/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10859345

>>10859345
It's absurd that it took longer to tax the fuck out of sugar water than it did to tax cigarettes to death.

>>10859360
PLEASE tell me this is bait

I like how they added the local locations of the other places that are not effected by the tax. Sort of a "We know it is retarded and we hate it too, here is a workaround. Don't complain to us about it, we didn't pass this retarded tax." sort of deal.

>>10859362
Please explain how there is any issue with making extra money off of lardasses while simultaneously discouraging their disgusting eating habits

>>10859405
Because the government should not be telling you what to do. Especially not what to eat if it's not welfare.

>>10859409
The government is not telling you what to do here. No one is stopping you from buying that garbage.

>>10859345
i live less than 5 minutes from the outside of seattle and our stores don't do this, so more like 'just shop anywhere else'

>Americans have no free healthcare but have to pay all these stupid taxes as if they did

>>10859430
>free

>>10859413
Chocolate milk isn't taxed despite having roughly the same amount of sugar per ounce as Coke, booze isn't taxed despite being nothing more than empty calories, and fruit juice isn't being taxed despite being essentially sugar water. There is less sugar in Gatorade than in apple juice. It's an arbitrarily applied tax based entirely on unsubstantiated perceptions of what is healthy. A proper sugar tax would apply to a threshold of added caloric sweeteners, not a list of products.

>>10859433
>booze isn't taxed

nigga wat

>>10859438
Look at OP's pic, the tax doesn't apply to alcoholic beverages.

>>10859345
>pushes cart about 8 rows down, buys pic related
What now, faggots?

>>10859345
what's a recovery fee?

>>10859440
They have a bunch of other taxes though.

>>10859446
Yes, but we're talking about a specific tax.

>>10859448
So? Both are heavily taxed because they are bad for people

It doesn't matter that they are taxed by the same tax

>>10859345
Just buy it from Amazon lmao.

>>10859461
The issue is that when you're taxing soda because it has too much sugar but you're not applying the same tax to an alcoholic beverage that is basically soda and booze, i.e. all of the "hard" sodas, the tax is being applied arbitrarily. Likewise the fact that apple juice isn't being taxed despite having equal amounts of sugar, with the added bonus of industry exceptionalism; Washington is the top apple producing state in the country, the vast majority of which are grown for industrial purposes like making apple juice. A fairly applied tax would simply apply to all products that meet an objective criteria, like grams of sugar per fluid ounce.

>>10859371
I think it’s more of a “if we put up this sign our staff can be more effective as they won’t be answering the same question over and over again” kind of deal.

>>10859448
it's the same principle you moron

>>10859474
The only argument I can make in defense is that alcohol is already taxed. BUT I honestly do agree with you. And it should apply to fruit juices as well.

But hey, it's better than nothing.

>>10859413
It is a form of social engineering, similar to providing financial incentives for getting married or buying certain cars, etc.

>>10859492
>He puts this much trust in the customers of a shopping center.
>Let alone a COSTCO.
Oh Anon...

>>10859496
Yes, but if that's the case it should also have the same tax added to it.
All's fair in shitty taxes.

>>10859474
because booze are ALREADY highly taxed in washington numbskul,l how many times do you need this explained to you
>all spirits are to be taxed at 20.5% on the shelf price in addition to a flat spirits liter tax of $3.7708/liter.

>>10859523
its the only defense needed.

>>10859535
no that isn't the case you dipshit

the purpose of the sugar drink tax is in essence a sin tax. this sin tax already applies to alcohol in washington.

>>10859409
So people should be allowed to gorge themselves to death? This is guiding people to make better decisions and not become disgusting, unproductive fatties. Healthy public is a good foundation to build on.
You've still got your burger joints fatty, just easy up on the sugar.

>>10859433
they tried telling smokers that its killing them
didn't stop them. Now they'll try and eradicate it by hiking up the prices. It's working. However I'd still prefer people valued their lives more and realized that their unhealthy habits are a burden to them and society.

>>10859345
I'm just going to collect free sugar sachets from cafes and use them in water. Suck shit, Communists.

>>10859564
Yeah and you are free to do so and kill yourself.
I just wish that you didn't.

>There were "Americans" in this thread defending taxation on beverages on July 4th.

>>10859413
>The government is not telling you what to do here.
Try selling and buying Gatorade without paying the tax then. See what the Government does about it.

>>10859552
>So people should be allowed to gorge themselves to death?
Yes. Yes they should. On their own dime.

>>10859409
>the government
you mean you right? the government is literally you. and me. and any amerifags here.

>>10859614
If that's true you can just choose not to pay the tax, right?

>>10859413
>the government is not telling you what to do when it slaps a big ol tax on a certain food item

Okay

Are people seriously endorsing US communities trying to outrun Britain? Please tell me it's just trolls and not people thinking government needs to tax everything into the ground.

>>10859348

>>10859345

The time has come for a Seattle cola party.

>>10859676
We were doing so well not giving that retard any (you)s until you showed up.

>doesn't apply to alcohol
Spineless.

>>10859603
This country truly has gone to shit anon. We may as well sign a Declaration of Dependence back over to the british at this fucking point.

>>10859345
Holy shit!

What a GREAT opportunity for some motivated individuals to make some money off of dumb ass leftist nanny state policy decisions. Import cases and cases of tax free sugar water and sell that shit for 25% less while still making 25% profit.

Makes me wish I lived on the left coast.

>>10861437
>sign a Declaration of Dependence back over to the british
Fuck you pussy.

In about 10 years the U.S. will undergo another civil war based on ethnic and political differences, at which point, we will establish a WHITE nation, and KEEP it white this time.

>>10859614
I'd normally agree with you, but as someone who lives around Seattle I can tell you Seattle City council is pulling shit like this without putting it on a ballot. The head tax was the most recent one; it took them getting sued before they conceded that maybe a tax on big business to help with the homeless situation they caused might need to be voted on.

>>10859552
Yes if that I'd their choice they should be free to do so. We don't have to subsidize them with Obamacare anymore so I don't see an issue with it, their choice doesn't affect me

>>10859559
The Nazis tried eradicating smoking too along with 6 million other things you really want to be more like them?

These taxes are for rich city's to get rid of minority's. White people can afford them.

>>10861506
>6 million
Ask yourself why some asshole on 4chan had to teach you the fact that the official death toll in those camps is 11 million and the 6m was just the Jews.
Ask yourself why you were not taught about the five million gentiles.

