal with.

>>11410807

Oh boy, here we go...

>>11410796
>argue that the distal cause is human nature
Not true at all, because not everyone is driven by greed. It's an idea that certain people enforce and push if you want to be accepted by certain people, just like racism and hate. You think your average human who just wants to live their lives and have a family and all that stuff are driven by greed and an unusual desire for materialism and power? It's the ones trying to control others that enforce and live by greed, hate and all other forms of human corruption.

>>11410802
That is because it is the way society has been constructed. It doesn't have to be that way, but it is because it benefits the ones who try to enforce their power over others. Greed only drove these things into existence because, again it is how this society has been constructed.

>>11410807

>Attempting to overthrow the government and replace it with Communism isn't a crime when the punishment for it is plastered in every history textbook for the next ninety years

>>11410831

>Thinks society was built, rather than a function of how people function on larger scale

>>11410807
People commit crimes. Everything else that is attached to that human did not.

>>11410831
It does have to be that way. This year go grow 10 corn plants tend and care for them all year and then give them away for nothing

>>11410835
Constructed, pushed intentionally towards a certain path to enforce an agenda and control over people who don't know any better.

>>11410840
I wouldn't mind doing that. I'm sure other people wouldn't mind sharing their resources or knowledge too, if everyone was in on it and had the same mentality. Don't you see, people function the way they do because it has been presented them that way since birth? A newborn baby is an untouched piece of clay. It is the world around them that shapes and forms them into who they are.

>>11410842
>>11410850

Oh Jesus, you're one of those tabula rasa people. No wonder you come across as an idealist.

>>11410850
So you are going to break your back in the hot sun everyday for nothing? While other people sit around and eat your hardwork

>>11408839
just barely barely strong enough to stop the penetrating power of a sneeze

>>11410859
Sure. If society was constructed in a way that everyone played a role and willingly shared what they had to offer, why not? There are people out there that are extremely passionate about agriculture and farming, and do it because they love it, not because of the money the get from it. Same goes for nearly any other profession that helps the world go round.

>>11410865
The only people that I see who would want to oppose such a society are those who feel the need to have more than others , be better than others or have power and control over others.

>>11410803
Factually wrong. Skin color has everything to do with it, because it shows they're of a different sub-species from their fellow man. You're not seriously one of these people that think race doesn't exist do you? Or that differences between humans in genetics has different effects on the human, such as the skull shape and brain sizes are comparable, because they're so different between the sub-species of human. Why did "white" people choose to spread their culture, while other people in their cultures showed they were not interested in moving forwards. Even the richest man in the world, who gave away so much gold that he destabilized the Islamic economy was not able to make a civilization that flowered and grew for more than 200 years, nor would the Mali empire even exist if not for outside influence.
Now, to suggest that its American black culture that is making them like this. Its not. Africans are like this naturally in every part of the world. There is a reason most nations HATE blacks. They bring crime and chaos wherever they go.
One of the biggest factors is the parents are terrible at raising children. They treat children like animals. Black people I know, whos parents died when they were young, are successful, respectful people. They made a killing in their careers, and never let racism whether it be from whites, or their own race keep them down.
Back in segregation, white towns were supposedly much safer than black towns. With black people killing each other rather than risk being lynched in the white part. Worse story I heard is when my friend went with his buddies to a small hotel in the black side (he is black of course) to get some food around midnight. The lady who ran the joint made them some fried chicken, and when she served them up, a nigger from a couple tables over got up out of his seat away from his friends, walked over to my friend's table where him and his buddies where just getting a piece, loudly says...

>>11408648
I dont see anything
>clear partition.

>>11410873
"I want sum chicken" grabs the chicken off the table and raises his jacket to show his revolver tucked into his waistline. My buddy and his friends didn't want to die, or start shit, so they got up and left. Apparently this type of shit happens all the time, because a lot of black people love to look for trouble.

Worst thing I've heard about the white side is when they lynched a nigger for looking at a white girl.

>>11410850

>A newborn baby is an untouched piece of clay. It is the world around them that shapes and forms them into who they are.

