/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10933687
OP here, I'll go first:
>what are you drinking atm?
Keemun Hao Ya from TeaVivre
>loose-leaf or sachet?
Almost always loose-leaf when I can afford it
>post pics of your teaware
Porcelain gaiwan in above pic, also from TeaVivre, cost me $12
>what would you recommend for first-timers?
For teabags, Twinings or Tazo. For loose-leaf, TeaVivre has some good samplers of black teas as well as a sampler with variety.

>>10933687
>>10933702
making tea seems complicated to me for some reason but i never look it up, how do you do it?

This is my kettle.
I brew water and then put a Tetley Bold teabag in a cup, pour hot water over it with a splash of milk, and that's it.

>>10935400
but like how much water? in the kettle? with a teabag? what do you do with the leftover water if there is any? is it ok to have more than one tea?

Give me sugar in water

>>10935421
The teabag has to be placed at a 45 degree angle in a cup, you can use only 212ml of boiling water, and the excess water has to be poured over your right hand if you boil too much.

>>10935432
teafags are worse than coffeefags

>>10933687

I'm drinking gyokuro green tea from capital teas. I live within walking distance from one of their shops, shits pretty good. First tea I've ever drank loose. I don't have any tea ware, literally just drink it from my company mug. I would recommend it to first timers, but it seems a tad expensive at 25$ for 2 ounces.

>>10933687
>what would you recommend for first-timers?
Try everything that sounds nice to you, you'll eventually find your way with tea pretty easily. Watch youtube tutorials if you can't tell apart a kettle from a teapot.

>>10935447
there's a difference?

>>10935451
Have you ever seen the little Dormouse stuck in a kettle? They were mad, but not that much.

>>10935468
i have not

>>10935439
Capital Teas, hm? Not heard of them. Where are you located?

>>10935331
At its core, it's not very complicated. For black teas, which are very common, just boil the water and let the tea steep for a certain number of minutes (depends on the blend, but for blacks its usually 3-5 minutes.)

Can we get some sort of flowchart, perhaps, or a document for beginners?

>>10935590
would like a box of twinings have instructions on it?

>>10935581

Annapolis, MD.

Any of you guys ever try blue lotus?

>>10935616
Yes. On the side, usually. I recommend their Earl Grey.

>>10935728
nice, i actually read stuff on amazon this time looking at teas, i'll probably like their winter spice too. i actually recognize those ingredients and it sounds good lol.

>>10935905
Never heard of this blend. What's all in it?

>>10935921
camomile(only one i don't know), natural apple flavour with other natural flavours, cinnamon, cardamom, cloves

funny story, one thanksgiving i woke up and went to the pantry and when i opened the door a thing of cloves in a glass container fell out of the door and shattered on the floor, vacuum still smells like cloves when it runs, smells like christmas

I got one of those dehydrated orange stuffed with tea meme things. How am I supposed to steep this? Do I put the whole thing in the water or do I take the tea out so it has more room to expand? Do I add the orange even if I take the tea out? Do I just smash it with a rock and toss the whole mess in the teapot?

>>10935957
I assume you take the tea out and make it. The orange must be for added taste. Do you know what kind of tea it is? I presume it's black.

>>10936018
Yea black tea.

>>10935590
also there's this pastebin from /tea gen/ threads https://pastebin.com/4ZEuMwBJ

>>10936099
Thanks very much. I'll be sure to consult this for future reference.

>>10936099
Doing an overnight cold brew is much better for iced tea than brewing hot and adding to ice

>>10936509
But what if I want my tea right now and I'm bad at planning

>>10936720
You don't need planning, though? Boil some water, throw some green leaves into a stepper and teabag your way to success.
But if you're going to be so sleazy you might as well just microwave your teavanas and call it a day.

>>10935590

>>10936766
I was going to say this is a nice chart, but why are "Oolong (ball)" and "Black (small leaf)" repeated?

>>10936761
I was referring to the overnight part. On sweltering days I always make iced tea and I like having it ready in five minutes instead of 8 hours.

>>10936799
imbecile

>>10936778
Because I fucked up.
Fixed.

>>10935728
how about their lemon and ginger tea?

>>10933687
Hey, guys. Filthy peasant here. I have a question about filthy peasant tea. I like my tea on the strong side, and use 5 Luzianne family-size tea bags (and 1/2c sugar) for every 1 quart of water, steeped for 7 minutes. Am I doing something wrong? That's a shit-ton of tea. The end result tastes the same as you'd get in a restaurant. If you follow the directions on the box, it is watered down gargabe. How do these restaurants do it and not lose money?