>>10861508
and that’s a good thing

>>10861526
>11millions
That's just a made up number by jews so that the other people killed wouldn't overshadow them

>>10861508
>minority's
You spell like one of the minorities you claim to hate.
Get fucked, foreigner.

>>10861508
>>10861530
There should be no taxes and no welfare.
You'd get rid of the leeches of all colours soon enough with that policy.

>>10861540
I don't hate them stores don't want them around shitting up the place. So you put taxes on the stuff they buy they shop in other towns and hopefully move.

>>10861526
um actually it was 20 billion jews that died please pray for them :(

>>10861526
Everyone is taught about the dead gentiles.

>>10859559
You completely ignored his point because you have no counter. I drink a shitload of Gatorade and assure you I'm in wildly better shape than all of you government bootlickers. My little sister is obese because she pounds a fucking bag of Doritos 15 mins after a meal and doesn't do shit but drinks no Gatorade or any of the like except homemade tea as far as I know. I would get punished but she wouldn't lol. That example shows sparkling clear how arbitrary this shit is.

Just set some stupid bmi parameter and make fatasses pay a penalty if we're going to go down this stupid rabbit hole. But fat fucks will cry discrimination if we do.

>>10861506
>tried eradicating smoking too along with 6 million other things you really want to be more like them?

Yes. Absolutely. Not their political shit, mind you, but the defense of our culture and nation against the poisonous leftist and Jew influence? You're damn right.

Jews are a disease to every culture they infect, and the fact that they've been kicked out of so many nations, so many different times throughout history, clearly demonstrates that it's NOT the fucking host nations that are the problem, it's the fucking Jews.

>>10861464
>there are people that believe this

>>10861591
BMI is a pretty terrible indicator of health in a lot of cases

>>10861555
Not him but our podunk high school had a holocaust study class, but zero other elective history courses. In our core curriculum we were virtually never taught anything about WW1, Vietnam or any non-European theater of WW2, but they made sure we had an entire class about the holocaust. Really got the ol' neurons firing.

>>10861610
>they made sure we had an entire class about the holocaust

It's.....it's almost like there's a group of people intent on downplaying the death of everyone else but Jews or something.

I wonder who it could be?

>>10859405
good goy
yes yes the government is putting these taxes because they are friendly guys with your best interest in mind!

>>10861610
Bet you weren't taught about the camps the Allied forces put German civilians in after the war ended either.
Millions and millions dead and nobody's ever fucking heard about it.
I'm no Holocaust denier, but I'm disgusted with the trend of teaching that Jews were the only victims of that war, and the aftermath of it.

>>10859536
>its the only defense needed.
wrong

>>10859535
>tax for sugar
>"why isn't that applied to beer too?"
can't tell if his perfect beverage is soda or paint

>>10859345
They will just shop outside city limits for the added tax items.

>>10859603
>>There were "Americans" in this thread defending taxation on beverages on July 4th.
This

>some stupid fucking law that makes zero sense to anyone with a brain capable of reasoning
>council is majority females

There's your fucking problem right there.

When the fuck will people accept the fact that women make TERRIBLE decisions and should NEVER be allowed to make decisions that impact society as a whole.

>>10861621
>implying the German aggressors didn't deserve it
The Jews were innocent victims during WW2.
The German people were complicit in genocide.
The Japanese royal family should have been tried for war crimes but McArthur had to preserve continuity on monkey island due to Russian and Chinese threats to the West.

>>10861649
Where do you live, anon?
Since you think civilians should be punished for the actions of the State I know you can't possibly be American. We'd have to kill you five or six times if you were.

>>10861649
Who could be behind this post, I wonder.

>>10861652
>we should of treated the German populace in world war 2 like special snowflakes
Back to your liberal arts class, Kimberly.

>>10861649
I don't agree entirely but there's no way some of the German population had no idea about the concentration camps. They must of known things weren't right.

>>10859614
No it really isnt. The government just a bunch of bought politicians trying to get as much money as they can from lobbyists while pretending to care about any of us

>>10861663
>should of

You still haven't told me which country you live in, anon. Since you think the populace can be punished for the actions of their leaders you must be from an adamantly neutral one, yes?
I am not defending the actions of the German military. I'm just saying that putting civilian German women and children in camps and letting them die there, by the millions, after and while raping them, might mean the Allies weren't all that much purer of heart.
Which of course explains why these things are not touched upon in history class.

>>10861464
>Implying any of you abominations are white to begin with.

>>10861681
This is the smartest post that will be made on /ck/ all day, if not week...

>>10861690
>oh look, it's this meme again
why are you so butthurt, anon?

>>10861684
>you must be from an adamantly neutral one, yes?
No.
For what it's worth my country is probably your greatest ally (probably).
My point is when Berlin was taken we weren't there as liberators, we were there as conquerors and your government said as much.
Germany needed teaching a harsh lesson, which the allies did.

>>10861698
Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs....

>>10859405
It's regressive and hurts poors more and does not change behaviors.

>>10861698
I'm Danish, mate.
I am no ally of your 70-year-old state.
And I am no supporter of systematically raping and killing civilians, during or after a war. That's the kind of thing a nazi would support, ironically.

>>10861710
Danish troops fought beside me in Afghanistan.
Only European nation to deploy main battle tanks as far as I remember.

>>10861710
Nazis actually didnt support that, even more ironically.

>>10861716
I did not support that war either, although as far as I know we did not firebomb population centres there the way the Allies did during WW2 nor intern, rape and kill millions of the civilians the way they did after WW2.

wtih

>>10859433
whataboutism

>>10861721
>I did not support that war either
Fair enough but did you support the men and women fighting it?

>>10861737
Why would I support someone willingly partaking of a war of aggression for money?
Unless our country is under attack all military action is mercenary by default.
And let's be real; if we do come under attack we won't be able to hold them off no matter who they are.
So no, I do not support people who sign up to kill Afghans or Iraqis or Syrians or Somalians etc.
They would have been more useful if they'd stayed here and studied to be engineers or nurses or carpenters. Probably wouldn't have got crippling PTSD at age 20 from that either.
I don't blame them, though. They were brainwashed by the State into thinking they were doing something good. Just like I was back in the day.

I seriously had to check which board I was on.

>>10861759
Posted on a device made with materials taken in war

>>10861784
Are you really too daft to understand the last part of the post?
Photo was shot on a Mju 2 loaded with Kodak Gold.

>>10861704
>and hurts poors more

Excellent.

