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>>11217983
Bakers

>>11217983
Buy whiskey, throw in trash.

Go buy scotch.

>>11218010
what's a good scotch I can get for $50?

>>11218010
Scotch is a type of whiskey

>>11217983

Get yourself some Four Roses. Great stuff for the price point.

>>11218012
There's several basic types of scotch, and you'll have to play with each to figure out what you like.

Basics:
Highland
Lowland
Speyside
Islay
Blended

Blended is cheapest, and easy to find. I like Grant's, for the price.

I can't stand Highland Scotch, it hits like gasoline to me (I'm sure everyone else loves it, and is so much cooler than me) but I love Lowland, or Speyside. Find you a cheap local brand that you can get, and try a few styles out.

Don't fall for the Single-Malt meme, you'll pay double or triple the price for something you won't appreciate until you really get a taste for it.

>>11218017
"I need to move a lot of stuff, what kind of car should I buy?"
"Maybe a truck."

>A truck is a type of car

>>11218041
No, thats like saying "what kind of vehicle should I buy"
>Scotch whisky (Scottish Gaelic: uisge-beatha na h-Alba; often simply called Scotch) is malt whisky or grain whisky made in Scotland. Scotch whisky must be made in a manner specified by law.[1]

For me? It's JP Wiser's Deluxe.

>>11218047
If you're the same anon, you just back-tracked.

>Scotch is a type of whiskey
>No, Scotch is entirely different, not in the same category

>>11218053
Not the same anon, what's so hard to understand? Scotch is a type of whiskey. Asking for good whiskey automatically includes scotch as well

>>11218066
"Good" whiskey includes all whiskey.

He asked for "decent" whiskey, which should only include scotch.

If you can't detect the sarcasm, you don't deserve a response anymore.

>>11217983
You picked a decent mid-grade Irish. I'm a bit of a whiskey enthusiast, and while I don't prefer Irish, nothing else comes close to its flavor. Scotch is similar, being of a mostly barley malt mash, but is usually smokier or drier. Each whiskey has its own charms, whether American bourbons/rye, Scotch, Irish, or Japanese.

If you like Tulla, don't bother with Bushmills or Jameson, because they're pretty much bottom of the barrel whiskey as far as the US goes. Redbreast 12 yr old cask strength on ice or with a nice irish red/Guinness chaser is always nice. There are also some high-end Jameson bottlings I've heard of, but have never tried. They will cost you, though. A cheap substitute would be 2 Gingers or Paddy's, but they're honestly about on par with Jameson or Bushmill's, except $10 or so cheaper for a 750ml

I would just stick with Tulla, though.

drink bourbon like a real american. evan is cheap and good, buffalo trace for a step up. when youre rich theres a million different little ones

>>11218012
You can get almost any 10-12 year old single malt at that price range. Highlands are sweet, Speysides are grassy/dry/neutral/smooth, but also the "wild card" that can be smokey, and Islays are almost always super smokey and "peaty".

Lowland scotch doesn't have many US representatives, but I've heard it's closer to Speyside in being a more "neutral" scotch, but you be the judge.

>>11218024
>>11218087

These. American bourbon is great. Evan if youre on a budget. Four roses, Buffalo Trace and Wild Turkey are a bit more expensive but well worth the money.

As far as Irish whisky goes Lagavulin and Ardbeg are good and widely available but kinda pricey

>>11218090
This. If you're just starting out with Scotch, I'd advise with Scottish whiskeys in particular to be very careful of Islay styles. Those typically have a very dark/smokey profile and can be overwhelming just starting out. I nearly got turned of whiskey entirely because my friend started me off with an Ardbeg 18 year old. I'm sure the stuff is good mind you, but the stuff tasted like I was drinking liquified burnt wood chips. If you can attend a tasting session I'd recommend it so you can isolate which styles you like. I'm a Glenrothes fan myself.

>>11218115

Meant Scottish, and they’re the staple ‘intro’ scotch whiskys

>>11218117
>>11218115
>>11218090
>>11218078
Solid advice thanks

if you want a cheap blended scotch cutty sark is damn decent it’s like 18$ a fifth in most states

Try Japanese ones

>>11218258
I'd like to.

