/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11270190
cooking in america has degraded to the point that most people coudn't make a hot sub at home

Then take your broke ass to Subway

>>11270190
Jimmy John's is better.

>>11270190
I agree

>>11270190
Are you kidding? They're like $7 on Uber Eats

>>11270190
What? Mikes is the exact opposite of that. Their sandwhiches are depressing but cheap and you get a lot.

>>11270212
Absolutely not. I came here to say this, actually.

Jersey Mike's isn't super cheap, but it's not ridiculously expensive for what you get, and what you get is a hell of a lot better than Jimmy John's. I have been to Jimmy John's a half dozen times in my life, and it's ranged from garbage to "meh," and never higher. It's Subway tier, lower in my opinion, with poor variety, and somehow they charge you significantly more. I just don't get it.

>>11270271
>Hot Sandwiches
>Gizmo

>>11270389
>jimmy john's worse than subway

you are out of your fucking MIND

>>11270389
sorta agree with this. can’t eat at jimmy johns anymore, and never ate at subway because it’s a lot worse. jersey mikes is way better than both.

Capriotti's is the best sub chain. Fite me.

>>11270212
>>11270389

eat somewhere other than jimmy johns

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jimmy-john-liautaud-hunting-photos/

https://www.truthinadvertising.org/jimmy-johns-sandwiches/

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20171215/NEWS07/171219915/jimmy-john-s-wage-theft-class-action-scores-a-victory

https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/01/07/jimmy-johns-labor-lawsuit/21385475/

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/850870-jimmy-johns-non-poaching-clause-may-have-harmed-employees/

>>11270705
I agree with him and don't understand where this 'Subway is bad' meme is coming from at all. Are you guys being subliminally influenced by the Jared pedo scandal or something?

>>11270760
i guess i just don’t like the bread at subway. the meat seems better than JJs and the veggies were always real fresh

>>11270408
https://youtu.be/oCD4kPAbKtc

>>11270760
>>11270705

see

>>11270751

>all of these Subway shills
they really went into full damage control after the pedo thing huh

>>11270784
So he shot a lion ten years ago, they had some sandwiches that should have contained 'sprouts' but didn't, and workers have sued over wage theft? Why should anyone care about any of this?

>>11270797
How is there Subway shilling in this thread? It seems more like everyone's shitting on Subway. I actually like them.

>>11270802

i dont think anyone should care about wage theft unless it happens to me (You)

>>11270733
>chain
>never fucking heard of it
>nearest one is hundreds of miles away

nice """"""""chain"""""""

>>11270815
If you're not getting paid at your job, you should find another job.

>>11270190
Stopped going to the one near me a few years ago. Fairly good for the high price, it was just conveniently near work.
A hoard of middle aged feminists decided it to be "their lunch place" and would mutter obscenities at anyone who came in.
One of them was the manager.
It closed shortly after this started, and nothing has leased the space since then.

>>11270822

lets not hold multi billion dollar companies accountable for their illegal practices and blame it on the poor workers. that's capitalism for you.

>>11270822

yep, blame the employees for letting that happen.

>>11270841
They are being held accountable though. You posted links about lawsuits didn't you?

>>11270190
bread is okay, all fillings are average to below average

>>11270846

Actually, you do you fucking mong.

Typical zoomer. Lets their boomer parents wreck their future but blame gen Y for the downfall while they all reassign their genders and fuck trees with dolphin souls. Fuck the future.

>>11270846
Pretty much, yes. Is it that hard to check your bank account every couple of weeks?

>>11270190
an italian mikes way is one of the best sandwiches ive had and got me into italians. but it is pricey. though my roll was loaded and like 8+ inches long. beats new subway footlong prices by a mile.
learn to make your own. also, sign up on the email and you get one free sub per year. and i only get like 3 promos in my inbox per year.
too lazy and drunk to capitalize, fuck you.

>>11270848

you didn't seem to care. you went on to blame the jimmy johns employees. if there's a class action lawsuit against them, how many times do you think they broke the law before they finally got confronted in court about it? never? countless times?

>>11270861

i can spot the person that didn't read the article.

>>11270840
The fucked up part is she probably works in an HR department like the rest of those cunts now, getting overpaid to fuck over much more talented people on a whim and help promote bitchy witches like them. This is the future we chose.

