/ck/ - Food & Cooking

dumb frogposter

>>10986899
>t fatty

>>10986897
>what is T3 and T4
>what is glucogenesis
>what is basal and influenced metabolic rate
>what is muh pseudoscience

>>10986897
yeah that's how energy works, you're probably just mixing up what you intake vs spend. If it doesn't work that way for you go to the nearest science place and tell them you have broken every modern day law of energy and it is contained in your body.

>>10986909

>TFW my genetics can break physics

>>10986897
CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT
HANDS UP NOW HANDS DOWN
BACK UP BACK UP
TELL ME WATCHA GONNA DO NOW?

>>10986923
Sup Taker? How's ya hip?

>>10986932
huh?

Calories in, Calories in

>>10986923
KE-TOSIS TOSIS TOSIS
KE-TOSIS TOSIS TOSIS

You can always tell a poster is from /fit/ by their overinflated sense of self-importance and their skewed perception of how smart they actually are. They also take 4chan posts seriously for some reason.

>>10987048
jesus christ. how fat are you?

>>10987054
Case in point. Thankyou.

>>10987054
Got one.

>>10986911
I'm confused, how did you manage to read so far into OP? I thought he was implying he just had a shit.

>>10986897

>>10987025
Oh, you poor POOR thing.....
Fuck you.

>>10986911
Different cars use fuel with better or worse efficiency. Are they breaking the laws of physics?

>>10987134
HURRR DURRR MUH CARS fuck off

>>10987038
Nice one, Anon

>>10986909
muh thyroid, that's why I'm fat

>>10986897
based

If the fatties in this thread went for a run as quickly as they defended their obesity they wouldn't have a problem.

this thread fucking sucks.

>>10986909
Nobody mentioned a timeline.
Wait long enough, and it syncs man.
Ebb and flow.
Calories in, Calories out.

>>10986897
calories are literally a meme
the human body is a massively complicated mess of many systems, each of which work differently and respond differently to every type of substance
and every human body reacts slightly differently to every single one of those factors
and you can SOMEHOW come up with a magic number that abstracts "how fat this will make you" no matter what the food item is made of?
just think about it for half a minute, that's fucking stupid. Really just think about it

>>10987834

Why do the mexicans steal and culturally appropriate white culture so much? What happened to "brown pride?"

>>10987038
Nice.

>>10988268
Another fat assed burger self-identifies.

>>10987818
Fatties can't run. They can barely waddle far enough to reach their mobility scooters.

>>10986897
Is true
but some people have low will power so they need keto to trick them into low calorie diets

>>10988278
only american born mexicans have pride in being brown

>>10987134
Calories are a unit of energy, dumbfuck

It doesn't matter what the efficiency is, for cars, it will still be energy in vs energy out. The energy in comes in gas from and the energy out comes in heat, mechanical energy, etc.

Calories in calories out

Unless you’re VEGAN

https://youtu.be/c27oJYcn27Y&t=1m53s

Calories are not some packages of energy that your organism will inevitably absorb. A calorie is an amount of energy that a substance will produce during burning. This says nothing on how a substance will be treated by an organism.

>>10987934
>Wait long enough, and it syncs man
It doesnt sync until after you die and rot

>>10989638
>t. Noscience brainlet

>>10989455
do you guys think veganism is a mental disorder?

>>10990538
No, it's mostly a misguided attempt of fixing the issues with modern animal farming. Lab-grown meat is a better solution than trying to turn everyone vegan I think. Some people with other issues latch onto veganism like a cult though, but that doesn't mean there's no truth in it at all.

>>10990705
Are you the same person every time? Why do you keep saying this? Veganism and lab grown meat isn't mutually exclusive. Lab grown meat is simply not available at this point in time.

>>10990733
>>10990739
>>10990743
Just a little taste, James

>>10990713
>Veganism and lab grown meat isn't mutually exclusive.
That's not really true, I still see vegans saying they won't eat it basically because they think it'll make them impure, and the ones who think being vegan is healthier won't have a reason to eat it either

>>10986923
>>10987038
Solid kek.

