/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Yeah, its really funny the things that Boomer coasties will get mad about

>casual dining
>sit-down restaurants
for me (a millenial) it's extreme dining and lay-down restaruants

>>10773280
>that black hand

Thats because they have mediocre food and chicken wings are the biggest bullshit. I can get a whole fucking chicken for the cost of 5 wings.

>>10773280
god i havnt seen this article in such a long time from a year ago.

>>10773280
maybe stop charging so much for chicken and shitty beer

>>10773280
>millennial consumer are more attracted than their elders to cooking at home, ordering delivery from restaurants, and eating quickly
So... millennials are more interested in eating than boomers?

>>10773280
... And that's a good thing!

>>10773805
Not sure about the cooking at home thing, pretty sure that is false. Millenials eat out more than any previous generation, they just choose to do it at either good local places or fast casual chains so the big sit down chains are dying an the fast food chains aren't doing as well (though not as dramatically so as the big boomer sit down chains)

>>10773280
Does anyone know the origin for this type of title or op's "and that is a good thing"? Is it a book or a popular website that everyone starting imitating?

I can understand clickbait lists like "Top 5 blah blah blah" since it is just a lazy but simple to read stuff. This "X is killing Y" and "And that is a good thing" is so sensationalistic I just lose any interest in reading them.

>>10773845
The media loves blaming Millenials for things in negative articles even if those things are objectively good. Mainly because like half of people don't understand what "millenial" means and just use it as code for "people younger than me that I am afraid of because they are slightly different than my peers"

>>10773280
My kid's Mom uses to be a waitress at Applebees and said the shit they would to rude customers food was so horrendous, it was indescribable. Also, the staff were like animals in heat and everybody was always hooking up with each other. Even the manager was a slut and would frequently fuck the waiters and bartenders.
Fucking whore would disappear all night while I stayed home with our 2 year old daughter.
Now 11 years later she is a literal prostitute that is in a sex trade website and she goes to these parties at motels where dudes show up and pay a fee and fuck whichever of the prostitutes they choose.
And she is a raging crystal meth addict that lives at her Dad's while she is over 30 years old.
FUCK you, whore. You will be dead soon whether it's by overdose, suicide, or some John kills her.
And she tried to kill herself a few years ago.
Fucking whore

>>10773594
>lay-down restaruants

good choice

>>10773280
old article is old

If we want a legit discussion about this it should about how TGI/applebutts/etc all suck.If I wanted a microwaved burger and day-old soggy fries, I could do it myself and spend way less than $9.99.

A good restaurant is a restaurant that makes dishes that the average cunt either doesnt have time to or just can't cook as well as them. I blame youtube recipe videos (Jack, LOL) more than I blame what generation a person was born in.

>>10773868
As far as BWW is concerned, I still enjoy their tuesday wing deal from time to time but only if the middle-school educated cooks fry them extra crispy. Its worth it for 60 cents/wing if I'm feeling like being a fatass.

>>10773862
Your fault for knocking up some neurotic roastie

>>10773890
I regret nothing

>>10773862
Should not have married a whore

>>10773862

>>10773894
You honestly expect me to believe that?

>>10773875
BWW's has ok wings, but they are strangely expensive. Worst part about the place is they have a pretty big beer selection that they somehow manage to make 75% generic shitty macro beers with a small handful of the local staples, almost no interesting rotating taps like any wing place should have. Like what the hell is the point of having 10 variations of adjunct lagers such a waste of valuable tap lines

>>10773862
based rage cuck poster

>>10773899
I never married her. If I had to pay her alimony, then I would be the one who is suicidal, lol

>>10773914
Why would you have a child out of wedlock? You degenerates disgust me.

>X explained
>"...and that's a good thing"

I want to personally strangle every fucking pathetic, waste of air, dipshit excuse for a reporter that has ever used any variation of those in their article titles

>>10773845
It's a very common trope in media because it's a very basic form of mind control, or however you'd like to put it. You can just say what's happened/happening, but that leaves the viewer room to interpret on their own.

For example, think of the various articles over the years with a bunch of pictures of mixed-race people and the headline "Here's what America will look like in 50 years, and it's beautiful!" If they left out the part telling you what to think, many might find it disturbing.

There are plenty of other ways to accomplish this kind of stuff without tired and obvious rhetorical devices, so it's basically just lazy journalism

>>10773868
And that's what it's moving to. As much as I despise millennials, they're sharp enough to realize sysco microwaved deep fried frozen food is pig slop. They're similar to the boomers who led the craft beer rebellion against adjunct megacorporate feminine trash. It's one thing they're doing correctly, food in the US will get better.

>>10773937
But the article is presenting it as a bad thing, because coasties really hate if you harm a business that trades on the stock exchange in favor of locally owned restaurants

>>10773958
>because coasties really hate if you harm a business that trades on the stock exchange in favor of locally owned restaurants
That's funny, because every time I go to flyover country you people insist on eating at Panera or Cheesecake Factory because the only locally owned restaurants... actually I just figured it out. I was going to say "are owned by minorities and sell food that isn't white bread with mayo". You don't consider them Americans or deserving of support.

Why do flyovers hate real food?

>casual dining
You mean
>bland chains for geriactric fucks who can't eat anything other than meat lettuce and potatoes

>>10773845
Basically what >>10773949 said, but recently journalists have been doing it more deliberately because people started making fun of them for it. And as we all know, when people call you retarded you double down and do it even harder.

>>10773971
Note, the concept has nothing to do with what they like to eat, just that they are more concerned about stock values than good food
>people insist on eating at Panera or Cheesecake Factory because the only locally owned restaurants
haha what? Are you seriously implying that locally owned restaurants are a coastie thing, and rare in the rest of the country?

Your post is really confusingly not based in the real world

>>10773971
>was going to say "are owned by minorities and sell food that isn't white bread with mayo".
What is this even a reference to?

>>10773280
Literally boomers are the reason restaurants are mostly shit. They only eat at terrible chains where they can get Coors Light, wings and mediocre hamburgers.

>>10773862
What would they do to the food?

>>10774006
No, they are not rare by any means. It's just that they are not patronized by what a died-in-the-wool flyover would call "locally owned" because if your name isn't Miller or Thompson, then the safety of your food is highly suspect and diarrhea jokes abound when the subject of it comes up in "polite company"

Try taking an authentic local flyover to say, one of the excellent Arab joints in Dearborn, a city in the midwest state of Michigan, some of which have been recognized by the James Beard Foundation for excellence

They will either refuse to eat there due to diarrhea fears, or they will make a bunch of suicide bombing jokes right in front of the staff, as if they cannot understand english because they have a funny accent

>>10773971
Minorities don't live in flyovers, dweeb

>>10774058
Even traditional flyover pastimes like hunting will be white minority in 20 years. And that's a good thing.

>>10774041
If anything you should be complaining about the opposite, how few of the restaurants are owned by black people which is a real phenomena (probably becausethere are so few of them, and the populations have so little money to open a place with). Remember, your original point was somehow that Midwesterners do not have local restaurants, even if you disregard all of the asian, mexican and middle eastern restaurants the midwest has great access to local white owned restaurants, your whole concept that white owned restaurants are not a thing there is super weird and blatantly wrong.

Not to mention the whole racist stuff is way offbase. If anything midwesterners fall over themselves to show how "nice" an inclusive they are, they are beset by white guilt and one of their worst fears is to be perceived as racist by their peers. Sounds like you whole shtick is basically just a hyperbolic caricature of elderly people rather than anything regional

>>10773280
As a boomer I would rather millennials and the rest of humanity die out then succeed. Your all traitors to your grandparents and parents. I don't know where to go for lunch now that Applebees closed in our city and it's all their fault.

