/ck/ - Food & Cooking

It is oily and unhealthy. Don’t you love it?

>>10977858
>anime

Cheap cuts are always better. I will enjoy my slow cooked beef while others can eat filet memegnon.

It depends what you're making. It is good in many ways, but not strictly better.

Dark meat is best in shake n bake and fried chicken. Anything else I'd probably go breast.

>>10977858
One of the benefits of living near white people is that they pay top dollar for the blandest cuts so the good stuff gets offloaded cheaply.

>>10979197
Some oil and that would be great
t. Arab

>>10979258
Cooked together with any decent oil or even vinegar could b gud

>>10979187
shake n bake is for idiots you're fucking stupid you're a child

>>10979197
>plain sliced carrots
Abhorrent.

>>10979197

i'm always amazed, and take advantage of, how cheap whole chickens are because a) people don't know how to deconstruct them and b) people don't know how to cook them whole

>>10979197
Put it in a blender and add oatmeal, then boil it with milk for 3 hours.
>British cooking

>>10979378

>boneless chicken boobs $5/pound
>whole chicken $12

>>10979170
>(You)

Economy of scale, you subhuman anime addicted NEET retard.

>>10979439
took you long enough, thanks

>>10979386
You're paying for the labor to debone it

>>10977858
Racism.
In Australia we don't use the category "dark meat." We just look at each cut on its own merit. If we knew it as dark meat, we'd give it a negative association with excess skin pigmentation. But we don't, so thighs end up being more expensive than breasts.

I feel like this whole thread is just a metaphor for BBC

>>10979845
That's because you have an unhealthy obsession with black men's dicks.

>>10977858
>chicken thigh is cheaper than breast
>chicken thigh is significantly better and is arguably easier to prepare.

>>10979772
Meat workers can do that shit very quick, i don't think de-boning adds up to much when compared to the salary you make at an abattoir.

>>10979806
>when your entire government kowtows to a word that has some correlation with the natural world
I know the country is full of abbos, but do you assume the rest of the country is retarded too?

>>10979170
Where do you think you are?

>>10981193
What? I guess I didn't phrase my post very well.

>>10977858
white people

>>10981236
I would love to know what comment caused this.

>>10980893
>Chicken thigh is significantly easier to prepare

???????????????????????????????????

I mean it tastes better.

>>10979361
Wanna try that one more time, little one?

>>10981250
Seems you've been drinking the methylated spirits too, mate

>>10979378
It's a better deal to just buy the cut you want.

>>10977858
Lol, I don't feed that shit to my dog, even he gets sick off it.

>>10977858
I call this you liking dark cock

>>10981287
It's hard to overcook thighs. I have to be super careful when cooking breasts

>>10979197
>subhumans can't appreciate subtlety

tfw chicken hearts are the cheapest stuff around
tfw hipsters havent claimed it yet

>>10977858
It's called "hipster's haven't found it yet"

But i'm thinking Chef John is gonna make chicken thighs big and ruin that

Most go for white meat because it's 'healthier', even though dark meat only has a tiny bit more calories, fats and cholesterol, too insignificant to matter if you're eating proper portions. Thanks to this ignorance I get thighs for cheap.

>>10981236
Where do you think you are?

>>10983026
>4chan
>chan

>>10979197
I'm Danish and this looks so damned familiar it's only the butter that gives away it's not a photo from my childhood. (We had margarine)

>>10983042
which is short for channel

>>10983026
Nestled in between the cosplay board and the pictures of cute anime boys board, as per the site layout.

4chan is an anime website.

>>10983199
>cosplay
>cute anime boys
why don't ya fuck off to one of them ya SEETHING r******r

>>10983227
I don't need to, I am equally at home on every board.

>>10983277
Who is this moot I keep hearing about?

>>10983286
Lurk more.

>>10979197
nothing on that plate looks cooked.

>>10983048
floral patterns on tableware are ubiquitous in middle class white households across the globe.

>>10983277
>he thinks a 15 year old personal message from moot still applies to 2018 normiechan

>>10981250
No, your joke was fine. That guy is just a /pol/ leak, and as we all know autistic people have trouble understanding tone and sarcasm.

>>10982593
>tfw chicken hearts are the cheapest stuff around
not in brazil desune

>>10979178
This, meat prices have horribly bad diminishing returns.

>>10977858
it's more expensive in glorious nippon

>>10979162
>>10982987
>boomer medical knowledge from television
I can't as much blame the misinformed as much as those who pushed the stigma.
>>10982593
Chicken hearts are comparatively difficult to prepare and extremely easy to fuck up, so most people avoid them.

>>10977858
where does cow is cheaper than pork? Oh, I guess MURICA

Is it really cheaper even skinless and boneless?

>>10984343
Pork is, on average, cheaper than beef in the US and your English is terrible.

>>10984343
where does dark meat refer to anything but poultry? oh i guess whatever shithole this retard hails from

>>10984343
Pajeet you need to work on your English

>>10979170
>>10983286
>bitches about weebs
>doesn't know who moot is
Makes senes

>>10979170
Yes? And?

>>10983297
>>10984819
I heard he stabbed a guy in a bar fight

>>10983286
He's the guy who invented facebook

>>10984348
Chicken leg quarters seem to be the cheapest around me.

>>10983026
>someone was this triggered by anime crossboarders they took the time out of their day to make this

I always give the dark meat to my cat, and trash what she won't eat. Hate the taste of it.

