/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>vegan
ever wonder why you're getting those headaches in the first place you goddamn moron

>>11138565
stop being trollbait you retard

Almost as good as my anorexia cheat days

>>11138563
>3 patties on top of sloppy joe mystery meat

enjoy your stomach cancer faggot

>>11138612
Cancer does not exist. I have never had cancer. Not once.

this is something i see vegan faggots doing unironically

>>11138563
One thing always confuses me about /ck/ and 4chan in general. Do you all legitimately forget that vegetarians exist and honestly believe vegan/normal are the only two options?

>>11138566
stop being trollbait-trollbait you retard

>>11138563
my god I want

>>11138563
If you cheat as a Vegan you will lose your special vegan powers.

Namely the ability to annoy the shit out of normal people within 3 words of a conversation.

>>11138645
This is what I hate about 4chan these days. Everything has to be seeped in five layers of irony.

>>11138683
faggot

>>11138768
:(

>>11138768
>>11138853
Damn, that seemed genuine...

>>11138642
Vegetarians are fine. I could be a vegetarian if that's something I wanted to do, but being Vegan is absolutely, fucking retarded.

>>11139032
>im too weakwilled and wayyy too stupid to learn how to eat healthy food
Stay fat

>>11139194
yeah man eggs and milk so unhealthy

What's your favorite burger recipe video on YouTube /ck/?

>>11138683

fuck I meant to (you) >>11138768 and now I'm the faggot

>>11139194
>having a diet that doesn't force you to take vitamin supplements is retarded
I knew vegans were delusional but this is a new low

Why are carniecucks so short?

>>11139500
The average omnivore has more vitamin deficiencies than the average vegan. Try again after some research.

>>11138683
*raises paw*
But without that 5th layer of irony we wouldnt even have nonstop vegan threads under 3 layers of disinfo and falseflagging. Then what we would do, nya~, talk about fast food and poorfag food all day? Count meow-t if you think thatd be anywhere near as fun

>>11140206
That simply comes from the fact that most omnivores don't care about their health whereas most vegans do. It still doesn't change the fact that omnivores who care about their health are better than both other groups, nor the fact that veganism is deficient from the get-go.

>>11139194
you do realize that pretty much every single veggie that we eat today has been genetically modified to high fuck? During millions of years of evolution, humans weren't eating plants, they were eating meat and blood.
i just made pic related for your viewing pleasure

>>11138683
It's not that difficult to deal with, just make sure you aren't ever sincere about anything.

>>11140825
>Genetically modified
Lol. You mean selective breeding?

>>11140825
i want a vegan to refute this. All of those "natural" veggies you eat were basically inedible for all of human evolution. It follows, then, that the bulk of human evolution occurred on a carnivorous diet, because it was a lot easier to catch a fish or spear a boar than it was to gather a calorifically and nutritiously equivalent amount of vegetables. The clear conclusion is that humans have evolved to eat meat, and that those "healthy, natural" vegetables that you eat are in fact anything BUT natural.

>>11140834
selective breeding is genetic modification. By the way, most modern vegetables have had DNA from other organisms spliced in, making their genetic modification much much more impactive.

Now, if you can stay on topic and actually refute >>11140836 without using logical fallacies, I'd love to hear it

>>11140836
>all those natural veggies were inedible
Wrong. Really just starches and legumes but even then we sprouted legumes and eventually cooked them

>making foods edible is a bad thing
Lol evolutionary luddite short end, but sure continue to eat shit in your loincloth because muh nature!!!

>follows, then, that the bulk of human evolution occurred on a carnivorous diet, because it was a lot easier to catch a fish or spear a boar than it was to gather a calorifically and nutritiously equivalent amount of vegetables
Literally wrong on every account

>hurrr durrr we wuz carnivores n sheet!!
Yawn

>>11138642
Pretty much everything vegan related on here is bait

>>11140836
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/food-for-thought-was-cooking-a-pivotal-step-in-human-evolution/

>>11140843
>selective breeding is genetic modification.
Agreed 100%.

>By the way, most modern vegetables have had DNA from other organisms spliced in
Now that is nonsense. Can you give a SINGLE example of such a product that is actually sold for human consumption? (I assume by "other organisms" you mean "other than plants")

>>11140867
Incase anyone believes this person.

>>11140867
>well technically they ARE edible, they're just devoid of significant amounts of nutrients
>mangling the DNA of plants to make them larger and more colorful = evolution
>gathering 60 lbs of grass seed is easier than trapping a pig
>posts pic that says the optimal human diet is vegan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

>>11140903
Do you believe sv3riges videos on flat Earth as well?

