/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10933989
Because curry is only a result of the massive influx of shit skins into their country.
It's not "British" food

>>10934801
That can be said for any "American" food

>>10934879
Nobody is denying that. This isn't "USA vs Britain".

>>10934801
Not even remotely true. Curry has a very long history in England. Have you heard of the British Empire, perchance?

I just made chicken tikka for the first time coincidentally. It's pretty good.

>>10934915
>tfw when your food is so shit you invade and colonize entire hemispheres to get spices

>>10934801
lol what

>>10933989
The white persons version of curry is often extremely bland and inoffensive.

>>10933989
i spent 3 years in england for wokr

I have to say, british food is good
>>sausage rolls
>pork pies
>bangers and mash
>fish pie
>shepards pie
>carrots and swede
>fish and chips and mushy peas
>great soups
>great stews
I loved loved traditional british food

>>10933989
>>10934801
>>10934915
The term you're looking for is English cuisine. Traditional British cuisines could include Scottish and Welsh, as well as arguably Irish. Modern British cuisines include Indian and Pakistani dishes, however.

>>10934879
*blocks your path*

>>10934801
The English practically invented curry as the west knows it. True indian curry can only be found in south india where the empire didn't really penetrate. The biggest tell of an anglicized curry is an overuse of cream.

>>10935261
>wanting your food to be offensive
the absolute state of degenerates

British Food is fine. It’s not amazing but it’s hearty and filling, and tastes good. People shit on it because they like to shit on bongs, but it’s in no way worse than Scandinavian or Eastern European food.

Even if something like Yorkshire puddings were French everyone would call them a delicacy.

>>10933989
>Chef prepared curry after wiping bottom with his bare hands 'for cultural reasons'
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chef-prepared-curry-after-wiping-7745790

>>10934915
brits had str8 up no clue how to properly prepare curry until brown folks came to the isles proper

>>10936688
one reason "traditional" british cuisine is so bland is because quality foodstuffs did not need seasoning to be palatable.
Obviously this is a problem today, where good meat can be paired with a good sauce or a good marinade instead of having to merely be itself, but it was quite different before the industrial revolution and its effects on agriculture.

>>10936724
>but it was quite different before the industrial revolution and its effects on agriculture
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>10936738
Whatever your judgement on it may be, the fact of the matter is that it has made a greater availability and variety of fresh foods for those of us within the developed world. Our judgement and perception of cuisine changes accordingly.

>>10936607
>The biggest tell of an anglicized curry is an overuse of cream.

And fresh tomatoes. Even the curry powder that has been popular in the late 19th century and today is essentially a British invention. Strangely enough the closest Asian local curry combination to modern British curry powder is from Tamil Nadu and the northern parts of Sri Lanka.

>>10936847
One more thing. I noticed that Western style curries often employ nutmeg or maces, non-native to India or Sri Lanka.

>>10933989
curry isnt good food

>>10936972

This, its the worst kind of spice.

>>10936847
are fresh tomatoes not a standard in north indian curries?

>>10935261
>The white persons version of curry is often extremely bland and inoffensive.

British Indian cuisine is exceptionally spicy, far outstripping anything normally eaten on the subcontinent or anywhere else in the world.

>>10936688
>British Food is fine. It’s not amazing but it’s hearty and filling

it's absolute shit, the blandest, stodgiest most tasteless methods of ingesting maximum grease known to man. Traditional British cuisine is simply a range of methods for eating fat without puking.

>>10935420
Don’t forget bubble and sqeak

>>10937009
that is a pretty nice, and biased opinion

>>10937009
>hurr durr your good uses fat as an ingredient
You know that isn’t remotely a bad thing, and not too long ago it was even considered desirable

>>10936985
They are in modern times, but they were adopted through colonial influence. Tomatoes are native to America.

>>10933989
when I think about british food I think about fish and chips, spotted dick, whole roasts, full english, chunky meat stews, and that thing that's like a hollowed out loaf of bread and there's fat sausages inside, not fucking indian shit served in dog bowls.

>>10936743
What is available in the region definitely has a major effect on dietary staples. Look at the shithole that is the Philippines, before WWII they were still eating like tribal apes but then America comes swooping in and now they can't get enough of that canned Spam to the point that Burger fucking King in the Philippines has that shit as a breakfast item.

>>10933989
i very like butter chicken.
I heard it born in uk.

>>10936738
Based Ted poster

>>10933989
I think there were three things that made Brit cuisine traditionally get a bad rap. First off in the Empire days the two big world powers were Brits and French, so Brit food god compared to French by the cosmopolitan set, and Brit cuisine usually fared poorly in such a comparison. Second, Brits didn't traditionally place a high value on cooks in general, so many people in that role professionally were underpaid and poorly trained. Third you have the one-two punch of industrialization and WWII, which took a sturdy and delicious cuisine based around simple, good ingredients and replaced it with a shadow of itself based around prefab and frozen ingredients. Like in America this took a terrible toll on home cooking, but even worse in Bongland.