>tfw have never been able to find a cup of tea as good as the 10 cent chai served on long-distance trains in south india
Is there a secret? I have black tea from assam, fresh ginger, cardamom, cloves, cinnamon, a bit of sugar. But it never comes out the same no matter what ratios I use, and I'm pretty sure the chai cart guys are just using a premade spice mix anyway.

>>10935957
It's a sweet kind of pu'erh. You take a tea cup of the tea and mix it with some orange shards in your teapot. You can step with multiple short time infusion (10-15 sec)or step it for a long time (5 min) and just add more water until it tasted nothing.
Comfy in summer.

>>10937497
You can try teabox.com , they have a huge selection of poo in the loo teas.

>>10937504
Is there a particular name under which I could search for it?

lol my only gaiwan i had also had its lid broken

it fell down on the carpet

i emailed jkteashop about 6 times if they could resend it or sell me just a lid. i even told them in a different purchase to reply to my mail twice and still have never gotten a message.

maybe i should buy a new gaiwan

British teaware and tea culture is the best in the world. Pic related (me)

>>10937504
Poo-Air is the tea of lesbians and no one else should drink it.

who /earlgrey/ here?

Ok I bought some good quality oolong and it tells me to only steep for a few seconds and whatnot, quite different from bagged tea I had used in the past. I only have a French press but it seems like a bit much for making these small cups at a time. Do I need a gaiwan?
Also how do I get an intuition about the temperature of the water without being autistic and using a thermometer?

>>10939078
Experience you.

>>10939092
This enlightened me

>>10938480
rooibos or bust

>>10937434
They brew bigger batches and charge $2 for like $0.50 worth of product.

>>10939078
Tea infusers cost a dollar, what's the problem

>>10937958
I like this one
>https://www.teabox.com/products/kolkata-street-chai-tea
>>10938470
Chai tea are awesome, mate.
>>10938447
Oi, where is dat teawhore liscence, m8?

>>10936834
Nice chart.
>>10939078
I did an experiment once. I had to serve tea to many people (15+) for a Chinese culture exhibition thing at my company. They needed tea, and they needed it on-the-go.
We could've had cups already served or have a nice gongfu cha demonstration, but due to my team being cheapskates and doing everything last minute, I had to make do with just a french press and my personal stack of Oolong. Many leaves, 90°c water, 4 minutes of steeping while talking your usual tea trivia, and serve.
Turns out it wasn't bad at all. The guests really liked seeing the leaves floating around as hot water filled the thing and seeing the colors change so quickly. Our average french press lasted enough servings and just needed to be refilled twice.
So it depends of what kind of tea you're having and your personal taste, but a french press works just right.

>>10938480
>/earlgrey/
yes

classes are over. playing vidya and drinking old whitey.

>>10938470
stfu

Any good shops online or offline for loose leaf tea in the UK? All the chinese people I know bring it from home because tea here sucks according to them. I've tried their tea and its damn good. How do britbongs get in on this? Rev up the colonies 2.0?

>>10933687
>Setup
Pic related

>atm
Imperial Pouchong (green Oolong), multiple steppings

>Advice for beginners
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea

>>10940388
This is interesting, thanks anon

>>10942092
Wasn't there an anon ordered a whole box of tea online, and posted some pictures like few threads ago? That thread got deleted you can't even find it from archive.

>>10942918
Yeah, if this area is unresearched i will happily go where no brit has gone before and order a shit load of samples and let you all know.

>>10935331
pour appropriately hot water on leaves
pour tea off when it's the colour you want

the rest is just window dressing

I have had my eyes on this hand made ceramic gongfu set at my local tea shop. Its $150 dollars which seems reasonable so Im about ready to cop.

I have been using a cast iron teavana pot for years now and I have become dissatisfied. Lately I have been just steeping my leaves in one mug and pouring them through a strainer into another - kind of makeshift gongfu.

Gongfu is really the patrician way to prepare tea, especially when only making for one or two people.

Im thinking I should keep my cast iron for exclusively Japanese green and finally allow it to build up that mineral layer, rather than wiping it down. Its pretty but something about teavana makes me feel dirty.

>>10940388
French press is a fantastic way to brew tea, because it allows full expansion of the leaves. The tea shop where I used to work would use french press and gongfu for just about everything.

The only caveats are to:
use a tea only press, as coffee residue will impart flavor.
transfer the steeped tea to another vessel to avoid over steeping.
and never press the plunger so far as to squeeze the tea leaves - it will end up tanic and bitter.

