/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10690188
Avocado toast

>>10690188
deenz

Pasta in general

>>10690188
No, that's sushi

>>10690188
You realize this is why it's called a meme food right.

>>10690207
You take that back before I go full Klebold on you

I've tried pho at numerous places and always found the broth to be almost as bland as water, so I agree.

But even more overrated especially given the price to flavor ratio, it's gotta be steak. Boring af.

>>10690188

you're wrong. it's one of the perfect foods right up there with cheeseburgers, pizza, burritos, and fried chicken with watermelon and potato salad. it's perfect texturally as well.

>fatty broth with soy sauce/hoisin/chili paste
>lime juice
>thai basil
>crunchy bean sprouts
>rare beef
>ginger

I needs it bruhs

It is really anything but average. Lots of sour, spicy, herbal , and acidic flavors. Even if you've had most Asian cuisines it would offer something different to you.

>>10690494
Compared to Thai Tom Yum soups, pho is literally flavorless. What else would you expect from a country colonized for 90% of it's history.

>>10690508

have not had that, I usually go for curry at thai places.

>>10690188
Watch the America Culinary Institute video on pho, the narration treats it as some elixir

>>10690493
Wow are you me?

>>10690503
Wrong

>>10690188
because you either have awful taste or go to some random ass viet restaurant with two stars on yelp (but you wouldn't know that because you don't check yelp like someone that likes to waste money on bad cooking)

>>10690523
Probably. I'm certainly not myself at this point.

>>10690188
you gonna rustle some fedoras, m8

>>10690188
If you want salt bombs filled with umami because your taste buds are destroyed, just get ramen.

>>10690188
poor man's ramen

>>10690482
t. can't afford good sushi

>>10690188
>eats a shitty frozen pizza
>judges all pizza as shitty
see how retarded you sound?

>>10690207
This.
Pho's pretty shit though.

pho is decent. Basically, mainstream people were not aware of pho at all maybe 10 years ago. Then certain hipsters discovered that it was good and made a big effort to tell everyone about this super secret asian soup that they HAVE to try! Yes, they made it sound better than it is to get everyone to try it. But I'm still glad, because now it's commonly available. Better than a lot of other shit you could eat.

>>10690188
Don't care for pho either. The anise flavor turns me off. Maybe I'm comparing it too much to ramen. But at the same time, why would i get pho when I could get ramen?

>>10690188
i've never had pho but i've seen it made on tv. how can you fuck it up if you do it right? what's a bowl like that generally cost?

>>10691124
About $2 in Vietnam. Meat in Vietnam is expensive considering how poor they are.
The Pho broth is the key, and restaurants/street vendors will always get the flavours cooking together the night before.
Having said that, I'll take a good ramen restaurant in Japan over a good pho restaurant in Vietnam any day.

>>10690779
>>10691102
>>10691057
>ramen
This is a pho thread. Pho and ramen are very different things. There is really no reason to compare them. So please, stop being candyasses.

>>10691179
They are the poor-mans broth based go-to in each culture so they have more in common than you'd think.

>>10690188
Had pho made from scratch from my Vietnamese friend's grandma.

It was fucking delicious. She was happy to have a non-Vietnamese person interested in the cooking process.

I've had pho made by a gook friend's mom and it was one of the best things I've ever had
I've tried it from three different restaurants and it's been garbage every time, the broth is like water and it's full of so much shit that you can't even enjoy the noodles without getting a mouthful of sticks and leaves
Might be one of those things actually depends on who's making it

>>10691223
>>10691225
did you spend the night?

>>10691225
Sounds like you had a similar experience to me. I didn't know that there were so many different spices that went into the broth, and although I really like typical Vietnamese restaurant pho in general, it couldn't be compared to something so meticulously made with love.

His family was like, bruh u look like a Holocausto, eat more, the entire time. I think I gained 10 pounds in a single night.

>>10691179
I wish I could find some place that does ramen with pho meat. I like ramen broth better but I find the meat usually too heavy.

>>10691228
YES
i was actually hanging out with the bro over the weekend, and it was a cool experience. Four different types of fish (I think there was croaker and red snapper), a southern-style crawfish boil, crispy pork, rice, pho...not to mention the ginseng vodka that made everyone's faces get completely beet red.

It was a great fucking experience. Reminded me of my home country.