>>11218115
I've only ever had four roses and it was as if a comfy blanket enveloped me. Bourbon is nice but I know nothing of whiskey

>>11218017
If you really want to be pedantic, Scotch is a whisky, not whiskey.

If you like Tully, you'll probably like other Irish whiskies, such as Jameson's and Bushmills. If you want to try a really high-end Irish blend, pretty much silk in a glass, I strongly recommend Jameson's Gold Reserve. As far as Scotch is concerned, the ones that tend to have the smoothness of Irish are the Speyside malts, so something like Aberlour 12 for a basic one.

>>11218075
>I-i'm not an idiot, guys!
>I was just being sarcastic!

A new Irish whiskey has just been made available.
It comes from the exquisite tastes of our favourite whiskey connoisseur Conor McGregor.

>>11217983
Glenfiddich. Goes down easy, tastes nice. Perfect for whisky babbies.

>>11218024
>>11218115
not op, just to be sure, this one? it's kind of cheap where i live, cheaper than jack daniels even

>>11219296
that ones okay, the single barrel is better. I like overproof bourbon, id look for one around 90 proof, so makers mark, eagle rare, woodford, etc

>>11217983
tully is great stuff.

If you want to step up, go for some RedBreast or Power's. Red Breast, Powers, Tully, Bushmills and Jamison's were the only 5 that survived prohibition, if i'm not mistaken, and I think 4 of those were made at one distillery. My irish whiskey history isn't all that sharp, but as the story goes, prior to prohibition, it was irish (not scotch) that dominated the whiskey scene. But a perfect storm of American Prohibition, Ireland's independence from England and the potato famine pretty much killed global distribution. when the US was like.. hey prohibition is stupid, they pretty much called ireland was was like.. hey send the ship. and ireland was like, ok we will have a batch in 12 years. and scotland was like.. um... be there in 6 weeks. and that was pretty much how scotch became a global meme and irish whiskey is only just now recovering.

>>11218990
I'm beginning to wish someone would assassinate this bitch with a fist to the face, for the laughs.
>>11219296
Garbage bourbon

OP, it depends on what you like to try or just what you like.

If you want something similar to tulli, get more irish stuff.
Bushmils, jameson are sweet friendly entry tier.
Redbreast and teeling are better and pricier.
Scotch differs like fuck. If you would like to have something more complex but still approachable, get highland park, macalan, oban, old pulteney, glenfiedich, even bowmore 12.
If you feel brave and manly, get something peaty and smoky. Lagavulin, ardbeg, laphroaig and talisker are not that pricy but they are rightfully considered cornerstones and gateway to the World of super rich heavy flavours. You either love them or hate them.

Current favorite. Really good whiskey and IMO, at ~$35 a bottle, a very good value.

>>11218258
>Jap booze
Suggested brands? Other than pic related.

If you put ice in it you are better off buying toilet cleaner. If you decide to man up and leave to ice for cocktails try dahlwinnie. It is an easy drinking whiskey. If you want to man up next level try laphroaigh.

>>11218012
Glenfiddich, single malt tasted if peat and pear. ~$35
Johnnie Walker Black, people will scoff at me but it's decent for the price. It's like Johnnie Walker Red(Vanilla, peppery, some green apple notes) but smoother ~$30-35

>>11219396
>man up
>man up
>next level
Wanna know how I know you're a cunt?

>>11219407
Putting ice in your whiskey makes half of ireland spin in their graves.

Islay is the best region for whisky and that's a FACT.

>>11219396
>unironically using the phrase 'man up' twice in one statement about alcohol

Man I miss high school when everyone thought liquor was cool. You'll see. When you're an adult nobody gives a single fuck and in fact, this kind of retarded braggadocio is considered very cringey.

>>11219376
oh yeah this stuff is baller for $35 bucks. it's really excellent rye at any price, really.

>>11219437

I put ice and a single jigger of water for each two jiggers of whisky.

The cold tones down the burn while the water brings out the flavors and has a bonus of keeping me more hydrated.


Sue me.