>>10937504
i assume that that you just remove the tea leaves from the orange and steep it normally. The oils of the orange peel should have already infused the tea.

>>10942963
I'm running low on samples myself. I might order some later today.

>>10942092
If you want specifically chinese tea, yunnansourcing is pretty much the king of online retailers for it. Widest selection available by far, but you do have to deal with chinese shipping and they aren't too keen on samples.
What-cha is another option, nowhere near the selection but it is based in UK and the dude who runs it is pretty nice. Every time I've ordered from there the order comes with a handwritten note and a sample he chucks in for free.

assam is the best tea

/thread

>>10944237
More like ASSam

>>10933687
Not drinking any caffein for a month now.

>>10938470
huh

>>10944314
Why not?

>>10943418
This is very good to know, thanks!
>>10944237
It is. There's not even need to discussion.

>>10933687
For years and years I've drank nothing but Twining's Lady Grey, but I want to actually get into teas properly now. I love what I drink so does anyone have any recommendations about other teas I may like?

vidya again and drinking my last few gs of my Thai royal pearl oolong

>>10936509
But you get a lot of that astringent taste still if you brew hot and add over ice. At least for green tea.

>>10943376
I've completely avoided teavana because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about most of the time, they can't even store their tea in the shops right half the time. Yunnan sourcing has quite a few gaiwan for a lot less which are pretty good quality.

My order of samples from Vahdam on Amazon arrived just now
I'll work my way through them this week
Drinking the Darjeeling now, its not bad

Any of you tried them? thoughts?

bump

>>10933687
Can anyone give me advice on Middle Eastern tea? I tried asking on leddit but didn't get any answers.

What's the best type of Middle Eastern tea, I've heard of Turkish Tea, Persian Tea, Moroccan mint tea. Seems like there is quite a lot of variety.

Currently I drink Sencha and Longjing, but I want a black tea for the Morning and Afternoon that I can eat with some sweets and get some energy

>>10951046
I'm interested in Moroccan mint tea myself. It's a Chinese green tea--usually Chunmee--but mixed with mint leaves and sugar. It sounds delicious. Dunno much about black teas, though.

>>10951181
It is delicious! I would have it when smoking shisha in Tangier, helps cleanse the smokiness from the palette. Very sweet and refreshing

>>10951046
What about masala chai? I've been meaning to make that as well as >>10951181 's Moroccan mint tea. Anyone have any good recipes? I have some Bi Luo Chun green tea at home.

>>10936834
>only supposed to steep tea for 4-6 min
This is news to me. I always steep coffee and tea until it's room temp then I drink. I'll have to change it up and see how different it tastes.

my gf is bi and she had me try pu'er for the first time the other day, it was really interesting and rich in flavor, good with milk

>>10951046
>What's the best type of Middle Eastern tea, I've heard of Turkish Tea, Persian Tea, Moroccan mint tea. Seems like there is quite a lot of variety.

interesting
don't know where I can buy them tho

My green teas started tasting salty recently. Am I doing something wrong? I've been drinking Gyokuro and Sencha. I don't have this problem with black tea.

>>10952935
Salty? I know Japanese green teas tend to have an umami/savory flavor, but I've never heard of specifically salty teas.

>>10953166
Some Gyokuro might have a salty flavor.

>>10951046
is this your set anon?

My gf always smells like puerh when she comes back from seeing her friends. She also has become more secretive about her activities. I think she's cheating on me with her lesbian tea friends but I can't confront her because I might be violently assaulted.

>>10954632
ye

>>10954632
A girl I fuck sometimes told me my cum taste like pu'erh.

>>10954839
stop drinking lesbian, dude
you turning into a pu'erh

>>10954606
No it's a pic online, but I've seen a bunch of similar sets on the online Turkish Bazaar

>>10951382
it wont be as strong obviously, but it should be far less bitter and tannic. If you prefer stronger tea, you are supposed to use more tea, not steep longer.

Is it just me, or is Teavivre the greatest online vendor right now? Also, drinking some menghai shou right now

>>10957151
Their teas are pretty good. I might order some more from them in the near future. Anything you'd recommend?

>>10957186
See if they're still running their sample deal. I think you get to pick out 5 or so, and you only have to pay for shipping. Their oolongs and green tea are surprisingly high quality. Definitely recommend their organic dragonwell and tie guan yin. Their selection of pu-erh isn't amazing compared to Yunnan Sourcing, but their ripes are very very nice for the cost. Also highly recommend their white teas.