Every single item of empirical evidence I've ever encountered says otherwise, says that humans are merely animals with significant but ultimately finite adaptive capacity.

>>11410865
You forget that shitty jobs exist. Whos going to fix your plumbing when it breaks and fills your house with shit for free? Who is going to euthanize your dog when it gets sick for free? Whos going to put baby chickens alive into a grinder to make tendies for free? Whos going to cut down the amazon to make MDMA for free?

>>11410873
Race doesn't exist, neither do countries. Just invisible lines separating people. Invisible lines made for the sole reason of having control over an earth they don't even own.

>One of the biggest factors is the parents are terrible at raising children. They treat children like animals. Black people I know, whos parents died when they were young, are successful, respectful people. They made a killing in their careers, and never let racism whether it be from whites, or their own race keep them down.

So you admit that an african american can still have enough intelligence to be successful and a respectful person without letting factors outside of their control change them. This alone proves my point, that a persons skin color has nothing to do with who they are but more so how they were raised.

>>11410251
Too much bait. You'll get them next time.

>>11408648
You know damn well what purpose it serves, and I can't believe /ck/ fell for such an obvious /pol/ thread.

>>11410889
There are people who are passionate for plumbing, people who absolutely love animals and who infact care about the life of animals more than humans. Most people consume drugs because they can't cope with life how it is. They're depressed or feel an emptiness inside of them so they seek chemicals to enhance their life. Why do you think these people are depressed and feel empty? For some it may be a chemical imbalance, but for other it could be the fact that they don't like how things are run, they see the corruption that is founded on how this society operates, and they seek an escape.

>>11410879
Are you a parent? Have you ever seen a human grow from infant to adult? Rather than reading someone elses perpsective or idea on the situation, have you yourself seen it with your own eyes?

>>11410902
ck didn't fall for it its just pol shitting up low traffic boards with little to no moderation

>>11410831

I encourage you to read the Middleton studies, along with Dawkins' excellent primer The Selfish Gene. Extra credit: The Extended Phenotype, also by Dawkins, and The Moral Animal by Wright.

>>11410904
Enough passionate people to supply 7 billion? I seriously doubt that

>>11410909
If those 7 billion all agreed to it, if 5 billion, even 1 agreed, it would work. But it doesn't because there are greedy selfish people who try and control this earth and enforce their control over others.

>>11410896
Ok. and your skin color is one of many things that has an effect on how you interact with society, so thus skin color effects how you're raised.

Just like how a persons country is part of that stimuli.

To deny race, sub-species, of any differentiation between the different peoples of Earth is delusional.

I'm already tired of your pseudo enlightenment shit, countries DO exist, race DOES exist, these invisible lines are not invisible.

>>11410923
And when someone disagrees with you are you going to send soldiers to make them work?

>>11410904

>Are you a parent? Have you ever seen a human grow from infant to adult?

No and yes, respectively.

>Rather than reading someone elses perpsective or idea on the situation, have you yourself seen it with your own eyes?

Reading exists in order to expand our knowledge beyond the bounds of our own tiny experience; scientific research exists for similar reasons. To rely solely or even primarily upon one's own experience at the expense of these things is to voluntarily impoverish one's own intellect and hobble his ability to make sense of the world and his place within it.

>>11410923
Im a gold miner and you are a corn farmer. Is the Lamborghini maker going to give me a lambo or you?

>>11410929
>Ok. and your skin color is one of many things that has an effect on how you interact with society, so thus skin color effects how you're raised.
Yes but why is that so? Racism or treating someone differently due to their skin color is something someone learns.

I understand people are genetically different, but I think even then if raised properly, in the right care and growing conditions could be just as good as any other person from a different genetic makeup. There are intelligent (white/color)people, and mentally handicapped (white/color) people

>>11410934
No, if everyone had something to do according to what they enjoy, I doubt people would wake up not looking forward to start their day.

>>11410935
I agree that reading expands ones thoughts and ideas on a subject, but in my experience, personal experience far supersedes another persons experience. But sometimes you do need another persons experience to be able to understand and expand what you already know.

>>11410940
The desire for a lambo or luxury for that matter is something that's been ingrained and enforced in society.

