/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11228093
Why would you want to? Break it up a bit, bro. Have some steel cut oats every other day or something.

>>11228093
The scare came from the incorrect assumption that dietary cholesterol = blood cholesterol. It doesn't but was presumed so because a diet that contains a lot of cholesterol is generally really unhealthy anyway (too much fat, excessively processed foods, etc.). If the rest of your diet is good there's no reason you can't have 2-3 eggs a day while maintaining optimal blood cholesterol and triglycerides.

It’s okay to eat eggs everyday as long as you get consent from the chickens.

>>11228093
Dietary cholesterol fine as long as the rest of your diet is on point and your organs are working properly

>>11228123
This. Most people spreading FUD, doom and gloom about how you can't eat X or you'll die, are spreading stupidity based on junk science. Ignore them. If you like eggs, eat eggs.

I eat four yolks a day, the white part has barely any flavor.

they're ok as long as you DONT LET THE YOLK SOLIDIFY

NO DONT

IT CREATES SOME COMPOUNDS OR SOME SHIT

Red pill you on Chlorinated water and they're high in sulfur.

Bad.


Eat an egg alternative.

The truth is that nobody really knows because dietary "science" is all speculation and bullshit. Don't eat anything overly processed and keep your diet reasonably varied and stick to high quality food if you can. That's as "redpilled" as any diet you are going to get. Also just don't overeat all the time.

>>11228338
>vary your diet

this was just debunked by science you BITCH

>>11228329
YESSSSSS FUCK!

>>11228341
And in 3 years it will be "debunked" back.

>>11228337
Huh?

>>11228093
As long as you're eating organic eggs from pastured chickens. The factory farmed toxic eggs from chickens packed like sardines into cages their entire life are deadly. Raise your own, you'll never go back.

Fact check *throws the blue pill in your mouth*

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>>11228369
Oh good, Hiromooto added a function to show which posts are extra gay.

>>11228123
Wrong. One study funded by the egg industry doesn't change mountains of knowledge and science.

>>11228551
>you're wrong
>no point, counter-argument, or source
Please try again, dummy.

>>11228551
Nice evidence, boomer.

dietry science is pseudoscience just like psychology as long as mechanisms and other important information about how the human body works arent fully understood. the best you can do is look at health statistics of small rgeographical regions or groups that follow a strict or specific diet and draw your own conclusions. the people of sardinia and the people of okinawa who live in so called blue zones, zones where life expectation is unusually high, would be a good place to start. if too much salt or too much olive oil in your diet would be bad, those people would not enjoy their exceptional health standards, would they?

>>11228123
Proof?

>>11228888
you have to prove dietary cholesterol and blood colesterol are linked, not him the other way round. you make the claim here buddy, not him

>>11228979
That's an argument from ignorance. The best you can say is that there is insufficient data pointing in either direction.

>>11228979
Never made any claim, retard. I asked for proof of his claims. Learn to read.

Contained within the Egg is all that is required to produce a complex, multi cellular animal in its entirety including; nerves, brain, muscle, liver, kidney, tendons etc. How could this not be good for you to eat? The Egg nurtures, friend.

>>11228888
https://www.heartfoundation.org.au/healthy-eating/food-and-nutrition/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol-in-food

Some of the people bulking up in my gym said they've been eating 10 boiled eggs a day. I find that overkill, but they're not gaining fat so I guess it's working for them.

>>11228093
>red pill me on the healthiness of eating eggs.
it's unhealthy, don't eat them at all. eating eggs spikes blood cholesterol for hours. All the studies on eggs are misleading because they measure fasting cholesterol levels. So they have someone eat eggs, then only measure their cholesterol several hours after their last meal, when obviously there will be very little cholesterol in their blood.
So if you regularly eat eggs and meat and other maturated fats, you are killing yourself slowly, for real.

>>11229062
>eating eggs spikes blood cholesterol for hours.

dietary cholesterol does not influence serum cholesterol very much.

>>11228888
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+dietary+cholesterol+linked+to+blood+cholesterol

Boy that was hard! Turns out all it takes is curiosity and 5 seconds of typing followed by a few minutes of browsing a few sources.

Now prove they're linked (good luck, faggot!)

>>11229255
inb4 links from mercola, oz, axe, or veganfrottage.com

>>11229255

Eggs are tasty and fun to cook and eat and they make you big and strong and they're cheap and you don't have to worry about them going bad without cool air if you get them fresh and they're tasty.

>>11229036
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8569481&d=1487171242

>>11229332
>browsing a few sources
Apparently your reading comprehension is as poor as your humor.

>>11229373
>dat gish gallop

>>11229489
loser debate 101: keep changing the subject at every turn because you have no point

>>11228123
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>>11229255
Boomers
Not even once

Saturated fats, trans fats, and refined carbs increase serum cholesterol and atherosclerotic risk
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/77/5/1146/4689813

Dietary cholesterol increases LDL oxidation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10704618/

Dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterol, a meta analysis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1534437/

The progression of cholesterol and atherosclerosis
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.cir.0000103664.47406.49

Saturated fats impair antioxidative properties of HDL and disrupt endothelial function
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16904539/

Coconut oil is as horrible as butter for LDL cholesterol and serum lipids
http://www.jlr.org/content/36/8/1787.full.pdf

Meta analysis claiming saturated fats are harmless is seriously misleading
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2014/03/19/dietary-fat-and-heart-disease-study-is-seriously-misleading/

Egg consumption increases LDL levels and LDL oxidation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9001684/

>b-b-but muh keto soccer mom bloggers!
Retarded shitheads

>>11228093
It's almost impossible to say without first creating an optimal diet.

