/ck/ - Food & Cooking

use more fat, most non-stick coatings will not last forever, and a well seasoned pan takes maintenance. Or, just buy cheap non-stick pans from goodwill periodically

>>10880391
>non stick
>lasts forever
No such thing. I'm not one of those people who's saying you should never use a non stick, but they are essentially expendable goods that should be replaced regularly, which means you're best of buying the cheaper ones.

>>10880391
why do people think that buying cookware is such a commitment? There is literally no reason to spend more than $15 on a pan/knife/eating utensils

>>10880391
>What is the best non stick pan that lasts forever?
There isn't one.
CI lasts forever but it takes a little bit of effort to maintain.
Teflon nonstick has superior nonstick properties but they wear out eventually. Still, you can get several years out of the better ones even with regular use, unless you fuck up. I have a pair of Eagleware/Alegacy nonsticks. One is going on 7 years now and needs to be replaced fairly soon. The other I've had for 6 years and is still great.

>>10880410
>why do people think that buying cookware is such a commitment?
Most purchases are commitments, unless you are buying cheap shit you'll be throwing away and that's an even worse problem.

>>no reason
If you microwave dogfood, maybe. A good knife requires sharpening far less often, that saves you time. Nicer cookware gives better results in the kitchen. You don't have to go full gearfag, but $15 for all that is hamstringing you.

>>10880410
>tfw just spent $80 on a bottle opener

>>10880420
How long should teflon last?
Like if i make myself an omellet every day, how long until i can no longer simply shake the pan to make the omelette slide around?

>>10880445
That's less of an issue. It's more about health concerns when the coating starts to come of. As soon as you see any kind of damage on the surface, you should replace it, since teflon is really cancerous.

>>10880474
Then what material do i use? everyone hates on aluminimum, teflon will make go go full steve jobs, cast iron is shit because of uneven heat distribution and everything sticking unless you autistically maintain a grease layer...
so what is a hungry skelly to do then in these dark times?

>>10880445
I'd say if you take care of your pan properly you can expect ~3 years from Walmart tier stuff and 6+ years from professional.

>>10880474
Overreacting. Teflon is inert. You can eat it and you'll just poop it right out again. The whole point of teflon is that it doesn't react with other chemicals, which is why it has industrial uses, including contact with acids far far stronger than human stomach acid. It is also used in various implants, artificial valves and joints, and other things used in surgery. Ingesting bits of teflon is zero risk. What could be a health concern is inhaling the vapors that are formed when teflon is burned. That's a matter of not putting an empty pan on a high flame, not a matter of the age of the pan.

>>10880445
Why would you buy teflon unless you were in an absolute pinch and only had $10 to spend on a throwaway pan? There's tons of other kinds of non-stick in this day and age that wont be completely ruined if a fork touches them. And no, teflon doesn't wear out and lose it's non-stick quality with regular use; it gets scratched easily or ruined with too high of heat, and becomes completely unusable.

1 non stick pan
1 stainless steel pan
1 cast iron or carbonized steel pan
i replace the non stick pan every 2-3 years but the others last forever if you don'T buy cheap china crap.

>>10880497
>tons of other kinds of non-stick in
like what? if i knew shit about pans i wouldn't make a thread
I wan't something that has like zero friction where you have trouble even keeping the food inside because it keeps just sliding out

>>10880479
In my opinion there just isn't any kind of pan or material that's perfect for everything.
I use a well maintained cast-iron for most things (especially meat), and it's coating has pretty decent non-stick properties.
But for eggs and fish I'm still using teflon pans that I regularly swap out, because nothing can compete in the non-stick department.
Steinless steel is pretty good for most tasks, especially sauteing vegetables.

But yeah, if you only want to use one set of pans, you gotta have to accept drawbacks in one area or the other.

>>10880509
99% of food i make is either omelet based or pancake based
i don't mind replacing the pan if it is no sooner than every two years

>>10880497
>Why would you buy teflon unless you were in an absolute pinch and only had $10 to spend on a throwaway pan?
Because teflon works far better than those other materials.

You ever work in a commercial kitchen? You'll often see nonstick but you'll never see that silly green pan, stone finish, "ceramic nonstick" because none of that shit lasts as well as Teflon does.

>>10880498
This guy knows. Different tools for different jobs.

>>10880525
Yeah, than just get a nice, but relatively inexpensive non-stick. Just be careful with metal around them and you should be fine.

Like I said, nothing against non-sticks in general, it's just stupid to spend a lot of money on something you gotta throw out after a couple of years.

I buy a new cast iron every 2-3 months once the seasoning wears off

>>10880507
Aside from cast iron/carbon steel, there's hard anodized aluminum and stone. My go-to egg pan for the last couple years has been a Flonal I picked up on a whim for $15 at a Korean grocery store.

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>>10880565
>hard anodized aluminum
is it more nonstick than a new teflon pan?
I don't that much care about longevity and cancer, all i care about is to have it as nonstick as possible

>>10880391
Get an Emeril Lagasse cast iron pan. Nice and thick, built to last. Get it hot, add some oil, you're good to go.

>>10880479
>cast iron is shit because of uneven heat distribution
Huh? Cast iron heats up beautifully and retains heat well.

>>10880706
No. Teflon is pretty much unsurpassed when it comes to non-stick. If you don't care about longevity just buy a cheap teflon and don't use anything abrasive on it, stack things on/in it, or use it on high heat. Teflon works great if you use it properly, it's just really easy to ruin.

>>10880724
Try putting for example pancake mix on cold cast iron pan and then put it on the stove

>>10880830
>>if you misuse the pan it won't work well