>>11410971
So you dont think a guy who wants to make lambos should be allowed to? Thats really fucked up that guys not going to be very happy that he has to make yugos all day

>>11410971

>The desire for a lambo or luxury for that matter is something that's been ingrained and enforced in society.

Signalling theory says otherwise. Sexual selection says otherwise. Society is the result of animal behavior, not the other way around.

>I agree that reading expands ones thoughts and ideas on a subject, but in my experience, personal experience far supersedes another persons experience. But sometimes you do need another persons experience to be able to understand and expand what you already know.

That's reasonable.

>>11410981
Hey if they're happy making cars and providing that service towards others, and there is a demand for it, then why not? My point is, that the only reason lambos are even a thing is a result of the society we live in. If I recall correctly, "purchasing" a lambo doesn't in fact make you the owner of the car, you are just borrowing it and it can be taken from you if they want. Do you think that's fair? Does that desire not stem from selfishness, or pride?

>>11410971

Let's say you have a guy named David, and he lives in your ideal world. David desires, above all things, to be a chef. He has learned at the knee of people who also wanted to cook great meals. His dream is to do this for the rest of his life.

But he sucks at it. Food sticks to pans. Stews are burnt. Tools are ruined. He was born with the hands of a man who should be shot when approaching the kitchen, to spare it the disgrace of being used by him.

In our modern setting, he'd be unable to practice culinary shitshows in exchange for currency and would have to find some other means of making himself useful to society in exchange for currency. If he chooses to spend his money on materials to ruin food in his spare time, then that's a choice he can make at the expense of no one else.

What do you think happens in your ideal world?

>>11410971
So who taught the first person that taught his children? Humans just magically learned racism? It wasn't a result of human nature? People naturally just don't acknowledge differences between themselves, huh?

Some people enjoy murdering, raping, stealing naturally. Some groups of people have a larger minority of these people than other groups.

Lets take the famous Aisha theory as an example. Back in the 400s it was legal to fuck an underage girl. Yet, in no way would a rational father be okay with this. We see examples as far back as 400BC of fathers killing their children's rapist. Yet for some reason, Aisha's father was fine with a 60+ year old man raping his 9 year old daughter. Now because of this, someone who is Islamic is much more likely to think child rape is okay at a young age, and this breeds out the natural anger one would feel knowing their daughter is being raped.

The difference is, blacks in every nation have a larger amount of their minority of violent, stupid, people. To the point where in some parts of Africa it is the norm to be such a violent stupid person, and there is no society besides the occasional mud hut.

>>11410992
>Sexual selection says otherwise
The idea of what is attractive and what isn't is pushed heavily in our media.
Humans are much more than animals with a leg up on intelligence. Society is pushed by people who are much more intelligent and organized than most and seek to push a way of life onto others that benefits only themselves.

>>11411000
>Society is pushed by people who are much more intelligent and organized than most and seek to push a way of life onto others that benefits only themselves.

You have devolved into conspiracy theories and social constructionist rhetoric absolute joke

>>11410971

>Racism or treating someone differently due to their skin color is something someone learns.

If so, it is learned remarkably quickly, with some studies suggesting that such behavior can appear before the subjects are able to crawl.

That's pretty early in the game, wouldn't you agree?

>>11410993
Lambos are for entertainment people will always want the thrill of driving 300mph. Lambos take a huge amount of resources, engineers and scientists to create. Those resources could be used for tractors the engineers to build roads and the scientists could be curing diseases but they build lambos instead because its more fun. With no rewards for work people will just do what they want not what society needs them to do

>>11410997
I think that if a person desires something enough, they'll do whatever it takes to make it happen. So I think if this david truly desired to be a chef in life and nothing more, he'd find a way to make it work one way or another.

>>11410999
Racism was formed through ignorance. Judging a person by external features they had no control over rather than the person as an individual human. As for murder rape and stealing, a lot of these things people do only because the idea that such things are possible where put in their head in the first place. The desire for murder and rape can stem from certain mental illnesses too.

The choice to have sexual relations with an underage person was all due to that society accepting it as a norm.

