/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11249097
Powerful

>>11249097
The only meat you want is my fat cock in your tight little vegans ass when I fill you to the brim with my baby gravey.

>>11249097
wtf i hate steak now

>>11249097
I'm sure OP is just making a b8 thread but it's funny that the most fattening foods seem to be vegan. Cheap desserts made of refined sugar, flour, and vegetable shortening, and soda both probably contribute the most to obesity.

I don't know if it's still true or not, but America is/was the fattest country. Fat consumption was lower than a lot of other countries, but we lead in sugar consumption by 20% or more than the country with second highest sugar consumption.

>>11249097
the only argument Vegans have is
>MUH MORALS
>MUH FAKE CHARTS
>MUH ROOT GRINDING TEETH, THOSE CANINES ARE NOT FOR TEARING MEAT IT'S FOR TEARING ROOTS
>MUH CAVE MEN ONLY ATE VEGGIES AND FRUIT, IGNORE THE FACT THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT ALL THEY WOULD OF DONE IS EAT ALL DAY AND IGNORE THE HUNTING WEAPONS THEY MADE THAT WAS JUST SO THEY COULD HUNT VEGGIES.

>>11249143
Hard to argue that less animal death is a bad thing, they have some good moral arguments, although I'm more for lab-grown meat to deal with the moral side than trying to convert everyone to veganism.

Anything past that becomes a bit silly though. Claiming humans can be herbivores because a horse is strong while ignoring that they have to spend 16+ hours every day just eating is ignorant at best or purposely misleading at worst. Not like there aren't vegans who are totally okay with twisting facts to suit their agenda either, like claiming broccoli has more protein than beef per calorie but not telling you broccoli is so much lower in calories that you have to eat like a pound of broccoli to get the same protein as what you'd get in a small serving of beef.

>>11249143
>the only argument vegans have is facts and morals
Woah

>muh teeth
Look at this vicious carnivorous animal and its meat shearing teeth!!!

>>11249161
>less animal death
Everthing dies, fucktard

>>11249166
All primates eat meat you fucking mong.

All the meat I buy from the store is already dead.
If I don't buy it the meat is still there, dead.

>>11249166
Gorillas eat insects. It's not the sole part of their diet, but they aren't herbivores. Just like our diets shouldn't be totally meat either, but we also aren't herbivores.

>>11249161
Humans are herbivores because of our physiology

You cannot induce atherosclerosis through meat consumption in carnivores or omnivores unless you remove their thyroid

>mub bab bown beat
Bushbeating cuck

>>11249168
>dying being a natural part of the universe vs going around causing more death
not the same

also transhumanism defeats death in the end

>>11249171
>>11249182
>behavior indicates obligation and biology

doggie eat chocolate, it herbivore!!!

>>11249188
>Humans are herbivores because of our physiology
Explain why some humans evolved to continue lactose digestion into adulthood which would've only come from milk-producing animals
>mub bab bown beat
???

>>11249188
when was the last time you had a boner?

>>11249195
Would you define this as evolved?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11601881/?i=2&from=/16125328/related

>>11249205
>The milk that we now consume may be quite unlike that consumed 100 years ago.
literally from the study

>>11249208
>this desperate cherrypicking
>muh titty juice extracted during pregnancy is healthier!!!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19950719/?i=3&from=/19496976/related

>>11249097
This isnt /polk/ GET THE FUCK OUT kike faggot

>>11249193
dogs and chocolate are both man made things that don't exist in nature

>>11249217
>The content of estrogen and progesterone in commercial milk in Chinese market detected might be higher than that in traditional milk.
>in China
lmao because China is known for great quality and safe food
>might be higher than in traditional milk
>might be
still points to any issues being modern milk production and not milk itself

keep giving me more studies

>>11249221
neither do traps, what's your point?

>>11249221
Ah yes!!! Glorious fat fuck on the prowl!! Hunting through the chiseled pavements of a McDonalds drive thru in his noble 2003 Ford Taurus!! Nature!!

>>11249221
>dogs don’t exist in nature

>>11249229
Hunters turned into farmers, it was a better relationship with animals. At least until factory farming.

vegans are so snarky and passive aggressive, makes you want to pin them down and fuck them.