>>10859409
>Because the government should not be telling you what to do.
That's the point of a government, you thick-skulled 'muh rights' alt-right wastoid

The WHOLE point of our democratic government is to use the national common sense to pass laws that protect and promote a healthy and comfortable way of life for our citizens. The government literally exists to tell people what to do since most people will do the exact wrong thing when not corralled and encouraged in certain directions.

>>10859474
>Likewise the fact that apple juice isn't being taxed despite having equal amounts of sugar
The tax is on added sweeteners/sugar, not high sugar or high calorie items.
Apple juice with added sugar would be taxed as surely as Gatorade. Think before getting offended, fatty.

unironically, why do people live in Seattle?

Rains Constantly, awful traffic (from what I've heard) and the cost of living is comparable to LA or NYC. As someone who has never been to the area please tell me the appeal

>>10862011
Maybe they like the weather and don't mind spending a lot on rent.

>>10859345
Black market back alley out of trunk sales...

>>10862011
It's comfy.

>>10859409
>Because the government should not be telling you what to do.

That's right! You should also be able to run all those red lights! How dare they install those measures to stop people driving when they want to - having to stop when I don't get to decide is outrageous!

They tried a similar sugar tax in Cook County, IL a while ago and it barely lasted a year.

I don't expect Seattle's to last much longer either.

>>10862125
You can hit someone else if you run a red light. If an action will only directly hurt the person doing the action, it should be legal.

>>10862167
You've seen those white trash families with morbidly obese kids? Do you think it's those kids' fault that they're fat?

>>10859360

Yeah, but sugar water is actually kind of important as therapy for diarrhea.

>>10862011
If you tend to stay on the north end of the city and into places like Shoreline, you tend to see less niggers

>>10862266
Sometimes, yes.

seattle and san francisco are the best on the pacific coast

fuck donald trump

>>10862330
I hope you both fall in the ocean at once.

>>10859345
there's literally nothing wrong with taxing vices. it's called negative externalities. this is highly preferable to banning them.

>>10862330
Best at encouraging the migration of homeless people into their cities to drain the public coffers, leave HIV laden needles everywhere, and make up ridiculous taxes to drive all the non-fruitcakes into the suburbs.

>>10862330
I know this post is bait, but imagine living in a shithole for so long where you think it's "best" and not just a shoulder shrug saying "eh, it's alright"

>>10862011
Doesn't actually rain that much, it's usually just overcast which is the comfiest weather. When it does rain, it just drizzles for a bit. Plus, incredibly mild summers.

>>10862373
>>10862355
>people always talk shit about Cali and it's crazy taxes
>5th largest economy in the world
>the one time their economy had problems it was from de-regulating electricity, leading to scam start ups and huge lapses in coverage

I mean if Cali is Commie, it's the first communist state thats actually successful

>>10862407
I didn't criticize California in general, I grew up there and have a nostalgia for it, but I stand firm in saying that San Francisco should fall into the ocean.

>>10862407
>Always in a state of "Oh shit we are almost out of water/money/not being on fire"
>Successful.

>>10862407
Wasn't criticizing. Most costal cities are trash. I grew up in the coast of Maine in 80s and if was great, now it's shit. I refuse to live on the coast.

>>10862414
I did too and I think San Francisco is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, along with Hong Kong

Also, there are plenty of "fruitcakes" in the suburbs, it's just that being wealthy and privileged makes it easier for people to come out of the closet

>>10859603
>On their own dime.
The ills they inflict on society at large make it impossible to do so purely on their own dime.

>>10862330
FUCK, I AM YOU CAT!

>>10862011
>rains constantly
Mostly just constantly overcast.
>awful traffic
A major American metropolis has awful traffic, go fucking figure.
>cost of living is comparable to LA or NYC
That's the price you pay for being near one of America's largest tech hubs.
>please tell me the appeal
A lot of the appeal of city life is simply being where everything else is. Having greater access to products, services, people, and jobs.
I used to live in the countryside but fuck driving a whole fucking hour one way to work.

>>10862011
As soon as I'm done with college, I am getting the hell out of this godforsaken hellhole that gives all of Washington a bad name.

>>10861999
Fuck off, boot licker. We don't need anymore authoritarianism in our country.

>>10859345
Most people this dependent on sugar are low IQ retards that have gone millions of years backwards through the stages of evolution, and therefore have to rely on the government to give them a card that gets them food.

>>10859345
>>10859371
Another reason why Costco is based.

All these fat subhumans paying up for nigger welfare. Literal libshit utopia, /pol/ BTFO

>>10859647
I wish the those givernment officials in Congress would pay their fair of taxes and health costs instead of taking advantage ofbtheir position of power and lobbying against the same laws they benefit from. Fuck politicians

>>10861542
then you realize social programs are at most a few percent of the budget and you still have corporate welfare/military spending to contend with. also, if you work in an industry that's federally subsidized, guess what, you're a welfare queen too!

>>10862354
>highly preferable to banning them
Nice argument, faggot.
"Yeah, my husband beats me, but not to death"

>>10859362

Diabetes kills more people in the US each year as a direct result of type 1 liquid consumption compared to lung cancer deaths caused by smoking.

>>10859603

Taxation represented by the need to pay for fatasses who need emergency care when their bodies start to shut down from the beetus

>>10863364
Without taxes there would be no military either. That's basically a form of welfare most of the time anyway.

>>10863380
So a tax burden of social engineering to create more socialism the justification for the tax burden is at it's root cause socialism. That's the same circular logic as how liberals claim that they need to restrict your 2nd amendment because without it we can't restrict your 1st and somehow it's freedom. Here is an idea how about I don't pay fucking taxes on soda and not have to foot insurance for people who lack the sense to take care of themselves in the first place? You know being a democratic republic instead of a Socialist state?

>>10862266
In to adulthood yes

>>10861999
>Not wanting bug government is alt-right

Yeah you know what you changed my mind you are right we should totally let the government dictate our lives the elitist liberals like yourself know exactly what's best for me. Why stop at sugar tax, why not let the government tell me what job to do and how I should think. It worked so well with Stalin, and Mao, and Pot Pol, and Putin, and N. Korea. We won't have an obesity problem then history proves that
>Laws are about telling people what to do
Might want to take a basic civics class there

>>10863835
>laws are bad
>except when it's laws that work for me, like state-enforced property rights, bans on abortion, taxes that support the police/military (and absolutely nothing else), and bans on gay people serving in the military

Why can't you come up with a more accurate word for your inane dogma besides "muh freedom", because it's obviously not

>>10863835
>Putin's Russia and North Korea are bad
Has anyone explained that to the God-Emperor?