Eliminate tipping

>>10774071
Pretty sure Hmong aren't breeding fast enough to out number white people. They are a not insignificant minority in the upper midwest but even in towns where their numbers are largest they are still a fairly small minority (but they do run a lot of good Vietnamese and thai places in the area, so thats nice)

>>10774073
>a real phenomena
Phenomenon. That annoys me more than it should, so go ahead and call me a grammar nazi, I don't have a point because blah blah blah. Whatever. Just use the correct word.

>If anything midwesterners fall over themselves to show how "nice" an inclusive they are
Please. What you call "nice" is actually just asking a lot of passive aggressive, unnecessarily personal questions in order to suss out the newcomer's weaknesses.

>they are beset by white guilt and one of their worst fears is to be perceived as racist by their peers
I mean yeah, if you call them out and say "that's racist", they will act contrite. But one does not "call things out" in the midwest, that's far too direct, and directness is considered equivalent to rudeness. And anyway in their minds, it's not racist because the other person can't understand it anyway.

I don't really care about black people, the whole "whites vs blacks" is a contrived rivalry that largely exists because of southerners, and I don't visit the south as a matter of policy. White food = black food. Bland unappealing processed garbage.

Millennials are paying $15-$20 for burgers so these chains are missing something.

>>10774041
So you're right because your racist presumptions say that others will have racist presumptions? Get a fucking grip you smelly brownie.

>>10774111
>I'm not racist! y-you're the racist for calling me racist!

>>10774058
>I've never traveled to the south

>>10774071
Nogs are big time hunter and fisherman in the south and they probably know how to breakdown and clean their weapons unlike you paintball warriors, lol!

>>10774097
>What you call "nice" is actually just asking a lot of passive aggressive
I mean I intentionally put it in quotes for that very implication
>unnecessarily personal questions in order to suss out the newcomer's weaknesses.
Nah, its more just being friendly specifically to avoid not looking friendly

Also, you are completely avoiding your original confusing point that midwesterners do not have locally owned non-minority restaurants. Please elaborate on this because I am genuinely confused about what you are referencing

>I don't really care about black people, the whole "whites vs blacks" is a contrived rivalry
Well thats the only real racial thing in the midwest, non-black minorities are pretty well integrated into the white communities unlike the black neighborhoods. There are some mexican neighborhoods but midwesterners just don't have the same apprehension about entering them as they do the black ones

>>10774125
>black people openly carrying weapons
How exactly does that work, wouldn't they instantly get shot in the back by some guy dressed like Boss Hogg?

>>10773280
>boomers have terrible taste and as a result these abominations proliferate for decades
>millennials fully expected to keep them in business even though they are terrible

>>10774125
>>I've never traveled to the south
90% of the time when someone says "flyover" they mean the midwest

>>10774117
Me insulting your disgraceful presence has no bearing on your unreasonable hatred for flyovers (who are conveniently all white)

>>10774041
this one's going in my libtard compilation

>>10773280
Buffalo Wild Wings is run by niggers who can cook shit. Wingstop is also run by niggers but the wings turn out good.

>>10774131
Well I am obviously excluding stuff like Perkins and Bob Evans, perhaps that's unfair since they are technically both locally owned, and private (your original point had something to do with share values)

>>10774142
>conveniently
It's not just a matter of convenience but of definitions, I do not consider Hmoob Lee down at Golden Excellent Noodle Roll to be a "flyover" in mentality, nor do locals consider him a local. One must keep in mind that these are people who will gladly support the arrest and detention of someone standing in line to pay for gas, simply for speaking a foreign language.

>>10773280
It's funny because all the hipsters around here have started going to bdubs again because it's "so ironic funny to hang out at a dying corporate shit restaurant."

>>10774170
>Well I am obviously excluding stuff like Perkins and Bob Evans, perhaps that's unfair since they are technically both locally owned, and private (your original point had something to do with share values)
So just to clarify, you think that the midwest has a bunch of minority owned restaurants that people are too racist to go to (but somehow stay in business regardless), and the only white owned places are shitty chains, the very ones the coastie boomers are lamenting the death of? You think white people don't run countless regular ass restaurants both good and bad across the region?

Like do you think this whole premise even sounds plausible, like maybe you are missing a piece here?

>>10773937

>>10774170
Asians are pretty fucking integrated into white society in the midwest

>>10774193
Yes, basically, your clarification is accurate.

But see that's what makes it such a fun place to visit as long as I can find a pretext to not eat with the authentic locals. You can find hmong food made to hmong tastes, arab food made to arab tastes, eritrean food made to eritrean tastes, mexican food made to mexican tastes.

Because the locals are so afraid it will give them diarrhea or they'll be killed and eaten when they walk through the door, or whatever, that these groups see no sense in attempting to please "the locals". They will stick with their Bob Evans. And the real food stays unmolested by Betsy and her indignant demands for "normal food".

>>10773825
Did you... not read the OP?

>>10774196
>Emily Goldstein
Pure coincidence, anyone might say something like that

>>10774207
>Because the locals are so afraid it will give them diarrhea or they'll be killed and eaten when they walk through the door
Or they could, I dunno, look at the menu and see a bunch of dishes that sound unappetizing. But no, brown people scary, Richard Daniel Miller no want.

>>10774207
Ok, well I am here to inform you that that is very much incorrect, none of that is how any of this works, the vast majority of local restaurants are white owned because the vast majority of the people are likewise white, but variaus asian and mexican places are very common and popular too. Middle eastern in some parts too, but to a much lesser extent. But regardless of all of your obviously incorrect racial fear stuff, please at least recognize that white people own restaurants too, like really fucking often, they are literally everywhere in the midwest

Also, is Bob Evans even a midwestern chain? I am hardly even familiar with it, basically just know it is a chain. I feel like I have seen them in Indiana maybe

>>10774225
>meat cooked with seasonings and served with starches and/or vegetables
>OMG! what is that! OMG! gross!

>>10774198
they pretty much integrate into white american culture in the city too. If they were born in the US they will probably like some foods that normie whites don't know about but that's about it.

>>10774229
But that's precisely how it works.

And substitute "Perkin's" or "Culver's" or "Portilo's" or "Pizza Lucce's" depending on your state, of course. I don't know where you live so I can't always precisely speak in the local slang.

>>10774235
>hey pretty much integrate into white american culture in the city too
What city? Are you trying to contrast cities with the midwest? The vast majority of the midwest's population lives in urban metro areas, its the second most urban part of the country. In the midwest, asian populations are small so they live entirely within white communities and fit in normally. Its basically only black populations that don't because they geographically segregate themselves by neighborhood

>>10774240
Why do you keep bringing fast food chains up when we are talking about locally owned restaurants?

>>10773280
All of these places are shit, overpriced boomer food, maybe when I'm 30+ I'll appreciate it

>>10773280
>order shitty mass produced beer and some wings at lunch
>16 dollars
>why are millennials not eating here?

gee i wonder why

>>10774244
I guess I meant coastie cities

>>10774232
This is a fair description of vegans tho

>>10774246
Perkin's is owned by a private equity firm based in, I believe, Wayzata or Minnetonka or some place like that. Culver's is owned by the Culver family from the Madison area in Wisconsin. Portillo's I honestly don't know, but I assume it's owned by someone in Chicago. Pizza Lucce's is, if I recall, owned by a family in northern Minnesota. Bob Evan's is owned by a family in, I believe, Cleveland.

These are some of the most popular restaurants in the midwest with a great deal of "local pride" associated with them, I'm not really sure why you're pretending otherwise.

>>10773280
Can Boston pizza die now?