>local markets/butchers sell offal super cheap
>because rest of town are picky bastards they're often marked down on top of that
>can get liver, heart, bones, turkey and dark meats for cheaper than most vegetables

If only I could get seafood this easy

>>10983026
he mad

>>10984844
>>10986345
what the fuck delete your aqua right now

>>10977858
There's less meat, more bones. Even by the weight, thighs cost more than breasts.
I'm not familiar on other dark/white meat pieces

>>10977858
>Thighs have more calories
>More fat
>Less protein

You pay more for the breast because it has better nutritional value, not because it tastes better. That said, I can get breasts for 2 dollars a pound. It's a good meat to help hit 180g of protein a day with and if I'm gonna have something fatty, it's going to be a proper steak.

every thanks giving. EVERY ONE

dad - ''hey mom, do you want the breast or the leg?''

mom ''leg.''

dad - ''yeah youre mum likes the dark meat. hehehe''

every fucking thanks giving.

>>10983286
ever heard of shadman? yeah, think about it

>>10979378
Roasting whole chicken is so damn easy, too.
>pat entire bird nice and dry with paper towels
>season liberally with salt and pepper
>tuck wings under and tie legs together with twine
>place breast side up in a pan and bake at 450F for ~20 minutes per pound
Then you get to make delicious stock from the bones.

>>10987400
It doesn't have "better nutritional value", it just has a bit more fat than protein. Getting sufficient protein is extremely easy for most people in the Western world, and there is nothing inherently unhealthy about dietary fat. Chicken breast is more expensive because there is more demand for it, and for no other reason.

>>10987688
Let me rephrase that then. If you are on a high protein diet, chicken breast which is higher in protein is the better choice. Nutritional value I suppose is defined by what an individual needs but for those who focus on high protein, it's one of the best meats you could have.

>>10987717
Why would the tiny % difference in protein yield matter though? It sounds like it's people fixating on MOAR PROTEINZ without realizing that they're already eating a huge excess.

why would anyone need to eat anywhere close to 180g/day? That's excess even for a full-on bodybuilder taking steroids.

>>10987743
No it isn't. Lifting heavy and for muscle mass you want to eat 1 to 1.5g per pound of body weight you have. When on a cut, you want to try and match gram for pound to help prevent muscle loss. Being on a cut and not wanting to lose muscle, fitting 180g into 1500-1800 calories daily means very lean meats.

For the average person it is an excess, but for very physical jobs or lifestyles you need it to keep building. It all just depends on what each person is aiming for.

>>10987788
>No it isn't. Lifting heavy and for muscle mass you want to eat 1 to 1.5g per pound of body weight you have.
Have a solid citation for that or are you just parroting bullshit like most fitfags?

I was a bodybuilder back in college. I took steroids (Frontloaded with sustanon, took Test E and Equipoise). Dianabol too. Even for that 1 to 1.5g/lb is crazy excessive.

>>10979197

Where's the sauce, at least a roux, or brown butter

>>10987817
fitfags think that even a tiny spoonful of fat will suddenly make their "gainz" disappear.

>>10987800
Many official articles fall in your favor. But from my personal experience, high protein has been more beneficial over the years. Having regular DEXA scans, I can usually build muscle and lose fat while on a cut if I combine approximately one hour of lifting 3-4 sets 8-12 reps with 2-4 miles of running or HIIT training. Before adopting a high protein diet, this workload left me exhausted.

Caveat to all that though is two months looks like 4 or less pounds of fat lost and 3 or less pounds of muscle mass gain, but makes for a sustainable lifestyle. So I believe your point has more truth to it on average. Personally, with the number of conflicting opinions, I don't believe one school of thought is inherently wrong. It's more a matter of how much work you do, when you intake, and your genetics. This would explain the large deviations among studies.

>>10987972
>It's more a matter of how much work you do, when you intake, and your genetics. This would explain the large deviations among studies.
Agreed.

In my opinion the crazy high protein intake recommendations come from ignorance combined with the trend for exaggeration over time. Obviously a certain amount of protein is required to build muscle. Nobody denies that. But I'm sure that figure has been inflated time and time again as it gets repeated. I.e. some scientist publishes a paper that calls for a minimum of 30g of protein. Some meathead thinks that if 30 is good then 40 must be better, so he suggests 40. Someone reads that post and repeats it, doing the same thing: if 40 is good then 50 must be better since 50 is bigger than 40, and everyone knows that protein is good for MUH GAINZZ. Repeat. And that's how you end up with nonsense like 200g a day.

>>10988026
It also feels like a lot of that mentality is more because somebody wants to eat a lot of meat, and not focus on the most important aspect. The actual training and recovery portion. It's easy to yell about gainz when you just want to eat a steak. So back to the actual topic of OP, I agree that demand drives up the cost. Partially caused by that very bro science aspect causing a higher demand.

>>10988052
>Partially caused by that very bro science aspect causing a higher demand.

IMHO the "demand" created by fitness enthusiasts looking to optimize their diet is minimal. The number of people who actually bother to compute their macros to that degree are small.

IMO there are two much bigger factors:
1) picky eaters who think dark meat is "gross"
2) facebook mommies who heard that breast is lower in fat than leg and want to avoid that evil nasty fat.

Hell, for many years now "all white meat" has been used as a marketing term on product packaging and menus. Just like "gluten free" people tend to think of that as a "good" thing. I'm sure that has affected an awful lot of sheeple.