/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10931124
Also, it isn't just America where the French have fallen out of favor. On the World's 50 Best Restaurant list -- voted on by 1000 culinary experts from around the globe -- only two French establishments managed to crack the top 20.

I think the cold, hard truth is that French food is seen as old school (not in a good way), and often too reliant on richness. It's grandma (and rapidly becoming great grandma) food. Nobody wants an overpriced plate of escargot or boeuf bourguignon in a stuffy atmosphere when they could go to an Asian fusion place instead.

Don't get me wrong -- French Restaurants can serve some fine tasting food. Absolutely. But it's overrated and calling it the "best food in the world" simply isn't supported by observing how actual people in the real world vote with their money.

Nice blog

>>10931137
You're welcome. French food is still overrated though.

>>10931124
>French restaurants were very popular in America in the past.
America also used to be more than 56% white.

I like French food, I'd love to be able to learn how to cook genuine haute cuisine, just don't know how.

>>10931159

Not really relevant. First, as income increases, things get whiter. The target demographic of a quality french restaurant still exists in America. But they aren't interested.

>>10931186
>as income increases, things get whiter
this is objectively false. People earn more in cities and cities are known to become "multicultural" hells.

cause french restaurant is not that accessible to flyover
even italian restaurants is accessibles to flyovers
go into a small podunk town and you'll probably find an italian or a local pizza joint

the french need to start casualizing their food
they don't have to go full on flyover, but at least make it more simple to eat on the go

If OP is an autistic namefag who spams the board with non-stop low quality garbage, why do people keep replying to him?

>>10931426
Crepe shops should be more popular, they're quick to make, all customizable, sweet or salty, even vegan crepes exist, and you can eat it while walking around.

>>10931389

Wages being higher in cities isn't relevant here. Why? Because even though wages may be higher in cities, and even though cities have a higher percentage of minorities, it overwhelmingly isn't the minorities in those cities who are working the high dollar jobs.

Whites and asians objectively earn more than blacks and latinos on average, whether you're in an urban area or not. And my original assertion -- that things are whiter as income rises -- is absolutely correct.

Fact: 76% of US millionaires are white.

>>10931124
French cuisine is mostly just baked cream.

>>10931676
French cuisine is mostly just ice cream.

>>10931124
>If French cuisine is so great, why are French restaurants pretty much a thing of the past in the US?
because this is what americans eat

>>10931691
sweet meme. Already addressed in the OP. Fine dining in the US is doing great. The market for consumers wanting to buy quality meals is healthy, and the dollars are there to be made.

But what that market segment wants isn't stuffy French food.

>>10931691
>(((Nathan's)))
>"American"
Hmmmmmm

>>10931124

Because Americans have the shittiest taste of all the nations under the sun. Now fuck off.

>>10931124
most of the popular french cousine is "high class" or people associate the name with high class, French dont really have any well know budget dishes so of course french will become a niche next to pizza, curry, fried rice, sushi, tacos, kebab, etc etc etc

>>10931124

Because they don't serve hot wings.

>>10931738

Found the butthurt brainlet. Weird how so many michelin star restaurants are in the US what with no customers to eat there since we all have terrible taste.

>>10931751
>>10931757

Here's the problem: There are plenty of people in America willing to spend money at high end restaurants. More than ever, in fact. The city of Chicago has 35 michelin star restaurants that manage to stay packed.

But even in that segment, French restaurants are underrepresented these days and are far less popular than, say, high class steakhouses.

>>10931751
>French dont really have any well know budget dishes

Ummm sweetie...
>Croque monsieur
>Steak frites
>Pot au feu
>Ratatouille
>Jambon-beurre
>Quiche lorraine
>Soupe à l'oignon

>>10931771
>There are plenty of people in America willing to spend money at high end restaurants
unless you give me hard data, whatever number you are thinking is not high enough. no, if there were true enough people you wont see restaurants (small and big) open and close all the time.

>>10931781
POPULAR anon, that is the magic word, you can ask people on the street a budget french dish and most of em will not know shit..

>>10931781
>giving meme titles to shit cuisine
lmao

>>10931790
ratatouille is actually good, and cheap to make. but putting it together in hte pan is a pain in the ass

any recommendations for good french cookbooks with a focus on traditional foods?

>>10931124
French food is good, it's just those more common nationalities you listed are better.

>>10931787

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-agenda-casual-dining-20170918-story.html

>Americans still love eating out. Consumer spending at restaurants and other food vendors, including beverage sales, stood at an inflation-adjusted annual rate of $605 billion in the second quarter, up 4% from $584 billion two years earlier, according to the U.S. Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis.