Even a cohort study isn't be all and end all, because eggs might be providing a beneficial nutrients which are orthogonal to potential detrimental ones among the selected population. That population could have nutritional deficiencies fixed by the eggs for instance. For a population with a more optimal diet potential negative effects might well outweigh positive ones.

>>11229532
>bunch of shit about saturated fat which is not cholesterol

>durr keto bloggers

i am a dietitian. the bulk of research indicates a very low effect on serum cholesterol from dietary cholesterol.

>>11229515
Oh the ironing.

>>11229632
Studies seem all over the place to me. I searched specifically for studies which actually measured plaque and the studies seem balanced between reducing it, being irrelevant and increasing it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4136506/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4309282/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26062990

All first page results.

>>11229632
https://www.andeal.org/conclusion.cfm?conclusion_statement_id=251536

>The ADA Disorders of Lipid Metabolism workgroup concurs with the following statement and grade from the USDA Nutrition Evidence Library (NEL):

>Moderate evidence from epidemiologic studies relates dietary cholesterol intake to clinical cardiovascular disease (CVD) end-points. Many randomized clinical trials on dietary cholesterol use eggs as the dietary source.

>Independent of other dietary factors, evidence suggests that consumption of one egg per day is not associated with risk of coronary heart disease or stroke in healthy adults, although consumption of more than seven eggs per week has been associated with increased risk.

>>11229632
Lol half of those deal DIRECTLY with cholesterol you fucking idiot

>i am a dietitian
You’re a fat retard

>>11229852
1st study has baseline counts all over the place, complete joke. 2nd and 3rd are sectional design, completely and utterly unsuitable for heart disease . Youd know this if you actually knew shit about nutrition

>>11229532
>diet consisting only of eggs and corn oil is bad for you
huh
that really makes me think

Op here, just wanted to point out i havent posted here and am just reading the information you guys share. I appreciate all of your insight. I know there is no perfect diet, but im looking for a well rounded diet that will serve me well through my entire life into my later years. It doesnt have to be perfect but I would like to understand what im doing to my body regardless. I'm in my late 20s and I just want to treat myself properly.

>>11229924
Thats not what any of the studies were. They measured blood lipid, endothelial, and serum cholesterol response to a variety of factors. Dietary cholesterol and saturated fats all negatively effected them

>>11229913
So what you are saying is that there are pretty much no good studies which actually measured the correlation between plaque build and egg consumption?

>>11229976
That's what I said bitch

>>11228093
eat whatever the fuck you want, just don't eat it all the time.

So what kind of animal protein is ok to eat everyday?

>>11231483
Sardines

>>11228093
as long as you're only eating like 2-3 eggs a day yeah it's fine

>>11231483
Sardine, Chicken

Eggs.

>>11231483
Crickets

>>11231483
White chicken breast, higher pH compared to other meats.

>>11231483
The only meat you should be eating is your girlfriend's.

>>11230111
Well that's unfortunate then, because as nice it is to know about heart attack risk ... pure plaque build up is still important. Completely calcified plaque might have low risk of heart attacks, but it will still fuck with your quality of life.

>>11228093
look. they might not be the healthiest thing. (not even sure) but eating a cookie a day is way fucking worse then eating 3 eggs a day

>>11228093
I've looked into it extensively and there are 2 legit concerns.
1. the egg yolk must not be cooked or else you oxidize the cholesterol. Normal cholesterol is okay to consume but oxidized cholesterol damages you. So eat soft boiled and runny yolk fried eggs. No scrambled.
2. egg whites have lysozymes which tear holes in your gut lining through which they then pull undigested egg protein into your blood stream which leads to autoimmune disease. lysozymes can't be deactivated by cooking.

#1 you can get around by cooking only the egg whites, but #2 is unavoidable. which is why I don't eat eggs anymore.

I'm actually planning on starting a small little egg stand using some propane griddles while I'm here in college. I think it would make for a very profitable investment that I could actually afford for start up costs and about a month of supplies.

I've been planning on what I'd make, what ingredients I'd use, where'd I'd set up shop and at what times, etc. I know you guys have some thoughts on this. Hit me.

>>11232973
Sounds like you looked extensively into a homeopathic blog. I dont think you understand how oxidation or gut bacteria works

>>11229976
Im saying your studies were trash. You already knew that though and are just desperately grasping for straws

>>11233021
Well, show me any good intervention studies specifically for eggs, I somehow doubt they exist. So what exactly is your opinion based on if not cross sectional data?

>>11233004
Not him, but actually it's from the paleo crowd.
https://thepaleodiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Paleo-Paper-eggwhite.pdf

>>11232973
>eat soft boiled and runny yolk fried eggs.
AYE AYE, cap'n, I can do that