They're everywhere in Canada and I just don't fucking get it. shit food shit beer and its not cheap either.

food for unimaginative people who are afraid of flavours

ive watch millennials pay 30 dollars for a burger with kimchi on it before, you cant tell me they wont spend money on eating out

>>10774270
I understand that, but thats pretty obviously not what one means when discussing locally owned restaurants. They are pretty obviously talking about non-chains or at the most small local chain

>>10774270
>These are some of the most popular restaurants in the midwest with a great deal of "local pride" associated
I mean, I would eat at Culver's over McDonalds any day, but no one considers it on par with a local sit down restaurant

>>10774251
It runs deeper than that
>Get dressed and shower, wait for your roastie to make up and pick an outfit
>So you can pay for underpaid employees to bring you re-heated food you hope they don't fuck with
>Pay for an uber home
Or
>Stay home in pajamas and reheat your own frozen wings and get drunk for the price of 4 drinks
>Watch films in bed from netflix/kodi

Boomers literally can't comprehend not turning everything into "An experience"

>>10774284
But those are pretty rare, other than the places owned by Arabs and Mexicans and that sort of thing. "Local" midwesterners by and large are distrustful of places that don't have at least a half dozen locations in the area. Look at what happened when Jean-Georges Vongerichten tried to open a spot in Minneapolis. Shuttered within a year because in the minds of locals, high end restaurants ought to serve prime rib, mash, and maybe some fine imported beers like Becks or perhaps a grasshopper, like I saw Frank Sinatra drinking one time in a documentary about Las Vegas.

Exact same thing happened to Marcus Samuelsson although I think that was largely race related (I mean you can understand their shock and confusion when a guy with a last name like that turns out to look like pic related and STILL has the temerity to charge $100+ for dinner)

>>10774311
>But those are pretty rare, other than the places owned by Arabs and Mexicans and that sort of thing.
Dude, no, no they aren't.

>>10774311
Most midwestern cities, especially in the upper midwest have excellent food scenes. Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison, the Twin Cities, Ann Arbor, even Detroit. its just mind boggling how one guy can so consistently say so many factually incorrect things but say them as though he thinks he knows what he is talking about

>>10774273
>Canada
>food for unimaginative people who are afraid of flavours
no imaginative food has ever come out of Canada. It should not be surprising that shitty food is popular there

>>10774311
Why are you so fixated on this particular arab restaurant in Minnesota shutting down? It looks like a classic case of a classy place overstepping the price range of the area and failing because of it.

>>10773845
https://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-goldstein/2015/05/get-rid-of-white-people/

>>10774337
Chicago is kind of the outlier there, they have sort of a special ghetto of "fancy" spots, almost entirely confined within the Loop and a few surrounding neighborhoods, but the odd thing is there is literally zero middle ground. It's greasy pub grub, fast food joints, cheap ethnic spots, or super high end shit.

As for the others, save for one or two spots in Milwaukee and Minneapolis, no, I'm afraid not. But luckily fear-gripped locals inadvertently maintain the purity of their immigrant pockets by never venturing there. So it's quite possible to obtain good food in the midwest, as long as you're willing to dine alone.

I usually just say "I'm really tired, can we just catch up tomorrow before the meeting". Best not to go into details, ESPECIALLY not which restaurant that you went to. They will generally be aghast and assume you were in "the bad neighborhood" to buy drugs or some other illicit activity.

>>10774345
What arab restaurant? I think maybe you confused me with another poster? Or did you mean the one in Dearborn? As far as I know it's still in operation but I haven't been there in a couple of years.

>>10774368
>But luckily fear-gripped locals inadvertently maintain the purity of their immigrant pockets by never venturing there
This is probably the clearest giveaway that you have never been to these cities. People avoid the black neighborhoods (which is pretty easy to do), there are not self contained arab or asain neighborhoods in these places for the most part, they are integrated with the white communities.

And there are basically no good restaurants in the black neighborhoods, so saying you went there for food would indeed be confusing to a local.

You obviously are just making shit up on the fly now though, the Twin Cities and Milwaukee both have excellent food scenes, an the good food in Chicago is definitely not limited to the loop

>>10774395
Let's go out for Black Food

a phrase i've never heard

>>10774410
the black neighborhoods of the midwest are truly food wastelands

If this guy really wanted to hit on something he should focus on that

>>10774410
Because that's not a thing, nigger. The closest you'll get to some generalized 'black' is Jamaican or Creole.

I don't like to have to tip

>>10774433
or like the entire American black community

>>10774437
O B S E S S E D

>>10774395
>they are integrated with the white communities.
Why don't you walk (I know midwesterns are allergic to walking but go out on a limb with me here, you won't die unless your heart is weak) from say the CBD of Minneapolis to the CBD of Saint Paul, and tell me how "integrated" the somalis or the khmers are.

>And there are basically no good restaurants in the black neighborhoods
I'll have to take your word on that.

> the Twin Cities and Milwaukee both have excellent food scenes, an the good food in Chicago is definitely not limited to the loop
I never said anything to the contrary though. But as I said you have to visit the more immigrantish places, where the locals are loth to tread. Although there are, as I also said, a few higher end spots in those cities. For instance if you want wine that isn't a complete joke, you're not finding it outside the Loop, River West and the Near North Side. There are places that put on a pretense of caring about wine of course. Some of the well off outer neighborhoods like Lincoln Park or the rich exurban communities like Winnetka. But the wine will be outdated and embarrassing. Laden with Napa battle-axes or period cult wines straight out of a 1990s corporate crime genre film starring Richard Gere.

At any rate I have a different opinion so I am now trolling and/or insane, right? That's where we are with this? Just confirming, although it seems clear with your opener "you disagree so you have never been here", which is the same phase of the argument. Also this is where you bring out the maps, right?

>>10774453
Yeah, this is basically all wrong. Except the somali part, see the stuff on black neighborhoods

>>10774453
>But the wine will be outdated
What does this even mean?

>At any rate I have a different opinion so I am now trolling and/or insane
Note that facts still are not a matter of opinion, so if you honestly believe incorrect things even in the face of people correcting you, you are most likely a troll, maybe insane but trolling seems quite a bit more probable

>>10774453
>Also this is where you bring out the maps, right?
God forbid someone show data that directly contradicts your shtick Not sure what maps would be directly related to this conversation though. Don't think there are any white owned restaurants per capita maps out there, still waiting on any evidence fro you that white people don't own restaurants in the midwest

>>10774482
What's fascinating about these conversations is that we're 100% talking past each other the entire time. It's like you've got some kind of special reality distortion bubble that prevents you from grasping the fact that you're afraid of immigrants and in general good food, you find ways of rationalizing it away. Nu-uh no we're not afraid of immigrants. Nu-uh ur the racist. Nu-uh they're well integrated! Nu-uh, I just don't like the food because it is strong smelling and has a funny name, I was just joking about the diarrhea.

You sometimes come close to grasping it but some sort of programming gets activated and you resort to "well, obviously I meant except the perkins", "well obviously I didn't mean THOSE immigrants, they're terrible! I mean the ones I like!", and so on. And when I call you out (which is culturally considered an egregious breach of etiquette in midwest land), I'm trolling and/or insane.

>>10774490
Meaning, it represents "trophy" wines of yore - embarrassingly outdated.

>>10774500
I already gave you many examples of white owned restaurants in the midwest, is this the part where you suddenly get amnesia?

>>10774512
Yeah, none of this is based on real things. Maybe try visiting once, you might find some food you like, probably at much better prices than you are used to

>>10773867
Meh, the Romans did it better

>>10773280
If they expanded their wine lists they might stand a chance but boomers would think it is faggy

>>10774528
I would recommend some of my favorite restaurants in flyover country but knowing this website you'll probably post it on /pol/ with an elaborate conspiracy about how it's actually a pedo ring run by Governor Mark Dayton in cahoots with the late Senator Paul Wellstone. Enjoy your Perkins though.

>>10774526
>I already gave you many examples of white owned restaurants in the midwest, is this the part where you suddenly get amnesia?
Note the post that started this whole thing where you argue that white people do not own restaurants in the midwest
>>10773971
A post just littered with obviously incorrect statements and concepts

Sure you later tried to shoehorn some commentary on white people owning fast food chains, but that was entirely unrelated to the topic and completely sidestepped your initial insanely misinformed position.