>>11249229
you are really on the verge of defeating your own argument here if you're going to start shitting on the conveniences of modern life
the only thing you have making a meatless diet even possible

if you took all that away and you refused to eat meat you would be dead before the year is out

>>11249223
>study in America shows milk is shit fag juice

>its not like it used to be!!!

>traditional organic farmed methods are used in MONGOLIA still produce similar results

>gaaaah China!!!

Youre a menstruating disgusting fuck no matter where your milk comes from

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524299/
Heres another so you can pathetically flail with strawmen and look like a triggered fatty

>>11249241
>chocolate and dogs are man made!!!

>but me lugging my fat ass on my motorized scooter to the mcdonalds is gods plan!!!

Exposure to exogenous estrogen through cow milk
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976/

>>11249252
>mcdonalds is the vegans argument
your meal at mcdonalds will include 2oz of meat
the rest of your meal is soda sweetened with corn syrup (vegan)
potatoes fried in vegetable oil and covered in salt (vegan)
a bun (vegan)
with ketchup (vegan)

clearly the meat is the problem though!

>>11249229
>beta cuck soy boy arguments
Only women would stop eating meat if they had to hunt and gut it themselves, men have no problem with it and in fact prefer it

>>11249267
>d-dude my mcbangang and 20 chicken nuggets is totally vegan!!!

>>11249269
>s-soyboy!!!
Suck your sausage, fatboy. Its long and wet!

>>11249267
>mcdonald's large $1 soda
>290 calories
>77g of sugar
stupid beef

>>11249287
>d-dude my mcbangang and 20 chicken nuggets is totally vegan!!!
obvious b8 m8

>>11249287
>Sausage
Processed meats are degenerate

>>11249097
I'd never date a vegan girl, their fertility is massively decreased and they tend to have more degenerate and defected children on average.

>>11249097

>>11249287
lets try this again, do you think it's the lean white meat chicken in the nuggets that causes the problem? or is it their coating of (vegan)breadcrumbs and corn starch fried in (vegan) vegetable oil?

lets see if you're retarded or not

>>11249292
Try talking like a human and not disgusting fat slob. Maybe someone will take your milk induced tantrums seriously

>>11249294
No man or woman would date you, you are defective as is

>>11249302
Lets try this again

Why do you continue to completely strawman?

>>11249313
fake news, that chart is referring to white sugar
the decline is when the corn lobby made the US switch over to HFCS in everything

>>11249316
>p-p-pls be true!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>11249316
>>11249321
For extra posterization

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LAUGH AT THE TRIGGERED MEATKEK

EMBARRASSED AGAIN

AHAHAHAHA

>>11249316
>High FRUCTOSE corn syrup isnt sugar

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>11249161
Morality is false, always, and unquestionably. So pick another argument.

>>11249343

>>11249097
meat eaters (that are fit) are fitter than vegans (that are fit)
prove me wrong

>>11249287
Shouldn't even reply but
>links graphs with no link to the article
I can make a similar graph in 10 minutes in excel that "proves" correlation between posts ending in "287" and the number of balls you fondle a day.

>>11249362
Vegans who don’t exercise have healthier arteries than omnivorous marathon runners

>>11249351
Alright let me do your work for you, the real answer is the carbon footprint of beef is higher than chicken which is higher than fish and all of it is higher than the vegan alternatives, but REALLY you need to reduce your sat fats, as agreed upon by all the world health organization's from 10% to down to 0% but beyond that, ya, animal abuse is actually illegal.

Animal abuse is illegal. No farm abuses animals willingly.

>>11249368
I was thinking more about lifting weights and being jacked but that's gotta bs, who lives longer?

>>11249367
>DUDE ITS A FAKE MADE UP GRAPH UNLESS YOU SPOONFEED ME EVERYTHING LMAO https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0024320587900865

What’s it like to be so fat, retarded, and miserable? What’s it like to get utterly humiliated each and every thread and post?

