/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11143930
It will work fine for a while, the body is very good at reusing nutrients stored in fat and providing you source your meat well it is very nutrient dense. You need to make sure you eat offal and make stock with bones etc to get the most out of the diet. But at the end of the day, vegetables are good for you and are usually easier to digest, sometimes the brain just wants some quick energy from some starch and carbs. If you only eat meat you will likely need to adjust your lifestyle to allow for longer rest and digestion.

There's literally no reason to only eat meat unless you have a disorder like Jorden Petersons daughter.

>>11143930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIw2AN_-XU

>>11143976
>There's literally no reason to only eat meat unless you have a disorder like Jorden Petersons daughter.
Didn't she say she drinks bourbon though? I'd like to hear the reasoning for saying that carbs are bad but fermented carbs are fine.

>>11143976
>It will work fine for a while, the body is very good at reusing nutrients stored in fat and providing you source your meat well it is very nutrient dense. You need to make sure you eat offal and make stock with bones etc to get the most out of the diet. But at the end of the day, vegetables are good for you and are usually easier to digest, sometimes the brain just wants some quick energy from some starch and carbs. If you only eat meat you will likely need to adjust your lifestyle to allow for longer rest and digestion.
>There's literally no reason to only eat meat unless you have a disorder like Jorden Petersons daughter.

t. someone who has never tried it and doesn't know what they're talking about

>>11144158
>quoting the entire post for no reason
newfag pls go

>>11144157
>distilled ethanol is a carbohydrate

>>11144159
>>quoting the entire post for no reason
>newfag pls go


yfw

>>11144160
>alcohol isn't made from fermenting carbs
newb

>>11143930
Is that Archie Luxury?

>>11144165
but bourbon is not a fermented carbohydrate, it's made from fermented carbohydrates, there is a difference. carbohydrates are not present in the end product after the process of distillation dum dum.

>>11144167
I know all of that, I was just saying why is something made from fermenting carbs okay when they say carbs are bad. It's the same thing with people on the keto diet saying cream/cheese/butter is all fine but milk should be avoided because it has lactose.

>>11144170
ethanol is extracted from the carbohdrate base. there is no carbohydrates in the finished product, so why would someone who is against carbohydrates be against something that contains 0 carbohydrates just because it was the precursor.

>>11143930
some people seem to be intolerant to almost everything.
Most people are probably better off with plants in there diet. There is no single answer for everyone. Different people are different.

>>11143930
>has any of you actually tried this meme?
I don't see any reason to. Amylase in our saliva to start digesting starchy food points to us not being carnivores. I don't think that means we're herbivores though.

I'll eat meat once or twice a week, but more than that and I get sick of it. Most other meals have dairy of some kind, with whole grains, and lots of vegetables. Maybe if someone doesn't like dairy then they should be eating a bit more meat as a protein source, but any extreme diet (veganism, meat only, fruit only, etc.) is usually going to be missing something by including other fruit groups. Also, people just need to find what diet works best for them, people from different areas will have different dietary needs depending on what they evolved to eat, and even men and women will have different dietary needs.

>>11144185
We also have lipase in our saliva that is more potent that gastric lipase. indicating increased requirement to break down fats.... from meat.

if you eat vegetables, grains or any carb you're not gonna make it unfortunately.

>>11144197
>lipase in our saliva means we should be eating fat from meat
>amylase in our saliva doesn't mean we should be eating starch tho
Huh?

>>11144197
you're not going to make it no matter what you eat

>>11144185
>>11144201
The purpose of amylase in saliva is controversial in the scientific literature. It has virtually no effect on the digestion of starch relative to the amounts of amylase further down the digestive tract, so there is some other mechanism at work

>>11144197
Wild animals don't carry a lot of body fat so in an evolutionary context exposure to large amounts of saturated fat from animals is a novelty.

>>11144197
make it where? your on /ck/ not /fit/

>>11144197
We've evolved to die when our usefulness to the tribe runs out.

Calorie restriction would have made you a worse hunter/gatherer, but it might very well make you more likely to be a centenarian. Same argument applies for every other part of our diet, we are not optimizing for the same thing evolution did.

For me, it’s low test and diabetes

MOMMY!

>>11144275

>>11144238
>It has virtually no effect on the digestion of starch relative to the amounts of amylase further down the digestive tract
that doesn't really mean we're not supposed to eat starch, it just starts breaking down the sugars a bit. if you chew starchy food for a while it starts to taste sweet because of the amylase breaking down the sugars.

>>11143930
>one or two people have extreme autoimmune malfunctions and can /only/ eat meat
>because they're famous and talk about it, suddenly it's a fad diet

Jesus take the wheel

>>11144275
>Is 51
>has lower test than 19-39 olds
Gee golly gosh
And one man's test doesn't actually prove anything one way or another. You do know that, don't you?

>>11144380
His test levels are that of a literal soyboy

>it don matter!!!
Damage control. Eat your carbs, boys.