>>10863824
Well said.

Usually this board makes me hungry. Now I want to start a revolution to capture and water board gatorade marxists.

On the one hand this is absolutely ridiculous over reach....but on the other FUCK fat people.

>>10862407
This post is so stupid, it's hard to know where to start. From the debt, to the crisis of the week, to the water and food situation, to the military bases, California is about as self sufficient a Communist hell hole as a human liver is. If you can Leach vital necessities, ya, you can sure make a go of shit.

>>10859433
Uk has done similar, although the tax isn't as high.

Milk drinks are exempt due to 'high calcium content', think juice is exempt for a similar reason.

Surely gatorade could reformulate to dodge if they gave a shit.

>>10863422
Militia, faglord

>>10863839
>That strawman
Leftists have no intellect to debate.

>>10863913
Being anymore like the UK is the wrong fucking direction.

>>10863920
We had all our brains sucked out by elitist communist sanctuary university professors. Ah should of got a truckin' job and lurned how the real world works.

>>10863916
What about the militia? They're not supported by taxdollars last time I checked.
If people want to voluntarily associate to protect their land from invaders that's fine with me. I just don't want to buy the guns for them.
We were talking about taxation and welfare. I said I'm against both and the retarded anon replied that more taxes are spent on military than on welfare, like that in any way proves me wrong in wanting to abolish both.

>>10862354
Why should we do either? Why not let people make their own decisions how to live their lives?

>>10863947
Because it costs more to everyone else
Simple math, dumbass

>>10863948
>taking public healthcare for granted
Look who only just entered the thread, everybody.

>>10859405
Don’t tread on anyone

>>10862283
gatorade is not oral rehydration therapy, stupid.

>>10863954
>negative externalities only occur in health insurance
lol

>>10859582
It’s his choice. Let him be.

>>10863985
Why don't you give me an example of how someone else being fat hurts you if you don't have to pay taxes to support them?

>>10863993
Apparently you have never been on an airplane

>>10861547
So you’re fine with involuntary taxes as long as trolls muh brown people. What a boot licker.

>>10861999
Aut-rights hate rights though

I thought only fit chads drank Gatorade? I'm fat btw.

>>10859433
chocolate milk is exempt because the tax doesn’t include milk products probably due to Seattle being Starbucks Mecca and they couldn’t fuck them over. They’d probably ban choccy milk if they could.

>>10859345
this is great i hate fats
i don't wanne pay for fats
i don't want my social money going to fats

>>10863839
>Unnecessary taxes and social engineering taxes are bad
>Lol Guess you think all laws are bad huh?
Holy shit you are liberals are seriously retarded and authoritarian, just because he doesn't want the government to dictate his life doesn't mean all laws are bad

>>10863839
>Unnecessary taxes and social engineering taxes are bad
>Lol Guess you think all laws are bad huh?
Holy shit you are liberals are seriously retarded and authoritarian, just because he doesn't want the government to dictate his life doesn't mean all laws are bad

>>10864060
Oh so all laws are good now, huh? Ever heard of slavery, the internment of japanese citizens or the genocide of native americans? Those were all done with laws.

>>10864068
All those things were good.

>>10861999
>Apple juice with added sugar would be taxed as surely as Gatorade. Think before getting offended, fatty.
Juice is fine in moderation but it's still unhealthy to drink 100g of sugar even if it's naturally in an apple. I think his point is just that unsweetened juice can have just as much sugar as soda, so it doesn't make sense to not apply it to juice too.

>>10863996
I have and I fully support the company's right to tell fat people to buy a second ticket. Or charge by weight for that matter.
They're not doing that now because the State calls it discrimination.

>>10864037
Did they reduce taxation on something else when they implemented the sugartax? Because if they didn't you're paying just as much now as you were before, statecuck.

>>10864093
>They're not doing that now because the State calls it discrimination.
lol, no
I work for an airline, we’re fully able to charge extra for ham planets by law
what stops us is ideology. the public would flip their shit

>>10863375
>let me use any bad thing instead of what a vice is, i'll fucking get him with that!
nice strawman faggot.

>>10863947
people do things that are a burden to society. if a corporation chooses to pollute the air, they ought to be taxed for it. same with fat people. they can live their lives however they want to, but if they want to make shitty decisions like buying liquid sugar (and by extension ruining their health and making health premiums go up), then they're going to pay back society every time they do it.

stop being retarded and equating being taxed with the inability to lead a certain lifestyle.

>>10864093
>tell fat people to buy a second ticket
i wish one of the airlines had the balls to do that. i'd be a customer for life, customer beatings be damned.

>>10864068
>Thinks strawmaning the extreme won't be super obvious
>Thinks slavery, internment of Japs, and treatment of savage people eating natives was bad

>>10864128
>i wish one of the airlines had the balls to do that. i'd be a customer for life, customer beatings be damned.
We can agree on that at least. Despite the hurtful "faggot" comment earlier in your post.

>>10863996
Apparently you have never been on an airplane in a first world country.

>>10862283
wow thousands will die of dysentery thanks to this oppressive law, thanks Seattle

I'm unironically a fascist but this is one thing that libs get right. Fatties need some tough love.

>>10864001
Of course nigger, who the fuck is actually a libertarian anymore? What are you, 35? It isn't the mid-2000s. The only thing that governs discourse now and in the future is identity politics thanks to our gay immigration laws.

We could have had a debate about abstract ideas and economics but now everything must be reduced down to "Is this good or bad for white people?" Having debates about principles is a luxury reserved for homogeneous white countries, of which there are basically none left.

>>10864093
>Increase tax on some shit that literally only niggers and neckbeards buy
>Decrease tax on some mystery item that I may or might not buy
Sounds like a win-win to me, bucko

>>10864161
I fly around Europe a lot and I've actually never had the misfortune of getting a really huge person in the next seat.
We do of course have obese people here as well but you're at least not guaranteed to get one every time you fly.
I've had one or two with bad BO, though. Maybe the Statists ITT want the cops to force people to shower and use deodorant as well.
Once in a while there's a kid that screams for the whole damned flight. Should the parents be jailed or fined?

>>10864068
>Japanese internment
>Bad
>He doesn't know about the Niihau incident

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident

A Jap pilot who had just participated in Pearl Harbor crash landed in Niihau, where he was apprehended once locals learned of the bombing. However three Americans of Japanese descent immediately helped him, and would have escaped if not for other non-Japanese Americans killing them.