White people factually own the vast majority of non-chain, non-fast food sit down restaurants throughout the Midwest, as they also make up about 90% of the residents of the midwest. The immigrants communities are much smaller in the midwest than on the coasts. Large enough that people have easy access to diverse food, but not large enough that the immigrants have formed their own isolated ghettos like in Coastie cities

>>10774526
>Meaning, it represents "trophy" wines of yore - embarrassingly outdated.
>they don't hype whatever wine people in my city decided to hype this year

What a damn shame that they aren't chasing the exact same baseless trend as you right now

>>10774547
>you'll probably post it on /pol/ with an elaborate conspiracy about how it's actually a pedo ring run by Governor Mark Dayton in cahoots with the late Senator Paul Wellstone. Enjoy your Perkins though.
What does any of this have to do with anything else previously posted here.
What does /pol/ have to do with anything?

it's really weird how in all these headlines I read about once very successful companies going under, they always have a fairly recently appointed female CEO

>>10774453
>saying obviously non-factual things
>get corrected
>say "well thats just like your opinion man"
Do you just not understand the difference between truths and beliefs?

>>10774557
I don't contest the fact that non-chain white people food restaurants exist in flyover land. Every now and then I get a macabre desire to eat mushy canned green beans, formless beige meat topped with campbell's cream of tomato soup, and "salad" consisting of lime jello, whipped cream, and some random canned fruit. But it's rare to have a business meal because the locals are (and I'm not making any value judgments here) ashamed of such food. To them, Cheesecake Factory or Macaroni Grill are the ultimate in upscale chic.

>>10774563
It has nothing to do with my city in particular, wine follows certain international trends from decade to decade. Trophy wines from decades ago still have some merit but to place them in such a prominent place on the menu without reference to anything that took place in the last 30 years is quaint, to say the least. In this day and age for instance when you say "Mondavi" people think of cheap wine. It was once considered quite a good wine. But the name no longer carries the same weight for reasons I am sure are lost on you so maybe this is a waste of typing.

In any case, to see a restaurant treat it like that is something noteworthy.

>>10774601
>>say "well thats just like your opinion man"
I'm not sure what you're referring to there. Is that something you're saying I said? Something you're saying I said you said? I recognize that it is a movie quote but I'm missing the relevance.

>>10774638
>I don't contest the fact that non-chain white people food restaurants exist in flyover land
I mean, you have been pretty adamantly contesting that for this entire thread

> To them, Cheesecake Factory or Macaroni Grill are the ultimate in upscale chic.
Like, you say things like this and I genuinely laugh out loud, there is no possible way you believe this stuff but it is amusing enough to keep e coming back

>>10774638
why are you so concerned about super specific wine trends?

>>10774664
Because I like to drink wine? You know how you're always sperging out about how they took away the McChicken or the Szechuan sauce is back this season? It's like that, but for wine.

>>10774041
The fact that the James Beard Foundation heard of them and they are in a Midwest state is proof that they get Midwestern business because Jane Beard Foundation doesn't waste time on dying restaurants

>>10774097
>because of southerners
No because of Democrats not everyone in the south was a slaveowner mostly it was (((them))) fuck off with that historical revisionist shit get your facts straight

>>10774690
I mean I like wine too, but you just seem really focused and really minor aspects of wine that are only marginally related to the conversation

>>10774137
No only in liberal fantasies where they act oppressed in reality Blacks rights are respected until they chimp out

>>10774738
If a restaurant that purports to be "high end" is totally oblivious to 30 years worth of food trends, that's not noteworthy or related to a conversation about a region's tendencies towards good food or not so good food?

That should put anyone on guard before walking through the door. It might perfectly well be good, but the odds of that go down drastically.

We're not talking about a roadside burger joint here, we're talking about the kind of place where dinner and drinks might cost over $100 per person.

>>10774751
>man is exercising his 1st amendment rights
>better blind him with poison and brutally beat him
Such rights!

>>10774703
That’s pretty cool, reddit

>>10774765
The founders never wanted blacks (or women) to have constitutional rights.

>>10774755
No, wine is at best marginally related to good food. I really don't care if restaurants are up on what is hip amongst the wine fedora crowd, I am there for the food. I assume they will also have good drink, but I couldn't care less if they subscribe to your cringey trends

>>10774790
>No, wine is at best marginally related to good food
Indeed, you are an authentic local. I'm a bit tired tonight, can we perhaps catch up in the morning?

>>10774755
>we're talking about the kind of place where dinner and drinks might cost over $100 per person.
sorry, I am not going to some meme restaurant. I am looking for good food, not pretentious "fancy" food. No matter what part of the county you are in the best food can be had for under $50 after drinks for all but the top tier of tasting menus. Sure coasties pay way more for decent food than the rest of us, but you can still get really good food there without paying that much

>>10774410
Because it's called Soul food you retard

>>10774803
If you care whether their wine list is "trendy" you are the problem. Just sell us good stuff, don't pay attention to whatever the fedoras say is trendy this year

>>10774814
Thats mainly just a southern thing though. for whatever reason most northern blacks have entirely lost the food culture of the southern culture they were part of only 100 years ago

>>10774808
Sorry I can't keep track of which cities you guys are from, but as with the Bob Evans example if this is a different city please do not take offense. This time, we're talking about Chicago. As some may be aware, there are some most costly options there. If you read up a bit you'll see the discussion was the absence of food options outside the Loop vicinity, other than greasy midwestern pub grub, and "ethnic" joints that frighten the highly phobic flyovers. For instance, in the wealthy northern suburbs. So the example was to highlight the fact that while some may claim there are "nice" white people restaurants outside the Loop, the reality is things rapidly degenerate into provincial barbarism even a half hour's drive out.

>>10774815
>no changes have taken place in the wine business in the last 30 years, everything is just like it was before
Ok, thanks for your opinion cleetus

>>10774839
So what about just normal ass good european/american style restaurants, you are just gonna keep pretending they don't exist?

I don't have any friends to go to Applebee's with

>>10774839
If "nice" means over $100 a plate to you, thats fucking insane

>>10774311
I had never heard of that place opening up here but the reviews for it are mediocre, and it wasn't in a great location, with the location it was in I'm guessing it mostly only attracted people on corporate business

The people you're talking about don't live anywhere near the city and rarely go into it, the city has a wide range of locally owned places covering pretty much all cultures

>>10774881
>normal food
This is flyover for "tater tots, ranch, chicken wings, hamburgers and beer".

Of course they exist. But they're extremely similar to TGI Friday's and places like that, the ones that you seem very intent on disavowing, for some reason. I mean honestly, unless you were to physically inspect the menu, you would barely know the difference.

>>10774887
That's the point. Midwest has a problem. You have to spend $100+ to even hope to get decent food unless you venture into the scary minority places.

>charge 20 dollars for something i can make myself for 12
>NOOOOOOO! IT CANT BE t. boomer

>>10774903
>This is flyover for "tater tots, ranch, chicken wings, hamburgers and beer".
No, no it is not. Though most good and bad restaurants should have some good beer

>>10774887
>>10774910
Also I did not say "a plate", I said "dinner and drinks".

Decent places don't heap everything on a plate and serve it so it's falling on the table, like one might serve an animal.

Multiple plates.

>>10773280
I love chicken wings but these places charge too fucking much. They deserve to die

>>10774765
>Screaming in another person's face intimidatingly while wearing a shirt saying fuck their profession
>Member of a FBI recognized terrorist organization BLM
>just exercising his 1st ammendment rights
Man you BLM apologists are out tonight this was not that long after one of those fucks went around killing cops in Denver for sport so the police weren't taking chances

>>10774910
How many times does it need to be repeated that the good ethnic food in midwestern cities are primarily in white neighborhoods. The black neighborhoods (often known as "the ghetto") have almost no good food, and there are definitely not "scary asian neighborhoods" or whatever

One of the great things about the midwest is how many amazing white people restaurants in the $20-40 plate region there are

>>10774930
>the good ethnic food in midwestern cities are primarily in white neighborhoods
You obviously have never had good ethnic food.
>b-but the blacks! at least I'm not black!
Man, this usually happens when you're feeling really defeated. I'm glad we agree that you're wrong.