>But much of that growth has been outside of the casual-dining sector in areas such as inexpensive fast-food chains, "fast casual" outlets such as Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc. and Panera Bread Co., takeout and delivery services, and independent restaurants — both mid-priced and upscale — that deliver a higher perceived value, analysts said.

It's the shitty mid level chain restaurants like TGI Fridays and Applebees that are suffering.

Something else I invite you to consider is the World's 50 Best Restaurant ranking list (only two French restaurants cracked the top 20) and where Michelin stars are going to these days.

Check out the michelin restaurants in Chicago, San Francisco, and New York. French joints are looking mighty scarce in those lists.

>>10931389
Wages vs. price of living faggot. As a person froma rapidly growing city I'm way poorer on 11 dollars an hour in a city than a bumpkin making minimum wage in the country.

>>10931805

Julia Child has several.

>>10931389
>thinking the successful people that work in cities live in those brown 3rd world shitholes
just lmao

>>10931817
wasn't she glow-in-the-dark cia lmao
>The food plan I just filed with the Recipe lists me, my men, and Mr. Parry here. But only one of you!

>>10931814
stop being poor then

>>10931818
but they do, the poor people commute from the suburbs.

>>10931124
>If French cuisine is so great, why are French restaurants pretty much a thing of the past in the US
Because they realize eating snails is gross

>>10931826
It's the other way around; the poor welfare monkeys live in the cities while the rich commute from their white suburbs.

>>10931824
>that's probably bullshit
>I'd better check anyway though
>holy shit

>>10931826
>the poor people commute from the suburbs

Either gr8 b8 or you have no idea what you're talking about. Literally the opposite situation. If you're wondering how poor minorities afford to live in such expensive cities, the answer is that they live in inner city slums and get welfare. Diversity is subsidized.

>>10931771
In the US, the nouveau riche are low class, uncultured swine who prefer mcdicks and well done steak with ketchup to the pinnacle of western cuisine, french. Money ultimately corrupts and rots all noble human qualities including food and culture.

>>10931832
>>10931839
what shitty country do you live in? Inner city houses and apartments are literally in the millions here. Middle class gets to share with the working and welfare class to commute up to an hour to get into the CBD.

>>10931852
>Inner city houses
suburbs. And yes there are expensive apartments, but they are generally only temporary for the rich rather than the normal situation of the average city dweller which tend to poor mud monkeys living in public housing.

>>10931124
It's a bit of a numbers game, Nick. A hundred years ago, what proportion of the citizens of France were not ethically French? How many ethnically French people were moving to the US and starting restaurants? How about now?

>>10931851

Yes, yes, I know that you'd like to run from reality by reeeeeeing about Amerimutts.

Here's your trouble: There are plenty of thriving, high quality restaurants to be found in the US. Why are so few of them French?

>>10931852

I live in the US, formerly Chicago and now in Orlando. I don't know if you've ever lived in a large US city, but there's a reason the phrase "inner city" is functionally synonymous with "shitty slum" here.

>>10931867
This sounds good at first, but doesn't hold water.

There are only about 1.3 million Japanese people in the US today. Yet Japanese restaurants are very common.

More than 2 million Americans speak French as a primary language.

>>10931866
>>10931873
ah, so your problem isn't poor people, just ethnics. Not every country has your problems, don't assume the whole world operates like America.

>>10931886
But ITT we're talking about American markets. Mind the context, anon.

>your problem isn't poor people, just ethnics

They aren't really "my problem" since I live in a nice neighborhood and don't really deal with them. But that isn't the point. The point is that while incomes are higher in US cities, that the people earning those salaries mostly aren't ethnics. The reason that distinction matters here is because the market that we'd expect French restaurants to compete in (affluent whites) still exists.

>>10931124
>uhhhhhh French menus are underrepresented
>posts no proof
here's my proof that they aren't:
all tasting menus are French
anything over 3 dollar signs on your shitty yelp website is French
now kill yourself for samefagging over 20 posts in your terrible thread before you get doxed and killed you fucking fag

>>10931900
There are a ton of French restaurants on the UES and UWS, flyover wastelands in the deep south don't count as "cities" nikki-kun

>>10931905

Here's an exercise for the brainlet. Go pull up a list of American restaurants that have been awarded michelin stars. What percentage of them are French?

>>10931906

Pull up a list of Michelin star restaurants in San Francisco and in New York. Notice anything? They overwhelmingly aren't French, particularly in San Francisco.