Ethnic loyalty >>> National loyalty

>>10864179
You didn't answer the question, retard; did they actually reduce the tax on something else?
Because I bet they fucking didn't.

>>10864076
This is a shame, apple juice is just a shittier version of having a soda. Would be far more enjoyable to just drink a coke and take a multivitamin.

>>10864188
In the purely hypothetical event that this is true then it doesn't make any difference to me because I never waste my money on bullshit sugar water. So it's either A. Beneficial to me because I might save money on something or B. doesn't make any difference because the tax is being raised on something I never buy anyways.

>>10864181
If they had their way probably they aren't going straight for full control like that because it will lead to massive pushback. It's all about eroding rights with a bunch of small victories like taxing something harmless to discourage people from drinking it and conforming to your way of life once unnecessary taxes are the norm you can roll out higher taxes for things like social programs "the kids aren't getting the proper nutrition here goy give us more shekels and we will eliminate the dirty soda water from their schools with something government approved" then it leads to a dependent nanny state " the kids grew up but can't feed themselves and when they do they don't make the right choices look at all the soda they choose to drink give us more shekels and we will give them nutrious bread for the week, but there isn't enough money to go around so if the bread is good enough for them it should be good enough for you, open borders no national pride right goy you don't think you are better than them do you?"

>>10864207
>doesn't make any difference
Exactly, you fucking idiot. If you had the brains to follow the reply chain you'd see I was calling out the statement quoted below. He certainly seems to think he gains something from increasing tax on Gatorade without reducing it on something else.
His "social money" is still going to "fats" same as always. The only one gaining from this tax is the State. So congratulations on your sugar taxation helping to pay for another Javelin missile, genius.

>>10864272
I don't know, man. There's been a lot of "pushback" against Ryanair but people still fly with them because it's cheap and so is loyalty. Hell, I'll fly with them too if I can save a significant sum, despite thinking they're assholes.

If we must have a nanny state I'd much rather the focus were on teaching people healthy living and maybe even incentivising it, i.e. flat out pay them to lose weight.
We both know they kind of hambeast who drinks a gallon of soda a day isn't going to switch to tap water because if this tax.

>>10864037
>this is great i hate fats
>i don't wanne pay for fats
>i don't want my social money going to fats

>>10864181
If a kid screams the whole flight then the airlines should implement a fine, or ban them from future flights if they do not pay it.

>>10859445
Basically, we are being taxed for selling this, but we have decided just to pass it on directly to the consumer. A lot of major companys claim this is the problem with raising corporate taxes.

>>10861704
Diabetes is also regressive. Healthcare cost way more than a sugar tax.
If we look at smoking taxes, it doesn't really stop current smokers, but it does stop new smokers.

>>10864308
The teaching and what not I can get behind most people don't want to be unhealthy and take smoking for example as soon as people found out about it's dangers the vast majority of them gave it up (compare rates of smokers now to the 70s when the public got educated) and even today the rates of smokers are declining even if some of that is vapepens cutung into the market they are for the most part healthier. Incentives and flat out paying people to Yo-yo weight is way to rife for abuse and gaming the government for gibs like how poor people have more kids because they get more money or in India where the snake killers started breeding cobras to collect from the government and the end result was an explosion of the snake population once the incentive program ended and the hunters just released all the snakes they were breeding

>>10861646
Not only women, but a DIVERSE council of women!!

>>10861704
If they are poor, they should not be buying candy and candy drinks
This is precisely why they're poor, because they're animals and too stupid to make basic desicisons

>>10861999
but juice is taxes what the fuck, i live in seattle and see it in grocery stores. this is beyond misinformation, beverages are taxed based on sugar per fluid ounce. Coffee gets taxed, juice gets taxed, soda gets taxed

>>10862011
seattle is home to washingtons only good university (university of washington). Also theres a lot of job listings here. Washington really doesnt have many big cities outside of seattle (tacoma and bellingham i guess) and then theres not much good industry outside of those places. And those cities also have high cost of living

>>10859405
>>10859360
>only fat people drink sweetened drinks

This is the average mindset of a retarded liberal from /pol/

>>10859345
>Fat people
>Moving

>>10859345
>drive 15 minutes outside of Seattle
>dodge the tax entirely
>Order online
>dodge the tax entirely

All this does is hurt small businesses.

>>10861526
i’m high school we were taught it was more along the lines of 800,00 people died including jews and gentiles.

>>10863824
>Taxes on sugary drinks
>create more socialism
Please try to not fulfill every stereotype of an ignorant burger.

>>10862407
>>10862407
It's the 3rd largest state in the US and mostly coast against the busiest and biggest ocean. No shit, Sherlock.
Really, it and Texas should have been broken up into three.

>>10865056
Plus perfect climate.
That said, all of your water comes from out of state and badly treated illegal labor everywhere.

>>10865056
Does a lot of their GDP come from the ocean then?
I assumed it was mostly Hollywood and porn.
I also think it's funny that lefties apparently think their state has more value because it generates more money. Wonder if that view applies to people as well.

>>10865067
Long Beach, CA is one of the busiest port in the world.

>post-liberalism

>>10865060
>California claims to be a perfect utopia.
>Cut off their water and watch them just turn into a burning mess of hippies.
The worst part would be the environmental disaster when the meth labs all explode at once.

>>10864895
T. Kike Bloomberg
Warren Buffett has a whole 6 pack of cherry cola each day and he's doing fine.
Just shame them, it is what really reduced smoking, not the confiscating vice tax.

What are they doing with soda fountains now? Insert coins for each pour of sugar water?

>>10865317
Buying a cup is more expensive or restaurants just don't apply the tax being a cheeky cunt

>>10865309
>being this retarded
If they are poor, they lack the funds to pay for unnecessary vices, And should instead save that money so they can spend it on education to become not poor

Buffett has his coke because he has money to throw around that won't affect his bottom line
poor people do not have this luxury, that's precisely why it's called a luxury
Fucking imbecil

>>10865233
>The worst part would be the environmental disaster when the....
...millions of illegal aliens head east after their sugar daddy runs dry.

>>10865400
It Is taking advantage of the same vulnerabilities freemium products will.
I bet you support loot crates.

>>10864688
A diverse council of idiots.....

>>10862330
fuck i am you cat

>>10861653
>make up three-fourths of the country
>"REEEEE WE'RE DYING"
Even if that were happening, your kids won't be alive to see any results.