>>10774920
Most people don't just go out and try $100 tasting menus on a normal night. Also, how much are you drinking?

>>10774821
It is but I was specifically referring to the comment I quoted about saying they never hear 'let's go out for black food' abs the reason is because nobody calls it black food

>>10774934
A glass or two. Also, "most people" can't afford to live in Winnetka either.

>>10773971
Minorities dont live in fly over states you libtard. You obviously dont get invited out for food and are self projecting.

>20 dollars for a beer and nuggies

no shit no one is buying them, i can buy an entire fucking chicken and a 6 pack for 14 bucks. why the fuck would i eat at your shit restaurant?

>>10774933
Dudue, thats just not how midwestern cities are set up. usally there is a super shitty black neighborhood, with no worhtwhile food. A kinda bad but approachable mexican neighborhood with good mexican food, and asian populations scattered through the white neighborhoods

You obviously do not understand the geographic demographics of this place you are discussing, and for some reason refuse to even address this fact when it is pointed out to you

>>10774942
BW3s used to do $0.25 tuesdays, now they want over a dollar a wing and $5 per beer, it's crazy.

>>10774940
That's the problem - I do get invited out for food. I've learned the best response is to politely decline. If they need an alibi, make one up. Doesn't matter if it sounds ridiculous. If they question it further just insist. They will be too "nice" to inquire further. To dine well in your "neck of the woods" (do I sound authentically folksy yet? also nigger nigger nigger, MAGA!) one must dine alone.

>>10774071
you are not from the states, right?

>>10774948
Your'e wrong, and the way you're talking you sound like you've spent your entire life in one suburb of one midwestern town (I say town because it cannot possibly even be a city).

>>10774938
>Also, "most people" can't afford to live in Winnetka either.
What does that have to do with anything?

If you are basin your experiences on a single rich old white dude that is eating out at fine dining tasting menu restaurants every night, its really not a worthwhile addition to this discussion

Remember, the other pillar we are comparing to is good ethnic restaurants, so pretty fucking obviously we are comparing American/European style restaurants of that tier, not the guy selling a $100 nine course tasting menu, thats an entirely different thing, and its disingenuous to compare this

>>10774959
I have literally never set foot in America and I am trolling and also insane. Basically the only thing I can think of is how jealous I am of America and Americans. Also, Allahu Akbar, kill whitey, Cuba Si Yanqui No.

>>10774961
I fucking live in on of these highly urban midwestern city centers, I know what I am talking about. The black neighborhoods are right across the river from me, there is no Asian neighborhood, many of the asian restaurants are near universities, but they are largely scattered through all of the white and mexican neighborhoods

>>10774965
But I already told you there are good ethnic restaurants in Chicago. For instance (this is where you get really confused because you think the Asians are spaced out perfectly evenly, like mechanically planted crops), the Argyle area in (if I recall correctly) Irving Park. Or the Pilsen neighborhood which, if you go there, don't tell your colleagues at work. They'll just assume you went there to buy narcotics instead of eating good Mexican food.

For some reason though these are too terrifying (also they do not exist and I am trolling and insane, all minorities in the midwest are perfectly blended with the white neighborhoods).

>>10774961
The only one that doesn't follow that pattern is Chicago and even then most of the suburbs do.

>>10774983
Right. So like I said, you've spent your entire life in whatever. Duluth/Superior or something. Maybe Fargo/Moorehead. Whatever. Irrelevant.

>>10774987
>But I already told you there are good ethnic restaurants in Chicago
But why are you holding ethnic restaurants to such a lower bar. Whay are you ignoring all of the white restaurnats at that price tier and only focusing at the absolute high end of fine dining? Stuff that most people don't even experience

>>10773862
>knocking up a waitress
You brought that on yourself, you probably had plenty of redflags that you just blatantly ignored because muh feels.

>>10774990
We've already gone over multiple examples that contradict your point of view and each case you always go "oh but I didn't mean THAT. Also didn't mean THAT."

At what point do you just admit this bizarro version of the midwest only exists in your head?

>>10774997
I live in a fucking hipster neighborhood in Minneapolis. Have also lived in Chicago and Madison

>>10774998
>But why are you holding ethnic restaurants to such a lower bar
But isn't that the opposite of what I'm doing? We were talking about good restaurants in the midwest, yes? And I explained to you that there exist none that are owned by whites, other than a few very high end examples in the Loop. To pre-empt any silliness, I mentioned the phenomenon of supposedly-nice white people restaurants outside the Loop, which for reasons already given, do not quality as "nice", the loud protestings of Cleetus the oenophobe notwithstanding.

>>10774997
Lol yeah, Duluth and Fargo renowned for their large black ghettos

>>10773971
Minorities in flyover country

>>10773594
>not squatting on the table like a champ

>>10775006
Ok? So I guess those 100% immigrant Cedar/Riverside towers don't count count because they're not the immigrants you personally approve of?

>>10775006
>that 38 year old boomer who thinks he’s a hipster

>>10775019
There are somali areas as part of the broader ghetto, but the asian and arab communities, the ones providing the food we are talking about are not confined to any neighborhoods.

>>10774125
Once again you proved yourself a retard with no concept of geography because the South is not what people are referring to when they say flyover

>>10775019
How else to explain this. Midwest cities do not have distinct Chinese/korean/thai/vietnamese/Arab neighborhoods. Mostly just black/mexican/white with the white people generally being decently comfortable with the mexican neighborhoods and not at all comfortable with the black ones with a few small exceptions

>>10775038
So how many Hmongs are living in your building in what. North loop? Uptown? Lowry Hill?

>>10773280
alternate title:
"The Boomer generation is dying off and they're taking their terrible restaurants with them."

>>10773280
killing chains is lit

>>10775060
Fuck you, retard. You know nothing.

>>10775048
There are two distinct Chinatowns in Chicago alone. The SEA community in Minneapolis is roughly clustered in either the Frogtown or Phalen neighborhoods.

Ask your parents if they'll take you on a trip outside Whitefish Bay some time, you might find reality a bit different than you imagined.

>>10775051
Hmong people are the most common Asian people throughout Minnesota and Wisconsin, present in many neighborhoods and small towns in the region

>>10775067
Yeah, Chicago is fucking huge and definitely has Asain neighborhoods, but that makes it atypical for a midwestern city

>>10775072
Thank you for that answer you copy/pasted off quora.

Now, can you answer the question that you're actually replying to?

How many?

>>10775067
there are just as many if not more whites living in those areas, the only places whites avoid are powderhorn/phillips and north minneapolis, whites outnumber everyone everywhere else

>>10775080
I only know a small handful of people in my building hardly a useful sample size, but I would say a good 10% of the people I work with are Hmong, and none of them live in a "Hmong neighborhood"

>>10775079
Ok, so I've so far given you four examples of immigrants being clustered in their own areas, in two different cities, you've managed to do nothing but deflect and make random nonsensical false statements.

I'm going to go eat dinner now, maybe in the meantime you can think about how wrong you are, about so many things.

>>10775087
No one has ever suggested Chicago does not have immigrant populations large enough for neighborhoods

>>10773280
>cooking at home

I know it's like a year old article but holy shit is that totally incorrect.

>>10775065
i'm sure you're just a warehouse of knowledge

>>10775051
Tons of slopes, wops, chinks, kikes and amerimutts.

Maybe it's just cause their food sucks?

>>10774441
I'm American

>>10774014
When blaqs try to make up racist insults for whites they always end up blathering about mayonnaise and ranch dressing for some reason

>>10775636
which is funny because they eat way more of both of those than whites do, and blacks hate things like pickles and mustard

>>10773280
>buisness concept is out of touch and failing
>blame the customers
Are these people serious?

