/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>add onions

Season well and get a good sear.

>>10773476
>descent

>>10773476
step 2: season thoroughly with birdseed and then pee on it

Use a good cheese.

>>10773489
or in this case jizz

>>10773476
that ain't meat boy

Toast the bun

Assemble with simple, fresh toppings

>>10773510
God damn thats a good lookin burger.

>>10773476
>has charcoal grill
>has cast iron pan
>uses both

What kind of autism is this? If you want it pan fried why not just use a stove?

>>10773587
OP here...prepared four different meals using the same heat source...do try and keep up

>>10773698
Keep up with what? I see one fucking burger, retard. Where's the rest that I'm supposed to keep up with? Let me guess, did you sperg out and shit up the board by making four fucking thread threads?

>>10773510
Looks descent.

>>10773771
Hi there!

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>>10773750
the only sperging out i see in this thread is coming from you, retard. god forbid people dont cook things exactly how you think they should. stay mad faggot.

>>10773476
What kind of meat is that?
I made a lamb burger the other day, was delicious.

>>10773792
>...do try and keep up
Did you miss this part? What is there to keep up with? And yeah, I checked the catalog and saw OP (I think) made at least one other thread with chicken. Apparently there may be up to four? I guess I'll try to keep up...

God forbid OP keeps it to one thread for a shitty cook out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbCgfiqq-5c

/THREAD

>>10773788
>You appear to have used a tripcode when posting

>>10773510
>thin as burger
>bird seed
>tomatoes
>paltry piece of lettuce
>mayo based sauce
>poor cheese distribution
>white onions instead of red onions
0/10

>>10773510
add pickles but this looks good

>>10773926
>my gay reddit boyfriend loves Babish

>>10773994
kek
copypastafag btfo

>>10773837
'Sperger

>>10773510
Best looking burger ive seen on this board in like i dunno
ever

How do I pound my meat? It keeps falling apart.

>>10773476
That's a lovely grease pool you have there. Good thinking on getting your buns to completely absorb your two bottles of oil, I'm sure it's very healthy and not at all a fucking mess of a soggy pile of shit.

>>10773698
>>10773792
It doesn't matter how many burger you made. Putting a pan on the grill defeats the purpose of using the grill in the first place.

>>10774719
What is the purpose of a grill?

>>10775073
To get the flavours of the grill and the smoke.

>>10775139
So what exactly does a grill taste like? I was always taught to not apply the meat or whatever until the coals stop smoking.

>>10775196
>smoke from burning wood = bad
>smoke from meat fat/juices dripping down onto white hot coals = good
that's typically the "taste" of the grill that people talk about, anon

>>10775196
It’s the dripping moisture and fat burning that help flavor the meat. True charcoal adds a unique flavor as well. (Wood chips in a smoker box add smoke flavoring).

>>10775139
Grilled burgers suck. All of the flavor drips into the coals and you get flare ups. OP is smart using a griddle because it gives a better sear retains juices and still allows for a degree of smokiness.

>>10775196
when juices come out of meat they hit the hot coals which produces smoke . smoke is where you get the flavor . depending on the heat source the flavor will differ, for example mesquite hardwood charcoal is gonna taste different than regular charcoal briquetes

>>10775225
You must be a bong or something, the flavours don't drip out just because of some loss of fat

>>10775235
>i have the palate of a goat

How fine should I grind my burger meat? I have access to an industrial grinder so I can do whatever size I want. Also should I press it really tight when molding the burger or should I leave some air in there?

>>10775282

coarse. and don't fucking beat the piss out of it afterwards. You want it as loose as possible. pat it together and fry, or grill.

>>10773803
Lamb burger is delicious. Had one today with seasoned with rosemary, garlic, and lemongrass with fresh mint and goat cheese. Amazing

Anyone eat burgers with wild game? I've heard boar is shitty cause the flavor depends on their diet too much. Would bison or venison make good burgers?

>>10775285
Just curious: what are the downsides of a really fine grind or a pressed burger?

>>10775300

It'll bounce like a racquetball, taste like .. a racquetball. Tough, no fat internally and just terrible flavour because its devoid of flavour giving fat.

>>10775297
>bison
>venison
Generally no unless cut with some extra fat.
Ground venison is commonly cut with pork fat.

>>10775300
A dense mealy texture like dry meatloaf

>>10773484
>>10773486
Burn one side and call it a "good sear."