>>10865504
Accorring to Pew, Half of mutt babbies are colored. Kiddos are living the future rnm Irl boomers like yourself don't even know.

>>10865056
Well Texas is only really that big because it was a country that joined the Union

>>10861506
>you really want to be more like them?
Yes

>>10865400
Why are you dictating how they should spend the money they work for though?

>>10865083
So it's imports then? Not production?
I'm asking here, I do not know much about he the Cali economy and 5th in the world surprised me.

>>10865438
>I bet you support loot crates.
I support parents not handing their 12-year-old a credit card. I support them raising him to not be a fucking idiot. I support paying some attention to what he's viewing and playing on the Internet.
I do not support the State making something illegal because some retarded child with shitty parents and a credit card my spend money on it.

>>10865309
>Just shame them, it is what really reduced smoking
True. The State spent a fortune, yours and mine, on making smoking uncool.
A more worthy use of it than bombing Afghani peasants if nothing else.

>>10859430
Indeed. Our taxes aren't really much higher in Canada, but our government puts that money into healthcare instead of oil wars and bank bailouts.

>>10859360
I'm not in favor of any taxing as such but I agree with this. Sugar kills way more people than tobacco.

>>10861999
The United States is not a democracy.

>>10863913
this

At least there's a redeeming value in these liquids

>>10861526
400,000-600,000 jews actually

>>10859345
Fat people will just buy soda one at a time, because they're fat.

>>10863894
um.... based.

>>10859552
This is stupid. It is the government that allows all the companies to load our regular food with all varieties of sugar and then call it low-fat because of Ancel Keys. The liberal government doesn’t give a shit about our sugar intake or our health, they just want a reason to hike up the tax on poor people and price them out to oblivion.

>>10859559
I pay my own health insurance thank you very much - do you?

>>10861486
Yeah, we were downtown yesterday and the smog just laid over the city. So fitting for a bunch of “environmental” hippies.

>>10861508
This exactly. That’s all they are trying to do while pretending to hold the moral high ground by acting like they are concerned about people’s health.

>>10861588
BMI is not an accurate meter in its own right and neither is weight. This is all just a genocidal extermination of poor by pricing them out so they’ll have to move or go homeless and then they can pretend to care about them that way too.

>>10861646
Agreed.

>>10861999
PLEASE tell me this is bait. If it’s not bait it’s painfully ignorant. Is this what they are teaching you in college? PAINFULLY IGNORANT. This is an ABUSE of government power not fulfilling the purpose of it.

>>10862354
>ok to tax vices
So can we tax faggotry then?

>>10859433
So run for office and change things.

Oh wait you won't because you're a fucking whiner who likes to complain but never do anything to change it how you want it.

>>10865570
Because them becoming butter golems and/or getting diabetes results in them requiring extensive medical care at my expense, as they are too poor to afford the bills
Also, the primary offenders usually didn't work for the money, but instead got it from welfare, so I the taxpayer get to pay for their gluttony twice

Why are Americans so mad at taxes while paying like 30% income tax at the same time and calling everyone else commies just lol

>>10859443
still taxed

>>10866720
how is it at your expense?

Who needs a goddamn 35 bottle case of gatorade in the first place?

>>10866802
people who buy in bulk to try and save money? weird, right.

>>10866802
Are you entirely unfamiliar with the concept of Costco?

>>10866803
Buying in bulk is a marketing ploy to make you unnecessarily spend more money.

>>10866815
sometimes, but if its something you are consuming regardless it is usually a significant savings to you

Buying in bulk is only bad if you end up buying more than you would have otherwise consumed, which is super easy to be smart about

>>10866827
I understand buying large quantities of flour/rice/beans but sugar waters and other non necessities should have a maximum sale size and a heavy tax on them.

>>10866791
>what is medicaid
>what is being middle class and having to support people too stupid/wanton to handle their endless hedonism and gluttony

>>10859345
fat people only drink gatorade to look sporty.

>>10866834
The tax is per volume so it is not better or worse buying in bulk

Beverages are a perfect thing to buy in bulk if you have the space to store them because they last so long. Even if you only consume a few per week it is still considerably cheaper to buy it in bulk. Many people will buy beverages to bring to work for lunch or if they have kids doing sports stuff in the case of gatorade.

It really makes sense for any non-perishable item, you can save considerably

>>10861508
This. Liberals are just as racist as conservatives.
They're just more passive about it.

>>10866930
Liberals are way worse. Passive aggressive racists. The conservative at least thinks everyone should be treated the same. The Liberal has this belief that 'inferior' (they are smart enough not to say this out loud) people need a leg up. Their good intention is supposed to make this belief ok. Or that the person willing to accept the benefit makes it ok.
Rednecks are better than either. If a redneck has an opinion about your race, you don't need to guess. They just flat tell you. Which I think is better than not knowing. Those that want to "open a dialog", that redneck will start it.

>>10866855
i think you have some misconception here. you didn't pay for those.

>>10861730
It's not whataboutism to point out arbitrary dobule standards, you stupid fuck.

>>10861999
>The WHOLE point of our democratic government is to use the national common sense to pass laws that protect and promote a healthy and comfortable way of life for our citizens.
According to you.

>>10861999
No. The government provides structures and services for people to go about their lives in peace. If a person wants to buy a soda, the government shouldn't have a hand in that

>>10867087
>what are taxes

>>10867148
Well, you're wrong

>>10861999
>The WHOLE point of our democratic government is to use the national common sense to pass laws that protect and promote a healthy and comfortable way of life for our citizens.

> another elitist shill parrot spotted

FFS do US schools teach civics in class anymore?.....our country is a Constitutional Republic, not a democratic government. A democratic form of gov is what you'd find in 1933 Germany.

According to the US Constitution, the FEDERAL gov's job is to:

- establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote for the general welfare, and secure the blessings to ourselves and our posterity...

when it comes to food related stuff, the FEDERAL gov overseas inspection of goods being allocated to make sure it's safe for consumption. But when it comes to jumping in because a particular city or state has a health dilemma as a result of poor eating choices this no longer becomes a FEDERAL gov's duty. It falls on the state's or the private sector (local community, individuals).

>The government literally exists to tell people what to do since most people will do the exact wrong thing when not corralled and encouraged in certain directions.

TRANSLATION: I can't even control, prioritize or be responsible for my own basic needs and necessities that i literally have to listen to what BIG BROTHER has to say because he is always right....

THIS IS NOT the foundation that this country was founded upon.