I was gifted this bottle last year and finally got around to trying it. It was amazing. I'm usually not into Irish stuff but god-damned!

It's my first time drinking something that was over 100$ for a bottle, so was it "worth it"? dunno. depends what your attitude is on paying for top shelf liquor, but I'd like to get another bottle someday.

I like
>Jameson for my Irish
>Crown Royal for my Canadian
>Maker's Mark for my Bourbon
>Knob Creek for my rye

I'm not really a Scotch guy. I'll never fucking drink Jack. I'm not saying my choices are the best, it's just what I usually buy. I'm open to suggestions myself.

>>11217983
> all these neckbeards who think drinking whisky makes them look manly
go try some cognac, op.

>>11219658
>Cognac is manly

>>11219658
Is it me or is cognac only popular amongst
>black dudes bc henny
>wiggers for same reason
>old asian men
>fruits
>advertising types

>>11217983
Buffalo Trace, Wild Turkey 101, Henry Mckenna, Old Grandad, Jameson, Monkey Shoulder, The Glenlivet and Compass Box.
Also I don't mean to sound snobbish but I can't think of a worse way to drink whiskey than with one ice cube. It will immediately melt and water down the whiskey and it won't even be cold. I'd recommend drinking neat out of glencairn, or filling up a glass with ice or an ice ball.

>>11217983
I got a bottle of Buffalo Trace and it was the nastiest shit I've ever had in my life. I almost poured it down the sink. Maker's Mark is about the same price and really good, probably my favorite. Wild Turkey 101 is good and pretty cheap. Henry McKenna was good for the price point, it's the cheapest of the lot.

>>11219703
>assigning gender stereotypes to alcohol
lol fragile masculinity, precisely what I was talking about

>>11219838
>black dudes bc henny
>wiggers for same reason
black folk love their henny and always have done so, see pic related
>old asian men
cognac has become a luxury item in china enough so that cognac houses have to ration their supply to meet chinese demand
>fruits
>advertising types
can't speak for either of these (unless being a filthy tranny counts?) but I can certainly imagine advertising yuppies loving it.
it's a shame really, cognac is a wonderful drink that not a lot of people seem to have tried

>>11220288
derp forgot pic

>>11219838
Cognac is the "wearing too much cologne" of dark spirits. That's why people with no taste (blacks, asians) love it

>>11217983

Single malt scotch. Something that's been cask finished like a port or sherry.

Glen Moray makes a good range of moderately priced scotches this way. Pic related.

Try some scotch.

If you want Scotch, get some Glendronach.

If you're budget doesnt stretch that far, I think youre better off with bourbon. IMO, cheap bourbon is better than cheap scotch.

>>11218115
Gets you some Pucketts Branch anon, best bourbon for the price. My local sells it for 20$
Great with ginger, neat, a cube or O.J. when everyone else is doing bloodys.

Glenmoragie original is the best whiskey I've ever had.

>>11217983
I like Wild Turkey 101 myself.

>>11219865
I think Buffalo Trace is overrated as hell, but I don't know how something so boring and inoffensive can be considered nasty.

>>11219850
Monkey Shoulder is one of my go to's but I cant fuck with wild turkey I dunno what it is but it hits like a bat

Best bang for you buch whiskies

>Single malt: Loch Lomond Original
>Blended Malt: Monkey Shoulder
>Rye: Rittenhouse
>Bourbon: OGD 114/McKenna if found for $30

Fite me

>>11221708
>Monkey Shoulder
Good shit. I tried a sample at my local bar a few days ago.

>>11218078
>tulla over paddy's

no

If I don't want to water the drink down can I throw the bottle in the fridge instead of using ice cubes

>>11221962
Buy whisky stones you fucking pleb

>>11221971
.....and how is that different from refrigeration?

>>11222045
Why do you think they call it on the rocks?

Your dram doesnt stay cool very long with stones though. But who the hell puts their whiskey in the fridge?

>>11220362
Is that just a cognac thing or does it apply to all french brandies

>>11217983
Glen livett 12 years, good scotch
Evan Williams black label. Good cheap bourbon

>>11222380

No, that's just a very American opinion from someone who's only heard of brands asian dictators drink, probably never had good cognac.