>>10775297

I made a souvlaki once that dripped lamb fat on coals and it.. 15 years later, still reminds me of a flavour so hard for me to find. Goddamn rosemary garlic.. and then feta with tzatziki.

omg.. I just had a flashback.

>>10775323
>i am autistic

>>10774658
>t. fell off turnip truck and landed in this thread

>>10775308
But if I use a high fat ratio for the grind won't it still be fatty? Not saying you're wrong just don't have much experience with burgers

>>10773792
lmao. why not just cook it directly on the grill, youd get an actual grilled taste then. everyone knows grilling is the BEST method for cooking meat. no burger in a pan could beat one on the grill. certainly no faggy butter basted steak with rosemary

>>10775346

Once you start packing it doesn't matter if you use lean or 80/20. It goes all to shit. You have to be gentle. Trust me. I can't offer you scientific proof, but ask any burger expert. From the Burger Institute of America.

Dry tomatoes in the oven with some olive oil, on a silpat

Parmesan crisp

Season patty after cooking with a powder made from a dried sardine, dried shiitake mushrooms, and dried kombu kelp.

Shredded lettuce instead of a more whole leaf.

>>10775361

I honestly love mouth feces burgers.

>>10775225
>>10775217
>>10775332

>>10773484
you burned that burger so black it stole my bike

>>10773803
It's descent meat. You can't even get it without going pretty low.

>>10775332
I know you are.

>>10773476
>descent meat
How deep should I dig for it?

>>10776355
You should fuck off to /lit/ where they care about this kind of pedantry.

>descent

>>10773489
Wrong, American or basic cheddar anything else is for fucking pussies

>>10776379

>>10774286

this guy

>>10776355
Until you find blind feral humanoid goblins

>>10776379
>can't take banter
Why are you even here?

>>10776459
I thought those things eat humans.
Will that make me a cannibal by proxy?

>>10773771
tripfag get out reeeee

>>10775838
Thats not burned at all and for those talking shit about using cast iron on a grill its obvoius youve never done it because you do still get a smoky grill quality except with better color and flavor.
OP clearly knows what he is doing

>>10773510
10/10 the classic american burger

>>10776602
On an open grill like that? lol no. Maybe on a covered grill you will get a little, but not nearly as much putting it directly on with no pan. Nice try though.

>>10776671
Since you have never actually tried, your opinion is invalid.

>>10776764
I haven't myself, but I've been at cook outs where retards like you put pans on grills and it's not nearly the same. If you want pan fried burgers that's fine, heck they might even be better, but don't act like it's the same as grilling. You just make yourself look even more stupid.

Since this thread has an autistic debate about pan frying and grilling I think this may be the best place to ask this.
Should I get an arteflame grill for my backyard?

>>10773510
>he doesn't make his own burger sauce, refrigerated for at least 24 hours to mature in flavor

>>10773476
>puts whole peppercorns on burger as "seasoning"
just what i love, biting into pebbles.

>>10773510
I'd pay for that desu

>>10773788
>trip

>>10776524
That's not a trip you fucking retard

>>10773476
You making meatloaf OP?

>>10773485
Yeah, it descends to the ground. That's why it's called *ground* beef.

>>10778700

>>10773771
shoo shoo namefag

>>10773496
heh

>>10773489
Better be Gouda Cheese

>>10773510
>>10773476
What sauce did you use/ how did you make it?

>>10773750
OP here.

Cooked sausages and corn on the open grill.
Then used the griddle for burgers and chicken
>>10773803
I dont know...80/20 beef. Couldnt tell you what part of the cow. Good chance it wasnt even cow.
>>10774658
Thank you
>>10774706
You dont seem to understand how high heat and fat work when toasting bread. Crisp and delicious...far from soggy
>>10774719
Mmm....no
>>10775225
You get it
>>10775350
But youre wrong. Grilling is not necessarily the best method.
>>10775838
Try harder
>>10776671
First off...who said i didnt have a lid? Secondly...you either dont cook out much or still have mom doing your laundry and cleaning. EVERYTHING within 5 feet of a good fire takes on the smokiness.
>>10776654
Thank you
>>10776995
Youre talking out of your ass
>>10777026
Peppercorns were all cracked...thats why theyre called cracked peppercorns. Some were cracked less than others but all were cracked and none were powder. If you have a problem with real pepper then stick with McCormick.
>>10778685
Youre retarded
>>10779006
Aged Vermont Cheddar. Gouda is good though
>>10779195
Haha just a sriracha mayo

>>10773476
>Start with descent meat.
Wrong. That's like using good meat to make chicken fried steak. It's meant to be the shit meat.