>>10691198
>in the mood for pho
>get ramen because hey it's almost the same thing!
is like
>in the mood for a burger
>get tendies instead because same thing right!
you people are fucking retarded.

>>10691241
Most asian grocery stores (and all H marts, if ur on the east coast) carry 'shabu shabu meat' which is essentially super thin cut meat that's for shabu shabu. You can do the same by adding the meat to your ramen right before serving.

>>10690188
>Is Pho the single most overrated dish in existence?

Nah japanese ramen is, every fucking time I go to japan or come back people rant and rave especially weebs about how good it is and healthy too!

>Hey did you try ramen in japan, you know one of the stable dishes there
>eh once or twice, I like yakitori, korean bbq, some various rice dishes, and international food mostly
>Oh why not ramen it's soo good!
>Most of it is pretty meh usually mostly noodles and very thin meats, rarely ever spicy even though they tout a dish as spicy, a table spoon of chili sauce is not "hot"
>Oh but it's so healthy I got some a few weeks ago, filling to
>Oh you were in japan too?
>no I went to this ramen shop across the city, it was amazing
>explain it's no where close to the same shit as in japan as portion sizes are vastly different, vegetables are used much more sparingly, and there is a higher use of meat in the states; also most things in it are carbs, oil, or 0 calorie foods.
>Oh well that seems odd, I might get sushi when I (never) go! I love california sushi rolls!

>>10690188
Let me clue you in: it's not about how pho tastes. Maybe white hipsters fawn over it, but pho is nothing special. It's noodle soup with other shit. Pho is important because it's about making it and eating it with the family. It's more about family bonding than a great food

t. dating a SE asian girl whose grandma makes us pho

>>10691248
good shit. was the broth left overnight?
w-what's your home country?

>>10690188
how is pho more overrated than sushi

>>10691057
>t. can't afford good sushi

Sushi is literally cheap fucking food for people in a hurry. It's never meant to be a fine meal or dish, "cultured weebs" and advertising turned it into such for $$

>>10691267
you're missing at least one $

>>10691265
I think the broth was one of those 'perpetual stew' style mixes (the spice bag is used over an over again until they add new spices after it starte getting week, and the broth is kept chilled or frozen if need be).

My friend refused to play translator but I understood 'better with age'.

Living in burgerland now, but orignally from kimchiland

>>10691271
>>10691267

This. Sushi was essentially the equivalent of deli's in Japan, and yeah, there's a great deal of pride in the artistry and stuff, but that goes for pretty much any food with history.

For the same reason someone could justify paying $70+ for a burger, or talk about the proper dough technique that makes an equally expensive pizza great, people claim the same shit about how a true sushi master must spend years before they even learn how to handle the fish.

Yeah, there's a noticeable difference in quality but you honestly can have decent sushi without having to pay an insane amount of money, for the same reason you can have a decent burger or pizza without walletrape.

>>10691314
>>10690493
steakfags used to be notorious for overpricing, too. you can get a great aged steak for 15ish bucks if you know where to go.

>>10691335
>know this hole in the wall place
>looks like shit
>owners there every day though
>get cheap 18-20 dollar steak meal, drink+sides+salad+healthy sized steak
>fucking amazing
>friends won't go there because "looks shitty from the outside"

>>10691345
best steak i ever had was in frostburg, md while visiting family. i don't even know the name of the place. neither do most of the students. i've told people this and said so at the time, but they always shrug it off like i must be mistaken.

>>10691335
hnggggggggg
beef in korea is so fucking expensive. i know there's a handful of costcos there that make it a little cheaper, but the average price is still astronomical.

i went to a bar/grill and had a 15 dollar steak. juicy, tender, and served with a nice baked potato by a big tittied waitress. things like that are what makes this nation great.

>>10691345
fuuuuuuck. name of restaurant/location?

>>10691354
how long you been here, m8? you spend a lot of time "back home"?

>>10691357
It was this place near a cattle thing in Phoenix, I can look it up in a few

>>10691358
I TOLD YOU IM NOT TRANSLATING SHIT FOR YOU, CIA

'bout a decade and a half. Got to visit/eat at most parts of the continental US, from the north east to the south to the midwest and west coast. As much as I have enjoyed food in a lot of other euro and asian countries, no nation compares in the sheer fucking range to the US. I live for the mom and pop restaurants. The only catch is that the average person is eats like shit, unironically defends the frozen food aisle in Walmart and it's a shame. Go to that Mexican place that doesn't even have a menu, or the Soul food joint where there's only like one white guy.