Nobody is denying that you can find French restaurants in the US. The point is that they don't command much of a market share compared to other styles even in the same price range.

>>10931880
There's a difference between Frenchmen and Francophones, Nick.
>More than 2 million Americans speak French as a primary language.
Consider the Cajuns in the south, the Québecois in the northeast, and the untold number of colored ex-colonials immigrating both directly from Africa as well as via France. See the bottom-right of pic related. I'd hazard to guess that the Ethnically-French-From-France make up a very small portion of those 2M Francophones in the US.

>>10931923

Ethnically French from France possibly OUTNUMBER those 2M Francophones. Per the US census bureau in 2000, 5.3 million Americans are French or French Canadian.

>>10931125
Old school and hearty but definitely nothing to rave home about.

>>10931923

And in any case, the original point still stands -- small representation doesn't seem to dictate the ability of a particular cuisine style to thrive.

Take Thai restaurants for example. They're everywhere. And yet, there are only 237,000 or so Thais in the entire US.

>>10931933
Are you intentionally being obtuse? when I say 'From France' I mean born in France, hence carrying over France-French culture to the US. New France was established before the 13 Colonies, so it's fair to say that French Canadian culture is at least as different from France, as Americans are from the British

>>10931944

So, where are you going with this? The particular number of first generation French immigrants doesn't really detract from the point that appealing food will sell regardless of representation. And are we just going to ignore 2nd or 3rd generation French immigrants? Do you figure that they identify less with their heritage than say 2nd or 3rd generation thais or japanese?

How many 1st generation Italians are in the US these days?

>>10931944
>Are you intentionally being obtuse?
>55 posts
>20 uniques
what do you think? he's obviously just trying to bait now

>>10931919
>>10931909
First, you're moving moving the goalposts now
Second, it's a higher percent than you think. "New American" is French Nouvelle Cuisine with some additional New World ingredients and a wine list stacked with California wines instead of French wines

>>10931124
>Economic theory would predict that if the product were good, it would be in demand and we would see entrepreneurs filling that demand
Quality is one thing, trends and novelty are another. IMHO people just got tired of it.

Meanwhile, is there such a thing as america fine cuisine? I live abroad and besides fast food I never seen a restaurant advertising itself as american.

>>10931973
People didn't get tired of it, it was just that until the 1970s in America the entire concept of fine dining was wrapped up in French symbolism, from the 80s onwards people were starting to learn about other countries and new options came on the table. French never went away any more than "Jews replaced the proud white man". Diversity happened, and only a few simpletons got confused.

And yes, there is "American fine cuisine", it's called New American, it was basically invented by James Beard, and it's impossible to draw a line between it and modern French cuisine, since Beardy (along with anyone else that matters in American food culture) learned everything from French people, in France.

>>10931973

Hey anon,

Nick Parry here. I saw your post asking about whether or not "American" style high end restaurants exist and that your suspicion is based on a lack of advertising. The answer is that they do exist, but that high quality restaurants in the US typically don't advertise with billboards and TV commercials and so forth. At the high end of things, those sort of advertisements would be seen as tacky. Instead, advertising is usually done by word of mouth at the high end and customers are often "selected for".

For example, if you're in New York on business at a high end stay at a Hotel with concierge service, if you ask them for dining recommendations they are probably going to be familiar with a number of high end restaurants in the city.

>>10932005
>Hey anon,
>Nick Parry here.
>trying to draw attention to your namefagging because everyone ignored it because no one cares
yikes

>>10931124
Even if there’s a lower amount of French restaurants, the influence of French cuisine is second to none. And even if those fine dining establishments aren’t French, they are still mostly using French techniques and dishes are inspired by haute French cuisine.

>>10932012
Hey anon,

Nick Parry here. I saw your post commenting about my namefagging and felt compelled to respond. First, this whole "anonymous" thing doesn't really sit right with me. I'm not ashamed of who I am, and want my opinions to be known. Second, it really is important in business to build your brand online. Getting a web presence on sites like Twitter, Instagram, and more recently Reddit and 4chan is new for me but I'm working on it.

Love,

Nick Parry, CEO of Parry Tire & Auto

>>10932001
Interesting, didn't know about 'Beardy'. I also wanted to ad that french fine cuisine cannot compete with the current flood of world street food.

>>10932017

Yes, the Thais, Mexicans, Italians, Murrican' BBQ joints, and Japs are relying on French techniques and Haute-inspired dishes.

