/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>vegans who are against lab-grown meat
truly awful

>>11046908
What vegan is against lab grown meat wtf

>>11046978
The strawman, the worst vegan

>>11046978
Quite a few say we don't need meat to begin with, so it's pointless. And they say that keeping animals as "slaves" and collecting cells from them is still exploitation.

Not that there aren't meat-eaters against it too, but I'm pretty disappointed every time I see a vegan speaking against lab-grown meat.

Your move meatcuck

>>11047008
this just shows how morally bankrupt vegans act.

>>11047008
I guess a vegan can't accept the antivenom either since it's derived from animals.

>>11047037
Naturalistic fallacy for naturalistic fallacy. A ruse. It was meant to point out your lack of logic, but you're too stupid to see this. This is why I'm pointing it out to you.

Hey everyone, daily reminder that carnists are this stupid.

>>11047008
Excellent shit posting my dude.

>>11047047
Holy shit the accuracy in this post. Non sarcastic reply. They literally keep venomous animals locked away for the sole purpose of harvesting venom to cteate anti-venom. They do the same with poisonous plants to create anti-toxins

>>11047007
They need the smallest cell from animals to grow it. And they can seriously keep them on a nice farm and shit. Those vegans are retarded. My veg friend is stoked on lab grown meat

>>11047008
>ok i bit you that means you have to give up and die now
>sure thing mr. snek, thems the rules after all
cows could fight back if they wanted to but i know they won't cuz they're fuckin pussy ass bitches

>>11047275
Killing a pig is hard work, even with a bolt gun. Gotta fight that fat fuck every step of the way. Worth it though

>>11047008
Vegans can't meme

>>11046902
What Am I looking @

>>11047639
A frog trapped in a plant. The plant lures things like frogs to it, then they fall in and can't get out. They slowly die and the plant gets nutrition from it. inb4 "that's metal" or something similar, it's pretty sad seeing something slowly die like that.

>>11047669
You think it's better to be gone in an instant? I'd want to slowly fade out so I can truly embrace death.
Obviously starving to death or dying or dehydration isnt the same thing

>>11046902
You'd have to be pretty dumb to jump into a living stomach

>>11046902
>>11047669
metal

>>11047715
animals are pretty fuckin' dumb.

>>11047008

>>11047692
I work in an ICU and I can assure you that no, you don't want that, you edgy faggot. Not at all.

>>11047798
You should credit the other poster

>>11047821
I watched my grandpa pass away slowly from cancer and the changes he went through were mind blowing. The only part that really got bad was the last week or two. I would like to experience those emotions. He was also lucky enough to not be stuck with a bunch of shit head doctors and nurses around him 24/7

>>11047889
Yeah, who wouldn't want to shit his pants daily for a couple months "for the experience"?
If you think what he went through was worthwhile it either means the doctors and nurses did a great job of shielding you from the nasty stuff or, more likely, you're a a fucking retard.

>>11046999
Based

>>11047906
Knowing you're going to die soon is a very unique experience. Why wouldn't I want that before everything ends? You're flooded with all kinds of emotions. Life is suffering. I embraced that long ago. You should too.

>>11047100
Local vegan would consider not eating meat as more of a spiritual enhancement to themselves so that would hold regardless of origin

>>11047906
I get that your job is to end peoples suffering so it's harder for you to comprehend people who go against what you're trained for.

>>11047947
No, that other anon is right, you're an immature retard and you don't understand the difference between abstractly thinking about suffering vs. actually having to experience it for yourself.
When you do end up getting your first serious chronic disease / medical problems you'll realize how stupid you were being.

>>11047048
>vegans so nutrient starved they cannot correctly identify fallacious arguments

>>11047992
I might even off myself. But I'd rather have the time to choose to do so vs everything ending instantly.

>>11046978
The ones who do it for, "health".

>>11046902
bot poster

>>11047062
They get snakes to bite horses and harvest their antibodies.

