/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11199905
what is this blasphemy and do you shop with a motorized cart ?

>>11199905
>tater tot casserole
Not many know this but there is in fact a 10th circle of hell reserved solely for those who attempt to pass this off as food

>>11199905
peas carrots and onions are the only acceptable vegetables

>>11199905
Corn and green beans for me, but I also throw some onions and garlic in while I'm browning the beef.

Also I put a layer of shredded cheese directly under the tots before baking

>>11199923
It's a hot dish.
>>11199905
I just dump a pack of frozen mixed birds eye veggies in there. People who claim to hate this dish are delusional and completely up their own ass. Eating a big bowl of it with a couple beers and a football game while it snows a shit load outside is the comfiest state you could be in

Immigrant to USica here.
Would I lose my acquired citizenship and be deported back to my home country if I made this with fresh vegetables instead of tinned? What about frozen? I'm imagining this is basically a shepherd's pie with a tot crust rather than a mash crust, have I got that right? My shepherd's pie is made with the vegetables suggested by >>11199928
I use fresh onion and carrots, but frozen peas. It's basically millionbof with orange and green bits in it, baked with mash on top.

>>11199905
When I was a kid one million years ago my mom made this with canned green beans, onions, and a tomato based sauce that probably involved Campbell's tomato soup. Sometimes with mashed potatoes (and cheese if we were lucky) on top. I've actually never had the style in the picture. What's the sauce? Cream of mushroom soup?

>>11199972
weak bait even by/ck/ standards

>>11199972
It's more like canned greenbeans/peas, store bought ground beef and layers of kraft singles, topped with frozen tater-tots. It's a flyover staple. You'll only need to worry about this abomination if you're between the states of Ohio and Utah.

If potatoes are sliced thinly and used as a separating layer they're actually pretty go-
>canned vegetables
>Canned
>Not using fresh veggies instead of shit that's either sloppily wet or has enough sodium for the entire dish in even a single can

Tater tot casserole is alright in my book though, just gotta make it very rarely to avoid the beetus

>>11199905
When I first found out Americans called em tater tots I thought the name was funny.
Fucking love them though

>>11199988
How could I possibly be baiting? Are you well, Anon?

>>11199990
I don't hate canned peas but canned green beans are an abomination unto the Lord. I'm sure it's somewhere in Leviticus.
>store bought ground beef
As opposed to garden grown ground beef?
Honestly, it doesn't sound horrible. it sounds like something a working mother would have made in the 60s/70s and here 60s/70s-born daughters continue to make.

>>11199990
I should have known that was American cheese.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm entirely comfortable with using American cheese in some situations. Like cheeseburgers, basic grilled cheese sandwiches, and bologna sandwiches. Fight me.

Here's how I'd make four portions:
beef mince, 80% lean, 14oz
flour, 4tbsp
onion, chopped, 7oz
beef stock powder, 2tbsp
carrot, shredded, 7oz
peas, from frozen, 7oz
Water, 2cups
Tater tots, as necessary to cover

In an oven safe pan, crumble cook the mince over medium-low/low heat to render its fat then remove from the pan, keeping fat behind.
Up the heat to high and, stirring constantly, cook the flour until about the colour of peanut butter.
Add the onion, stock powder and cooked beef.
Off the heat and keep stirring until the sizzling stops.
Stir in the carrot and peas and up the heat back to high.
Stir in the water and whip about to dissolve the flour.
Top with tots and bake in oven preheated to 350f until tots are browned.
Serve hot.

How's it sound? Bad? Good? Lawful evil?

>>11199905
Is it Minnesota or Michigan or that whole area up there where yall call things a hot-dish instead of a casserole?
Either way, looks tasty, OP. Try not to eat that kind of stuff too often though, ok?

>>11200104

I like green vegetables, but I can't imagine them working too well in hotdish (except for maybe peas).

This is what I have so far:
>tater tots
>cream of mushroom soup
>ground meat (beef is the most common, but I'm considering pork sausage instead)
>diced onions
>peas?
>mix of mozzarella, cheddar, and parmesan cheeses
I'm actually having second thoughts about the cheese, and I'm seriously lacking in vegetables.

>>11200104
You can still call casseroles "casserole." Only hotdish isn't called "casserole," despite fitting many of the criteria.

It's kinda like how cheesecake isn't called "pie," even though it very much checks all the boxes.

>>11199923
it's objectively food, though
brainlet

>>11199905
cream of mushroom, french green beans, no cheese. sometimes onions. i have never seen it with peas or carrots. my grandma would make it with corn when i was a wee tot, and it would ruin the flavor.

Many Americans eat meat & potatoes with some kind of sauce or gravy, and some mixed vegetables. This is a standard American dish.

But when it's in hotdish form, why do people get up in arms about it?

>>11200630
it's probably the same people who get mad when their peas and mashed potatoes are touching.

>>11199905
Mushrooms and green beans. Fuck dude, you're making me want to cheat my diet so bad right now.

>>11200630
I can't speak for everyone, but the "hotdish" version is sterotypically awful quality. It's canned soup that tastes of nothing but salt. Canned peas or beans (horribly overcooked with that "army green" color), and then a bunch of ingredients--some overcooked already, some not--are thrown together and then cooked again. It tastes of fail and salt.

Now the idea isn't so bad if you use fresh veggies, ditch the shitty canned soup and use fresh cream, sauteed mushrooms, and good seasoning instead. Don't fuck anything up by overcooking it. Do that and it's fine. The problem is that rarely anyone does that.

>>11199998
>not using frozen

>>11199905
>your favorite canned vegetables
I bought it until this, op
Nice try otherwise

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H31bBU4EL44

I'm in Orr. It's basically Canada. Watch the video.

My dad used to make this when mom was out of town because she thinks it’s abhorrent. His was just ground beef, spices, cream of mushroom and tator tots on top. It’s pretty good saturated in hot sauce.

>>11200674
I can't even eat hotdish. The food keeps touching. I like military plates, I'm a military man, I want a military meal. I want my string beans to be quarantined! I like a little fortress around my tater tots so the ground beef doesn't invade my tater tots and cause mixing in my plate! I HATE IT when food touches! I'm a military man, you understand that? And don't let your food touch either, please?

>>11201340
>I am severely autistic.

>tater tots
Just eat French fries like a normal person.

>>11200559
Wait, so hotdish specifically refers to "tater-tot casserole"?

>>11200559
>educating retards
Not sure who's more retarded KEK

>>11201861
No, hot dish is just a midwestern moniker for casserole. There's no difference besides semantics (and maybe cultural assumptions about what belongs in it)
t. Garrison Keillor

>>11201861
Not that one dish specifically. Hotdishes are a subset of casseroles. Every hotdish is a casserole but not every casserole is a hotdish.

>>11200704
this is true.

>>11201340

Spoken like someone who has a ghillie suit for hiding in the couch.

>>11200021
He means bought at the grocery and not from a butcher

>>11199905
I've lived in Minnesota my whole life (except for when I leave it sometimes) and I've never had totdish. My parents never made it, and the name, smell, and ground meat in general was too off-putting when other moms offered it. I've always had an aversion to ground meats.

>>11201902
You know it's possible to grind your own beef at home, right? They make these things called meat grinders? They're easy to use. That way you know exactly what cut it came from. If your grandma could figure it out you can too.

Do people actually bother peeling carrots before putting them in stews?

>>11202162
I do, yes.