>>10932005
I rather meant claiming instead of advertising. My bad.

>>10932030
I clearly said in the post the fine dining establishments. The ones with Michelin stars and whatnot.

>>10932037
Poor Nick probably cannot afford that.

>>10932029
>I also wanted to ad that french fine cuisine cannot compete with the current flood of world street food.
Your poor is showing. They are not in competition with one another. Street food is good. Tim Ho Wan is not a substitute for EMP.

Also, street food does not deserve stars, that was a mistake, it belongs in the bib gourmand list which was the whole point of having a bib gourmand list. To show that good food does not have to be fine dining.

>>10931949
>How many 1st generation Italians are in the US these days?
How much authentic/traditional Italian cuisine is there in the US these days? Give it enough time and it morphs into "Italian-American," something all its own. Cajun cuisine is probably the closest thing to a French analogue to Italian-American cooking

>>10932030
>Yes, the Thais, Mexicans, Italians, Murrican' BBQ joints, and Japs are relying on French techniques and Haute-inspired dishes.
This but unironically

>>10932041

>How much authentic/traditional Italian cuisine is there in the US these days?

More than there is traditional French cuisine, I can tell you that much.

>>10932057
You obviously haven't got a clue what traditional Italian food actually looks like, but here's another (You) so we can get this thread to bump limit more quickly

>>10931124

>>10932061
or you can sage and let him spam post so he can get banned

>>10932061
Son, I've eaten prosciutto from a whore's asshole in Rome. I know what Italian tastes like.

>>10931124
You're a faggot

>>10931125
>Absolutely. But it's overrated
top wasting our time with "I'll talk a lot of nonsense, BUT here's my sitty edgy teenager cnclusion unrelated to it anyway" posting, this isn't your high school presentation class.

>>10931970
This, this, THIS. Too many people think of cuisines as discrete, monolithic entities when they constantly evolve and borrow from each other, much like any other cultural aspect. It's as absurd as claiming Latin is extinct when it simply evolved into all of the Romance Languages today.

>>10931186
>Not really relevant.
but that's your on side of the argument whe you complain about "old vs young" shit it's lliterally the PC way of saying it. have you ever seen someone bringing non white culture as "old and overrated"? Being non white is legally forced to mean young and dynamic. Even if you sell thousand year old mud cakes

>>10931758

Michelin doesn't equate to 'good food' you utter plebeian. Especially in the US. The mere existence of prestigious restaurants doesn't automatically mean that Americans are tasteful. Even here in Europe many Michelin starred restaurants that are garbage.

Fine dining in your shithole country is red lobster or olive garden. That is the stone cold truth and speaks volumes about your people.

>>10931933
>get hard fat
>nononono my side is POSSIBLY better because I use BOLD words.
fuck off, you lost. That was your last hit point.

>>10932124
Imagine missing his point THIS hard. Cuisines become 'new' and 'hip' despite the old traditions within them because new people are taking them up. An idea is only as old as the people who hold it, and classic French cuisine is giving way to its descendants and other international cuisines getting better exposure.

>>10931811
3/4 of those restaurant made their name in french cuisine, it's not because they claim to be anything else that it means it's true
They all use french technique, french recipe and even french chef
That's all

>>10932128
Red Lobster and Olive Garden are legitimately better than any restaurant in France.

>>10931124
Why do we call French Fries Freedom Fries? Because distancing ourselves from the French is important.

Eat at Freedom Restaurants.

>>10932128
>critically acclaimed restaurants are bad restaurants

While I agree that Michelin isn't the literal book on good cuisine, panning the guide itself is something only a retarded contrarian would do. You have NO idea how much blood and tears someone has to pour into their craft in order to get a single star. Getting just one is proof you're in a different class.

>>10932149
>he actually bought Geedub Bush's Iraq-War propaganda

I, too, enjoy being told by Washington who I should love and hate.

french cooking is a big part of the DNA of like >80% of fine dining restaurants. *traditional* french food might be less popular than it used to be, but you really can't say french influence is not still dominant.

>Nobody wants an overpriced plate of escargot or boeuf bourguignon in a stuffy atmosphere when they could go to an Asian fusion place instead.
asian fusion quite often has a fair bit of french influence in it. also you clearly have a very narrow conception of what french cooking is. maybe you should go to more restaurants.

My guess is the usual ebb and flow of the industry. What was popular is now out, etc. Everything passes with new fads. Even the wing craze will pass.