>>10691361
When you said Phoenix, I thought you meant that 44 place and almost shit myself. I ain't payin' 60 bucks for a fucking steak, boi

>>10691394
>soul food joint
jewwithabat.png

>>10691406
hahah. the only jew-related incident that I recall at the place was a big black guy who was mad at the guys he worked for at a temple, and was drunk and saying Hitler was just a guy who stood up for himself.

It was a surreal moment. I just nodded. I'm yellow, so I have no horse in this race.

>>10690207
shut the fuck up cunt deenz are life

>>10690188
Like 5 years ago "getting pho" meant going to the tiny Vietnamese shack of a restaurant and ordering a massive bowl of hot food for like $7. It's tasty and unique enough to be something you can crave. High end pho is moronic, some places near me now try to charge $15 for a bowl of mediocre soup.

Protip- if the restaurant doesn't have plum sauce and chili sauce on the table, then it's not worth your money. It's very easy to make too, I like pho a lot and can't even remember the last time I actually bought it prepared.

>>10690188
List of overrated dishes
>Ramen
>Pho
>Lobster
>Sushi
>Avocados
>Kale
>Quinoa
>Caviar
>Sriracha
>Bacon
I'm not saying they're bad, they are just overrated as fuck.

>>10690515
Highly recommend trying a bowl of tom kha gai when you get a chance. Tom yum if you don't like coconut.

>>10691457
haven't been to a proper thai place in ages. any suggestions to someone who eats everything/has zero dietary restrictions/has no allergies?

>>10691439
>15 dollars for soup
>15 dollars an hour minimum wage
HMMMHMHMMMM

>>10691464
is larb gai too normie?

i used to get pho after drinking for a day or 3. all that fatty broth puts a great end to a bender.

>>10691444
Trips of Truth

>>10691485
i'll try it! though my usual rule of thumb is to order shit I'd have a hard time making myself, yafeel?

>>10691530
it's a table starter. if you want to maintain the persona you've shown in two posts here, i'd suggest you let the table decide and only interject if there's a debate or no one wants an app.

>>10691091
Why does everything gotta be some hipster plot with you people? You realize that life doesn't work like that right? Social media made the transfer of information easier so it's more common to be introduced to new things throughout your day. It's not some secret society of hipsters pushing exotic foods. That's retarded

>>10691594
it isn't a "hipster plot," it's just completely natural hipster behavior . that's like saying that dogs barking is a "dog plot"

>>10691179
>broth, meat, veggies, noodles

Sounds similar to me

>>10691608
so they're also the same as chicken noodle soup?

>>10690188
Chopped cheese. It's a beef and cheese sandwich, do you want a medal or something?

>>10691594
/pol/tards think everything is a conspiracy nowadays

>>10690204
This

>>10691264
>dating a SE asian girl
Gross, why would you want to do that?

>>10691618
I hate this thing, it's just a burger with the meat broken apart

>>10691354
>big tittied
>Asian
that's where ur lies fell apart mate

>>10691248
>red snapper
>crawfish
>Vietnamese
Greater New Orleans Area detected

>>10690207
I'll rape you

>>10691444
i like banh-mi and bao buns right now but they will be next when they become popular. call me a dirty hipster but this is the way things work

>>10691439

that's hoisin not plum sauce you dummy

>>10690188
Kimchi is overrated as fuck

>>10691439
>plum sauce
yum yum I love the plum. Also if the phở joint doesn't serve the phở with like a lettuce salad on the side with a few leaves of spinach, then send it back because it is not real phở.

>>10691782
try reading and not obsessing about tits.
you give titbros a bad public face iibhwyb

>>10691832
i've never had kimchi, but i've done contract work in korean grocery stores and they smell like gasoline farts around lunch time.

>>10690493
>broth as bland as water
You're going to the wrong places, anon...
My pho spot has an old Vietnamese dude that starts his broth 4 am every morning.
Good broth makes all the difference

>>10691832

>>10691856
then learn to type more clearly.

or, your a jealous titles roastie.

>>10691874
>Good broth makes all the difference
>having to say this on a cooking board

>>10691888
try going back

>>10691889
Nobody on this board actually cooks

>>10691823
No, plum sauce. Hoisin is what you add to shitty pho to make it taste like a little more than water.