>>10990733
>>10990739
>>10990743
>>10990755
i haven't felt gut-wrenching skin-crawling disgust on this website in 10 years
why do you have this saved
why did i click on it
fuck me

>>10990733
>>10990739
>>10990743
>>10990755
typical CICO advocate

If you're maintaining your current weight with your normal diet, just go on a water fast for a month, you'll lose 20lbs a month and you won't die since you're a fat fuck and have all those stored fat.
Fat soluble vitamins, (the vital ones that you need to live) are stored in your fat and they just get used up as you burn fat anyway.

>>10987057
>>10987061
>He's fit and physically desirable! Look at him, look at him and laugh!

You sure got 'em

>>10991320
I heard theres a lot of health concerns with water fasts. Like you can fucking DIE from eating the wrong foods immediately after ending a diet.

>>10992442
The risk is low but real. It is caused by an electrolyte deficiency, that is worsened when you eat since the liver suddenly needs a shitton of electrolytes to deal with the food, and this drops your blood electrolyte levels into dangerously low territory. It takes a while (weeks) of fasting for this to become an issue. This priblem was discovered in WW2 when we liberated the Japanese POW camps, about 1% of the prisoners had this problem with their first meal. But you really have to neglect your electrolytes for this to happen, so add a little salt to your water every now and then, or during some broth once a week. Or just make your first food a small snack, then eat your real meal an hour or so later once the snack has corrected your electrolytes. It's not rocket science, religious people have been doing month or longer fasts for millenia.

Is it really so hard to skip a meal?
You don't have to starve yourself just because you have zero fucking self-control.

>>10990733
>>10990739
>>10990743
>>10990755
>this is a human

>>10986932
boy
you dont wanna shit talk yhe purest striker in the game

>>10990733
>>10990739
>>10990743
>>10990755

>>10987134
No because a car that gets 30 mpg is still getting one gallon of gas into it. If you start getting 60 with the same car and absolutely no changes in fuel, weight, etc., then yes.

>>10988268
Gravity is also more complicated than "What goes up, must come down" but that doesn't mean you can still use that to understand basic concepts.

>>10990538
Only the people who start demeaning and ostracizing people who don't conform to their lifestyle and opinions are mentally ill. If you are vegan for health or animal protest, then fine. If you're a militant vegan, then you're an asshole. Same goes for non-vegans who shit on vegan food in unnecessary ways (read: unnecessary).

>>10992931
>skipping one meal is too hard for no-willpower fatties
>skipping lots of meals requires zero self control
You are aware that skipping n+1 meals requires more self control than skipping n?
The advantage of fasting is it gets the food-related hormones under control asap. The only people who do calorie restriction are no-willpower plebs who can't stand the thought of missing mommies special tendies and masochists who enjoy hunger pains and are aroused by the thought of a permanent reduction in their metabolic rate of around 700+kcal/day.
>inb4 fasting isnt sustainable for a lifetime
Look up intermittent fasting and time-restricted eating. Notice that time-restricted eating is how everybody ate before the 1980's.

>>10986932
Wrestlers court, 20 minutes. Bring lube

>>10987048
You're some type of skinnyfat. I'm calling it

>>10993127
>Notice that time-restricted eating is how everybody ate before the 1980's.
It's also how non-idiots eat today. I had no idea there was actually a term for this. It's mindboggling.

>>10987834
Welcome to 4Chan. Is this your first day?

>>10993099
Not when it leads you to believe that the earth must be flat else gravity would make things slide off. That's about the level of understanding that you CICOfags have. The endocrine system controls how the CI are partitioned between fat and immediate energy use, and regulates the amount of CO the body prefers as its basic state.
See
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27136388
The "biggest loser" study. The contestants were on a diet that cut their intake by roughly 750 kcal over a normal adult. At the end of the competition, their daily metabolism had dropped by 748 kcal - the only reason they were losing weight was the 4+ hrs of exercise each day and the speed the show's doctor was giving them. 6 years later their average metabolic reduction was still roughly 500kcal per day (this is compared to a normal healthy adult not their pre-show metabolic rate), and their hunger hormone levels were roughly 30% higher than a normal adult. Yes CICO still applies, the laws of thermodynamics still apply, but the endocrine changes that happen if you base your diet on the incredibly simplistic CICO model will seriously fuck you over for years.