>>10932165
Good to see someone else agree with my viewpoint in >>10932121. For some reason, hardcore nationalists/traditionalists want their style of cuisine to be popular, yet bitch and whine when it naturally evolves like any other idea and refuse to admit that it was the product of many foreign influences anyway. Cultures are a human construct, and are as mutable as we are.

>>10932121
>It's as absurd as claiming Homo Habilis is extinct when it simply evolved into Homo Sapiens today.

>>10931124
Because it's terrible.

>>10932198
>implying ideas are as mortal and limited as physical entities

As long as there are people speaking English, Spanish, German etc., humanity will still require knowledge of Latin in order to truly understand them. Likewise, the classical techniques of French cooking will never die out as long as French-inspired cooking continues to be popular.

Italy is superior anyway. I have eaten pizza and pasta every day for this whole year so far. They came up with the best food and Americans tweaked it a bit to make it even better

Thank you Italy

>>10931691
that's a lot of ketchup

Because hipsters get tired of everything in 5 minutes. Today's it's Pho, tomorrow it will be the cuisine of East Timor. After that, Antarctican braised penguin feet. After that, space dust. After that, the abstract notion of satiety.

>>10932226
How much do you weigh?

>>10931124
The internet opened people up to many different cuisines. People just want variety and other cuisines have just been splitting up the spotlight more and more. there is no single truly dominant cuisine like french cuisine once was. It's funny, truly french cuisine is somewhat trendy in large cities. It is now a part of the simple, modestly presented but very flavorful category. Sort of like what you'd get at St John. People think highly of french cuisine because it helped paved the way.

>>10934152
Interesting insight, but isn't French cuisine (Or rather, the regional cuisines of France?) good in its own right, rather than paving the way for something? What did you mean by paved the way? Thanks!

Is there such thing as casual French food? I feel like I only hear about their fine dining.

Ok, you dipshits. Cuisine is based on produce. Produce is based on equatorial positioning and other climate factors.

Now that the entire planet is connected, french cuisine had to work really had not to suck. Like English cuisine had to work really hard and still suck.

You want utterly amazing food, you go to thailand, malaysia, places that can grow amazing produce and seafood.

It's as utterly as simple as where you are in the world and now the world is connected.

>>10933999
I am 5'7, 130 pounds

I run 3 times a week

>>10931124
Because food is literally all about fads and the current fad is wacky ethnic food from the mysterious and foreboding far east. Give it ten years and the fads will circle back around and classic European cuisine will be back in fashion again.

>>10931868
Because most americans hate all things french since 2003 FOR SOME REASON.

>>10932078
Eating knock-off ham off the ass of an african immigrant who was forced into prostitution by the Mafia in a multicultural capital city is anything BUT italian, you ignorant american.

>>10931124
because mexican food is more american than french fries

>>10933999
Projection: the post

If "cutting carbs" didn't help you not be a fat fuck, why would not cutting carbs turn someone else into a fat fuck?

Get some exercise, fatty

>>10932128

We have amazing food from all over the world in America. The best cooks leave their shitholes to come here.

>>10936915
I would come in your shithole

>>10931124
You've got the frogs all pissed off, but you're 100% correct.
So this ought to get them really pissed off; there doing bad even in their own country:
>Last year, outraged headlines worldwide announced that as many as 70 percent of the restaurants in France were using ready-made meals produced offsite at large industrial kitchens. The real surprise was that anyone was surprised. France’s culinary tradition has been withering for decades, the decline reflected in any number of data points — from the disappearance of raw-milk cheeses (less than 10 percent of all French cheeses are lait cru now) to the fall in French wine consumption (down by more than 50 percent since the 1960s) to the fact that France has become McDonald’s’ second-most-profitable market in the world. Since the late 1990s, Paris has come to be regarded as a dull, predictable food city. The real excitement is in London, Tokyo, New York, Copenhagen, San Sebastian.
>Suddenly, though, Paris is showing signs of renewed vigor, much of it coming from an unexpected source: Young foreign chefs. The city’s most-sought-after tables now are at places like Spring, whose chef, Daniel Rose, is American, and Bones, whose chef, James Henry, is Australian.
OH NO NO NO NO

>>10936946
I feel like you should have left off the last line, since it kinda contradicts your premise

Funny coïncidence it turns out lesser and lesser people read books in the US. Would there be à correlation?

>>10936953
How so? Its absolutely the cherry on top. 90% of the responses on this thread are
>Murrica are fat and can't cook good, this is why French food is failing in the US
Yet we are the new gastronomic capital of the world and foreign chefs including Americans are outcompeting French chefs in their home country.