>>10690188
I made some homemade pho from scratch once. Like, got some big beef bones to make my own stock and everything. There are a lot of interetsing spices that go into it. It's top tier as far as soups go.

>>10691464
Get some kai kua, it's like pad thai but chiller and with floppy noodles.

>>10690686
I've never been to a pho place with a rating below 4.5 :)

>>10691084
No, because I'm going to the Vietnamese owned restaurants for my pho. I'm not buying it from a freezer in a grocery store

>>10691782
I was referring to the US as 'this nation great', how there are places where you can get steaks for relatively cheap and bit tittied waitresses to serve them. Guess you had to connect the dots with Korea having expensive beef prices to get it.

it's okay bro, i can lend you the Hooked on Phonics books

>>10691792
Haha it's Jersey, though the othr vietnamese people did go through louisiana/ and brought a giant cooler full of live crawfish

>>10691832
Having store-bought kimchi in the US is a bad frame of reference, m8. It'd be like some dude from Zimbabwe having tried locals make Italian Carbonara and claiming that 'it's overrated'.

It's definitely a learned flavor, but don't knock it till you've had a tiny Korean granny hand-feed you some kimchi fresh out of the clay pots.

>>10692069
im writing all this down, probably hitting up a thai place in philly sometime next week

>>10691251
Fucktard, if you even remotely think that's what I was implying your autism is somewhere to da moon level autism.

>>10691618
>tfw live near the deli this originated from
>5 dollars for a fucking massive Sammy

Idk where you get your chopped cheese but I think they pretty good

not even going to waste my time reading this thread.
I worked at a gook/american/nightclub on weekends weird ass fucking place for a couple years.
Pho is great when it's done right. But it's not $20 a bowl good. At my place they would roasted the bones, build the broth from scratch and use rare ribeye. It was awesome.
But I've gone to places since then where it's very obviously beef broth paste.
For double the cost of a single bowl at a restaurant you can just make a butt load at home and impress your hipster friends.

>>10690188
like all things, pho fills a specific niche and is perfect for that.

pho is in the top tier for cold, rainy day food, or when i want a soup that's not as heavy as ramen or american soups/stews. if i get a craving for thai basil, pho or thai curries scratch that itch really well.

103 replies, it's not overrated at all, people are just mad they can't make it properly.

>>10692423
>I'm on a diet so I'm having sushi for lunch, tee hee!

>>10692479
Way off, meant to reply to >>10691256

I like pho because I have a hot former coworker who likes pho. Fun to go out with her once a week and flirt for a hour or two.

Best with tripe and tendon.

>>10692479
I find it offensive to call the American style 'sushi'.
You could call it fusion but that word is also a joke.
Nonetheless, looks tasty af anon.

>>10690188
Why do people hate on Pho so much, but suck ramen's dick on this board so much? They are both roughly equivalent in quality and flavor.

i go to a pho place for curry sometimes. the pho is shit, tho.

>>10691223
>>10691225
Post recipe

>>10692630
From what I can remember (and later confirmed) it's cinnamon sticks, cloves, coriander pods, star anise and cardamom that's added to a big ass pot of boiling oxtail w/ charred onions. The one that the granny made definitely had that slick collageny texture from boiling the bones for a long time. Didn't get to write down the exact ratio, though. Have fun experimenting, lad

>>10690494

I'm with you, anon.
So good.

>>10691618
From the same place. I was visiting, in the area, thought I'd try one.

>>10692848
That's basically Pho broth, I already know that. My senpai uses some whole pepper and ginger as well. And on top of the ox tail we also use regular beef bones for the broth.

>>10693308
Why is f . a . m . autocorrected to senpai on /ck/?

>>10690508
You should compared Pho to Thai noodle or Thai boat noodle instead, much more comparable since it's both noodle.

>>10692603
Ramen is saltier, so it probably fits more people's tastes.
I prefer ramen too, if only because I can't eat half the stuff in a pho bowl.

>>10690494

>no fish sauce

that's probably why people think it's bland. go to vietnam and eat it. proper broth.

>>10691267
>YOU
>PAY
>NOW

>>10691251
More like burger vs Salisbury steak

lol like white people know anything about food

if youre not italian, just shut up

>>10691874
>I don't like dish X
>well that HAS to be because you haven't tried it at place Y before

Just accept that some people might not like it.

>>10693516
I am

>>10691817
banh-mi and bao became meme foods like 6 years ago dumbass

>>10693312
>being this new