>>10957186
Anything but the pooair.

>>10957263
this

>>10944225
>Every time I've ordered from there the order comes with a handwritten note and a sample he chucks in for free.
VerdantTea does that too.

>>10959331
Yep. It's a nice gesture imo

>>10951046
is there really any variety in mint tea? I can't imagine there being too much noticeable differences between various blends of mint tea. It's just dried spearmint after all, which as opposed to actual tea doesn't take ridiculously long to mature and doesn't require a complex fermentation process. Just get some dried mint and steep it, together with some sugar. It tastes like mint and pleasantly so.

>>10957251
>>10957263
I agree, their ripes are pretty solid for the price. Wouldn't touch the raws for sure though.

>>10960612
Mint tea is actually green tea with an infusion of mint anon

>>10957186
https://www.teavivre.com/organic-long-jing-green-tea.html

This shit right here is the greatest dragonwell I've ever had, and I've had a few. Just a bit more expensive than their other dragonwell but very well worth it.

>>10961918
>cryptochronologic
reguhler tea

hi

>>10961948
wut

>>10961981
Huh?

>>10961965
tfw no "dodag yeri"
:\

>>10933687
same thing i always drink. lipton black brewed in the summer morning sun until i get back from work, inside a 75 year old gallon glass pickle jar, served in a mug i keep in the freezer, with fresh sliced lemon from the tree in my backyard.

It's the way my father did it, and his father before him. Same jar too.

>>10961981
>>10962981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmFp0I8AZqw

>>10960612
This may sound crazy but, you could add mint to any imaginable blend. That's it. Automatic new mint blend teass!

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>>10966149
I don't think mint and pu-erh would go well together.

>>10964506
that's lovely anon.

>>10966876
The only thing that mixes with pu'erh is lesbians and domestic violence.

>>10933687
>what are you drinking atm?
Lipton decaffeinated.
>loose-leaf or sachet?
Bag with a string.
>post pics of your teaware
It's a shitty coffee mug.
>what would you recommend for first-timers?
Try to realize tea culture is massively up it's own butthole, just like coffee and post-modernist art, and that it's not worth taking that seriously. Find something that you can afford every day and something expensive you really enjoy for special occasions and try not to give it much more thought than that, as there are many things more worthy of spending time on than boiled leaves.

>>10935331
use tea bag you moron

Has anyone tried Oswego tea? Has anyone tried making tea with the leaves and flowers of Franklinia alatamaha? What's it taste like? Is it good?

>>10968574
yeah, but do they like come with instructions? how thorough are they? do i need some kind of tea intuition for some parts of the process?

>>10968839
For pre-bagged:
1. Boil water.
2. Put bag in cup.
3. Pour water into cup
4. Take out after 1 minute, longer if you prefer stronger.

For loose leaf:
1. Put tea leaves in bag.
2. Tie bag so tea leaves can't escape.
3. See step 1 in pre-bagged section.

>>10968994
more like 3 mins brah

>>10969092
Nah. Most convenience store bought tea come in their dirt version, so a minute it's okay. You could even leave the thing there the entire time, it will taste like nothingness all the same.

>>10944225
YS may have decent tea - I dont really know because I avoid them due to their shilling and anonymous slagging of other vendors. Marketing videos are very anally retentive, esp. those with oolong drunk, and despite their reputation all their tasting videos can say is 'oh it's smooth' or 'oh it's sweet'.

There is no Coffee General, can we make this tea/coffee general?

What are y'alls thoughts on Darjeeling tea and Oolong tea? Whenever I tried green tea, I end up feeling unwell either by some sort of headache or dizziness. Anyone else get this too? Granted, I haven't tried loose-leaf green tea. Whats the difference in taste between powdered Matcha and green leafs?

>>10971164
make a coffee thread. When both die, try making a combined general.

Never thought I'd say this about bottled tea, but this shit right here is really good

I feel that bottled (ice) tea is forcing its way into the diet soda soda market.

>>10971804
Where do you buy it? I'd like to give it a try.

>>10971727
My absolute favorite green teas are green Oolongs. Loose leaf. With multiple short steppings some of them can yield >1L with 2g. Never felt unwell.

>>10968399
so much this

>>10972579
My local grocery store has it in the bottled tea section, but you might be able to find it in asian markets. I recommend the oolong, it genuinely tastes like a decent TGY

>>10935400
>brew water

>>10974548
Obviously supposed to be boil water.

>>10971804
That's because it's an Ito En brand and if anyone knows how to make a decent bottled tea, it's the Japanese.

