/ck/ - Food & Cooking

that has cheese on it F-

>>10950411
Cheese is technically vegan.

ketchup is not vegan. it contains vinegar.

>>10950427
no it isn't

>>10950375
is that keto?

>>10950824
It's literally just bacteria like yoghurt which is vegan to.
>>10950824
No it's vegan.

>>10950821
yeah, but it's not real vinegar, that takes too long.

>>10950843
it says they are made with 100% REAL cheese! cruel

>>10950824
Is a raindrop which ran off a bird's back not vegan?

>>10950821
how is vinegar not vegan

>>10950375
Terrible attempt at OC.

>>10950861
Technically it's not, no.

>inb4 pssst it's vegan.jpg

>>10950861
Anything that touches an animal in any way, shape or form is inherently not vegan.
That water you're drinking? A fish was swimming in that at some point. Water is not vegan.

>>10950977
Kek. Wouldn't it be great if they all stopped drinking it?

>>10950861
It is vegan unless it was collected unethically (e.g. if for some reason someone held the bird captive just to collect water that had dripped off its back)
A baby drinking its mothers milk is also vegan (unless for some reason the mom is being forced)

>>10950979
hahaha bacon ftw !!!! xDDD

>>10950995
So if we could collect milk without the cows knowing it, vegans could drink it?

vegan lasagna

>>10951021
I don't think it's enough that the cows don't know it. I mean if you have sex with a sleeping girl and she doesn't know it, it's still rape. I think you would have to get the cow to voluntarily express its consent somehow.

I realize this whole post makes me sound like a fag so let me stress that I'm just explaining my own understanding of veganism. I hate vegans and they're all fags and I eat meat.

>>10950862
it's an animal product, it's made by bacteria

>>10950375
I ate asparagus sushi. Awful waste of money. Tiny portion for the cost. And I hated sushi before I was vegan anyways.

>>10950995
>unless it was collected unethicall
So virtually all water that vegans have access to because at this point aquifers are being depleted several times faster than they can be naturally restored.

>>10951047
vegan sushi is so sad. it's literally like 3 cents worth of ingredients

>>10951047
>I hated sushi before I was vegan anyways.

>>10951021
You're not a cow, so it will never be vegan for you.

>>10951052
I think vegans mostly worry about the more immediate causes of animal suffering rather than the more indirect ways we fuck over the environment. If they're not directly killing animals but instead creating conditions under which there will inevitably be animal suffering, they feel better about it somehow.

>>10950930
Then what about the people who provide electricity/utilities that provide the materials to produce the finished product? If they eat meat, and in turn use that nourishment to provide said utilities, is that an issue?

>>10951064
protip: I only like sour grapes.

>>10951069
Unless we come up with a way to communicate with cows.

For example if Koko the gorilla was lactating and a scientist asked Koko in sign language for some milk, and Koko said yes, that would be vegan.

>>10951064
Seriously. My expectations were low. I mean, $4 for a handful of asparagus and rice wrapped in seaweed with soy sauce and wasabi.
>>10951037
>These organisms are all fine to consume. The reasoning behind this is that these things lack nervous systems and thus are almost certainly not sentient (the ability to suffer or experience pain) in any way. They're pretty much in the same league as plants really. One concern to look out for though, is where the lactobaccillus cultures come from. These are sometimes grown using blood or cow's milk, which is obviously not vegan.
>>10951071
One is an easy way to reduce damage. Other is significantly more difficult. Veganism isn't all-or-nothing. It's about mitigation.
>>10951072
I guess that's why they engage in loud activism so much.

>>10951082
The first thing I would ask Koko is if I could have a suckle of her warm milk straight from the tap...

>>10951249
would Sarah allow that?

>>10951285
It's the closest thing to consensual sex with a woman I would ever experience and it's not like Sarah would have physical contact with me either way so I would like to think that Sarah would allow that. For my sake.

>>10950375
You can use slices of kombucha scoby as sashimi. I don't know which side of the arbitrary line you people use the live bacteria and yeast fall on though.

>>10950411
>Implying there's any actual cheese in Goldfish

>>10950427
I've been wondering why there isn't a good vegan cheese. Coconut yogurt tastes like cow yogurt, and it's made the same way. I don't know why we can't make a coconut cheese or something that tastes like cow cheese and melts the same.

>>10951690
because ur gay lol

>>10951662
>You can use slices of kombucha scoby as sashimi

>>10951990
>Not fermenting food and beverages
>Not consuming a byproduct rich in protein and probiotics

>>10952016
>he fell for the probiotic meme
yes, good goyim, consume the things we tell to

>>10952056
Yes, I'm sure it's merchants that want me to brew a gallon of kombcha for $0.50 instead of buying pharmaceuticals.

>>10951037
prokaryotes aren't animals

>>10952358
But they are living and experience stress. That's not very vegan of you to go through mental gymnastics to deny their suffering just ike a carnist.

>>10952016
There's a wide world of fermented foods that don't involve drinking autism vinegar of soymales

>>10952386
Name 1

>>10951690

>>10953208
He said GOOD cheese, sweetie.

>>10953208
I've only had daiya cheese, it's okay but it's nothing like actual mozzarella or cheddar

>>10950375
stand a aside jiro, there's a new master in town

>>10951114
But you are growing them for the purpose of consuming them. That's bacterial-cruelty. Why do you discriminate against micro-organism just because they can't feel?

>>10954044
None of that is actual cheese.

>>10950375
That'rr be 200 dorrars

>>10954140
Prus tip baka gaijin

>>10952384
Well so are/do plants. It's dumb to compare the suffering of a tree to that of a pig.

>>10954572
>It's dumb to compare the suffering of a tree to that of a pig.
I'm a psychology major and this is verbatim what a sociopath like John Wayne Gacy would say. No empathy, no emotion. Just dead eyes hiding a cold, calculated evil.