>>10773862
Did you save the daughter anon? Or is she passed around at these sex parties

>>10775636
>omg I look stupid now
>b-but the blacks!
Every time

>>10773634
Yeah wing joints have always pissed me off. I remember when this whole thing was just starting in my area. Little shithole in an old bodega-like store that did delivery only. Since I lived down the street I could go to the back and tell the cook what I wanted. Maybe he just wanted to get along with the neighbors because of all the late night traffic from his drivers shitboxes he'd cook up enough wings for 3 people and charge me 5 bucks. The place was called Wing-It. Now it's Wings Express and all over New England. 5 Wings are 10 dollars.

>>10773280
I haven't even considered the possibility of eating at a shitty chain restaurant like that in years. I think the last one I went to was Red Robin back in November and it was utter shit.

Obviously I'd rather eat at a local restaurant than support their prepackaged bagged soups. Fuck those shitty places. I can fry a frozen chicken strip at home. Fuck yourself. Not my fault baby boomers are literally retards who grew up on a farm.

>>10776481
Man wings used to be top tier bar food for the price, now I just spend the money to get a burger and don't bother anymore. Sadly BWs is one of the better priced wing places I've been to in a long time.

>>10773280
if applebees had anything approaching good food, they wouldn't be in such a mess

>>10773634
But did you factor in the cost of your time?

>>10775844
t. never met or been near blacks 'cause /pol/ told me they's so scarwwy

>>10773854
Recent article about worst tippers. Say 'millennials' and don't break it down by race or income. Really makes me think

>>10778057
>t. I have an uncle tom oreo neighbor and he's a good guy

>>10774735
Many southern states had white family slave ownership over 40%, idiot. Stop your revisionist history bullshit to pretend whites "dindu nuffin'."

>>10778057
Blacks definitely like mayo as much as white people. Maybe less overall, but some of the worst offenders of slathering massive amoubts of mayo on I saw were ghetto as hell black dudes. I assume it's be a similar phenomenon with trailer trash.

>>10778093
Slavery in the US became legal because a black man with 4 white indentured servants fought in the supreme court arguing thag he didn't have to release his black indentured servant, John Casor (who had ran away to a white neighbor for protection).
If you're so interested in this secular original sin for Americans.

>>10773862
Just make sure your kid never treads the same path

>>10773280
>Places that serve overpriced food are dying out in a generation where labor is incredibly devalued and even people with college degrees in relevant fields get paid barely enough to pay rent and utilities, God help them if they have student loans to pay off too.

Gee whilikers what a fucking surprise.

>>10773280
>go to Buffalo Wild Wings last week
>filled with early 20 year olds

Lol okay

>>10778275
literally and unironically this. these articles are just propaganda to get more people to visit their "dying" restaurant. its obvious if you've ever been to one, theyre full of younger people. these articles are literally appealing to old people's sense of "i hate young people" to get them to visit their restaurants.

>>10778106
Remoulade sauce is a black think and is just flavored mayo at it's bare level blacks love that shit

>>10778117
Unlike a /pol/tard alt-right sturmdrumpfer I source it:
2 sates > 40% slave ownership
3 states >30%
7 states >25%
2 states in the teens
And one wierdo northern state with 3%, lol

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html?fref=gc

Consider yourself btfo, fag.

>>10773862
red flags. see them

>>10773280
Mid-20s millennial here.

I eat BDubs almost every Tuesday after work. Buffalo wings are one of my favorite foods. I see people my age there all the time and this is late at night near closing time.

>>10773875
Same.

The bartender who gets my food knows me by name and my order by heart because I'm there so often.

I really should've enrolled in the rewards program since I go so frequently.

As for the others, millennials don't go because they are horribly made Americana food. Ruby Tuesday is the least offensive, but Fridays and especially Applebees are disgusting.

why wouldn't you order pick up? No wait and no tip.

>>10774356
I can't even tell if this article is ironic or not, but even if it is it's pissing me off. Whites weren't the only people do any of the shit mentioned in that article, it's just that they had the means to do so in the largest and most efficient manner. When you think of slavery, your first thought is likely of how the """horrible evil American white male""" enslaved the dindu nuffin black man to work on their plantations. But let's roll that back a bit - slaves came from Africa. White people, while they did have colonies there, weren't going into the heart of Africa just to capture blacks to use as slaves They bought the slaves off of OTHER niggers who enslaved them first.

>>10773280
>be restaurant
>cheap food, cheap quality high prices
>shit'scash.sauce
>generation of people aren't falling for it
>they expect good food, fair prices
>shouldn't be expected to make an effort
>join others in damning an entire generation
>call them lazy, indecisive, entitled
>net worth still declining
>make them the target of all failings
>at least I don't have to cater to their needs

>>10774356
>goldstein

>>10774041
3rd world brownie rages over having to live in USA because his homeland is a 3rd world shithole. Move home and make your country a better place instead of imposing yourself on us. Vaya con dios diarrhea boy

The cooking equipment at Applebee's is as outdated as their food.
I know someone who helped open one back in the early 90s, the restaurant he worked had old-ass stoves and fryers that predated the restaurant by at least 10 years.

>>10779675

>>10779675
>>10780185
Nothing wrong with Mexicans (this country needs more of them), but terrible guess

Stay in school, kids

>>10780163
>outdated as the food
What does this even mean? Why are you so concerned about super specific "foodie" trends?

If you do not think Applebees is the ultimate in upscale chic, you are obviously trolling and/or insane.

>>10780241
I'm sorry the image macro that I copied off /ck/ wasn't finely adjusted to where ever you are from lol

>>10780270
You mean the US?

>>10779476
>not tipping for takeout orders
10% on takeout, it's been like this for at least the last 15 years

You're eating spit

>>10778077
>implying the blacks talk like that
They say "house negro" when you're not around. Also I read Sowell once and have an Asian women porno folder, so I am totally not racist.

>>10780280
Why tip someone who didnt do anything? A waitress doesnt even bring it to you. Thats like tipping a cashier who gets a regular wage.

Millenials and gen z losers are proof that white people are defective and deserve to go extinct.

>>10774928
>>Member of a FBI recognized terrorist organization BLM

>>10781924

"Black Lives Matter co-founder labels white people ‘defects’"

> A co-founder of Black Lives Matter Toronto argued that white people are “recessive genetic defects” and purportedly mused about how the race could be “wiped out,” according to a post on what appears to be her Facebook page.

>>10781924

She also faced controversy in the news for a tweet posted a year ago stating: “Plz Allah give me strength to not cuss/kill these men and white folks out here today.”

While these remarks alarmed many Canadians, they pale in comparison to a statement numerous sources forwarded to the Sun that Khogali appears to have posted on Facebook in late 2015.

“Whiteness is not humxness,” the statement begins. “infact, white skin is sub-humxn.” The post goes on to present a genetics-based argument centred on melanin and enzyme.

“White ppl are recessive genetic defects. this is factual,” the post reads towards the end. “white ppl need white supremacy as a mechanism to protect their survival as a people because all they can do is produce themselves. black ppl simply through their dominant genes can literally wipe out the white race if we had the power to.”

>>10781970
>black ppl simply through their dominant genes can literally wipe out the white race if we had the power to.”

Black Lives Matter: "White skin is sub-humxn.”

From there, Khogali, who purposefully misspells “human” in order to eliminate “man” from the word, made her case against the Caucasian race by arguing that more melanin is better. “Melanin enables black skin to capture light and hold it in its memory mode which reveals that blackness converts light into knowledge,” she wrote.

>>10773854
MUH fear

>>10773607
Damn they really force it into everything.
>TIWWCHNT

The thing about these types of restaurants is that they're only truly enjoyable if you just go all in and eat like 6,000 calories in a sitting. I'm not going to Applebee's to "share an appetizer and a salad" I want to get two appetizers for myself and an entree and the fucking ice cream cookie brownie thing for dessert.