>>11047947
Some people are going to say you're edgy and dumb, but a lot of people have said that bad trips on psychedelics when they thought they were going to die were the most meaningful trips they had. You're not wrong. But it'd be better to experience that artificially without actually having to die soon after so you can use that knowledge for something.

>>11047008
>if u make choice u cant make other choice haha btfo

vegan "arguments"

>>11048016
>a lot of people have said that bad trips on psychedelics when they thought they were going to die were the most meaningful trips they had
The difference there is you're just experiencing anxiety and then getting over it. In real life when you're seriously ill and dying, you can experience anxiety and get over it, but that's not going to make all the other horrible shit you're going through stop applying. You're still going to be puking and crapping yourself and in horrible pain which you'll try to deal with using powerful painkillers that will just make you feel sick and awful in new ways, and the medicines you're on will probably cause all sorts of pain, suffering, and bodily damage of their own, and even the basics you've always taken for granted like being able to fall asleep or eat solid food will no longer be there to comfort you. And also psychedelic trips usually don't last for months unless you really fucked up and somehow pissed off an illicit chemist badly enough that he applied the technology here to force you into a six month long time release psilocybin trip:
http://news.mit.edu/2016/new-capsule-long-term-drug-delivery-malaria-1116

>>11047008
Not a vegan, but it's interesting how the carnist argument that runs something like this crumbles:
>hurr durr, humans are the only sentient creatures
>instead of using our sentience to transcend our crocodile and other apex predator ancestors, let's embrace their mode of behavior as the ideal and feast on flesh
>i'm better than muh animals, but I'm going to behave like one anyway
See? You're nothing more than the animal you pretend to be above, ok?

>>11048117

Sapient. Along of creatures are scenient.

>>11048117
Cool story bro.

Now let's hear you justify the toxic waste disaster that is your electronic devices, especially the portable ones. Why aren't you "transcending" your phone toy?

>>11048145
The argument doesn't make any sense, he wasn't whining about toxic waste

>>11048145
Electronics improve living standards

Meat doesn’t

>>11048049
ominous

>>11048154
want me to connect the dots for you?

>>semiconductors and rechargeable batteries cause massive enviornmental harm to produce, both from the processes themselves and also mining the minerals used to make them. This causes animals, as well as human beings, to suffer and die. If anon is opposed to meat-eating for those reasons then I would assume anon is opposed to other things which cause the same end results.

>>11048009
So not vegan

>>11048160
Meat certainly does. It tastes good. It's very cost-effective. And it provides the most bioavailable sources of many vital nutrients. Not to mention that the byproducts of the meat industry have countless uses from cosmetics to other foods to medicine to clothing. (clothing which is far more eco friendly than synthetic plastics)

>>11048191
>Meat certainly does
Wrong

>It tastes good
Not an argument

>very cost effective
Wrong

>provides most bioavailable nutrients
Wrong again

>cosmetics
Not an argument

>medicine
There’s far more plant based medicines

>clothing
See above

Nice one.

>>11046999
That doesn't make sense

>>11048197
not an argument

try again sweetie

>>11048215
>One eats squirrel-sized rodents
gib nao

>>11048215
That little monkey thing is safe though. Too big to be eaten.

>>11048279
that's what your mom said about my dick but i still came down her throat

>>11048271
>>11048279
It actually attracts the rodent with a sweet smelling nectar. the rodent uses it as a bathroom. Then the smell of the rodent(through the feces) attracts slightly larger animals that prey on the rodent. Sometimes a small one will fall in, it's all the same to the plant. Now the pitcher plant in the bottom right; that thing eats mice, bats, and anything else that happens to fall into it.

>>11048300
https://youtu.be/_y9qiX1bdN4
Within the first 5 minutes or shows most of those plants. Audio is rigged to work via headphones and maybe other external audio output that way we get an uncut version that's copyright safe, as far as YouTube is concerned