>>11270877
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I'm arguing they should be held accountable. I'm fine with the laws we already have for this subject.
>if there's a class action lawsuit against them, how many times do you think they broke the law before they finally got confronted in court about it?
I have no idea. What's your point here? That they should've been convicted for the allegations in the lawsuit magically before the lawsuit even existed? Also this doesn't seem like a special situation only applicable to Jimmy Johns. McDonalds had the same sort of class action lawsuit filed against them for wage theft. It sounds like something that happens at fast food places in general, although I don't know that I understand the details here.
Do you know what exactly "wage theft" really means in this context? Are these people suing because their bosses deliberately decided not to give them a pay check? Or is this some bullshit about how they *should have* been paid more because of some imagined higher paying job title they believe better fit what they were doing?

>>11270815
Isnt the wage theft on the individual franchise and not the whole corporation?

Neutral observer here who misses quiznos

>>11270883
If they didn't know they weren't making overtime then they should've checked their bank account to see how much they were making every once in a while like most everyone else does. And if they did know they weren't making overtime then that's not really theft, it's them voluntarily working a salaried position. I really don't understand how this is a problem. If you want overtime pay that badly why wouldn't you just take one of the hundreds of other fast food job openings that no one wants to work where they pay you hourly instead of with an FLSA exempt salary?

>>11270817
>he doesnt have a capriotti's near him

Get out of my thread you flyover piece of shit

>>11270924
Most of its locations are in flyover territory. And it doesn't even have a single location in the entire state of New York.

>>11270903

i can spot the second person that didn't read the article. the wage theft was about salaried mangers forced to work unpaid overtime and send their hourly employees home so as to avoid paying overtime all together.

my point in saying what you greentexted is that it's happened before, it's still happening and will keep happening without anyone caring about employees in this country. this is why organized labor needs to make a come back. capitalism is hammered into everyone of us from birth. nobody cares about fraud or exploitation of poor people, even after it's pointed out. and the poor people don't have the means to fight back because no one is on their side. the rich get richer etc.

I just watched GMM episode where they crowned Jersey Mike's to have best subs

is this just a coincidence?

>>11270934
>Most of its locations are in flyover territory.
Are you retarded?

>>11270917

as a salaried employee, try going home at 5pm every day no matter how much work is left to do and see how long you can keep doing that.

>>11270934
Fuck New York

>>11270942
If only more people thought like this. Then I wouldn't have to suffer the presence of all you flyover niggers moving in and visiting.

>>11270935
>salaried mangers forced to work unpaid overtime
That's exactly what's supposed to happen with salaried pay though. The entire point of hourly vs. salary is FLSA exempt status. And if you're FLSA exempt you don't get paid overtime. Not everyone wants to be paid overtime either when it's a choice between a few extra bucks of OT vs. not needing to be constantly time tracked like you're some grade school child with an attendance record. I love being on salary personally, not being on the clock and coming and going as you want or need with VPN access for remoting in from home is great (I work as a software dev though, not at a sandwich shop).

>>11270941
What does that have to do with anything? I already said if you don't like being salaried you have the option to work at hundreds of other comparable fast food jobs for hourly pay instead. There are always fast food vacancies, of all the industries you could be in that's probably the easiest one to let you move around to different companies.

>>11270949
New York is a smelly shithole that is literally only a layover for people traveling to Europe or more important parts of the east coast. I mean when your city doesnt even have a pro football team its shit.

>>11270951

>that's exactly what's supposed to happen with salary
there's that capitalism showing again.

you still don't understand why employers like jimmy johns make people salary and send every hourly employee home as soon as they hit 40? it's not to exploit 'free' labor? that's literally the wage theft outlined in the law suit.

>>11270190
had one for lunch today. They're a ton of meat to very little bread, how it should be. the phill is $9 and it is very filling, even for me, and I have a huge appetite. I think their prices are fair.

>>11270206
We actually work in America and most people here are in transit a lot. We don't have the luxury to live in a third world country or some Japanese pleasure dome

>>11270976
Sure. Just keep the fuck out of my city.

>>11271017
Your city is over run by smelly foreigers and commie millitants and you are worried about me? Get your life together dipshit.

Jersey Mikes costs more but the subs are so much better. Holy shit.

