/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11017325
Pepperoni pizza and burgers!

probably food?

>>11017325
mirin them calfs.

Probably a lot of gruel, porridge, bread, cabbage. Shit like that.

>>11017325
The weakest, slowest, and poorest peasants like you.
>pic related

Turnips and bread

>>11017325
shit

why do you think everyone had typhoid? you think chefs ever washed their hands?

>>11017325
pussy

>>11017325
Depended entirely on social standing and where one lived. Peasants would mostly eat porridge and bread. If they lived in coastal areas, they'd also eat tons of fish. Nobility had access to plenty of game and luxury dishes prepared with exotic spices.

>>11017330
She takes care of the place while the master is away.

*insert shill shitpost here*

>>11017338
ok, this? this reference is DEFINITELY going in my r/4chan post!

i heard nobility used bread trenchers as plates.

they'd then discard the trencher. WTF. that soggy trencher sounds like the best part!

>>11017359
The bread they used for trenchers was super salty and more like hard tack than bread, it was not meant to be eaten by people.
So they distributed it to the lower rung of society.

>>11017325
From what I've read of medieval recipes, a lot of things made with almond milk. Like, much more almond milk than you would expect to find in the recipes, as a layman. They used in in desserts and in some stew-style dishes. Apparently the wealthy went crazy for it, and it was used as a substitute for milk during Lent.

>>11017411
I always get a little disappointed when I hear stuff like that. Apparently pie crusts were a lot like that at first too. baked so hard, you'd only want to use the thing as a bowl, rather than eat it. Sounds kind of shitty. That kind of thing and the limited ingredients they had before the new world was discovered would probably made medieval food super disappointing to a modern American or European.

>>11017411
That doesn't make sense. Salt was rare. Wars were fought for it.

>>11017471
>salt was rare
No it wasn't, retard. It was valued higher than it is now because people used more of it. For their weird bread plates as well as for preservation.
Are you going to tell us how it was more expensive than gold next? Fucking Christ.
Let's meet down by the shore. I'll boil the water for salt and you'll do whatever you want with it to extract gold. Let's see who produces a pound first.

>>11017325
Bread (not just wheat, usually a mix of various crops, depending on what can be grown in the season/weather/in which rotating field). Between 750g and 1kg per person in the late middleages. Depending on the availability of mills and bakeries it could downgrade to simpler forms (pooridges and the likes)
Lots of wine by our standards. Clean water was hard to come by in big towns, it's caloric, and poor quality grapes could be easy cultivated around big cities like Paris - Today wineyards are only in places where the climate produces good wines.
Pastorial countryfolks ate a fuckton of cheese and various dairy products as you'd expect.
Surprisingly, an acceptable share of meat. I read the numbers of roughly 70 grams of meat per person per day that were imported in a secondary French countryside city.

>>11017471
Agreed with that. Most bread was simply unsalted, and I haven't heard trenchers being "bad bread", most likely just the crusty edge.

>>11017480
Salt evaporation was rarely done and refining brine won't produce salt for everybody. It was a big trading commodity and was often in shortages.

>>11017411
Not in eastern europe and scandanavia/finland though. the hard breads we have were specifically made to be trenched, then eaten

>>11017480
challenge accepted

>>11017328
Fuck off retard

>>11017490
I'm well aware that Middle Ages Europe tended to mine rather than evaporate salt and that it was a valuable commodity. But to say that a recipe "doesn't make sense" because there's a lot of salt in it is fucking retarded.

>>11017325
Giant turkey legs
Scotch eggs
Meat on a stick
Soup in bread bowls

>>11017511
I feel like you're having trouble connecting thoughts. Did you struggle much in school?

>>11017325
that is one fugly broad

All day erry day

This

If RuneScape taught me anything, medieval people ate cabbage and killed cows with swords in a one on one battle to the death.

>>11017325
They lived long lives eating gruel

>>11017523
I get the same impression of you actually.
Let's sum things up:
Someone said rich people used a lot of salt in their bread bowls.
Someone else, maybe you, said that doesn't make sense because salt was rare.
I said that people used a lot more salt back then and that's why it was highly valued, and that it's entirely possible one of the things they used it for was bread bowls for rich people.
An average person would go through something like a hundred pounds of salt in a year. They weren't eating all that, you know.
I pre-empted the claim I'm most tired of hearing, the one about gold. To anon's credit he hasn't actually tried to argue that retarded point but you're here focusing entirely on it rather than the main debate: bread bowls had salt in them sometimes.

>>11017530
is this really the absolute state of american “English”?

>>11017530
I used to have a really interesting cookbook from like 1400 on my Kindle but I can't find it now.
This stuff is genuinely interesting and I'd like to try some recipes

>>11017545
Nah, that's from Medieval Britain, and they still talk like that.