Most spirits are shit at the bottom shelf, whiskey is quite blessed that even cheap whiskey is tolerable.

>>11221962
pebbles or whisky stones if you want to fall for the mineral jew. please don't put whisky in the fridge, refrigerating spirits dulls its flavor quite significantly.

>>11222235
>Why do you think they call it on the rocks
That's whiskey with ice cubes you dumbass

>>11217983
If you want something in the same price range but better, try this.

>blended

>>11219320
cool history lesson, anon.

>>11223395
>Irish single malt

>>11219296
>>11219315
>>11219340
ok this is epic, checked the price at the store today, €14 for 700 ml bottle of four roses
they also have bandwagon for €18 i think, wild turkey, are those any good?

>>11223395
Hard to find cheap single malt. Found pic related the other day though.

Taketsuru pure malt

>>11218258
>tfw the LCBO only carries a small selection
>tfw you own a bottle of each (except the one that can only be bought in cases of 12)

>>11225118
I'll take you: any jap whisky if you send me lot40 cask strength

>>11225670
*trade
stupid fucking autocorrect

>>11223395
Blended doesn't always mean bad Scotch. It usually just means more balanced. Most blended scotch won't have a strong smokey component, for one.

A true partrician makes his own blends. My uncle's favorite is a nice peaty Bowmore 12 yr mixed 1:1 with Macallan 12 sherry cask. Also, Johnny Blue is an exceptional whisky (albeit one most of us will never get to try, and somewhat overpriced still), and it's still a blend.

Still like the Laphroaig 10 a lot, even after tatsting more expensive whiskys.

>>11220426

Hey I have that in the fridge right now. What am I in for?

>>11225718
I love to blend my whiskies. Especially Ryes and Scotch.

>>11225936

If you don't drink Famous Grouse you don't know SHIT about scotch.

>>11226336
I am going to the liquor store tomorrow and buying a bottle of medium-low priced single malt or blend. preferably blend

tell me why i should buy famous grouse. i usually drink regular ass dewars

>>11226336
>>11226479
great argument

>>11218041
Are you retarded?

Was gonna have a few sips of pic related a few weeks ago, ended up downing about two thirds of the bottle and waking up with a killer hang over. Pretty decent stuff.

>>11219658
>>11219838
cognac is 100% pure nigger-tier drink, only niggers get it and nobody else.

t. 7 years in grocery

>>11227021
niggers don't spend $150 on a bottle of XO cognac, they buy hennessy VS and spend the rest on weed and limited edition sneakers

>>11226893
based

>>11227021
>>11227042
side note: why to only beaners get buchanan scotch?

>>11227078
I'm a dirty europoor talking out of their ass so someone feel free to correct me but my understanding is that it's relatively expensive and considered exotic in mexico and it makes cholos feel rich and classy

>>11227048
>1792
>anon
>makes these posts
>based based poster
my nigger

>>11224103
buy a small 100mL bottle if you can at first to see what you like best damn it. you may hate something you buy in a 700mL bottle that you could have tried first for a fraction of the cost.

>>11227193
small tester bottles are rare here, thanks though

Lagavulin 16 and hibiki masters select. Gud shit

Highland Park 12 is pretty good. Their cask strength even better.

>>11225670
>mfw price is going from $70 to $100 for 1 year less rye at 3% higher proof
Fuck Hiram Walker for this shit. I'm glad I got 2 bottles last year before prices soared up.
>>11225750
Get the 10CS if you can, its literally worlds better then standard 10 which I find boring.
>>11226336
>t. pissdrunk Scot
Famous Grouse is shit and every single malt OB coming from the blend producers (Macallan, Highland Park, Glenturret, Glenrothes) are 99% shit 99% of the time.
>>11226893
>tfw ER17 year is gonna be 101 proof
The only time Sazerac has done anything right after they fucked up Weller Craft Your Own Bourbon.
>>11227505
HP hasn't had a cask strength for over a decade. I got a 17 year IB coming in from Germany soon though, very excited for it!