>>11249374
Ill assume you made a reply to the weing person because what you said is completely irrelevant otherwise

>>11249161
plant lives matter

>>11249368
>has no idea what IMT means in relation to health
>uses it as proof of being 'healthy'
the amount of stupidity you show is absolutely astounding. you should be studied.

>>11249379
>DUDE ITS FAKE LOL
Why are carniecucks such embarrassing humans? Will they unironically ever recover from this thread?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17518696/

>>11249397
Hey what’s it like being embarrassed thread after thread, post after post like the fat miserable fuck you are? Need a bottle of estrogen?

>>11249368
>low calorie low protein + cardio
So no macros, nothing to do veganism
just only micros
kill all vegans

>>11249426
See>>11249424

>>11249097
I have never met a vegan that wasn't fat or sickly. My one close vegan friend recently killed himself

>>11249424
fite me irl

vegans needs to practice what they preach and abstain completely from moving or ingesting to bring about the most minimal amount of harm into their environment because theyre oh so righteous and moral and healthy

>>11249390
It's arguments not based on it's mean to humanely slaughter animals, even tho malice is legally not allowed in farmed meat.

>>11249439
as retarded as this sounds, the only reason we don't eat people is because their family members will be upset and probably kill us too

>>11249475
>the only reason we don't eat people is because their family members will be upset

Prions

Still waiting on those pics of vegans fridges.

>>11249420
>bmi was lower in the low-calorie diet
ah, unexpected

>>11249544
>fat fucks on desperate damage control
ah, unexpected

>>11249546
>>fat fucks on desperate damage control
>ah, unexpected
ha, expected

>>11249188
>Humans are herbivores
The physiology would suggest so, sure... The truth is that it doesn't matter though. Evolution only occurs when necessary to fix a problem. We look like frugivores because we share a common ancestor, but we've learned as a species how to prepare meat as a food source given our physical characteristics. Humans have always found a way to exceed the evolutionary restraints of our natural abilities. That's what puts us on the top of the food chain. Eating meat is one of many things we shouldn't be able to do; it's just that we can innovate faster than we can evolve which makes us human. We don't need evolution to fix our problems anymore.

>>11249097
>vegans can only justify themselves by comparison to Wal-Mart shoppers in Alabama
you realise that outside of America people are generally very fit and also eat meat?
my great grandfather eats fermented fish and organ meats constantly and is heading towards his 101st birthday this year, my great grandmother is 97 herself and still goes for hikes in the forests here.

>>11249188
chimps eat meat when they can catch it

>>11249609
Wow.

So much to take in

Nothing to absorb

>>11249615
Nobody gives a shit about your clay hut tribes

>>11249621
And ducks eat bread if you feed it to them. Did you think this unoriginal and retarded moot point hasn’t been beaten to death?

I'm Asian American living in Japan now, never ever seen a properly fat person here and most people eat meat
everyone is very healthy including my family here >>11249609

vegans are still Americans and can only compare themselves to the worst of American society as a way to lift themselves up.
everyone else in the world eats meat and has none of these problems, more than that they live much longer too.

>>11249640
Wow, not every single person who has touched meat is an obese shitstain? Truly a profound statement!

>>11249651
so then why do some people act like eating meat makes you obese if you can obviously eat meat without becoming obese?

>>11249636
>unoriginal
just because you can;t refute it, chimps will not just eat meat if its laying around, they will actively seek it and hunt for it when it is available
vegetables and fruits don't run so obviously they are easier to get, but chimps do eat a sizeable amount of meat as part of their normal diets, including insects.

same with humans, we eat veggies in majority because they wont run away, but meat is an important part of our diets to supplement the low-energy value of vegetable.

humans can and do survive on 100% meat diets in perfect health, whereas i find it hard to think of any societies where there is a proven total attainment form any animal products. the closest are religious sects which are only sustainable thanks to the wider society supporting them.

>>11249660
Because most people who eat meat are disgusting fatties. Like you, sweetie. Keep. Up.

>>11249313
This is all the 90s kids that grew up with sugary shit coming into adulthood with health issues the decline in obesity due to sugar consumption should take more time to manifest

>>11249660
Ignore the American pig, online is the only place where vegans can talk big. I've lived in jew york city all my life and I can tell you I have never seen or heard these weirdos act or talk the way they do in the street as they do on an anonymous image board.