>>11271027
>implying I don't count you as a foreigner as well

you niggers are all the same
>flyovers shit talk NYC
>still visit like crazy
>shitskins shit talk America
>moves to the US

>>11271052
I visited Jew York one time you dumb fuck and will never go back to that cesspool. Your pizza sucks and your biggest cultural contribution is Spike Lee. Congratulations on being shit.

>>11271063
this guy knows whats up. amen brudduh.

Why do New Yorkers have such an inferiority complex? Not a one of America's best food comes from New York, state or city.

>>11271063
Yet you still visited. Please leave us to our shitty city and don't even mention our state, please.

>>11271086
>Please leave us to our shitty city and don't even mention our state, please.
Thats exactly what I said i was going to do idort

>>11271092
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP ACKNOWLEDGING OUR EXISTENCE

>>11271101
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>11271101
>>11271110
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>11270733
Firehouse is better, prove me wrong

>>11270865
This nibba speak da truuf. Seriously the Italian is spectacular. Add the hot pepper paste, trust me. My fav is the Cancro special (#12, not always on the posted menu) which is roast beef, pepperoni, and provolone. Throw the pepper paste on, have it Mike’s way, then post back in this thread about fucking awesome this is

My local grocers make superior subs, with superior ingredients, for less.

>>11270190
I'm going to try Jersey Mike's today because so many of you are saying it's somehow really great, but I gotta say it doesn't look like it would be high quality based on their menu pictures. I'm seeing giant bread, stacks of space-wasting lettuce on literally every single cold sub, and very little meat. Fortunately it looks like they have a 'remove standard toppings' section on their Uber Eats account where you can check off all the ingredients you don't want so I can get rid of all that vegetable waste through there, and it also looks like you can pay an extra three dollars to get more meat, so that's cool.
Do you anons who like this place always do that (get rid of the waste ingredients and pay for the more meat option)? Or do you actually like it served as is off the menu?

>>11270190
I've gotten into the habit of going to Kroger and getting a loaf of bread, and a pack of their sliced turkey and cheese from the deli.
Runs about $9, then I grab a six pack or gallon of water. Great meal for the road and more than enough for 2 people.

Maybe you lazy millennial retards should learn how to slice a roll and put some meat and cheese on it. Jesus Christ you are pathetic and to think you are killing the car and housing industries because you are too dumb and lazy to learn a task that Mexicans can easily learn

>not just going to the local Wawa and picking up a hoag, hot coffee and qt 3.14

You do live on the best side of the country, right?

>>11272607
Wow, that was unironically the best sandwich I've eaten in my entire 30+ years of memory having existence. Got the Italian with honey mustard on rosemary Parmesan bread minus the lettuce, tomatoes, and onions and plus extra meat. Now I understand the anti-Subway sentiment here a little more. I still don't think Subway is bad, it's more like Subway is a really basic sandwich with nothing particularly great about it, while Jersey Mike's is like an Olympic athletic performance or a virtuoso musician where you're constantly thinking to yourself as you partake in it how noticeably high quality it is.
>>11272641
>you are killing the car and housing industries
I like how all these boomer industries are dying now that our generation is becoming the majority adult population and most people around my age are content to keep to ourselves, download TV, movies, and music instead of falling for the 'information is a commodity' meme, and have whatever actual commodities we need delivered. It's how things always should have been, living this way just makes more sense.

>>11270889
Women in the workplace is a mistake. They're the equivalent of Universal Basic Income

>>11270751
>owner shot an elephant
>sprouts were killing at risk people so now they're by request only
Why am I not eating at Jimmy John's again? I don't understand your post. Are you an elephant?
I think I'm going to go to Jimmy John's then walk around at the park right now. Maybe I'll stomp on a snake crybaby.

>>11270935
Sure it happens with low paid salary fucks in all sorts of industries but it also happens in the tech and stem fields to keep them from organizing for their rights. Instead of the owner hiring sufficient employees, he pays 1 guy a fair 40 hour work week salary for the labor performed, but forces him to work 60-80 hours w/o compensation. And unironically, the right has convinced this gullible fuck that it's in his best interest to be bent over and fucked from behind. Americans enjoy being corporate slaves, and that's the only explanation.