>>11144275
127 blood sugar is only barely out of range, though it is a bit concerning since you were fasting. there is still a pretty good chance you are not diabetic.

>>11144408
If it measured in at even 126 again he would literally be diagnosed as diabetic

>>11143930
I make a good steak, so I try to have at least one meal of purely protein (steak, eggs, and milk). You're going to get a high-carb meal somewhere so why not try a high(er)-protein diet?

>>11143930
I'm on it right now.
Just kickstarted ketosis yesterday with a kind of fast and mostly fat based intermittent fast
i feel amazing
wouldnt recommend for anyone else than neets tho, you keep having shitty lives

>>11143976
>hasnt heard of mct oils
>is literally absorbed close to fucking instantly
shits like crack compared to refined sugar

>>11143976
>vegatables are easier to digest
Full retard. Red meat is the easiest food to digest. Not that veggies dont have their benefits but this is just plain fucking wrong and facebook tier.

>>11144157
the diet restricts "most" other alcohols, but burbon doesnt cause any flare ups for her condition
and is carb free

>>11145733
Makes sense if it's because of a medical condition then, and not because she thinks carbs are inherently bad.

>>11144275

>>11146429
>dairy cripples test
Well established

Vegans have higher test than all
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/

>>11146454
>Vegans had higher testosterone levels than vegetarians and meat-eaters
>but this was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin, and there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone
>SHBG levels are usually about twice as high in women than in men.
so vegans have higher levels of SHBG which is normally higher in women, and their bodies have to compensate by producing more testosterone just to maintain the same level as an omnivore.

>>11146526
Nope. Not how SHBG works

>>11146549
it's literally what the study you linked says

>>11143976
>vegetables are easier to digest
wtf

>>11146454

>>11143930
this dude looks like a hairy thumb

>>11146560
No it didn’t. That was you incorrectly guessing the metabolic function of shbg

>>11147491
Yes, vegetarians are dairy cucks and weak, vegans have high test >>11146454

>>11147526
Did you read it? Vegans have the lowest sperm concentration

>>11147526
>No it didn’t. That was you incorrectly guessing the metabolic function of shbg
>SHBG was significantly higher in the vegans than in the meat-eaters, leading to a corresponding increase in T in order to maintain constant levels of FT
Your study is saying that SHBG binds to testosterone so the body can't use it, and that vegans have more SHBG, so their bodies have to produce more testosterone just to maintain levels similar to what omnivores have. Can you actually explain why this is wrong, or are you just hoping to deflect by saying NO over and over?

>>11147572
do you know what concentration is? it doesnt correspond directly to sperm count or size

>>11147697
are you guys arguing that its a bad thing that our endocrine system is functioning well? itd be more concerning if it couldnt produce normal test levels

meme diet but keto is actually useful for diabetics and binge eaters

>>11147738
My sperm size is HUGE. Benching 3 plates.

>>11146454
isn't test anty inflammatory and aren't the meat people saying that carnivore diet eliminates inflammation causing substances?

I wanted to try it, but if i up the protein intake i get constipated really hard.
I can't even do low carb because of it, i'm fucked.

>literally stepping DOWN the food chain just to eat carbage
>literally giving up apex predator status
>living your life sheepmode instead of wolfmode
I shiggity diggity doo familia.

How do I go full carnivore when I’m a poorfag?

there is LITERALLY no evidence to support their claims that a carnivore diet is even healthy

meanwhile there is an abundance of evidence proving that protein restriction increases lifespan, and all the groups of people who live the longest lives have diets rich in grains, fruits, and vegetables

really gets the ole noggin joggin

>>11147959
All keto diets are zero/low carb, but not all zero/low carb diets are keto.

Even if you were on carnivore diet, eating too much meat, especially lean meats such as chicken, can kick you out of ketosis.

Ketogenic diet, who follow it for reason like epilepsy prevention, have keep their macros extremely strict. 80% of the calories MUST come from fat. the rest 10-20% from protein and trace carbs.

Even if you would eat zero carbs, you can kick yourself out of ketosis by eating too much protein.

>>11144278
Is that Mikhaila? I thought she was blonde.

>>11147791
keep ducking my argument

>>11148746
formerly brunette

>>11148402
There's really no "abundance" of evidence. Meat being unhealthy is pretty much debunked at this point. There are links between a varied diet and lifespan but that can be explained by the fact that they live generally healthy lifestyles

We can't really assume anything about a carnivore diet

>>11143976
>There's literally no reason to only eat meat unless you have a disorder like Jorden Petersons daughter.

It's not like she had double blind food allergy tests, she just tried something and she thinks it works. Could just have been some deficiencies or food allergies which could have been fixed with minimal changes. Or psychosomatic.

I hope she takes some supplements though. Meat isn't that complete, especially without organ meats and marrow. Otherwise she's going to run into a wall when reserves run out.