/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11006349
No stfu boomer

>>11006349
4 star hotel barman here

Vermouth is a misunderstood drink, and ignorance has lead it to be consistently one of the worst quality spirits in the bar.
Because nobody drinks it neat anymore, companies are selling anything that won't get them sued as vermouth.... And at the same time often charging spirit prices for a wine!

If the vermouth is so bad you can't mix it with vodka, this barman suggests either its not worth drinking or you simply don't like vermouth.

What brand is it?

>>11006392
i think i just dont like sweet vermouth, but the dry version is always great for my dirty vodka martinis

>>11006401
Nigger are you serious.

That's rosso, it's not sweet vermouth.
You don't use that in a Martini, you use it in a negroni or a manhatain

If you are using Martini brand sweet vermouth and just posted rosso, I hate the Martini sweet even more than the rosso/dry/extra dry.
Try making a martinez

As a Martini drinker myself I just use a good bottle of white wine and infuse it under pressure.... Or just find a fortified white wine you like

>>11006435
well, I usually use pic related, but I wanted to try a "perfect" martini which is supposedly equal parts dry and sweet vermouth. But I guess I got the wrong stuff?

>>11006535
There's white sweet vermouth and white dry vermouth. The perfect martini use those two, not the red stuff - that's for Manhattans and Negronis.

>>11006541
guess i better go to an upscale liquor store then, because my local supermarkets only ever have the extra dry and the rosso

I prefer rum for mine
Botanicals aren't for me

>>11006643
rum in a martini?

negroni
martinez

>>11006643
Is it really a Martini then?

>>11006645
>>11006731
Yes
Just use white rum
Well if I had to use gin id get beefeaters

>>11006401
Martini&Rossi is shit and the reason why so many people think they hate vermouth.

>>11006349
Manhattans.

>>11006349
>vodka martini

Absolute filth.

>>11006535
>But I guess I got the wrong stuff?
Not only that, but you bought the cheapest shit brand you could find. Skimp on price, skimp on quality.

>>11006886
>Yes
No. A martini glass full of rum isn't a martini, it's just a martini glass full of rum. Even if you add vermouth and olives, it's not a martini.

>>11006435
>rosso
>not sweet vermouth
Holy shit how can one man be so retarded

OP you made the "Perfect" martini correctly, its just a bad drink. I've never heard of someone actually enjoying one. Use the sweet vermouth for Manhattans and the Negroni family of drinks.

As for martini general, what gin does everyone like for Martinis? I really like Ford's right now.

>>11008355
Tanqueray Number 10 goes well for me.

For once /ck/ talks about gin! What’s in your bar right now?
For me, from least favorite to favorite:
>Generous Gin
>Opihr
>Gin madame del professore
>Plymouth
>Bombay Sapphire
>Bulldog
>Bombay Sapphire East
>Citadelle
>Tanqueray
>Hendricks
>Professor Cornelius Ampleforth’s bathtub gin
>Tanqueray Ten
>Ungava
>Howling Owl

>>11008524
>Professor Cornelius Ampleforth’s bathtub gin

I mean good damn, maybe it tastes good but the name is an annoyance.

Of that list I've had Bombay, bulldog, tanqueray and hendrix. I like Hendrix the best because of how floral it is. Are there any others like it? Hopefully less expensive?

>mfw I order extra dirty martinis
>literally just tell them I want olive juice and vodka
>don't want to feel pretentious so I ask if they can just serve it in a tumbler
Am I wrong?

>>11008645
Yeah it was even a chore to type it all lol. But the stuff is good!
Hendricks is really apart from the gins I know and have access to. Never tasted another one quite like it. But google says https://www.supercall.com/spirits/gin/gins-taste-like-hendricks

>>11008684
Its probably more pretentious if you mention what glass you want it served in at all

>>11008753
Literally how is that pretentious?

>>11006349
Dirty martinis are vastly better with gin instead of vodka. Fucking fight me.

>>11006886
theres people that think only gin qualifies for a martini, so theres no way rum qualifies

>>11006711
they sound interesting, but now i gotta go buy a bunch of other hard to find shit to make em

>>11007136
well, name some better brands then fuck face.
Most people arnt familiar with vermouth. I can name you 10 different vodkas, rums, gins, and bourbons, but only one or two brands of vermouth and obviously Im not alone.

>>11007495
if its good enough for james bond, also have fun with your soapy gin that taste like mold

>>11007515
know any better brands educated anon?

>>11008355
thank you ...I thought I was going crazy b4....also I havnt tried a gin martini in a long while, but maybe thats the missing ingredient that I was looking for when buying the sweet vermouth ha

>>11008524
ive only had a few of those, but it was always mixed with tonic. Got any good martini recipes for those fancy gins?

>>11008684
i used to do this all the time back in my bar hopping days. I only like martini glasses at home, or if im trying to impress an older lady. Otherwise, theyre too hard to maneuver with in a crowded bar with a bunch of drunks bumping in to you on your way back to your table.

>>11008684
should have told them to serve it in an olive jar