>>11140890
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/how-to-make-a-gmo/

>>11140899
>monkeys on rare occasions consume meat therefore deviate from a frugivore diet and biology

>>11140903
>backtracking
>beans and grains are devoid of nutrients
>he thinks cooking starches to increase bioavailability and edibility is different than cooking meat to kill bacteria to make it edible
>pumping cows full of hormones and artificially inseminating them so they can be chopped up by a butcher and flown to a supermarket is evolution
>he thinks plants dont exist in the wild
>he thinks trapping one pig feeds an entire tribe and requires minimal effort
>muh youtube pop science bloggers

>>11140923
of course not. Do you have a refutation to anything I'm saying, or just logical fallacies?
I genuinely can't figure out if vegans are really too stupid to form a logical argument, or if they know that they're wrong so they intentionally try to derail the argument with emotion and nonsense

>>11140934
>>11140941
perfect example of what vegans thing is an "argument".

>>11140928
>willfully misunderstanding everything he said
>implying that antiveganism is an endorsement of modern animal husbandry
>miniscule prehistoric grains and beans were a great source of nutrients, much better than a fish or deer (pic related is a wild bean lol)
>implying antivevanism means you think cooking is bad
>implying antiveganism means you think plants don't exist
nice.
go into nature and try to survive on a vegan diet.

>>11140928
>Chimps, even horses, eat meat but humans shouldnt

>>11140971
>what vegans thing

>gets utterly BTFO
>hurrr durrr veguns xD

>he

>willfully misunderstanding everything he said
I didn’t do any of that. This is just you coming to a self realization of how retarded you are

>implying that antiveganism is an endorsement of modern animal husbandry
Didnt say that at all. Why are you willfully misunderstanding what im saying? You began equating veganism with all this naturalism nonsense to begin with

>miniscule prehistoric grains and beans were a great source of nutrients, much better than a fish or deer (pic related is a wild bean lol)
Why do you continue to willfully misunderstand what I say? I literally never implied that. And despite that, they did become important as soon as fire and by extension cooking came about, grains were sprouted and mashed even before cooking

>implying anti veganism means you’re anti cooking
Willfully misunderstanding again

>implying antiveganism means you think plants don't exist
You’re really just desperate at this point huh? Shitty argument that got BTFO so you just have to pretend i said something different

>MUH NATURE
*smugly types from his computer after buying a baconator from wendys*

>>11140983
Chimps and horses eating meat is abnormal for them and their bodies, just like it is for humans :)

>>11141006
Don’t shame the chimp. He’s as entitled to his vegan cheat day as you are.

>>11139432
>and now I'm the faggot
you always were, bro... you always were

>>11141006
>Abnormal
They hunt my dude

>>11141022
Is that supposed to disprove my point or something?

>>11141023
yes

>>11141001
i can't tell if you're trolling or just genuinely retarded. You literally haven't produced a single good argument, just 50 IQ responses to deliberate misunderstandings of what I said- which, coincidentally, is exactly what I predicted from vegan "arguments".
Small example:
(you) said this: ">he thinks plants dont exist in the wild"
I said this: ">implying antiveganism means you think plants don't exist"
(you) said this: "You’re really just desperate at this point huh? Shitty argument that got BTFO so you just have to pretend i said something different "
really makes you think, although that might be difficult for vegans because your malnourished brains aren't getting any cholesterol from plants

>>11141023
how retarded is the person who made this chart

>>11141023
Except chimps also eat meat you masisive fucking retard.

>>11141284
>durrrr veguns xD

You got thoroughly BTFO. You haven’t uttered a single thing that could be construed as a rational thought

>>11141286
Less retarded than the failed miscarriage that is you

>>11141314
>DURRR LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF LE MONKEY EATING MEAT XDDD

God you retards have never even graduated middle school have you?

>>11141023
>>11140867
if veganism is natural then why are there so many nutrients that you can only get from animals and animal products?
just admit it, it's an unnatural diet but you're following it because you don't think it's moral to kill an animal

>>11141325
>>11141317
this has to be bait. it fucking has to, I refuse to believe vegans are this goddamn retarded
refer to this prophetic post: >>11140934

>>11141325
You can't argue with ad hominems, anon. Just suck it up and accept that you're wrong. You're anonymous, you can still leave with your dignity intact.

>>11141328
>>11141334
>If veganism is natural
Why do you continue to completely make up arguments nobody made? Is it because your own argument has absolutely zero merit and got totally BTFO for being a complete and total 3rd grade level strawman?

>muh nature
Refer to this prophetic post! >>11141001

>nutrients you can get only from animals
Such as?

>>11141340
>please show me mercy big strong vegan!
yikers