>>10781962

Black Lives Matter Toronto Co-Founder Needs To Resign

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/james-di-fiore/black-lives-matter-toronto-yusra-khogali_b_14635896.html

Now, normally my white skin would admittedly preclude me from even suggesting that a black activist should hang up the megaphone, but Khogali has made a habit of directing violent, hateful language towards people with white skin, so much so that I feel comfortable calling her out. She once mused that just by having white skin, white people are sub-human. She tried to qualify that statement by saying white people did not have a high amount of melanin, which prevents them from absorbing light, and with it a sense of moral clarity.

Now, maybe if this was her only controversial statement all could be forgiven, but this is a pattern of hate that can't be ignored any longer. In April 2016 Khogali tweeted "Plz Allah give me strength to not cuss/kill these men and white folks out here today. Plz Plz Plz."

>>10774073
For me, it's indulging obvious trolls

>>10773862
Pics of the whore?

>>10781970

There is a strange trend that some activists use to provide themselves cover for engaging in hate speech. They say that because the system they live under has racial problems, they should be absolved from being held accountable when they make violent, absurd statements, especially against whites.


To saddle Trudeau with a label as hyperbolic as "white supremacist terrorist" is to engage in a kind of activism that belittles your own cause.

Recently, Khogali labelled Justin Trudeau a "white supremacist terrorist" for not changing our refugee policy as a response to Donald Trump's executive order that would temporarily halt the flow of refugees and immigrants from seven predominantly Muslim countries. Trump's decision is controversial even among Republicans, but to saddle Trudeau with a label as hyperbolic as "white supremacist terrorist" is to engage in a kind of activism that belittles your own cause.

I get it, being controversial gets people talking and spotlights the issues you are trying to champion, but that strategy only works if you do not place yourself in the centre of the controversy. You are not absolved from being held accountable for hate speech just because you hate Donald Trump and want Trudeau to take action on the refugee file.

>>10773280
anyone who eats at casual chain restaurants is retarded
you can almost always find a local restaurant in your area that serves better food if you do a bit of googling

>>10781970
>She also faced controversy in the news for a tweet posted a year ago stating: “Plz Allah give me strength to not cuss/kill these men and white folks out here today.”

And to be honest, I really don't care if this comes off as "whitesplaining." That's a word designed to get white people to shut up about important issues. It's part of the lexicon among some activists that doesn't serve the greater good, which is supposed to be justice and equality for everyone.

But if you continuously isolate and vilify white folks -- without crafting your language in a way that separates actual racists from white allies -- how can you ever expect to grow the movement to a size where the system would have no choice but to change for the better? Moreover, how do you reconcile using divisive, prejudicial language to describe an entire race of people when part of your fight is to stop white people from doing the exact same thing?

>>10782025
Because the NWO wants to start a race war to kill off most of the population

>>10781970

Wait...

I thought blacks can't be racist???? Only asians, latinos, and whites can be racist. But not blacks.

>>10781970

wow. wtf?

>>10778197
Fucking lol. I work at a rehab and that shit is inevitable. His daughter is fucked. She'll be in rehab after fucking a drug dealer "boyfriend" for a while. Her voice will be scratchy from the meth use. And she'll have a kid by age 20 and perpetuate the cycle

>>10775079
Oklahoma city has a similar problem

>>10782237
>Oklahoma city has a similar problem

We're not the ones fucking up the streets and looting the stores in our own neighborhoods.

Please don't compare us to the lowlife, welfare, racist & hateful chicago niggers. That's an unbearable insult.

>>10781909
they bring it out from the kitchen same as dine-in. they also box everything up which is more work than just carrying a plate. so by your argument they should be tipped more, not less or nothing at all

I’ll keep tipping 10% and you can keep eating spit

>>10780264
coastie liberal arts baristas are scared of BLM protests burning down their houses if they eat normal food like McDonalds or high end wealthy luxury fine dining like TGI Fridays

so they only eat overpowering smelly “diversity food” that gives you diarrhea from all the garlic and onions and ginger and stuff. this is how they apologize for the hate crime of being white

also they can’t afford to eat at exclusive luxury fine dining restaurants like Olive Garden because they went to college instead of working with their hands like a real man

>>10780264
I'm talking about how stale their food is from sitting out too long.

>>10782574
Every meal I've had at those places has been served hot and tasty, better than the most expensive Stouffer's Urban Bistro stuff I get to celebrate payday

I think you're just jealous because you can't afford upscale restaurants

>>10773862
>my kid's mom
You mean your wife orrrrrrrrrrrr

>>10780241
>Nothing wrong with Mexicans (this country needs more of them)
Wrong, they're rapists and murderers driving down the job opportunities and wages for young people

>>10783306
Maybe you should have gone to class instead of taking marijuana behind the gas station, hmm?

>>10783315
Not an argument cuck

>>10774125
Bama blacks are best blacks. Reminds me, there's a hot tamale joint in town I need to hit up. Mmmm.

>>10774137
Not only do you see rifles slung over the shoulders of rural southern and midwestern blacks, I moved to Vegas five years ago. I have lost count of the number of blacks OCing pistols. Nobody bats an eye. It's legal here.

>>10783322
No amount of arguing is going to take back your wasted youth.

I pay taxes to send people like you to school but you'd rather demand daddy trump drive the economy into the ground to protect your no-value-added job doing whatever it is you people do. Nothing, I suppose, except when a supervisor walks into view at which point you pretend to be busy.

>>10783343
It's almost like the jobs we went to school for have been outsourced to H1B visa's to maximise profit by creating absurd job requirements by your ilk and educated people are above working retail

>>10774217

No I did not (and heres why thats ok)

>>10773845

millenials have severe autism and under socialization. they need emojis and clear emotional signaling to understand basic stories

>>10783362
>I'm too good for this job, I want THAT job
Ok, good luck with that attitude.

As to the picture, those kinds of postings are made to comply with red tape that requires the position to be posted somewhere public for "transparency" reasons. They'll add some subtle fuck you in the requirements that nobody will notice because nobody inside the company is ever going to look. And if the do you can say it was a typo.

You can assume they already had someone for the job and are just ticking a box so that HR/legal/whoever doesn't have a cow and start micromanaging every single hire going forward. This practice is mainstream at every level from coffee boy to senior management positions.

Put yourself in their shoes. Why would you hire some random internet autist if you have a reference for someone, or usually several candidates, with a proven track record and there are people who can vouch for their ability to work in a professional environment without creeping out the female employees?

Also food and cooking.

>>10783413
>Why would you hire some random internet autist if you have a reference for someone, or usually several candidates, with a proven track record and there are people who can vouch for their ability to work in a professional environment without creeping out the female employees?
It's fucking IT, your choices are internet autists or pajeets who definitely will creep on the female employees you dumb boomer

>>10783423
Not true at all. We made that mistake where I work, got a couple of real nutcases when the company was in startup, web applicants of course. One of them started talking about furries in front of a client, it was bad. He wasn't allowed in front of clients after that.

Took a lot of jumping through hoops to set them up for failure but after a few years we were rid of them both.

Everything comes through referrals now. Fortunately our profile is a bit higher now than it was in those dark days.

>>10783441
>Hire ditzy HR who can't sniff out a spaghetti dropping autist
Sounds like you're to blame their chum

>>10783457
It's called the real world. You might be surprised at the number of mistakes that can happen at an otherwise successful company. The veneer of perfectionism is there to keep out the spergs who can't, or won't, fake their way through anything. Faking is an important life skill. I am basically a fraud, but I act like I belong, and, therefore, I do.

>>10774073
this person deserves an award for how right they were

>>10774058
>>10774940
>>10775017

>minorities in flyover states? lelelel
They are there, dumbasses. It's just that they're still minorities there. You know, not the same culture as the general populace? A... minority?
?