>>11411015
Well its the media that effects the infants in the womb they overhear the TV shows with white majority casts and are expected to think that is the norm.

its called fetal colonial propaganda.

>>11411000

>Humans are much more than animals with a leg up on intelligence.

No... you're not.

>>11411025
Animals don't jack off to hentai faggot.

>>11411014
So Freemasons are a conspiracy?

>>11411015
Just studies, opinions and theories.

>>11411018
The idea of a lambo even being desired is a result of how our current society operates.

>>11411025
Now we have resorted to personal insults and belittlement. I had a great conversation with you by the way. Thanks.

>>11411020
So... I've broken you. Because your logic just went out the window.

Ignorance? You're blaming ignorance for racism. You're blaming "media" and "society" in countries with no media or society that is filled with murderers who have never even seen a piece of written text. They love to rape and kill because that is human nature. You're a fucking retard, dude.

Consider ending your life soon.

>>11411025
Apes will jackoff to porn I dont know if they have tried hentai though

>>11411030
>So Freemasons are a conspiracy?

Yes you flat earth nut fuck off to /x/

>>11411022

Kek, well played.

>>11411029

HA

>>11411020

>I think that if a person desires something enough, they'll do whatever it takes to make it happen

That's not what I asked. What happens to David when he sucks at being a chef so badly, but wants it more than anything else?

>>11411035
Why are there lodges all around my city?

Why are there some celebrities in high positions who openly admit to being freemasons. Secret societies and fraternities aren't a conspiracy. For the record I don't believe in flat earth theory.

>>11411032
When I speak of media and society I was implying 1st world countries. Those without media or society act in that matter simply because they know no better. Thanks for the discussion by the way, it was a great pleasure to be able to exchange these ideas with you.

>>11411044
>Anecdotes
>Nepotism

There are more clubs and societies than freemasons fucking retard.

>>11411041
>What happens to David when he sucks at being a chef so badly, but wants it more than anything else?
Again, a person who truly desires something will figure out a way to make it work. And even through all that hard work and dedication, even if he can't become some master chef, he would've still learned enough to be able to provide a service towards others. Cooking is a skill that can be easily learned, it's not some hidden secret how to bake a bread or fry an egg.

>>11411030
You don't wanna go fast? You don't want to live in a house? You don't want electricity. You don't want medicine? You don't want tuna? You don't want green apples? None of those things are needed

>>11411044
So you agree, that race exist, that countries exist, and that your race and nationality is dependent on how you're raised, and thus niggers are fucking cancer on society because the black race is fucking stupid compared to the other races.

>>11411050
I know, but I just mentioned freemasons because they tend to be the one most people know and acknowledge. Thanks for admitting that it's not just some conspiracy though.

>>11411030

>Now we have resorted to personal insults and belittlement. I had a great conversation with you by the way. Thanks.

That was not intended to be an insult. I do not view myself as being anything more than an animal, either.

I've enjoyed talking to you as well, Anon -- so much so, in fact, that I'm behind schedule because of it.

I hope you'll give those works I mentioned earlier a shot. I believe you would benefit greatly from them.

>>11411052

Fair enough.

Let's make it a doctor, instead. What happens when David wants to be a doctor and sucks at that? Lives are on the line, not just kitchen abominations.

>>11411058
>Thanks for admitting that it's not just some conspiracy though.

I made no such concession, you seem to be hallucinating 4chan posted along with your freemason delusions, seek help.

or fuck off to containment board /x/

>>11411030
Im a convicted rapist can I get a job taking care of kids at a daycare?

>>11411063

Inb4 r*ddit spacing, I'm phoneposting from the crapper.

>>11411057
I believe there are people who are created differently in terms of genetics, but I don't think these things have any real impact on the potential of that individual.

>and that your race and nationality is dependent on how you're raised

I never said that. The blind lead the blind. If you show someone that what they're doing towards another is wrong they'll have more of an inclination to see things differently. Also, just as some people are born with the desire to kill and rape, so are others born with proper morals that help guide them into being a good person inside.

>>11411055
no.just need protection from natures rain and heat.i could easily live without electricity or technology. most medicines are just placebos, and a proper nutritious diet easily counteracts most common illnesses. There are people passionate enough to do these things for free though. Food is a greater necessity than a flashy sports car.