Can anyone suggest me a new infuser that will not destroy after 2 months?
I drink my tea at the job and I am tired of shitty one that leak or get broken.
I hate using a small ball to put my tea in a travel mug because the leafs don't open adequately.

>>10977349
Get a french press. No seriously, a french press is a great way to brew tea. Just don't actually "press" the tea and don't use one press for both tea and coffee.

>what are you drinking atm?
Currently about to try some indian green tea called Risheehat Green from Darjeeling. I had no idea they made greens.
>loose-leaf or sachet?
Loose
>post pics of your teaware
Along with my cluttered everything
>what would you recommend for first-timers?
What brought me to really try and get into good tea was Kung Markatta's tea bags. They were so much better than any other bags I had tried.

>>10977406
I have used French press for a while, I even used Mason jar as a Gaiwan before buying my travel tea set.
I think I didn't worded my request properly.
I am working mostly outside and I just use hot water to top my infuser. Right now, I am just using my travel mug with loose leafs. But I need to just use tea that have big leafs.
>tfw no more chai at the job
When I am at home, I have a Gaiwan, Yixing teapot for pu'erh and a big teapot for when I am lazy.

>>10977406
>you haven't had a
>sip
>until you've had them both in the same french press at the same time

>>10960612
>doesn't require a complex fermentation process.
There's a Chinese farm that puts some herbal teas through the same process as actual tea. They haven't done it with mint, but I bet someone could.

I'm drinking the bi luo chun I got about a month ago from Health Tea House, god bless those chinks
it's loose leaf
I'm drinking it in a common looking mug so not much to see, I'll post a picture of my yixing teapot when I get some new tea to steep in it
for first timers I would recommend a tea sampler from their local tea shop or one from health tea house, theirs was pretty good when I bought it, I can't imagine it having become much worse

anybody know of a mainland china tea that's similar enough to dong ding (lightly roasted taiwanese oolong, sweet, nutty, bread-y)?
dong ding is hardly available from any reputable source under ~€25/100g

>>10933687

>what are you drinking atm?
I'm on holiday atm and haven't been drinking much, but when I get home I'll resume my Taiwanese oolong binging.
>loose-leaf or sachet?
I'll occasionally settle for bagged when I'm out of the house, but on my own terms it's loose or nothing.
>post pics of your teaware
Don't have any on me atm.
>what would you recommend for first-timers?
Any ripe/shou pu'er that's not dirt cheap and that comes from a reputable source, it's a very different sort of tea than what most people are used to, while being much more accessible than the technically superior sheng.

>>10938437
>maybe i should buy a new gaiwan
it's like $5 my man

>>10941852
>>10947357
sounds comfy af

>>10942092
At the risk of stirring up some shit I'll rec Mei Leaf in Camden Town. I was there a few days ago, bought their last cake of Monocle Boss; very much look forward to trying it when I get home.

>>10951474
>good with milk
Keep trying it without, you might surprise yourself.

>>10979005
Do wuyi oolongs not fit the bill? I'm not too experienced with dong ding, but they seem awfully similar.

>>10936799
Buy multiple jugs and put in a new jug every time you take one out and you'll only have to wait 8 hours once.

>>10933687
Dat walmart cheesecake why would you eat dat?.

>>10979205
>do wuyi oolongs not fit the bill?
haven't tried 3 out of 4 of the famous wuyi oolongs, but judging from da hong pao and lapsang souchong & the fact that all 4 should be pretty highly oxidised, I imagine they aren't even close
I'll see if I can find some bai jiguan or shui jin gui, but sadly those seem harder than dong ding to come by

thanks for the idea still, I'll report back if I end up getting some of those

>>10979205
>Recommmending pu'er for the first time

I don't know man. It's different from regular tea which is interesting. But all I can think of is stable with the one I have tried.

>>10979227
some of us want to hurt ourselves
just to see if we can still feel

Got a bag of longjing tea, recommended steep times? how much grams of tea you lads toss in for a cuppa

>>10979340
Eh, it's not for everyone. But you can get a decent one without spending much, and it's at least worth trying.

>>10979005
>enough to dong ding
how about ding dong?

Is there any tea that tastes of anything? I love the idea of tea, but every type I’ve tried has been practically tasteless except Earl Grey, which I don’t like

>>10979364
Mine came with instructions for 3-4g,2dl water, 80 degrees, 1-2 min. Works well for me.

>>10979432
See >>10979340

>>10979205
>mei leaf
I like their stuff on youtube