>>10993214
>hunger hormone levels
Means you're weak and that you can't follow CICO

I received an actually good reason for CICO to be silly, but your explanation is garbage.

>>10993174
Exactly. It's also what you get when you shorten the length of a fast below 24 hrs for long-term sustainability. There is a reason the first meal of the day is called break-fast. In the mildest form of time restricted eating you simply dont eat any late night snacks, which is the simplest sanest thing to do. And for many people this is enough to keep their weight under control. It's not necessarily enough for type 2 diabetics and really obese people, because their endocrine system is just too far out of whack. Longer fasts (days/weeks) will bring that under control so that simply skipping snacks will get them the rest of the way.

>>10993243
>peer reviewed NIH study
>garbage
Sure thing pal

>>10992931
Im on OMAD and still cant lose weight. My portions are bigger than probably what is expected but im not going full retard.

>>10993308
What were your fasting insulin level your last checkup? If it was elevated then you have to get it down or it will be tough going, high insulin prevents your body from burning fat. Insulin shoves fat into adipose cells, if it's too high then the insulin will be stuffing fat back into storage as soon as it comes out.

>>10993308
>>10993352
Dont listen to this chump. CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT. STOP EATING SO MUCH EVEN IF ITS ONE MEAL

Fasting is the most natural thing in the world.
Do you think apes and early humans had access to food 3 times a day, with every meal containing SALT, SUGAR and FAT in every bite?
FUCK NO, they ate maybe once every few days if they were lucky

car milk in, car milk out

>>10993733
huh?

>>10994966
He's trying to force some kind of meme, but doesnt know how to post images. He spams this shit all the time.

>>10986932
YOU'VE DONE IT NOW

>>10993214
How the fuck do you combat this? I'm close to my goal weight and I feel like this is happening to me. I'd kms if I have to restrict my calories below 1500.

>>10992938
Not any longer

>>10986909

>>10994966
based checked & underrated

>>10995289
Your metabolism drops because your body does not have enough energy to keep your organs running well with the energy levels available. You need to increase the amount of energy available to your organs while still limiting calorie intake below your burn rate.

Your body can run off either glucose or fat. It will run off glucose if at all possible (this is often used to justify a high carb diet, but your body will run off alcohol over carbs and nobody uses that to justify alcoholism). If your body is in glucose burning mode but there isn't enough quite enough glucose then your metabolism will slow down to match. But if there isn't *nearly* enough glucose, then your body will switch to burning fat and save the glucose for the handful of organs that need it. Since you have lots of fat to burn, this eliminates the energy deficit so your metabolism increases again. And now you're burning fat like crazy, while your liver makes whatever glucose you still need (not much).
You do this with fasting.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/81/1/69/4607679
>RMR [resting metabolic rate] and RQ [respiratory quotient] did not change significantly from baseline to day 21
>Glucose and ghrelin [the hunger hormone] did not change significantly from baseline with alternate-day fasting, whereas fasting insulin decreased 57 ± 4%.

>>10996987
The decrease in insulin is the key btw. It's what opens the taps from your fat reserves. Insulin forces fat into your adipose cells, if insulin is high then most fat that comes out gets shoved right back in before it can be used for fuel. Get insulin low and you can burn all the fat you want, keep it high and you can cut calories all you want but you won't lose weight because that fat is effectively locked away by the insulin. Conversely if insulin is low you simply cannot gain weight and will eventually starve to death. Pic related.

>>10990733
>>10990739
>>10990743
>>10990755
why is his skin like that?

>>10997294
Poor circulation, edema, constant moisture in folds...
Obese people have the nastiest skin and it smells exactly how you image it does.

>>10993554
>they ate maybe once every few days if they were lucky

Where did you read that? They would never survive as well as they did if that was true. I think anthropologists believe they had quite easy access to food but had one big meal a day instead of 3 small.

>>10986897
Yep, that's what you want to watch. Is there anything else?

>>10987134
You are stupid. The car isn't going to suddenly start producing gasoline from nothing then claim it was it's throttle.

>>10986897
Frogposters out