>>11249651
if the vast majority are not then how is this close to an argument against meat?
vegans don't even live longer than meat eaters when you compare groups from similar economic backgrounds with similar levels of physical activity.
longest lived people don't eat huge amounts of meat, but it is still an important part of their diets.

>>11249668
yea but most people in general are overweight and eat too much, with the latter being a big part of that. i'm sure if i went vegan and switched from drinking water to only soda, and eating a bunch of other junk food that's vegan like potato chips and cookies, i'd gain weight. is it just that some people are so caught up in their beliefs that they can only believe the "other" is the side with problems? i wish there was some way to easily fix all of this.

>>11249664
>just because you can’t refute it
I refuted it in that exact post. Elephants are herbivores by biology. That doesn’t mean every elephant never ever eats meat. The fact you can’t make such a clear distinction between behavior and physiology shows that you’re going for the absolute lowest hanging horrific points in desperation for grasping at something or are just genuinely that much of a fat stupid fuck

I’ll go with both

>>11249682
incidental activity is one thing
chimps eating meat is far from incidental

you are actively trying to lie and twist facts to justify this nonsense

>>11249674
That makes literally no sense at all. Do meatcucks unironically post this autistic drivel thinking anyone with an above 70 IQ would take it seriously?

>>11249686
>BRO GORILLAS ARENT HERBIVORES I SAW ONE EAT MEAT

Thats lying because you’re a fat stupid fuck who doesn’t understand PHYSIOLOGY.

>>11249686
same with humans
#1 part of all traditional diets is some sort of plant matter, often grains like rice or wheat.
#1 part of chimp diet is fruits and wild edibles

but meat is sill and important part of both diets and both chimps and humans will actively hunt for meat to compliment the rest of their diet.
the fact that meat is a comparatively smaller part of the diet means nothing since the caloric value is much higher.

>>11249636
>Wow. So much to take in. Nothing to absorb
Our physiology doesn't matter. We do what we choose because we can. You can't call people herbivores because we look like them. The actual diet determines what type of consumer a person is. If I'm eating a steak while tearing your pathetic argument to shreds, I'm no more a herbivore than you are a competent debater.

>>11249695
chimps
worthless idiot
you're brain is turning into mushy tofu
gorillas also have very low activity levels compared to chimps due to their diet

>>11249679
>>11249678

>LOL YOU CAN GET FAT ON ANYTHING
Brilliant astute observation again. How are you this fucking retarded? Do you just refuse to understand the main point because you’ll have to look at your flabs in the mirror?

>>11249707
>chimps
And im talking about any herbivore in general. Sorry im not conforming to your utterly ridiculous strawman that has absolutely nothing to do with biology

>>11249711
what argument have you even made? the only thing youve done in this entire thread is loudly shout at how fat everyone but you is

almost like you’re projecting or something ;^)

>>11249702
our physiology does matter, except we have the bodies of hunters, high activity animals. not low activity grazers.
we have large brains, powerful eyes, fast twitch muscles, erect posture, strong legs for long distance stalking of prey, and a natural ability to throw objects/use tools

>>11249702
>If I'm eating a steak while tearing your pathetic argument to shreds, I'm no more a herbivore than you are a competent debater.
/rekt

>>11249715
tedious little polyp
you mention chimps in that meme chart, then turn around ans say "woah not actually chimps though!" because chimps hunt and kill regularly
oops!

>>11249702
>our physiology doesn’t matter

Oh okay? So i guess if a vegan consumes no B12 “it doesnt matter!!! Physiology is a meme!!”

How the fuck do you even you exist?

>>11249719
he's a stupid skinnyfat yank
every vegan American Ive ever seen has had a grotesque skinny-fat body

>>11249692
>adult obesity
>adult
The sample only includes people who were born before the sugar consumption peaked and were exposed to it during childhood, whats so hard to grasp you brainlet, do this graph again in 10 years

>>11249719
Im arguing fat fucks like you are fat. You seem to be acting like an exception to this is a rule. What you like me to draw a picture or are you just gonna autistically reee for another dozen posts?