>>10862425
Doesn't SF have a problem with the amount of human feces on the streets?

They're not gona tax this are they??? :/

>>10866791
I pay taxes that fund medicaid, medicare and the VA. All my healthcare expenses also have to fund things like hospitals and drug companies giving things away for free to the indigent (yes, they do that fairly often, particularly hospitals).

I don't begrudge my fellow citizens that money, but if there's a budget-effective way to reduce the number of people drawing on those resources I'm all for it.

Kill all fat people (and poor people while we're at it)

>>10859445
Fat asses are a huge amount of public health costs, so we're making the fatties pay. Same idea as tobacco or alcohol tax.

>>10863947
Post you quoted already answered that question: negative externalities. Simplified econ 101 definition of negative externalities is that they're the bad things that happen to other people as a result of your decisions. So for instance, the negative externalities of driving is that you wear down the roads and pollute the air. The negative externality of drinking sugary drinks is you become fat and lazy and waste our healthcare money with all your heart attacks.

A major point of taxes is to make people pay for these negative externalities, which either offsets them or acts as a deterrent to people who would otherwise do things that hurt the rest of us.

>he thinks most fat people are fat because of sugar water
I didn't drink sugar water. Or eat basically any sweets. And fried food is still a rarity.

/fit/ said the contents of my meals were fine and didn't need a change unless I wanted to minmax lifting or shit. When I told them the actual amounts and my level of physical activity, they rightfully had a shitfit. I would either have to start eating less than half of the amounts I was putting down, or start doing triathalons everyday. Guess which I did. I wasn't even hungry when I cut down so much, it was just "food tastes and being full fells good."

>>10863377
what about my ass

>>10869696
Nobody thinks they're all fat because they sit around drinking sugar water as much as we drink non-sugar water, but there's also no denying that drinking lots of sugar water is one of the reasons they're so fat, and cutting it will make them healthier.

Doubly so for Gatorade, because a lot of people don't realize that shit's bad for you.

itt: autistic, economically illiterate libertarians sperg out over the legitimate correction of a negative externality

>>10870133
>economically illiterate libertarians
lol at the idea that this is a thing. Economic literacy is the primary thing driving people toward libertarianism

>>10870175
are you sure it's not...
>muh freedoms

>>10870197
Literally no one has learned about economics and said "you know what we need? More tariffs and government intervention in the economy!"

>>10870221
monopoly prevention and regulation.

That is just one example showing you're an idiot.

>I hate fat people
>I don't want to do anything about it other than to cut health care and tell them to lose weight
unless you are a hamplanet yourself, you're not going to notice a tax on soda

>>10859371
More like
>We can sell more by recommending other locations as the tax doesn't improve our bottom line

Capitalism my dear anon.

>>10859409
t. Fatty Fat F. Fatterson the Fat

>>10870243
Libertarians do not think the government should not exist at all, simply that government influence should be minimized and most examples of intervention are unnecessary if not outright harmful.

Again, I stated that no one learns about economics and thinks, "we aren't currently intervening in the economy enough", that is very, very far from saying that no intervention is ever justified as you apparently thought I said somehow

>>10870254
Excise taxes are incredibly regressive, they only effect poor people

>>10870292
poor people are more likely to be fat

>>10870344
While not directly related to my comment, this is true. More to my point, to a normal person, your soda costing a bit more will be a trivial amount of your budget and will probably have little effect on what you buy, but to a poor person it will be a more significant part of their budget so it is regressive, becoming even more so with how fat and more likely to buy junk food poor people are

>>10870362
So you do not think that a higher price would be enough for poor people to eliminate or reduce non-essentials like soda from their diet?

>>10870393
It would have that effect for some individuals for sure, is that social engineering worth putting a higher tax burden on poor people though? That is the real question

I'm probably thinner than all the people here crying that sugar is cancer and still occasionally enjoy a nice soda el em ayy oh

>>10870393
>>10870362
>>10870344
>>10870292
All this is going to do is create a grey market for people to buy cheap sugary drinks enmasse from less liberal shitholes and import them into the liberal shitholes. Social engineering isn't about making fuck all less shit, it's about raising money for our parched local governments.

>more taxes cuz i dont liek soda

>>10859345
I think the part that pisses me off the most is that they call it a "recovery fee" instead of a sin tax. Like what the fuck are you recovering?

>>10859371
I mean. They obviously think the whole thing is retarded based on that sign in the first place. Why else do you think they took the route of putting down the original price and the tax when they just needed the final price?

>>10859405
Because taxation is theft and the government needs to be shot

>>10859445
The government signaling that they need to be shot

>>10870448
The government calls it a tax.

The retailer calls it a recovery fee. That's because the retailer is the one who is responsible for paying it. They're recovering the cost by charging the fee to the customer.

Who gives a shit.

You're either:
a). a functioning human being who drinks sugar water rarely enough that a ~$0.28 tax on your pepsi doesn't bother you
b). a failure addicted to sugar that is going to burden the healthcare system in 15 years when you get diabetes at 29

Pretend-libertarians aren't actually an option; they're just 'b' but roleplaying.

>>10870486
taxation is theft. Bureaucrats trying to fix people's behavior is inherently immoral

>>10870486
Just wait, you'll be protesting in the streets once the government starts taxing hentai

>>10859492
Anon, have you ever worked in a grocery store? Literally none of the shoppers are literate.

>>10864981
I just hate freedom.

>>10859348
Lol filename

>>10870286
But were edging toward a dystopia right now because of a lack of regulation. We need way more because lets be honest. The general population doesn't know what is best for them and need it forced on them. Otherwise companies will be left exploiting the fools until society collapses and they make off like bandits to the next country or region to destabilize with their reckless practices.

>>10861508
*minorities
>nigger

>>10870642
>But were edging toward a dystopia right now because of a lack of regulation
no we fucking aren't. This is literally an insane thing to believe. The world is better for more people than ever before in human history. War and violence is at an all time low and poverty is dramatically lower than ever

Fatty here. This is good. It'll discourage poor choices. And I say this while drinking a fucking Gatorade.
In the end you can't really control people's eating habits, but anything to discourage their shit eating and hopefully light a fire under their lard asses is welcome.

>>10861704
>hurts poors more
Good. If they're spending their hard earned money on shit that's going to help kill them, they should have to pay more. Water is a necessity, and Gatorade is a luxury.

>>10864320
Sometimes this is due to pain caused by inadequate pressure equalization caused by underdeveloped eustachian tubes, though. The kid is freaking out because it feels like his or her head is in a vice.