>>11270941
I'm on salary I actually work like 10 hours a week usually

btw Jersey Mike's is my favorite I love the 13 and the 8 and the cheese steaks are decent. I had JM for lunch

>>11270751
>Snopes
I bet you unironically post links to wikipedia too, and yet still expect to be taken seriously.

>>11274581
>i'm scared of references that have them funny footnote numbers where I might have tuh go evaluate the information presented.
>I lahks tuh just hear Trump tell me wat's true

>>11270760

Subway is trash-tier.

>cold cuts are all cheap-quality crap, tastes like store-brand at Walmart
>bread is bad which is saying a lot since fresh-baked bread is rarely bad
>"grilled" "chicken"
>I don't even want to know what's in the meatballs
>condiments are all watered-down trash (seriously, next time you eat there open up your sandwich and try something like the mayo by itself. It's disgusting)

>>11273218
>not getting it Mike's way
why didn't you just spit on the floor on your way out

>>11270190
I go their with coworkers and get their bogo free and then they gotta get me lunch next time.

>>11270206
if i cook at home, making a sub would be one of the last things on my mind

>>11274995
reddit called, they miss you and want you back

>>11275453
Vegetables on a sandwich are a waste of space, and also they fuck with my digestion.
https://www.webmd.com/ibd-crohns-disease/low-residue-diet-foods

>>11271015
>Japanese pleasure dome
What? Practically all what most everyone does over there is work and they kill themselves all the time?

>>11270751
>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jimmy-john-liautaud-hunting-photos/

If you have any kind of problem with this it's because you're an uneducated drone who has never stepped foot outside a city. These hunts FUND the conservation efforts, and they almost exclusively target older male specimens that are bottlenecking reproduction. The dirt poor locals get paid, the gene flow opens up, and the hunter gets to have his trip. Literally everyone wins.

>>11270190
how poor are you? it costs like $9 a sandwich

>All this talk of best subs
>No one mentions Primos
For shame

>>11270846
>hey James I didn’t like way you put that pickle on the sub. I’m gonna have to take your pay for the week.

>>11281101
Calling it "pay theft" is sensationalist bullshit.
What they're really referring to is making use of salaried employees instead of hourly employees to cover extra hours. In the US at least, there's a law about "white collar exemptions" to overtime pay, where if you're a salaried professional then your employer doesn't pay you overtime. Which makes sense because that's the point of salary, you get the same check every couple weeks or at whatever interval your payroll runs with regardless of if you're there 20 hours that week or 80 hours that week. You're just on salary, not getting tracked and paid down to the hour like a "blue collar" wage worker.
Where the controversy comes into play is whether assistant managers at a fast food chain who are making little more than minimum wage should really be made salaried. The Obama Administration tried to pass an update to these policies about overtime pay a couple years back that would have added a minimum pay rate requirement, so as an employer you would be forced to choose between paying your salaried workers at least 48K / year or else downgrading them to hourly status. And if these fast food places downgraded their assistant managers to hourly status then they would be obligated to pay them for all that overtime accrued since they'd now be tracking all their time worked. The updated rule came very close to getting passed but was shut down by a federal court at the last minute (and actually a lot of businesses had already either downgraded their low income salaried workers to hourly and/or bumped up the pay of their borderline income salaried workers to get in compliance ahead of time).
So tl;dr no literal theft took place at these Jimmy Johns restaurants, they were only doing what a million other workplaces have done both in and outside of the food service industry, which is make use of salaried status to get staffing covered without needing to pay as much since salaried workers aren't entitled to overtime pay.

price and quality are correlated. im sorry but thats how things work in the world. if you want a cheap sub where the meat looks like a patchwork job, go to subway or jimmy johns.

>>11270776
based Iowaposter

>>11281101
It's not about blaming employees for doing a bad job working, it's about blaming employees for voluntarily putting themselves into a salaried work agreement and then turning around and complaining that they don't like it. It's like that scene in the Austin Powers movie where the guy gets ran over by a very slow moving steamroller. That's how I imagine these workers who feel victimized by this, because it's not like it would be some sudden unexpected surprise that they made less money compared to if they had been paid overtime. Of course I'm pretty sure none of these workers really felt victimized or caught by surprise by any of this, they're just looking to cash in on some opportunistic parasitic law firm's offer to steal lots of easy money from their evil bosses.