>>11249740
have you ever left the USA before?

>>11249738
>these completely pants on head retarded mental gymnastics

Lol jesus christ

>>11249097
If you are vegan

Eat my dick

>USA

>>11249188
This chart is full of straight up shit and is based on a childlike understanding of physiology.
https://veganbiologist.com/2016/01/04/humans-are-not-herbivores/

>>11249730
I didn’t mention anything. I could’ve mentioned the inside of your obese anus and it wouldn’t make a difference. Your anecdotes about behavior literally in no way change physiology. There’s a reason behavior and biology are considered when talking about dietary habits of animals.

>>11249325
>obesity is from the ingredients not from the calories

>>11249752
>flawed study
>flawed results
Hurr mental gymnastics

>>11249759
>it doesn’t count!!!

This is the summary of every obese fat fuck’s argument in this thread

>>11249748
Have you ever not be an embarrassing mess in your entire life? Why do you continue to strawman?

>>11249760
except human behaviour and biology is that of high activity hunters
like I said I'm Asian and have spend most of my life living in Japan now though I was born in Oregon
I never see fat people yet everyone eats meat, and fried chicken is the most popular snack here

comparing everyone to stupid white trash is just lies

>>11249764
>its flawed because im a triggered fatty who cant stop drinking cow milkies
Interesting rebuttal

>>11249767
Maybe you should read the source. But it's obvious the iron, amino acid and b-vitamin deficiency are destroying your brain.

>>11249768
>except human biology is of a hunter
Of plants? Sure. Allow me to give you a quick biological rundown >>11249760

>DUDE NOT LITERALLY EVERYONE IS FAT
Wow! No way!

>>11249776
Maybe you should try cleaning up the lactating stains from your shirt. Or are you just too much of a fat fuck with fat clogging his brain to think rationally for one second in his life? Would you prefer the big strong vegan to not be such a big bully :(

>>11249780
Nah I like pounding vegan boy pussy, it's nice and loose since their muscle tissue is generally atrophied and weak due to Their sedentary lifestyles and lack of proper nutrition. Makes the hole nice and easy to slide into.

>>11249778
Not the asian
Just wanted to say Im gonna keep eating meat and still fuck vegan pussy and vegan boipussy
Stay assblasted greencuck

>>11249778
>urmm sweaty, let me post this meme chart again
humans evolved from a creature similar to chimps so we carry the same body plan, but we are very different creatures.
and even then chimps are not frugivores, meat is an important part of their diet which they actively seek and hunt for so this entire chart is just a lie to start with.
humans cannot subsist on fruit alone and require complex social and technological societies to subsist on a pure vegan diet.
the human body is a hunters body as I said.
we are high activity animals with keen vision for various levels of light. we have fast twitch muscle fibres and far greater control of our muscles than any other ape has allowing for pinpoint accuracy (something pointless for a vegetarian but critical for a hunter) we have extreme endurance levels to stalk prey, and we have natural genetic toolmaking ability which again is pointless for a fruit eater.
beyond all this our erect posture, built to stride along the open plains and spot game, not skulk around the treetops for fruit.

you are just a dumb liar

>>11249791
>>11249790
>get utterly BTFO

>i wanna fuck you vegans

ah, unexpected

Stay. In. Your. Lane. Fatties.

>>11249797
Thanks for eating only fibres to train your boipussy
Makes it easier for me

>>11249797
Lol, whatever, God says I can eat meat.

>>11249795
>the human body is a hunters body
Based on yet again, some dairy induced menstrual tantrum

Everything you described about posture and tools and bullshit is not remotely exclusive to a hunter. We are apparently such efficient hunters we turned entirely to agriculture! No tools there right? Take a look at your vicious sharp teeth and claws. Your frail body. Not remotely a hunter. We do not support meat biologically. Theres a reason wolves hunt their food and we grow ours.