Not saying it makes it more pleasant but the kid is in pain, not throwing a tantrum.

>>10859405
Because it doesn't work, has never worked and there is no evidence it works while actively punishing poor people for daring to have a vice.

Also fun fact; higher cost of tobacco and generic packaging has actually resulted in higher sales in France and a huge upsurge of cheap, counterfeit tobacco. Smoking is actually thought to be on an increase, not a decrease, but people don't report their smoking habits anymore.

>>10861630
Beer is full of carbs though.

>>10862407
>Successful
>Bleeding populations
>Awful social outcomes
>Everyone who can moves does.
>Always in awful debt
>Utterly reliant on federal government money
>Being sued by border cities who support the Federal government and want proper immigration crackdowns
>Literally only successful in any way because of silicon valley which is starting to leave because taxes are too high
>A third of the state hates the other third's guts so much they want to seperate
>The other third is foreign and doesn't care as long as people keep giving them money under the table to work.

If California is successful, then God know what you think failure looks like.

>>10863925
This. There's literally no justification for the government's decision on this tax other than about a dozen rich idiots demanded it was done even though we take in less calories per average than we did thirty years ago.

>>10864351
Fun fact; rate of smoking is going up in some cases if you judge by the size of counterfeit and illicit tobacco. High prices and bland packaging just drive people towards the black market.

>>10865400
>Controlling the minimum price people are allowed to sell their labour and goods for.
>Making it so poor people suffer more than rich people.

You're a sadist and a controlfreak. You don't give a fuck about these people.

>>10866742
The tax is too high; it's ridiculously high here as well and has grown to ridiculous proportions since the 1930s.

>>10867644
Then just cut the taxes then. They can pay for themselves and no one has to be unfairly taxed.

Or we can just say that none of us own ourselves and we are all property of the state.

Which sounds better?

>>10870665
NO IT'S FUCKING AWFUL AND WE NEED TO CONTROL YOU ALL TO STOP YOU FROM RUINING YOURSELVES! JUST LET IT HAPPEN!

>>10862425
San Fran is a shithole. So many fucking homeless people because the city decided to make them feel welcome.

>>10862425
>Hong Kong
>beautiful

>>10871490
They both sound retarded. If you think paying tax truly undermines your civil liberty, you're the most braindead pile of garbage out there. Pick up a gun and go hole up in a secluded shack in the mountains. We won't miss you.

>>10866865
Kids dont need Gatorade if theyre doing sports, adults dont *need* a specific beverage other than maybe coffee if youre stuck on caffeine. Just drink water you fat shits

>>10870437
Key word being "occasional"
Literally no reason for anybody to consume sugary beverages everyday. I know some fatties who have told me "I dont like the taste of water" nigger what the FUCK

>>10872871
>shithole
Quite literally as well.
Americans love to make jokes about Indians shitting in the street but they really needn't look any further than Frisco to human shit on the sidewalks.
Word of warning, by the way; I got warned yesterday for posting politics on /ck/
The referred post was from June 26th so I guess my ass is banned when the mod finally catches up and sees this thread in a couple weeks. Hah.

>please daddy tax me even more on products to ensure that I'm not eating dat unhelfy food
Everybody in this thread is a cuck, citizens should be informed about mundane things like this. This country wasnt meant to be a nanny state that resorts to simply taxing the fuck out of goods "for our benefit" all year round.

>>10874039
>Everybody in this thread is a cuck
Yeah, thank God you showed up with the fresh new opinion that taxation is theft. Nobody else brought that up already.

>>10874053
I don't believe taxation is theft, however taxes levied over goods with no discernable impact other than higher prices for the consumer are both retarded and easily exploitable. Theres probably some rich cockbag who's pushing an syrup-free alternative to Gatorade now, and he probably was a big proponent of the tax itself.

>>10874061
>no discernable impact other than higher prices for the consumer
You think you are benefiting from most of the taxdollars that are collected and spent?

>>10866720
I agree we shouldn't treat them if they can't pay that would help out healthcare more than gibs and taxes to afford those gibs but if they were already getting give from the government and using it on soda all this will do is have them spend less of things like veggies and meat, they aren't going to be like "hey soda is too expensive let me buy some fresh kale juice instead" all this will do is hurt the average person working hard for their money and the government saying either buy what you are told to buy or give us more of your shekels

>>10859405
Lets tax the fags more, they have a very unhealthy lifestyle.

>>10869691
Where exactly is the money for this tax going that offsets the cost of healthcare? And if what you are claiming is true then why do toll roads exist? Tolls aren't a tax and you can choose not to take those routes but it's not like they are taken care of better than the feeder right next to them? This is just discussion since I doubt this tax is about negative externalities and more about social engineering truthfully

>>10869705
>Actual case of whataboutism

>>10870254
I don't even drink soda desu but I'm still mad about this tax because it is not like it will stop there. Why don't we tax gas so people are more inclined to use a bike and not drive everywhere?

>>10870274
I weight 135 lbs. And had to drink milkshakes as a kid to get my weight up. You don't need to be a lardass to have an issue with the government unnecessarily telling you how to behave and what to buy

>>10870344
>Stress over finances leads to excessive eating and using food for comfort
>Increase the price of foods through social engineering tax
>Increase the levels of financial stress
>????
>Less eating

>>10870665
Liberals need to believe that to justify authoritarianism

>>10870691
Why not tax the internet too you could be spending your time better, it would encourage more people to volunteer and read books you want an educated, healthy populace right? Why are we only addressing diet and not activity if we put a high tax on internet services people will be less sedentary and exercise more!

>>10871458
Did not know that I will still assert it is lower now than the 60s though but I didn't know that

>>10859430
but we do , aksuallly
it's only for the dregs
being a dreg myself I can tell you that I have healthcare and my prescriptions have a zero co pay
I can see a doktor or dentist when I like
and fuck off leafs

>>10870665
Thats a silly definition of poverty. Being just above living in a shit shack just because most of the non-first world is doesn't mean you're not in poverty. Poverty should be rated on an average per country.

>>10874104
>Burdens your healthcare system with faggotry

>>10874146
They're trying to make sodas and candy into a luxury food so the poor literally can't afford them and get fat off them. You think people are going to keep buying sodas there while poor if this continues? They'll just stop or find alternatives.

>>10874016
Well duh we don't NEED anything other than water, but what's wrong with a treat every once in a while? Jesus it sounds like you just waltzed out of a /v/ gamer fuel thread.