The anti-fat diet movement in the USA screwed up British cuisine. We were so simple to accept a very biased American research that favored the sugar industry.

>>10937333
>Third you have the one-two punch of industrialization and WWII

The first two make sense, but that one does not. The poor reputation of British cuisine predates even WWI by decades. It's discussed in Beeton's for example, and that was published in Victorian times.

>>10937464
Not him, but if you read Dickens who was writing in the Victorian era, his descriptions of the food are mouthwatering. He was kind of obsessed with describing brit food.

>>10933989
London is not Britain.

>>10936607
>The English practically invented curry as the west knows it

>>10937528
Sure, but I'd say that has more to do with his writing style than anything else. He could probably describe a freshly dropped turd and make it sound appealing. Granted it's been years since I read Dickens, but I don't recall him comparing British food to any other nation.

Beeton specifically discusses the "Abysmal reputation of British food abroad" (her words, not mine).

BTW, I'm not putting the food down. I love a lot of British stuff. But at the same time I find the poor reputation of that food to be fascinating, especially since most of the explanations are obviously incorrect. Most of the time I see this discussed people just throw out muh war rationing, and that clearly can't be the case given that the reputation predates even WWI by decades (at least...Beeton's is simply the earliest reference I found), and various other nations got fucked much harder by rationing than the Brits did, and their cuisine reputation didn't suffer.

>>10934879
Not ANY American food, but I get where you're coming from. Here's the thing though: when Americans think of American food, they aren't thinking of Mexican or Thai restaurants, even if what they're selling are Americanized derivatives of actual Mexican or Thai foods. When Americans think "American" cuisine, it's shit like clam chowder, steak and potatoes, burgers, cheesesteaks, corndogs, and barbecue.

Similarly, I don't really consider Indian dishes made to please Anglo consumers actual British food. Instead I'm thinking of various puddings, fish and chips, beef wellington, pasties, that kind of shit.

>>10937464
The reason I mentioned industrialization and WWII is because that helped perpetuate the stereotype into the 20th Century even as better and better restaurants opened across Bongland. Most of British home cooking had been gutted, leading serious home cooks to focus on other cuisines like Spanish and Italian.

>>10933989
Britain curry is fucking joke.

>>10933989
Honestly feel bad that US doesn't get haggis, black pudding or even good curries.

>>10933989
The Bonglish food culture got more thoroughly buttfucked by WWII than just about anyone else. Before the 30s it was breddy gud; the gilded era culture had relaxed somewhat but there was still a lot of continental (French, specifically) influence on the dining culture, there were exotic dishes and ingredients from both the asian connection and their immediate neighbors and the English fetish for gardens was at its zenith. Then the depression hit and things slipped and immediately afterwards WWII rationing hit like a ton of bricks; meat, fats, sugar, fruit, spices, alcohols, fish, white flour - all of the good stuff was strictly rationed and whatever domestics were still around left for the front so meal service died in all but the wealthiest households. After the war they were still poor but unlike the continentals they went all-in on preserved crap like America did and we've been joined at the hip ever since.

If you want an idea of what British food used to be then read the Hobbit, specifically the part where the dwarves show up and start raiding Bilbo's pantry.

>>10933989
> British food is now middle eastern food

Makes sense.

>>10937695
> There are actually places that Londoners are afraid to go in their own cities.

London Cop Tells LBC: "There Are No-Go Areas"

Regarding no-go areas in London, Rob added: "With rising gang crime in London, there are areas which you wouldn't go into as a pair of cops in a car because of the fear of having things thrown at you when you're driving through certain estates - rocks, home made fire bombs, bottles etc.

>>10935615
>British Cuisine
>including Irish

>>10934801

What? England has been importing foreign spices for around a thousand years.

>>10937869
Sure. But given how expensive those spices were it didn't have an effect on the cuisine of the average person. Who cares if the king can afford spices if the overwhelming majority of the population cannot.

And for whatever reason they still didn't get much use in the food, even for upper classes. Example: Mrs. Beeton's, a famous British cookbook from the Victorian era, was aimed towards the upper class who could afford servants, etc, (pic related). Browse through here and you'll be shocked at how few spices are used and how small amounts are used in each dish. A dish that serves twelve might have only a few blades of mace & a bit of Harvey's sauce. (Harvey's sauce, Mushroom Ketchup, and Walnut ketchup seem to be by far the most common seasonings called for in Beeton's.)

>>10934879
So Taco Bell is Mexican food, or Taco Bell is American food? I don't know what to think, with all these irrelevant second and third-worlders giving me conflicting info

>>10935724
literally made in hamburg
hamburg-er

>>10933989
the food ain't halal mate

>>10936607
>True Indian curry
Look man, we can just as easily put shit in our curry and make it "authentic"

>>10937927
Then where are the old country-style Hamburgerische Hamburger?

>>10936615
>not wanting literal shit in your food
Lmao at you white ppl

>>10935261
>how dare your food not be offensive to the taste

>>10937927
Holy shit you are dumb. Possibly the dumbest in this thread. B8?

>>10933989
>steel food from pajeets
>claim it is English