>>10931124
The same reason French comics aren't popular in America. France doesn't care about sharing their shit with Americans.

I love French food, France was one of the best cuisines i got to experience, along with Italy. Frankly i care nothing for what the general public thinks, most people are trend following lemmings anyways.

France had to work its ass off for cuisine. Or this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mwq3-Y7II

French food is too good for Americunts.

>>10936963
French food has been taking foreign influences since day 1. French wine wouldn't even exist without the Romans. Anyone claiming that a non-French-born chef having success in Paris is a sign of the end times doesn't know anything about France or French food

>>10936963
>>10937008
Also I don't know what you mean by "we", since you are discussing a post that mentions France, Japan, the US, Denmark, Spain, and Australia, you really should clarify. I assume you are either French or American. French because that's the country in question, and American because Americans always assume every passing comment or discussion must be about America even when it's obviously not.

>>10937008

Alright Vercin Getorix. Spare me your "Roman" influence. Most of the Gauls were long dead before modern French cuisine. Or maybe you can dig up Escoffier and explain it to him.

>>10937020
Spare you? It's a basic historical fact. I guess you think name dropping "obscure" names like Escoffier makes you sound like you have a point, but if you do, I'm not sure what it is.

>>10937027

Auguste Escoffier was the modern french chef. He coined "french serving". I'm saying that the gaulish people didn't have anything to do with modern French cuisine. Wine was Roman, but that's it.

>>10937033
Yes, the reason I put "obscure" in quotes is to mock you for thinking Escoffier is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

>>10932140
Based Nicholas Parryposter

>>10937039

Why did you bring up the Romans? They failed in 300AD. You just sounded fucking stupid.

So maybe we can advance to French Alpine cows and how their cheeses are made? Maybe some of you dipshits have Netflix.

>>10937043
Because they literally introduced viticulture to France. What difference does it make if it was 2000 years ago? You're railing against "degenerate" influences on the eternal unchanging France as if it proves that France is "over", whereas all it shows is that France is continuing its tradition of absorbing influences from foreign gastronomy.

>>10937058

It's like talking to a potato. Modern french cuisine has nothing to do with ancient viticulture. But some stupid asshole brought it up. French food was from the 1800s to now. Savvy? Jesus fuck its like talking to legos.

>>10937064
Funny you should mention potatoes - a new world ingredient, along with tomatoes, chocolate, and a lot of other things that retards think are essential parts of "traditional' [sic] French foods. So it looks like your ethnonationalist fantasy is actually kinda incoherent. Maybe that's why you're feeling so confused right now, but
Le Pen lost. I think it's time you accepted it and moved on.

>>10936946
No one in France cares if burgers don't want to eat foie gras and terrine.

What happened to Nicholas Parry? He used to be a cool dude in a lovely relationship. Now he's just some anti-French normie.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2018/03/20/france-taken-by-hamburger-hysteria-with-1-5-billion-swallowed-per-year
les mecs... on a perdu... c'est fini...

>>10937191
>Every type of burger outsells 1 specific type of sandwich
This is a really poorly written article.

>>10935959

Yeah. Cafes and bistros. And they often do just fine in the US. Quick, casual spot where you can grab lunch.

>>10931144
No it isn't. Micro Gastronomy wouldn't be where it is today without the French.

only retards with their heads up their asses ever had anything nice to say about french food
stuffy french faggots pretending they invented cooking technique just because they made up useless vocabulary

>julienne
also known as "cut into little sticks"
>mise en place
also known as "get your shit ready before you start working you fucking morans"
the fact that there is even culinary school in the first place is a joke. Nigger you can just cook at home for free, like LMAO

>>10932128
SEETHING OBSESSED YUROPOOR

We have plenty of modern french restaurants in my neighborhood. They're all decent quality, pretty cheap, and of course all HALAL.

>>10937771

> Tour of the Paris no go zones with women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y597ZkuhhsA&t=

>>10937191
how did they even collect that data? mc donalds data, OK, but a sandwich sold by millions of independant restaurant, bakeries and pub + supermaket industrial shit?

>>10937070
>300 year old food isn't traditional!
hahaha
HAHAHAHAHAAH

>>10937870
I would assume the info comes from meat wholesalers + some math. If you know how much weight of ground beef is shipped you can calculate the approx. number of burgers that would make.

>>10937779

London is basically our detroit, a festering shithole.

Paris is like our Chicago, right at the dege of the abyss and about to tip over.