>>10773280
I worked at an Applebee's for one month last year and it was fucking awful. Almost everything was microwaved. Pasta? Microwaved. Mashed potatoes? Microwaved in the fucking plastic portioning bag. I was literally trained to microwave it in the bag and then slap it on the plate rather than just microwave it on the plate.
Applebee's also has no fucking clue what they are. These fucks are trying to compete with Chipotle and Subway when this shit cost min $10 a plate plus $1.50 a drink before tipping.

>>10783315
He's right though...

>>10774207
You're fucking insane.

>>10774453
>where the locals are loth to tread.


Or are the ones fucking sustaining these businesses?

Goddamn what the fuck

NO PLEASE NO BWW

THEIR wings ARE ACTUALLY GOOD

>>10783639
Agreed.

They are overpriced to hell though if you don't go on Tuesday or Thursday.

Speaking of which, it's Tuesday. Time to get 10 wings for 6 bucks after work....

>>10773280
The target audience doesn’t exist anymore. There is no abundance of young families looking for food and a night out that have disposable enough income to give those places regular buisness. With the the price of eating at those places everyone would rather cook their own nice meal, just get fast food and avoid tipping 15% for dry overpriced ribs, or go somewhere nice enough you’re not risking sitting next to some big family’s kids table or a bunch or drunk coworkers celebrating someone’s birthday.

>>10774207
You're a fucking retard. I live in Cleveland and the food scene here is extremely diverse and very well represented.

Besides an Asian town market, here are no "minority neighborhoods" with enclaves of food culture. The only proper minority neighborhoods are the black ghettos on the East Side and nobody eats there because the food sucks and they don't want to get robbed.

>>10783855
>cleveland
>the food scene here is extremely diverse and very well represented
This is what flyovers actually believe. Enjoy your moo goo gai pan and butter chicken

>>10783540
It's important to remember the flyover mindset:
>oh, they're not white? they must be black
If they see a viet for instance or an indian or any other person from some other group that doesn't fit neatly into this dichotomy their mind breaks and they start babbling about World War 2 or the Persian Gulf War, depending on which boogyman Fox News told them to fear the previous night.

There's a reason the few good restaurants in flyover states are hidden in obscure strip malls behind a laundromat or whatever, they have to keep a low profile in order to avoid getting murdered.

>>10783871
I've had Midwest-style BBQ, Polish, German, Ukrainian, Russian, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Lebanese, Jordanian, and Saudi food all within about 10 miles of each other.

But sure, keep spouting bullshit in your socialist hellholes, Coastie.

>>10774311
>THE ONLY REASON A POC COULD FAIL IS RAAACCCCIISSSSM
>EVEN THO MOST RESTAURANTS FAIL REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS IT
jesus tapdancing christ i am beyond tired of nonwhites and guilty libs

>>10774961
the other dude is 100% right
t. Indianapolis

>>10783959
yeah surely a decorated world renowned chef is the problem, not the backwoods toothless hillbillies who would rather eat Applebees

James Beard award is code for white genocide

>>10783886
How many flyovers were murdered by that nice Hmong man in the woods?

>>10783871
I'd be willing to bet you'd think the same thing about Houston, and you be identically flat out wrong.

millenials are turning out to be worse than boomers though
the pendulum swung back way too hard

gen Z, it's in your hands now

>>10773845
i think of martha stewart, it's her catch phrase

>>10773280
people still go out to casual dining, but paying $12-20 an entree isn't "casual". if you're going to be spending that much money why not go to a good restaurant?

>>10774569
this happens in a lot of the hobby/special interest boards. can't decide if it's people trying to "brag" that they've been redpilled and they go on the big boy boards (similar to when someone says "you think xyz is bad this one time in /b/.....") especially considering they seem to reference things that have made it to MSM or they're trying to virtue signal that they're above the usual 4chan hijinx

or of course, they're just trying to stir the pot, but don't realise that actually making the comment will start a discussion rather than saying "if i were to make this comment..."

>>10784192
>Getting rid of tipping
>Forcing the closure of restaurants that should have closed down without a welfare system in place

It sucks for servers, but its better for society. We don't need mediocre restaurants, just cook at home or get fast food

>>10773829
>sit down at overpriced sushi bars instead of all boomer can eat for $7 or applebees $12 meals
>waaaah why cant I pay my mortgage

>>10779610
White people were doing that, especially in the 1800s after importation of slaves was made illegal. Even long before none of the Africans or Arabs could ever realistically meet demand and eventually relations broke down between Europeans and African kingdoms like the Congo because whites were capturing random people to use as slaves while the Africans were selling conquered enemies taken as prisoners.

>>10784167
Think about Houston? No, I can't say I've done that much before, other than thinking "I hope I don't have to go to Houston"

Imagine being such a horrible city that people would literally prefer to go to Cleveland

>>10785174
/ck/ - food and cooking and slavery

>>10775985
Journalism has dropped the facade and are more openly establishment shills so they're not even trying to hide their disdain for people who don't support whatever industry they write about

>>10773280
I'm fucking dying at the implication that people have a responsibility to keep up the specific consuming habits of their parents for the sake of businesses. As if eating at Applebee's a lot creates an inherited social contract.

>>10773280
How about these restaraunts do literally anything at all, besides nothing? Do they really think people leave the house to have their fucking basic bitch chicken tender or whatever? At least Chile's has added some new chicken and waffles to the menu and other attempts.

>>10775042
it all looks the same from 35000 feet

>>10774311
Even niggerholes defy your stereotype. The best seafood I've ever had was in Chicago and the best Mexican and Vietnamese I've had was in Peoria.

>>10773280
>we shouldn't have to change in response to a different consumer base, it's their job to keep us in business!
Wow, and they call millennials entitled.

>>10778038
>waiting to be seated at a restaurant, waiting for the talkative wait staff to take your order, waiting for the talkative wait staff to relay your order, waiting for the cooks to microwave your order, waiting for the still talkative wait staff to bring your order, and once again waiting for the ever talkative wait staff to bring the check
or
>going to a super market and buying a whole rotisserie chicken for less than the cost of the microwaved "wings"

Which takes less time?

>>10773607
t. Austro-Hungarian nationalist 1914

>>10773845
Have you never been at a checkout line and looked at the gossip magazines sitting on top of the candy bars and soda?
>>10773862
Yeah, you gotta find that ONE good 'casual restaurant'. For me it's O'Charley's. Still, those places are kinda dog shit compared to the local, small time businesses and local, small time restaurants. If they have advertisements on TV, you can go ahead and start breaking down your gambling addiction.

>>10773280
In a world that blames guns for gun violence and drugs for drug abuse, it's strange to hear that the millennials are at fault for this.

>>10773280
Chain restaurants got big for two reasons, first post war commercialization making it hip and successful to eat out rather than cook your own food it was a sign of affluence, second the rise of the international highways making reliable and predictable food important.
However, in the decades since then, the country has shrunk - people fly instead of drive cross country - and now cooking your own food is a sign of affluence and sophistication, a complete 180 from the boomer era. Cross that with hipsters, dietary movements, and the E-Culture that makes waiting 20 minutes for mediocre food an interminable wait like going to the DMV, and your seeing huge shrinkage in the industry that has a lot of companies and restaurants scrambling to find new footing.

>>10773280
In Japan they call them 'family restaurants' and I've been to many different chains. Fucking cheap, tastes good, so I'd be a repeat customer.
Only one I didn't really fancy was Denny's because the food was just okay and the price was ~30-40% more.

>>10774076
>As a boomer I would rather millennials and the rest of humanity die out then succeed.
Checks out, you've been doing your best since you were young

>>10774638
You sound like the most pompous faggot that ever lived. Nothing you say is even remotely true. Womp womp

>>10786035

>>10774356
>Goldstein

>>10774344
fuck off mutt i'll kill you