>>10779562
>Haha just a sriracha mayo
Thanks any other sauces you use/would recommend?

>>10779572

Start with urine soaked ground hobo.

>>10779572
Perhaps you dont understand what 'decent' means

>>10774286
>>10774658
Lol

>>10773510
Looks pretty good although personally I'm against tomatoes on a burger.

>>10773510
Any burger with onions, tomatoes, and anything but salt and pepper as seasoning is disgusting. The true burger is a potato bun, 80/20 beef, salt, pepper, american cheese, and a light smear of ketchup on the bottom bun.

>>10778700
stop

>>10773510
>no guac

F. Apply yourself.

>>10779612
same

>>10779633
Kill yourself, tastelet. Tomatoes and onions help cut through all of the salt and richness

>>10779991
That's what the ketchup is for, poor person. Tomatoes and onions are overpowering and put awful textures into the burger that shouldn't be there.

Worthless fucking subhuman, go figure your life out.

>>10780021
>poor person
>ketchup is rich people food
Oh no my friend, real produce grown from heirloom seed is rich people food, you poor poverty stricken fool.

>>10780035
>durrrr FRESH vegetables really makes the flavor

poor AND stupid

the point of the ketchup is to be unobtrusive, but accessorizing. To make this metaphor a bit more relatable to your income bracket, it's like digging through the garbage for food for the week, and finding a six pack of pabst blue ribbon - it certainly doesn't hinder the food your poor ass is eating, but it does provide a nice little taste over the top that can really make your day.

now fuck off, poor person. hold the L

>>10780054
>ketchup supporter

I bet you think mcshit is gourmet food too.

>>10780054
>this poor faggot thinks that people with income spurn vegetables in favor of heavily processed food
lel
Before you backpedal you never mentioned something that your chef makes for you from scratch.

>>10773489
How many people cummed on that poor piece of meat

>>10778700
Thanks for the laugh.

>>10774286

>>10780021
>hamburger is supposed to be meat and ketchup
jesus fucking christ stop sperging you autistic moron, you obviously know nothing about food.

Why not use slices of some meat?
Patties are too thick and have worse texture.

>>10773587
Pretty much what I thought

>>10780021
>ketchup
>I like a little tomato flavoring with my heaps of sugar and glycol
Kys

>>10776602
You probably struggle to boil water correctly, yet still vehemently defend shit that is not true and doesn't work. OP is trolling or is a hack.

>>10777005
>Should I get an arteflame grill for my backyard?
Sure why not? Looks nice, but keep in mind it's going to take more fuel and time to heat the cast cooking surface to temp. It'd be nice for large cookouts, but not so much for grilling a few steaks for the family. Although, you could use it as a plain old fire pit too.

>>10777039
>I'd pay for that desu
Later, while sitting on the toilet.

>>10781611
>glycol

>>10773788

good bot

>>10781830
It does make a good fire pit, you can get different heights for the base and also remove the top to make it a fire bowl, I have even seen people spit roast whole hogs on it.

>>10781811
Not op nor anon but as an avid camper and outdoor cook i can assure you that some degree of smokiness is always imparted when food is cooked over an open wood fire or coals. From corn chowder in a cast-iron cauldron to bacon and eggs on my flattop...it all has an undeniable outdoor campfire smokey quality. Im going to guess you dont cook with charcoal...maybe a gas guy...and that is a little different. With gas there is little smoke. With charcoal smoke gets on and in everything near the source. Its not like actual smoking with hardwood but yes...a cheeseburger cooked on a griddle over open coals is in fact going to have a grilled/smokey flavor. You are simply wrong to say otherwise and it it clear you have no first hand experience.

>>10776422
Tastelet too afraid to recognize he’s a tastelet found

>>10773788
that's just a name not a trip

your pasta stands though

>>10780054
>ketchup
>unobtrusive

>>10773476
>No egg
Kys

>>10773510
Do you work for one of those companies that take pictures of food for advertisements?

>>10782659
Op here haha no.
Thats just a regular ol cellphone pic

>>10782545
>Agreed

t. burger maker

>>10781811
>OP is a hack
Nigga please
That burger is legit
You reek of envy

>>10773476
>homemade bun
>pattie has prefried bacon and onions in it.
>have akathasia so hands shake

>>10773510
>Sauce at the bottom
Retard

>>10779562
OP confirmed for a being a fucking faggot like usual

>>10784007
makes the sauce touch your tongue faster, brainlet.