>>11249801
Based God poster

The only cuck religion (not a real religion btw) is ((buddha)) cucks
And they all smell like shit and shit in the streets

>>11249801
Im God.

meatcucks
>we developed tools to hunt and make animal agriculture!! its our nature man!!!

also meatcucks
>you developed technology to obtain b12 from non animal sources to still thrive on a vegan diet??? thats not natural!!

>>11249827
>greencucks still posting being assblasted
Keep up those fibres and thick ass shit leakages

>>11249842
>please spare me vegangod!!!!

We. Run. This. Shit.

>>11249732
>Oh okay? So i guess if a vegan consumes no B12 “it doesnt matter!!! Physiology is a meme!!”
Holy shit, you're slow. It's ok, I'll walk you through one more lesson before I go to bed. The point you were trying to make is that physiology determines the type of consumer. A person can intake B12 from meat or supplements, so it doesn't matter what type of consumer a person is as long as they get the necessary nutrition to survive. Being an omnivore or herbivore and having their physical traits or physiology, is irrelevant here. This only futher proves my point that human innovation has surpassed evolution. What a person actually eats is all that matters to determine what type of consumer they are, simple as that. Now stop humiliating yourself and fuck off back to /b/.

>>11249237
They really don't. The most of domesticated dogs are so far refined that they're entirely different from the wild canines.

>>11249856
>The point you were trying to make is that physiology determines the type of consumer.

Biologically yes, and there is absolutely no arguing this despite your dairy induced autistic hissyfits. Point blank. Period. You keep trying to imply behavior has any bearing on this. It doesn’t. Poing blank.

>MUH TECHNOLOGY
You’re just rambling on about complete bullshit in attempt to feign some profound reasonable point. It’s utterly pathetic and you unironically spent 30 minutes trying to convince your sagging mantits that biology means shit

Pathetic

>>11249852
No thanks
God made animals just for us to eat and enjoy
Stay mad and assblasted, vegan greencuck

>>11249872
Gods a cuck that let his son Yeshua get nailed to a cross by Jews

When Cthulu comes you meatcucks are really gonna be disappointed

>>11249171
Gorillas are herbivores and also eat insects.

I'm beegan
I only eat bees

>>11249869
>Biologically yes
Ok, cool. I agree. De facto, some humans are successful omnivores, while others are successful herbivores. Once again, it doesn't matter what we eat or what we were designed to eat as long as we survive. The fact is that you are not a herbivore once you start eating meat, regardless of what the biology may suggest. Congratulations, your argument is now fully dismantled. If you have anymore confusion on the subject, I'd refer you to a dictionary; I can't break this down for you any further. Later, cunt.

>>11249930
>Ok cool. I agree
Oh really? Nice! Nothing else to discuss then. Everything else is just your incredible brain damaged autistic ramblings seeded from your pathetic existence tied to his precious meaties :(

Must suck going through all of that just to still be a fat retard, eh?

>>11249880
great comic

>vegsnism isnt natural!

>well who cares we superseded nature!

>heart disease? diabetes? cancer? fake news

Must take a lot of weight to move those goalposts all the time

>>11249973
It is

>>11249166
In order to survive on a mostly plant-based diet, gorillas eat their own faeces. Do with this information what you must, vegans.

>>11250007
In order to survive on a diet that includes meat, humans must eat a profuse amount of vegetables at the bare minimum

>>11249805
>not unique to a hunter
name ONE herbivore with similar traits
They are completely wasted on a vegetarian diet and evolution is never wasteful

Humans adopted agriculture for social reasons (hierarchy and political control) not biological
In fact the overal health of agricultural era humans and earlier hunters is staggering in its decline
The average human height plummeted after the agricultural revolution, and height is the best sign of overal health and nutrition

Human height never reached similar levels again until the modern era where technology made meat once again widely available for the population

A vegetarian population is a weak and servile one, perfect for tyrannical control

>>11249097
Take a picture of your fridge and cupboards with timestamps to prove your actually vegan

>>11249097
I don't care too much about animal welfare. I eat a predominately plant based diet with a little dairy and eggs on the side. Once or twice a week I'll have chicken or some fish etc. This mediterrenian-style diet has been proven time and time again to be the healthiest and that's my primary concern.