>>11411083
>Food is a greater necessity than a flashy sports car.

In your society people cant do what they want

>>11411066
People don't just enter a hospital, throw on a coat and learn their way to become a doctor. It takes many years to be able to get to that point. Only someone who is truly passionate with being a doctor will endure those years to be able to practice something they enjoy.

>>11411071
I think if raised right, you wouldn't have been a rapist in the first place.

>>11411088
I never said that, and as posted above already clearly stated that if someone loves making sports cars, and if there's a demand for them then sure why not. But I highly doubt such a demand would exist in such a society. Sports cars are marketed only to a certain class of people. It is a form of luxury rather than necessity. So to compare them in the same category as food and housing is absurd.

>>11410907
Not that guy but I did read the selfish gene. The point was that things that most people consider selfless end up being selfish but that doesn't mean those acts dont exist. We have evolved a reward system for doing "selfless" acts. That's it.

>>11410726
>You fail to the see the real issue
You mean whites not demanding blacks be shipped back to Africa where they belong wholesale after the civil war?

Agree.

>>11411099
Why would there need to be a demand for lambos? I want to make them I should be able to use those resources to build them my passion for fast cars is more important than your need for food or housing. The miners leather workers and electronic makers must give me the resources to build them. Unless you plan on stopping me

>>11411083
Okay. Now why does the black race have a predominately higher percentage of people who love to kill, rape, and steal regardless of what nation they reside in?

Compared to say...

Why do Asians make up the lowest amount of crime (in America at least).

Why did White people for a long time hold control over most governments on Earth?

Why were bankers usually jews until the last century?

>>11411108
Why would I wish to stop you from something you want to do? If you have the resources to build a lambo for your own enjoyment, who am I to try and take that away from you? There are people who can make the most out of their lives with very little, and find great joy from it.

>>11411107
Fuck off with Democrat ideas like that

>>11409067
why do libcucks not understand statistics and averages?

>>11411117
>Okay. Now why does the black race have a predominately higher percentage of people who love to kill, rape, and steal regardless of what nation they reside in?
I believe I already answered this already

Asians tend to be brought up strictly with strong morals.

I can only assume that the high rate of jewish bankers may be something that was passed down from parent to child, similar to a butcher shop owner passing it down to their children, or a blacksmith passing down their skills and knowledge to their children.

>>11411119
Interesting so if I was to get all the materials needed to build my cars from the people to collect them I can build as many lambos as i want? Even if those materials are needed to build medical equipment or fire trucks?

>>11411135
Well if you are getting the materials needed to build your cars, then you must be giving something in return, and that in turn may be given for something else, repeat this for a bit and eventually will source materials for medical equipment and fire trucks.

>>11411138
You just invented capitalism

>>11411129
So blacks are naturally brought up with less stricter morals because of...?

Are you really going to say its not race? Asians are not brought up any different, unless you're saying for some reason other than race and genetics, black people in EVERY nation fail to raise their children... becauuuuuse...of.....? What? society? We just proved that it can't be that, seeing how they do this is in every nation, and even nations without society.

So if white people were born in Africa, and black people inhabited Europe. You think this would be reversed? When we see in South Africa that its just not the case. They are different races, they each have their own pros and cons. To deny this is odd.

>>11411144
cap·i·tal·ism
/ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
noun: capitalism

an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

I don't know, in this hypothetical society greed and profit have no need, since everyone is seen and treated as equal. Nobody sees eachother as better or less than anyone else. there is no need to make more or less than others.

>>11411138
>>11411144
Lel I think it was a joke though not the real person. I assume. Still laughing

>>11411147
Ghettos in america where created to keep minorities (specifically hispanic and african americans) down, addicted to drugs and in low positions.

>>11411161
>where created
>where

You're seriously that stupid? You might as well be a ghetto minority.

