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11131586 No.11131586 [Reply] [Original]

Why is cooking so difficult?
Burnt is a bad taste and I don't like it.
I wish I was wealthy enough for more tries.

>> No.11131589

>>11131586
Scrape that shit with a butter knife.

>> No.11131588

>>11131586
Hold your grilled cheese over the trash and scrape the burnt layer of bread off the top with a butter knife.
It works and will save your sandwich for the most part. Next time don't use such a hot pan.

>> No.11131615

>>11131588
>>11131589
Will do. The pan was the problem? I just put it on medium heat like I do everything.

>> No.11131619

>>11131615
Grilled cheese needs to cook slowly. The bread will burn before your cheese melts if the heat is too high, which is what happened to you. Next time use a very very low heat and be patient, use plenty of oil. You want the cheese to heat up and become gooey through the bread, without burning the bread. Good luck next time.

>> No.11131638

>>11131619
Oil?
I used butter. Wouldn't the bread absorb the oil making it a nasty sponge?
Thank you.

>> No.11131667

>>11131638
You can use whatever kind of oil you like - I use butter myself too. The bread will absorb melted butter the same as it will absorb liquid oil, some people also use mayonnaise and swear by it. The difference I guess is that you don't really have liquid cold butter. If you put bread in a cold pan with cold oil it would absorb it, as long as the oil is hot whatever you use, it'll be fine.

>> No.11131954

>>11131615
"Like I do everything"
That's the problem, think a little first next time

>> No.11132061

>>11131667
>Mayonnaise
God tier paninis always have Mayo on the outside before pressing

>> No.11132091

>>11131667
... Hot oil has more energy, which makes it less viscous, which in change makes it easier for oil to move around between the gaps and pores of bread, so it gets absorved easilier.

Are you literally retarded?

>> No.11132144

>>11132091
That's not how cooking chemistry works whatsoever, stop trolling the poor OP.

>> No.11132328
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11132328

>These fail ass chefs don't know how to make a deluxe grilled cheese
https://youtu.be/yq7_s8Y6uG8

>> No.11132335

Flip it before it burns on one side, better to have unmelted cheese than black bread.

>> No.11132338

Why do people always think you need to get the pan ripping hot for a grilled cheese like you're cooking a fucking steak, and then get surprised when it comes out burnt
Low and slow is always best

>> No.11132354

>>11132328
I get sad every time I see this poor bastard's videos. He seems to be doing okay in his situation, but the thought of some old guy struggling by without the means or energy or money for proper ingredients is saddening.

>> No.11132355

>>11132091
>... Hot oil has more energy, which makes it less viscous, which in change makes it easier for oil to move around between the gaps and pores of bread, so it gets absorved easilier.

sure, but what's your point? Even cold oil is easily absorbed by bread. The difference in viscosity, while real, doesn't fucking matter since even cold oil is readily absorbed.

>> No.11132358

>>11132354
Why do people think he is poor? If his wife died he probably got some kids insurance money and laat I checked he has a solid stock portfolio

>> No.11132762

>>11132328
What does the flour add?

>> No.11132777

>>11131615
there is a reason there are different temperature settings you unit

>> No.11132798

>>11132777
It works with everything else.

>> No.11133611

>>11131615
Low retard. Also use mayo

>> No.11133615

>>11131586
So you stood there, watching the bread burning, but it never occurred to you to take it off. Honestly I think you should just kill yourself.

>> No.11133627

>>11133615
Of course not. I was putting the bread back.

>> No.11133776
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11133776

>>11133611
>use mayo
drink bleach

>> No.11133779

>>11133611
I like the sweet taste butter gives. I'm not big on mayo.

>> No.11133826
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11133826

The patrician way is actually to fry cheese on the outside of the sandwich. It's actually pretty difficult to burn cheese. Although you should probably just adjust your heat to a lower setting.

>> No.11133844

>>11133826
The cheese is burnt in the op picture.

>> No.11133861
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11133861

>>11133844
That's wrong though. The bread is burnt. The only cheese is clearly between the slices of burnt bread.

>> No.11133873

>>11133627
Bless your heart. Your heat was too high. Let your lack of grilled cheese help you remember. Medium heat. 5 heat units out of 10. Cover the pan with a lid to keep the heat in to melt the cheese without the use of ridiculous heat.

>> No.11133903

>>11133861
The orange on the left of the bread is cheese. I know. I made it.
>>11133873
I used the middle option. I always do. I didn't use a lid though. That could be it.

>> No.11133927

>>11133903
It burned because you walked away and lost track of time. The lid is definitely a pro-tip though. You can get really lightly browned bread with still melty cheese in the middle.