>>11249097
If you're not a troll, please look into reactance to understand why what you're doing here is counterproductive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactance_(psychology)

>>11250227
nice blog post. now can we get back to shit posting for and against veganism?

>>11249805
Why did humans evolve an upright gait, long, powerful legs, shoulders with a bigger range of motion than other primates that makes them perfect for throwing, sweat glands with a capacity for thermoregulation only rivaled by horses, hairless bodies, small teeth, small jaw muscles, and a digestive tract that is shorter than any other primate compared to our body size?

Because we evolved into persistence hunters. Our ancestors chased after prey animals, who would run away until they had to rest. Then our ancestors would follow the tracks and show up before the animal could fully recover and it would run off again. This pattern would repeat itself until the animal collapsed from heat and exhaustion and our ancestors could chuck sharp sticks at it until it died. Homo sapiens evolved to be nature's Terminator.

A mostly plant-based diet was also impossible outside of the tropics, like in Europe, where fruit and nuts are seasonal. Our ancestors would have needed to hunt and trap to even have a chance at surviving. A single deer could feed 4 people for 5 days. In the time between hunts the tribe could set traps, forage seasonal plants, and make clothes and tools. Where would they have found the time for any of this while living mostly off plants?

>>11249113
If im not vegan, but can i get some of that baby gravy?

Today, the hatred of strength takes an extreme form in veganism , which denies that humans have the right to make use of the natural world and its creatures as they please. If this ethic were applied consistently, it would be unconscionable for us to breathe or digest, since this requires consumption and domination. At the heart of this attitude is an effeminate resentment toward strength or the Will to Power, which is really a hatred of life itself.

Furthermore, animals are like machines; not because they are inanimate but because, like all machines, animals lack agency and will. Animals are objects of natural forces, not potential subjects of their own destiny.

Finally, any morality you attribute to the killing of animals is a spook. The empathy that dictates our dealings with other humans is an evolutionary trait that helps build strong societies. Through the process of kin selection, empathy allows us to indirectly propagate our own genes. Altruistic behaviour that does not satisfy Hamilton's rule is irrational. Not eating meat is therefore an example of pathological altruism and veganism can therefore be considered a mental illness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection

Today, the hatred of strength takes an extreme form in veganism , which denies that humans have the right to make use of the natural world and its creatures as they please. If this ethic were applied consistently, it would be unconscionable for us to breathe or digest, since this requires consumption and domination. At the heart of this attitude is an effeminate resentment toward strength or the Will to Power, which is really a hatred of life itself.

Furthermore, animals are like machines; not because they are inanimate but because, like all machines, animals lack agency and will. Animals are objects of natural forces, not potential subjects of their own destiny.

Finally, any morality you attribute to the killing of animals is a spook. The empathy that dictates our dealings with other humans is an evolutionary trait that helps build strong societies. Through the process of kin selection, empathy allows us to indirectly propagate our own genes. Altruistic behaviour that does not satisfy Hamilton's rule is irrational. Not eating meat is then an example of pathological altruism and veganism can therefore be considered a mental illness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection

>>11249974
so basically vegans are retards from the future

>>11249983
>he drew the cow's vagina
veganism is a mental illness

>>11250293
Only cromagnons have that capacity for throwing weapons. Because they're cowards who stood at a distance to throw things at Neanderthals. Even then it took 10 cromagnons to kill a single Neanderthal. Incredible. Good thing for them they were r-selected and had plenty in supply.

>>11249097
why are most body builders strongmen and athletes not vegan why aren't they constantly winning

>>11250366
why are you meatfags so insecure

>>11250375
t. cowfucker

>>11250385
t. world killer

>>11249140
That's why I eat only whole plant foods. It's hard to get fat that way, even when stuffing oneself with dried fruits. The fiber keeps things moving.

>MY MORAL IS BETTER THAN YOURS
vegans are dumb as fuck

>>11250387
You can't kill the biosphere by eating meat. It will adapt even to man-made climate change. The only thing that gets "killed" is the steady state, which never existed in the first place.

>>11250387
agriculture is worse for the environment