>>10785543
Why not take a sip of sauce before every bite?

>>10785543
>muh sauce
it's called a BURGER tard, not a fucking sauce sandwich with meat

>>10773496
>>10780168

>>10785546
I do

>>10783962
>shakey hands
That would explain the chalky bun the shit lettuce and weird looking meat.

Why do we have a 3-day old thread on burger making with only two pictures of burgers made by /ck/?
Does /ck/ not oh...
Summer.
/ck/ isnt old enough to fire up the grill

Now its past /ck/s bedtime

>>10788650
May /ck/ get a glass of water?

>>10776519
no they eat descent meat

>>10773483

Caramelized white and yellow onions make everything better.

>>10788713
>white
>yellow
Shut the fuck up.
The difference is nearly indistinguishable when raw and a person...particularly you...will never know the difference once theyre caramelized.

>>10788654
GO TO BED!!!

>>10778933
It's TRIPFAG young man!

>>10779562
>Aged Vermont Cheddar

I used to love the idea of gourmet cheeses on burgers, but then I realized you can barely taste the cheese at all unless it's multiple slices of American. Rather eat the good cheese on its own and use American cheese to get a burger nice and gooey.

>>10773510
looks pretty good. would eat

>>10790274
Um...aged vermont cheddar though good is far from "gourmet".

>>10790274
american cheese is the best cheese for burgers

>>10790475
You've apparently never encountered our resident WIDF poster, it's not only exclusive gourmet luxury cheese, it's also made in Wisconsin since "New England is basically a part of Wisconsin" (I wish I was making this up)

>>10778700

>>10788688
>doesn't get the reference
>replies anyway

>>10773476
>>10773484
>>10773489
>>10773502
Your poor veins. BAKA!

>>10773476

I do not eat beefburgers

>>10783962
>t. diabetic

>>10778700
Nice

>>10775297
I love lamb burgers as well.

I have made a bison burger once before. I found it hard to work with. Looking back, I should have used bread crumbs and a little oil to 'beef' it up since it's very lean and weirdly mushy, but I added an egg at the time thinking it would help bind it and it just made it twice as mushy, which required more dry filler in the end to make it stick together like bad meatballs.
Could have been bad bison perhaps. It tasted good regardless.

>>10773587
Is that the sex cult girl?

>>10773484
That is a beautiful sear anon, don't listen to the dickshits saying it is burned. I've been working in the restaurant industry for 10 years and if I went somewhere to get a burger and it came out with that crust I would be thoroughly pleased.

>>10773510
Now that's just quality.

>>10774719
Entirely incorrect. A grill will get to a higher temperature and maintain it given OP controls the heat source properly. And it feels good to be outdoors and cooking, it is a primal act.

>>10792201
>mushy

sounds like it was ground at too high a temperature. To maintain de/s/cent texture its important to grind while very cold.

>>10792572
Get back to the dishpit.

>>10773476
What if I only have ascent meat?

>>10792984
Temperature and/or cook time may need to be increased.

>>10775323
>>10775838
>>10773484
The burger isn't burned, but the black peppercorn and dehydrated onion it's smothered in is. This is why you don't pepper the burger before you cook it. Add black pepper after, or near the end. It's the one thing I see so many "chefs" and cooking shows and shit get completely wrong.

>>10773476
so how far down do we have to go?

>>10774286
>bird seed
>mayo based sauce
>poor cheese distribution
what the fuck is wrong with you

>>10788743
Durr I'm a tastelet and cant tell the difference.
Get the fuck out of here.

>>10773510

Cuts it open, charred thin patty has no signs of life, doesn't post pic.

Mars has more life in it than that fucking thing.

>>10773484
Wow, lose all the flavor in the sear why don't ya?

>>10793029
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>10794439
No one can once theyre caramelized summerfag

>tried both burger with normal beef patty and 1 with wagyu beef patty
>they taste exactly the same

is there really any difference?

>>10794730
enjoy your burnt pepper you literal retard

>>10795074
Once you grind the meat there is no difference. What distiguishes extremely high quality meat from common comercial grade is the marbling...which is lost when the meat is ground.

Now someone will argue this point saying they ate a $100 wagyu burger and it was much better than a $15 angus burger...and they may very well be right but its because of the other ingredients and the people making the burger.