>> No.11133942

>>11133903
The cheese isn't burnt, it's fried. Like I said, it's difficult to burn cheese, especially to the degree the bread is.

>> No.11134173

>>11132798
I bet you make a real bad steak

>> No.11134187

>>11134173
They aren't awful. Just rare.

>> No.11134249

>>11133627
I don't even know what this sentence is supposed to mean.

>> No.11134266

>>11134249
I was putting up the bread instead of watching the food.

>> No.11134272

>>11134266
For an onlooker, what the fuck does "putting up the bread," mean. In English, please.

>> No.11134280

>>11134272
Guy you're fucking retarded. Or are you a sick person that doesn't cover his bread?

>> No.11134290

>>11134280
What are you putting up your bread up on exactly? Now, I've heard of it being thrown up on a griddle, but that's usually nomenclature reserved for people who actually have done it before.

>> No.11134301

How bad of a cook can you be to ruin a grilled cheese? A child can make a grilled cheese sandwich. Are you blind? Did you have your fucking eyes closed while you made it? Did you have shit shoved up your nostrils so you couldn't smell your bread being burnt to a crisp? Maybe your parents did everything for you were young, so now you're completely incompetent at cooking and surviving on your own. I'm sorry.

>> No.11134310

>>11131586
1. Wrap your uncooked grilled cheese in aluminum foil
2. Iron one side
3. Flip
4. Iron the other side

>> No.11134323

>>11134301
I can't smell anything. My allergies are really bad. I haven't made a grilled cheese before usually they're too unhealthy. But it was all I had.
As I said before I was putting up the bread while it was cooking.

>> No.11134338

>>11134323
What in the utter hell are you talking about? Use English, cuz you're bamboozlin' me boy.

>> No.11134369

>>11134338
Quit being a retard anon, he was putting the bread away. I imagine he has it somewhere high and that's why he's saying putting it up.

>> No.11134371

>>11134369
Bread goes on the counter, anon.

>> No.11134380

>>11134369
It can't take more than 30 seconds to put the fucking bread away. You're trying to tell me it got that burnt to shit in 30 seconds? Fuck off.

>> No.11134397

>>11134380
>Have to put bread back in container
>Have to find twist tie
>Have to apply twist tie
>Have to open pantry door
>Have to put bread on pantry shelf
>Have to close pantry door
Why can't you just accept things?

>> No.11134399

>>11134397
Kill yourself retard.

>> No.11134402

>>11134397
Could you not just wait to do that until after you finish cooking? Or even before you start cooking? No matter what that shouldn't take over a minute if you're not a paraplegic

>> No.11134409

>>11134402
Doing it before I start cooking is a good idea. Thank you.

>> No.11134414

>>11134409
Yeah, I like washing my dishes and throwing out my box of noodles before I boil the water too.

>> No.11134437

>>11134414
I swear to god people on this board must be aliens. Take out two slices of bread (5 seconds). Take out cheese and butter (10 seconds). Take slice of cheese, cut a slice of butter (15 seconds) Close/wrap up the cheese, butter, and bread (15 seconds). Put the cheese, butter, and bread back where they came from (15 seconds). It's that easy. You can do it all while the pan is heating.

>> No.11134444

>>11134397

>he doesnt just twist the bag and tuck the end part under the bread

Twist ties are entirely pointless. Even still, theres no way that takes longer than 30 seconds.

>butter bread w room temperature butter
>cheese between bread
>cold pan, sandwich in pan
>turn to medium
>by the time first side is grilled the cheese is mostly melted
>flip, toast the other side

Wow. Think you can handke that, genius??

>> No.11134446

>>11134437
I don't think it would take me more than 10 seconds to put bread away. Some people really just don't belong in a kitchen.

>> No.11134450

>>11134437
OR

JUST GET THIS

take out the slices of bread and then close it

>> No.11134453

>>11134444
I prefer to use the twist tie. Also I put everything else up too the cheese and butter and threw away the cheese paper thing.
I hear up the pan so it is warm as soon as the bread touches.

>> No.11134456

>>11134450
why complicate things?

>> No.11134459

>>11134456
It's more complicated to get more shit out before you finish the previous task, sequentially.

>> No.11134650

>>11134437
>Close/wrap up the cheese, butter, and bread
Fucking hell, we got the Flash in this thread.

>> No.11134666

>>11131586
To grill a sandwich, you should never need more than low heat. It can take a while, but at that temperature frequent checks won't hurt anything.

>> No.11134691

>>11134437
Alternatively, don't. The ingredients are going to run out after a while anyway. Then you don't have to put them anywhere. Never double handle, anon. Time is money.