>>11227648
Not sure if you're memeing me, but I can get HP cask strength here in Scandinavia for sure. Pic related, 35cl same as the one on whiskybase.

>>11222235
>>11221971
They're terrible. Don't buy whiskey rocks.

>>11227021
Thats why I drink Armagnac

>>11219378
Suntory is a massive conglomerate. They own many of the famous Japanese distilleries like the Hakushu and Yamazaki. They also produce the Hibiki.
Other than that there's Nikka.

In fact, looking through Wikipedia I just discovered that Laphroaig is literally owned by a subsidiary of Suntory (as are several other well known brands).

>>11227648
>HP hasn't had a cask strength for over a decade

>>11229189
Charge your phone quick!

>>11229060
What's the palate difference?

bump

Anyone wanna suggest me what to get from my local supermarket? They're having 25% off off spirits today, so I might wanna use that.
>https://www.interspar.at/suche.html#whisky
>https://www.interspar.at/suche.html#whiskey
Current fav is Laphroig, so something similar is probably a safe bet, but I'm open to experiments.

>>11231758
Ardbeg

>>11231771
Yeah, that one is on my list.

>>11219658
Cognac is nice too, but yeah it has a sever image problem because of >>11219838
Even if Hennesy was the best cognac in the world and had a great price, I wouldn't drink it because of it's tainted image.
But taste wise, cognac is nice too. Also a fantastic cooking ingredient, deserts or savory.
Also (and you'll probably ridicule me for that) I use it to replace red wine, when I don't want to open a bottle that I will have to keep around for a while until I can drink it. A third each mix of cognac, balsamic vinegar and water works surprisingly well.
Currently have pic related and I'm quite happy with it. Maybe I'll see if the 10€ more for the VSOP are worth it.

>>11217983
Start cheap and work yourself up. That way you learn to appriciate finer whiskeys. Start with King robert or lord clovert. Both are mild (and dissapointing (you will most likely end up using them for grog)) Then go for single malts and finer schotch. find what you like. In the end you will end up with bourbon for 50$

>>11232133
>Currently have pic related and I'm quite happy with it. Maybe I'll see if the 10€ more for the VSOP are worth it.
have tried both the vs and vsop, the latter is noticeably more mellow but courvoisier's bottlings tend to a little harsher (or the raw alcohol in the spirit is more noticeable, shall I say - I still very much enjoy the flavour) than its contemporaries in my opinion.

You inspired me to get smashed on some tilly op, cheers

>>11218012
Johnny walker Green.

>>11217983
Old Camp whiskey, don't listen to the fags that say you need a $200 bottle or the Jack Daniels boomers.

Is it possible to buy like a variety testing pack for different booze? Like a bunch of small bottles with different brands.
I've never really tried liquor except vodka and rum, and I don't want to buy a bunch of bottles just to taste and not like any of them. I've never tasted whiskey for example.

>>11233288
Most liquor stores in the states offer mini plastic bottles of popular scotches and other whiskies

>>11219552
Based

>>11233304
Not in the states, but looking online at our country-wide booze shop I see 5cl bottles of these that would most likely be in storage in my little town
>The Famous Grouse
>Jack Daniels
>Jameson
>Old St. Andrews Par 3

Any good? Next up is 20cl, and it's a bit much before I even know if I like whiskey.

>>11233342
Jack and Fanous Grouse are shit. Jameson is worth a try. Idk about Old St. Andrews.

Tullamore Dew is a fantastic Irish whiskey that’s commonly sold in 5cl bottles. Glenfiddich (mid- tier scotch) comes in small bottles as well. So does Johnny Walker Red (not the most impressive but not bad by any means. It’s easy on the tongue and good for beginners)

>>11233372
Alright I'll look for those, thanks.

>>11220288
Cognacs all taste the same. I can hardly tell the difference between houses. The style rules are too stringent.

>>11225718
Blue is way over priced. Green is better, but still not spectacular for the price.

>>11217983

>>11235854
That label makes it look like pre-workout powder

>>11234638
>Anti-Brexiter Germcuck
Horst needs to fuck off.