>>11411158
in your society the industry and trade are controlled by individuals and you said to get something you must give something in return. Its still capitalism if you barter instead of using money. The people who produce nothing will be unable to get any goods

>>11411164
It was stated earlier that everyone would have something to provide. I think when more care and concern are given towards the everyday people and their way of life rather than pushing a materialistic greedy idea of the pursuit of happiness, more people would be inclined to just live their lives happily, even if that meant having to scrub toilets or grow corn.

>>11411127
They do, they just ignore them when they don't agree with their politics.

>>11411171
Materialism is my idea of happiness and you are going to slave away for me while I do cocaine and eat caviar in my lambo

>>11411158
>since everyone is seen and treated as equal. Nobody sees eachother as better or less than anyone else. there is no need to make more or less than others.

What are you 12? This is exactly why we make fun of communist wannabe's as you have zero understanding of human behavior.

>>11411178
>Materialism is my idea of happiness
That is because you have been raised to believe this, it has been ingrained in your mind by the very society that pushes these things as important.

>>11411161
Are you autistic or something? What part did you not get about "black people in EVERY nation" demonstrate the same attitude of the niggers in American "ghettos".

Oh what is that? Its because black people are a race, and they happen to have a higher percentage of murderers, rapist, and thieves, because of their genetics? Wow, was that so hard to understand or accept? You must be a nigger or something...

>>11411161
>Ghettos in america where created
>where created

>>11411182
Smoking crack and eating canned tuna in a camry is not my idea of fun

I had lots of fun having this discussion with you all. There's only so much a person can debate before growing tired or bored with discussing hypothetical situations. You are all free to continue thinking whatever you want. Have an excellent day and God bless you all.

>>11411194
>god bless
It all makes sense now this guy was raised to be retarded

>>11411199
This is why Trump won

>>11411182
those things were created because we enjoy them. Faggots like you will never push the boundaries of the human spirit. kill your self and get out of our way

>>11410529

>>11411205
The only thing you're pushing is your fat rolls out of the way to jack your micro dick to anime porn you utter faggot.

>>11408662
kekkedandlolled
>>11408706
cringepilled and ignorant (literally "ignore-ant")

>>11411213
Projecting the post

>>11411202
Trump won because leftists are even more retarded than the GOP.

Let that sink in for a second.

>>11411213

>>11411219
>>11411233

>p-project much?

>>11411242
This is supposed to mean what exactly?
You really are one stupid fucker.

>>11408648
but why do blacks need to be behind glass like in a primate house?

Lucky, I wish I could experience such culture.

>>11411020
Racism is formed through pattern recognition and rationalization.

>>11408706
>/pol/ man bad

>>11411394
>/poll man good

>>11410610
This tbqhwyf

>>11411384
Nope, it's based on reinforcing unfounded prejudices by selective observation and internalisation of those few data that support those prejudices. Don't let the russians and top 10% pirates win by divide and conquer. Stop being an NPC.

>>11411104

Yes, that is a perfectly cogent critique; however, the point of my recommendation of Dawkins' work was not to offer it as a direct refutation of anything which that eminently civil Anon had said, but rather for his own edification and (hopefully) the correction of what I saw as a profound misapprehension of human nature.

>>11411351
where do you live? lets switch

>>11411480

>unfounded

Please don't.

Niggers

>>11408900
Quality post

>>11411480
>Nope, it's based on reinforcing unfounded prejudices

Nope, it's based on the probability of shared characteristics and behavior, and is simply the result of a human rationalizing their life experience and acting accordingly. To deny probability is to deny reason itself, which you probably do on a daily basis....if not hourly. Probability is the way the cosmos works, not emotions.

Should've paid attention in math, dipshit.

>>11408706
>everything I don't like must be /pol/!

>>11408957
Repealing the gun free school zone act of 1990 and not handing SSRIs out like candy would be a good start.

>>11410264
Lol, that's some ghetto ass shit. Carry a gun in that neighborhood.

>>11408706
jew

>>11410383

>muh cant define race punt

why do liberals always fall back to this when faced with uncomfortable realities

>>11410610

oh fuck he went there

>Food and Cooking

>>11408648
How the fuck did this shitty thread break 200 replies?

>>11411717
op here...i honestly have no idea

>>11408706
>It's upsetting me because it's true.
Calm down with your crying tiny tears